Aman plays a move that Stockfish can't find

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  • @jspinelli5305
    @jspinelli5305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1960

    So I never had a brilliant move cause the engine just doesn’t understand them. Thanks for boosting my self esteem aman

    • @jackrichards1908
      @jackrichards1908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I've had the engine call obvious moves brilliant and discredit game winning moves that I knew would work kinda sensing what my opponent would most likely do.
      It is a cool tool but not something to live by.

    • @jakerubin2250
      @jakerubin2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The brilliant isn't amazing. One time I captured my opponents only remaining pawn with my king to get into a winning endgame, when all I had was two pawns and a knight versus their knight. The engine said it was brilliant

    • @paki6277
      @paki6277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jackrichards1908 it discredits your winning moves just because there must be a better one or a counter response from your opponent. Its very very rare that you make a move that is better and invincible to the engine.

    • @supermicro9034
      @supermicro9034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @KSG the same position happens either way

    • @WatcherTeacher
      @WatcherTeacher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you've ever promoted a pawn to queen the engine usually calls it Brilliant

  • @Blayd9
    @Blayd9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1271

    I often play moves that stockfish can't find. The fact that I'm then losing a few moves later is neither here nor there...

    • @yelloe_birb
      @yelloe_birb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Same bro - stockfish just doesn’t understand the brilliancy of me gambiting all my pieces

    • @evoshadzzz5992
      @evoshadzzz5992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@yelloe_birb Ikr, They Should Really Improve it, Because In The

    • @tntgriefer5593
      @tntgriefer5593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once I was drawing a game because of repetition and stockfish couldn’t find the move that drew the game

    • @pratyaydey2769
      @pratyaydey2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Utsav Joshi It's not a 'bug'. Engines aren't perfect. Even if your using a normal pc in your home, even there the engines are calculating hundreds of thousands of moves every second. Yes. Even in my not so premium phone I get upto 1000 knodes/sec. (Which means 1 million positions calculated per second). They literally calculate every single legal move in a position. But, because that is very inefficient after the initial calculating they will remove moves that do not achieve anything constructive. So, it's not a bug. It's a feature that backfires sometimes. This can be solved once our AIs get stronger at considering candidate moves in a position instead of calculating every legal moves.

  • @LeventK
    @LeventK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1264

    He was playing brilliancies when Stockfish was still PiPing in its pampers.

    • @DragonBank
      @DragonBank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Bro do you sleep

    • @grantdillon3420
      @grantdillon3420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      What the f*** are you talking about. Stockfish is the biggest looser.

    • @uzking1140
      @uzking1140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@grantdillon3420 Yes,stockfish is cheater

    • @nir9670
      @nir9670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Garrett Long hes everywhere meaning hes on youtube too much

    • @DragonBank
      @DragonBank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Garrett Long Levent posts on every chess video ever. He posted on a video I saw as I went to sleep last night and I wake up to see he commented on a video from an hour before.

  • @weetabixharry
    @weetabixharry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Stockfish doesn't even understand the first rule of chess: if there is a mate in 1, look for better.

  • @highkage9535
    @highkage9535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Engine when someone plays the only legal move: Wow, brilliant!
    Engine when someone plays a move so good it can't even see it: Inaccuracy, take it or leave it.

    • @luminescentgem7254
      @luminescentgem7254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean if it can’t see it

    • @SoDamnMetal
      @SoDamnMetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not even the engine that assigns those ratings for moves, they're just arbitrarily chosen by chess.com

    • @user-jd2kv1mr7m
      @user-jd2kv1mr7m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The engine understands his moves more than himself

  • @alancosta2222
    @alancosta2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Tbh, that was scary, he calculated so ahead and so quickly, sac material and a queen, in order to get a wining position and fixed the opponent queen. And for what is worth, the guy acted like it was nothing. Man that was frightening, what a brain.

    • @spartanspeedruns8386
      @spartanspeedruns8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah during the game I was thinking there's no way he can sack the queen, that just looks like suicide.

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frightening? Did you have trouble sleeping over a chess game?

  • @tcyoshida8818
    @tcyoshida8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    Aman has AlphaZero in his veins get that fish outta here.

    • @commentor5479
      @commentor5479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like pie!

    • @pratyaydey2769
      @pratyaydey2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like lizards more.... The big carnivorous lizards.

    • @alosdias156
      @alosdias156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that fish clapped alpha

    • @Jartran72
      @Jartran72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People don't understand what Alpha zero actually is. It is a computer, not an engine. And while it initially beat stockfish (after learning the game in 4 hours, the next version of the fish already beat it realibly. This version of stockfish beats any current engine and it would beat alpha zero.

    • @tcyoshida8818
      @tcyoshida8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jartran72 Thank you for the enlightenment. I know better now~

  • @tankoteemusic9755
    @tankoteemusic9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    Maybe an invitation to the Alpha Zero headquarters soon.

    • @Im0nlyHuman
      @Im0nlyHuman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      69

    • @Ninjalectual
      @Ninjalectual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They are going to upload Aman's brain to the computer and make him even more powerful

    • @pythonpillow1114
      @pythonpillow1114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ninjalectual you can add makeup to a pig but adding a pig to makeup is senseless. The alpha zero team will most likely buy a big computer case & just have Aman inside. Be rid of pigs.

  • @seanspawn7805
    @seanspawn7805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Imprisoning the Queen like that was Wow. I've never seen that before.

  • @summitaryal9140
    @summitaryal9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    Brilliant move. This deserves an Agadmator review.

    • @thunder7433
      @thunder7433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      agadmator can make a draw a amazing video, imagine what he can do with this

    • @kartoffeldealer9020
      @kartoffeldealer9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @ettaprimm4448
      @ettaprimm4448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I would like Gotham's review on this

    • @summitaryal9140
      @summitaryal9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ettaprimm4448 Gothamchess for recaps everyday :)

    • @JB_inks
      @JB_inks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ettaprimm4448 congratulations, you are an excellent recommender of chess video channels

  • @nofloco3175
    @nofloco3175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    Stockfish 13 sees the queen sac at depth 27.

    • @Gush27
      @Gush27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does it really?

    • @codex4336
      @codex4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Mine found it at depth 30 (Using the dev version)

    • @redhadoken3172
      @redhadoken3172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      But does it see the knight move two moves before?

    • @codex4336
      @codex4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redhadoken3172 Wdym?

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      So basically what's happening here is probably Aman just figured "I'm gonna win the endgame because I have an extra knight" on which he was correct because he's playing a 2600. But to stockfish, the endgame is way more tricky and requires higher depth to figure out. If he played that position against stockfish, stockfish would probably find a way to maneuver those pawns and the queen to actually win it.

  • @SebastiaanVaz
    @SebastiaanVaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Engine simply had its ego hurt and didn't want to admit your move was indeed brilliant

  • @eam8504
    @eam8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    You need to give the person who made that intro a shit ton of money.

  • @mxyzptlk1616
    @mxyzptlk1616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I've been saying for a min; this is the beauty of Aman's game. He has some Nezhmitdinov in his spirit. His game is artful, and he plays it intuitively. I'd rather watch Aman lose an interesting game, than watch a "stronger" GM win an essentially predetermined one.

    • @wbotti
      @wbotti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well said! so entertaining

  • @filipwichrowski5141
    @filipwichrowski5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    holy shit, I was really impressed a few weeks ago when Aman sacrifaced two rooks to checkmate the opponent, but one could say that it still was within a spirit of the london system middlegame plan. but this queen sac right here is simply another level, no way I could see it in a milion years, absolutely amazing.

    • @dan1e1473
      @dan1e1473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Agree, a sacrifice that creates a positional advantage is much harder to find than a sacrofice that allows for a mate

  • @ccee3860
    @ccee3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    The reason why alphazero won the tournament against stockfish was because aman IS alphazero.. it all makes sense now

    • @junwei8480
      @junwei8480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      that was 2017 now stonkfish has asserted his dominance

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's because aman wasn't in the tournament

    • @pythonpillow1114
      @pythonpillow1114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@junwei8480 just you wait until the alpha zero team buys a computer case... & puts Aman in there.

  • @lxWiNNeRxl
    @lxWiNNeRxl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Legend has it that the engine uses Aman to cheat

    • @fh2234
      @fh2234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @carnevalnbg
    @carnevalnbg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:35 "when asked to comment Mr Hambleton just said ' don't forget to subscribe to our channel ' "

  • @TheJayMoses
    @TheJayMoses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is mind blowing. How quickly Aman saw that idea and then calculated all the way through it is unbelievable. So freaking cool.

  • @zakkziegler111
    @zakkziegler111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Holy Jesus.
    Congratulations, man.
    That's a feat, seriously. What an amazingly titled article.

    • @brettjones327
      @brettjones327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Indeed. It is unbelievable that the article is real...like, literally unbelievable. :)

    • @radscorpion8
      @radscorpion8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@brettjones327 On youtube, where people believe in flat earth, you genuinely can't tell who is being serious and who is joking lol

    • @Zack_Taylor
      @Zack_Taylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@radscorpion8 This has a name! It's called "Poe's law."

    • @apiv97
      @apiv97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zack_Taylor poe's law, thanks for this gem, gonna use it

    • @no.4613
      @no.4613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zack_Taylor thanks dude

  • @lalajun5902
    @lalajun5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    What if you put some depth? I noticed that Aman chose depth 18, usually after depth 30 +, engine will understand what is going on
    Edit: after checking with lichess stockfish 13 nnue, it didnt found D3 after 10m, until you play it and then it realized it's also a good move. Yeah i think it's a briliant Move engine couldnt find, engine prefer g4 for immediate check mate threat and white needs to give back materials and then black will win endgame with pawns advantage, but human wise, d3 is much better to calculate and to convert

    • @Corteum
      @Corteum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      SF13 likes both options but prefers Neg4.
      21. ..Neg4 +6.57 @ 58 depth
      21. ..Nd3 +5.98 @ 59 depth

    • @junwei8480
      @junwei8480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Corteum Neg4 is 58 depth and the other one is 59 depth tho

    • @Corteum
      @Corteum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@junwei8480 It doesn't make a difference. Neg4 is SF13's preferred move all the way through, even if you go to 60+ depth. Try it.

    • @Corteum
      @Corteum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@junwei8480 Nd3 @ 58 depth is +5.64

    • @junwei8480
      @junwei8480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Corteum how did you even go to 60 depth

  • @adamdavidson9717
    @adamdavidson9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Literally broke the engine and maintains the most chill Canadian Chessbrah vibe. Aman is literally POG

  • @usualhumanxd353
    @usualhumanxd353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Alright, I'm going for the fun"
    Aaand he went for perfection again KEKW holy smokes

  • @willihv24
    @willihv24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aman is way too modest, this was such a beautiful idea haha

  • @Blazeingphoenix
    @Blazeingphoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After many many weeks of teaching everyone good habits (and for free at that) as well as starting a new educational series, he's now surpassed the engine. It's like these educational series as unlocked something in Aman to show us where we all can be by following his series. And, again, all his educational stuff is free, unlike a lot of other chess stuff. A true hero of chess.

  • @szymonozimek
    @szymonozimek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just checked it on Lichess - 3 years later Stockfish still doesn't see the move lol xddd

  • @BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n
    @BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Can Aman defeat Eric now?
    A Battle between these two more with 10 minute games would be wonderful. And get dylan to commentate

    • @yusufbingul467
      @yusufbingul467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      + Yasser to commentate

    • @tommykimberlin7528
      @tommykimberlin7528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It’s kind of an unspoken rule that they never play each other lol

    • @luscious9797
      @luscious9797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommykimberlin7528 eric is rated far above 3k on chess.com He's a tad weaker than the supergm's, maybe right about where danya is.

    • @MIAMiKraneman
      @MIAMiKraneman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tommykimberlin7528 Even if they did, I have a feeling it might be a private game.

  • @JordanMetroidManiac
    @JordanMetroidManiac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember Hikaru saying something along the lines of, “Oh Aman? Well, Aman isn’t that good at chess,” as he responded to someone asking in his live chat about chessbrahs. I think Aman is showing what he’s really capable of here!

    • @mattlikespandas7019
      @mattlikespandas7019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aman isn’t really that much to Hikaru tho, hikaru is like top 3 bullet and blitz

    • @purplism4857
      @purplism4857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hikaru is a man child with an ego the size of canada

    • @justinjager8412
      @justinjager8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hikaru also isn't the most likeable chess player

    • @fh2234
      @fh2234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is someone not that good at chess being a Grandmaster lol? There are only like 1000 people who have achieved that.

  • @Slywolf1992
    @Slywolf1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stockfish has a hard time finding my moves too. But not because they are too good 😂

  • @FT029
    @FT029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that was a beautiful idea. the position after the sacrifice is still quite sharp (e.g. if white plays Qe5, black can only play Rd7 or Rd8 to win). great video and game

  • @varjunind1
    @varjunind1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is Amans best game on TH-cam for me

  • @ScreenSneakPeeks
    @ScreenSneakPeeks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By the way Brandon, thank you very much for the release of ROW during lock down. you saved me from a bad case of anxiety.

  • @sebastiankrutschoff842
    @sebastiankrutschoff842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The engine saw the madlads move, had a stroke and forgot everything about chess for the rest of the analysis.

  • @djhart25
    @djhart25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My entire chess 'career' can be summed by "It's a bold move Cotton, lets see how it plays out for him"

  • @ugotpwned999
    @ugotpwned999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is nothing more satisfying than clicking the like button on a cbrah video

  • @interstellarbeatteller9306
    @interstellarbeatteller9306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:26 Stockfish found the 7 innacuracies, 8 mistakes & 2 blunders thou!

  • @joshualevinson7507
    @joshualevinson7507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found this video today, and checking out that game in your archive, it looks like it does give a brilliant to that queen sac now, and says Nd3 as the best move. Interesting to see how a few years of engine development make a difference.

  • @HealthyScratch21
    @HealthyScratch21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Aman goes missing after this, it’s probably fair to say he got kidnapped and his brain is being used to program the next great chess engine.

  • @jaakezzz_G
    @jaakezzz_G 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you have to expand the lines out to see what the differences are, the depth looks 18 or more moves ahead, the lines can be exactly the same up to the 16th or 17th move ahead.

  • @mouwersor
    @mouwersor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the problem is optimization. There's no way the engine wouldn't see that move if it was just brute-forcing all the options, but something that seems like a queen-sacrifice with only very long-term benefit (by keeping the enemy queen out of play) get discarded in the search-tree too early on.

    • @slamprogram
      @slamprogram 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you increase the depth it would eventually find it. Stockfish uses iterative deepening so any time it looks one more move into the future it reconsiders some of the moves it previously discarded.

  • @cagaulu
    @cagaulu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Aman Anti Cheat. Bots cant see him cooking.

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    SF13 says...
    21. ..Neg4 +6.57 @ 58 depth
    21. ..Nd3 +5.98 @ 59 depth
    Amazing how you saw Nd3 in a 3+0 game, though. Killer move.

  • @cythefox7510
    @cythefox7510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ideas transcend depth. Hope Stockfish improves their architecture with these examples, like how Tesla improves the AI in their cars with data from every autopilot override.

  • @combot6610
    @combot6610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm confused. Is it a problem with the depth setting of the engine, or does Stockfish genuinely not see the move?

    • @matthewviramontes3131
      @matthewviramontes3131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, he has it on a max depth of 18. He doesn't know how to use an engine

    • @Halibut86
      @Halibut86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewviramontes3131 Is any human going to see more than 18 moves deep?
      Maybe its a practical decision

    • @alessandrotinaoui3428
      @alessandrotinaoui3428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Halibut86 i mean, aman did see all the endgame, he just didn't analize every move but figured that the queen was stuck, while the computer is calculating every line even the ones where it hangs the queen which are nonsense

  • @papillo3956
    @papillo3956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the "a" in alphazero stands for aman

    • @Ninjalectual
      @Ninjalectual 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does the other a stand for?

    • @satwik323
      @satwik323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ninjalectual aman

    • @wolfdragon4176
      @wolfdragon4176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the g stands for good

  • @Lack1nLotus
    @Lack1nLotus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so is chess brah just a group of gms that stream

  • @Kirmo13
    @Kirmo13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The engine didn't see any brilliant moves because Aman is on a whole different level

  • @usuallinkinultimate
    @usuallinkinultimate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stockfish: Bxd4 and we're not too bad after Rxd4, only -0.87!
    Aman: Captures bishop
    Stockfish: Perfect! -2.21
    Aman: Captures bishop
    Stockfish: Exactly what we wanted, -4.23

  • @Anthoman001
    @Anthoman001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aman, you are the Man! [smile] Congratulations on confounding the A.I & proving imagination rules!

  • @thard4698
    @thard4698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just checked this game with the engine today and it will say a move is -0.1 until you play it, then the eval jumps to -5.

  • @vidstige
    @vidstige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My arousal is maintained. Props to Aman for putting some Elo-points on the line to create this master piece.

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when that happens. There's a line in the traxler where the engine gives something like +3, after one more move it says 0, then after another move it says -7.
    It's like it's saying "dude come on, I'll just play this and WAITWHAT"

  • @Rspknlikeab0ssxd
    @Rspknlikeab0ssxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For a class on Tolkien I had in college last year, I composed a dragon sicillian game based on the Hobbit and I found a move for white that the engine just did not see until a move or two after it was played, and then it started going crazy for it. I was really proud of the game, I put a lot of time into making it beautiful and make sense in the context of the book, and the engine didn't catch a move.

    • @blakejhonshen2710
      @blakejhonshen2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you still have the game recorded? I'd love to see that game!

  • @ElSantoDeMostoles
    @ElSantoDeMostoles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stockfish 14 NNUE immediately says that Q d2, c1 or b1 are all the same.
    It also says that Nd3 is not inaccurate but the best move along Neg4.
    Might wanna use higher depth than 18 for better analysis

  • @patrickclinton8228
    @patrickclinton8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for keeping language clean. Not like some other chess sites.

  • @pgt8001
    @pgt8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    straight fire Aman....txs for proving the limitations of chess engines.

  • @Kellestial
    @Kellestial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legend has it, Hikaru’s ceiling monitor has now been replaced with Aman taped to the ceiling

  • @wbotti
    @wbotti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brilliant strategy Aman. Huge props for this great instructive game

  • @UwU-xk5cx
    @UwU-xk5cx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engine after queen e1: *this is either madness or brilliance*

  • @philipnoyes9129
    @philipnoyes9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put the position in rignt before Ne5 d3, engine is saying the best move is Ne5 g5 is the best move from a depth of 27-41, I’ll keep y’all updated as I go up to 99, or attempt to get to 99 depth, then I’ll put in Ne5 d3 and see what is says

  • @8lb6ozbabyjsus
    @8lb6ozbabyjsus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was so upset with a puzzle once. I had spent upwards of 5 or so minutes trying to figure it out. Finally made my move and it was wrong. Analyzed the move and it said I had mate in 8. Then I did the correct answer to the puzzle and it said +7 . Why!?

  • @anvb5a1
    @anvb5a1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The engine saw the mate but was looking for better! (it watched Aman's vids)

  • @Daniele.Rossini
    @Daniele.Rossini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Traveller from the future here: Stockfish 14+ NNUE says that the best move is Neg4 and gives -5.2, because Aman's move it "only" gives -2.0 adavntage, but actually, when you play on with the line, it gives immediately -5.4 for black with the Queen Sac! So still as today Aman made the best move and the engine *still doesn't see it* from the starting position (all this analysis is done at depth 40 cloud, so not low by any mean).
    P.s. Yeah 2022 sucks as well.

  • @watfunstu9086
    @watfunstu9086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Further analysis needed!

  • @YanzBra
    @YanzBra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pretty crazy tbh. To outsmart an engine in 2021 is some God tier stuff

  • @elindauer
    @elindauer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen this before and am still blown away. When the AI takes over, our only chance will be to challenge them to a game of chess and send in Aman. Good luck us!

  • @leagueplays2100
    @leagueplays2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay but 6:12 white can move the queen to a1 threatening the rook and you can't promote. I guess still possible to win the pawns in the end with the knight

  • @sebastiandierks7919
    @sebastiandierks7919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The computer is just on depth 18. Amans idea that white won't be able to use his queen, is more long-term, Qxe1 is a positional sac. Computers are often bad recognizing such ideas, but especially if it's only on such low depth. Maybe the winning line takes around those 18 moves with perfect play, considering that the computer suddenly sees it one move before playing Qxe1. You can put analysis on unlimited depth with a diamond membership, if it still doesn't see it at higher depths I'm really impressed. It was a very brilliant idea and positional understanding of Aman anyway of course, independ of whether the computer sees it or not.

  • @maciekbajorek5514
    @maciekbajorek5514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engine doesn't see my moves either

  • @ernestodelgato930
    @ernestodelgato930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theory time... Interestingly, the value of the queen in the starting position is 9. A rook is 5, a knight is 3 and a pawn is 1. So in theory, a rook, pawn and knight is worth 1 queen. In this case, it should be a draw. However, again, in theory, a pawn advanced to the 7th rank is worth a rook, so once the pawn was advanced to d7, just the rook and pawn is worth 1 point more than a queen. Together with the knight, overall, black has a 5 point advantage and is a material evaluation of a rook up in this position.

  • @llamaryder1
    @llamaryder1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How am I supposed to start the procedure if not even the engine understands these moves.

  • @mwilkes510
    @mwilkes510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took my Stockfish almost three minutes to find the correct continuation and evaluation after Nd3

  • @willihv24
    @willihv24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All jokes aside, this was a beautiful game, and beautiful idea by Aman

  • @boof45
    @boof45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the right move was actually Neg4 his move is only better if the opponent ended up taking the queen with the rook

  • @TheGushroom
    @TheGushroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engine always says I made mistakes and never gives me any "brilliant" moves neither.

  • @user-jd2kv1mr7m
    @user-jd2kv1mr7m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the engine understands them more than him

  • @вінницькийпсихопат
    @вінницькийпсихопат 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm gonna send this game to agadmator

  • @yesman8074
    @yesman8074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We aren't smart enough to even comprehend stockfish so clearly WE don't have any idea what's going on

  • @MeediaArtur
    @MeediaArtur 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video will be played to boost morale in human species in year 2945 before the final battle vs AI over europe.

  • @BirdDawg1
    @BirdDawg1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of these explanations please, from a humble 1400. Thank you.

  • @S0CD0C
    @S0CD0C 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so engine cant see the idea of taking a piece out of the game without actually capturing it until later in the line

  • @xanatar3009
    @xanatar3009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We haven't seen a player>engine moment like this since PICK UP THE DEPTH

  • @TheWambat
    @TheWambat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me a 1500 wondering how many best moves the engine has missed in my games

  • @Steve.p.007
    @Steve.p.007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I replayed the position with Stockfish10, and it saw the danger of black's attack. It even scored Black higher as soon as exd3.

  • @BigAsciiHappyStar
    @BigAsciiHappyStar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand Qb1. Black just takes on e1 and reaches the same position

  • @kmktruthserum9328
    @kmktruthserum9328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not that good but I've honestly had these type of problems with the engine before where it will say something's a mistake or inaccuracy but end up in the exact same position that I ended up later on with different moves. and you can say that maybe I wasn't seeing something correctly but it's really this engine has some issues when it comes to inaccuracies sometimes

  • @JohnKuhles1966
    @JohnKuhles1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Engine should have a build in option to show (upload) evidence of a better move that is beyond their own Stockfish 13 Algorithms and reward it with additional reward not calling it just a "brilliant move" but "ultra brilliant move" or "ultra excellence move" ... because it is extremely rare for a human to find anything beyond Stockfish 13 ... Imagine a Top 10 contest each year showing the latest human made finds that is beyond Stockfish 13 and make a video about that each year! ... Maybe there is a pattern to be found WHY Stockfish can not see it.

  • @herojitsorokhaibam2928
    @herojitsorokhaibam2928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think strength of brilliant moves depends on the depth 18, 22,30 etc. Yes in this video the computer doesn't understand the position.

  • @EfexSuomi
    @EfexSuomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever I play the engine is also confused by my moves.

  • @blackwolf6978
    @blackwolf6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @chessbrah Fun fact: You actually need Stockfish 14 to run about 2 min (depth 29), until it recommends Aman's Nd3!

  • @brianasselta9237
    @brianasselta9237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! Dude! Dude! Had to give you a dude hatrick. Love the channel. My chess is improving cause ive been watching. Outstanding!

  • @Jayhawk92
    @Jayhawk92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how do they determine the ELO of the move? Is it just equating the minimum depth of the engine that can find it?

  • @bobing1752
    @bobing1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was absolutely wonderful

  • @clivethereddevil3178
    @clivethereddevil3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my Stockfish 14 sees ..Qxe1+ at a depth of 33 ply and rates it -4.75 - a black win. Amazing. It suggests Bc1,instead of Bxd4,as does Fritz 18.

  • @stealthyshadow567
    @stealthyshadow567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aight so next time the engine says i blunder 9 times in one game I can say it doesn’t know what it’s talking about.

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the bright side at least it proves you're not cheating 🤣

  • @HistoryFathom
    @HistoryFathom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    aman is a beast. first that double rook sac awhile ago and now this. I need some training from these gm's lol. its sucks being stuck at 1600

  • @kweno1022
    @kweno1022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    only watched the first minute so far but this is already a great video

  • @Tophbbq
    @Tophbbq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PUT THAT FISH IN THE DIRT AMAN

  • @lnmend
    @lnmend 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    official jr needs to drop cant beat it on soundcloud