He has nothing to lose, he has everything a chess player could ever imagine. FIDE as an organization on the other hand have everything to lose, they overestimated their influence, especially by threatening top players over not participating in the freestyle chess tournament (which Magnus reportedly poured in more than 10m $ into) and with this last act it reached a breaking point. FIDE is delusional if they think they can antagonize the GOAT to such an extent. It is FIDE itself that will change as a result of this.
Way more famous, accomplished and powerful people than Magnus like Nadal, Federer, Djokovic never broke the White dress code of Wimbledon. Either way, goodbye Magnus 😂😂
He's dressed in casual business attire. FIDE needs to update its rules. I've worked in a few corporate jobs and many people wear similar to what he's wearing, and it certainly looks professional.
Unfortunately Levy doesn't have the balls to tell Magnus what he told Hans (after Magnus falsely accused Hans of cheating) that you won't get far in life if you talk like that to people. Hans probably fell out of his chair laughing when he heard it 😂
@assaqwwq I see why you with your low character idolize one of the few people who have successfully cheated in offline events and openly cheated online
@@anuraghere-fehso someone's opinion is only valid if they are number 1. Okay, good to know your opinion doesn't matter 😂 talking like those billionaire simps "Elon is rich therefore smart"
@@DrMike005 That's kind of odd, no? As a casual player, one of the main advantages other players will have over you is remembering various lines of an opening, which is pretty much made useless in the freestyle format. Now I'm not saying that casual players would even care about the disadvantages they have as a player in the first place, but if you were new to chess and didn't want to deal with such a disadvantage then I think freestyle would appeal to these players much more.
Now that a man suffered from an ancient rule that has kept women and poor s out of chess, you suddenly care? 😂😂😂 What a great guy you are 😂😂😂 EVERYONE LOOK, HE CARES NOW. It's okay, you'll forget by tomorrow
@@assaqwwq How does formal/business wear keeps women out of chess? You do realize that there are suits for women as well, right? Also, dresses are a thing
@@assaqwwq You're telling me that in today's world, a woman can't wear a suit and men's clothing? Even if they don't allow dresses, it's clothing that doesn't change with gender.
fide being like "you can't wear jeans & a sweater otherwise it makes chess look unprofessional" whilst running the most incompetant chess tournament imaginable ...
Chess players haven't looked professional in ages. If they're really worried about the image of the game get rid of the nascar-esque branded jackets, if not then don't cry about small problems.
@@HemBabuKarki-ue6tn wtf does what you're wearing matter to the peices on the table? thats not chess, thats dumb burocracy and a dictatorship mentality
So I just looked up the FIDE dress code and this seems weird. In section 3 it says jeans are acceptable. But in section four it says they are not for Winners in award ceremonies. Seeing as this is not an award ceremony it doesnt seem like the no jeans rule should apply. There might be somewhere else where it specifically states the higher dresscode for high profile games or champion players or whatever, but from the easily accessible FIDE dress code PDF it deosnt seem like Magnus was in violation. Which means its actually completely reasonable for him to not know he wasnt supposed to wear jeans. If he did break a rule its not nearly as clear cut as it would seem. And if he did since its a technicality on dresscode he could reasonably not be aware of bringing the hammer down on it doesnt feel right. He was already performing worse than he would like and he didnt want to go to his hotel and back for a pair of pants and mess with his flow. You can say he should've sucked it up and done it anyway, but seeing as he's been getting fed up with FIDE in general recently he decided to crash out instead. Regardless of what you think of Magnus' choice here I think this was not the time for FIDE to be stringent about dresscode technicalities. Also according to Nepo many, many players had similar slight violations of dresscode, so from an event perspective, maybe send out some kind of memo to all teams and players reminding them of the rules and that they will be strictly enforced the next day instead of deciding its top priority for certain players part way through one day. Just spitballing but I think that would be a better approach. Since he was far from the only one in violation that really makes me think this wasnt clearly communicated from the outset.
Very reasonable take. I would also suggest that since many players will have travelled to take part in the tournament they are unlikely to have been able to bring a large wardrobe of clothes with them and so it is really incumbent on FIDE to make the dress code very clear well ahead of time. I don't know all the details of this situation and so far I have only heard Magnus' side of the story but it does appear to be a rather petty and churlish enforcement of the rules by FIDE.
They showed the (very unprofessional looking) slide for World Championship events, and it had "jeans" with a big red stamp that said "NOT ALLOWED" and "Jeans are not widely accepted to be formal attire" - which frankly just is not true in 2024.
If the jeans were a problem, they should have been a problem before game 1. Just let chess players arrive an hour in advance for inspection of the dress code. Also dress codes are such an ancient concept.
@@xCupressocyparis The dress codes are clear but Magnus made a mistake by not wearing the correct pants because he was in a hurry. Everyone has the proper clothes in the world championship and they know very well what to wear in a chess tournament. @r0260064 I don't mind the dress codes as a concept. Imagine if everyone was wearing advertisements on their clothes like in other sports
well, ok? but 1. whats the time difference between putting on jeans or pants 2. he could change after people point it it out. he is just fucking arrogant 😂 why do people always find excuses to feed his ego. he is not a newbie anyway. he should know best.
Events like this should be selling the game as young and exciting not telling the world that if your clothes aren’t fuddy duddy enough you’re not wanted.
So true, it's one thing showing up in your underwear, any restrictions above this (within reason) is just over stepping what they actually are, a game of chess... People say Magnus has ego, but "Chess" has ego problem, FIDE is out of touch and it will be a good day when they realise they're just a name and nothing more.
@@andrewearth469 if they're nothing more, than they would have already been replaced? Plenty other "names" out there. They just don't have the credibility or global network of fide... that's the problem.
Disagree, I think it's a prestigious game with a classy culture and that's good. I don't think we should be applauding a guy who can't show up on time or adhere to KNOWN dress codes just because he's really good at chess.
Magnus had reportedly completed 3 of the 4 rounds scheduled for the day and instead of being notified that he'd need to be in compliance with said dress code for the beginning of the next days rounds, he's instructed like a school boy that he must go home and change clothes immediately; this doesn't seem reasonable; Magnus is easily the greatest ambassador (many would also say the greatest player) the game of Chess has ever had, and a tiny bit of leniency would have been wiser.
He wasn't asked to change "immediately". He was given time up until round 9. Magnus should be a great ambassador for the sport but with that kind of behaviour (not complying to rules he accepted ahead of the tournament), he is not.
@@EhtesamUddinPrince what makes him the goat? He is not the one with the most world championships. His elo? One day someone will achieve 2900 and everybody will forget magnus. He will be just one of the many world champions in chess
@@DrMike005 The rules do not state the punishment if I'm not mistaken. Banning for even a game is way out of line for this. A fine for a couple of hundred bucks would be sufficient. And there have been many players with jeans who weren't harrased. Probably because they weren't televised. But if you throw out the goat because of a rule you better make sure that it is generally applied.
Armenian Grandmaster Andriasian was wearing jeans. Acquitted in the jury room in the same case as Carlsen: - not jeans From VG look for: Frikjent på juryrommet i samme sak som Carlsen: - Ikke olabukse
Who’s the psychopath that kicks out someone from a tournament because he is wearing blue jeans instead of another type of trousers? What’s the problem that prevents him from competing? What’s chess got to do with this nonsense? All top players should take a strong stance on this
Who is the psychopath who agrees to the tournament rules by participating then violates the rules, is given the chance to comply within a reasonable timeframe, but then decides to throw the towel instead of complying like everyone else? If he had an issue with the dress code, he should have spoken up when it was released and feedback was sought for. He could have still uttered his concerns ahead of the tournament, or while complying. This isn't about jeans, this is more likely about Carlsen's poor performance (for his standards) in this tournament and the fact that he is financially involved in a non-FIDE event and begrudges FIDE for not lying down when random organisations claim they are organising "world championship" events. There is a mature way to resolve differences and Magnus did not choose it.
@@coolcat23 He said he would change them tomorrow after finishing the last game. He took the fine, he clearly had no issues with the rule existing and just made a mistake. What is insane is going beyond a fine and requiring the player to go change between games when they should be preparing for the next game. Magnus's chances at the tournament were still completely fine. It wouldn't have been the easiest win ever by any means but he has played and won worse without causing a problem. FIDE is the one who decided to escalate from a fine to ending Magnus's tournament run. Additionally, why should FIDE hold the exclusive rights to the words "world championship"? Clearly they hold those rights for the "World Chess Championship" and the "World Rapid and Blitz Chess Championship", but they have no reason to cause problems for the "Freestyle Chess World Championship" which does not use their branding or the names associated with FIDE nor runs in a format FIDE officially governs in chess. If someone decided to start another random tournament and called it the "World Chess Championship" then absolutely FIDE would be within their right as governing body to take issue with that, as they run the world classical chess championship. But they do not run a freestyle chess world championship, and therefore have no right to govern that tournament and the naming conventions of it.
@@Midaspleveryone has bad days!...he has nothing to prove.....ask Gukesh to play blitz and rapid and get a win against top players!...gukesh is a beast in classical but magnus has proven himself with lots of tournaments winning one another in all formats
@@MidasplBruh, the man has won like 13 tournaments this year alone. Isn't it literally the GOAT when you've won that many games and people still slander you when you underperform in a 1 tournament?
But when women dgaf they get dragged through the mud and spat out. You should admire it from people that actually have something to lose, like that Iranian climber that didn't climb with a burka on and got kidnapped at the airport by her own government. Bet you didn't know that happened 😊
Funny that you admire the one guy that has nothing to lose. What about all the women that had to wear high heels to a chess game. Imagine someone forced you to wear high heels. But suuuure, admire how the best chess player said FU to organisers in Levy's face while Levy scolded Hans for the same behavior. But Levy doesn't have the balls to tell Magnus how to talk 😂😂 you phonies... When a rich powerful man says something 🍆🍆🍆🍆 when an Iranian climber goes on stage without her burka and gets kidnapped at the airport by her government 🦗🦗🦗🦗
FIDE managers are dumb. Jeans are established all over the world, its casual and business casual as well (i had jeans my whole working life) and a chess tournament is not a dress competition. Chess can easily exist without FIDE, but FIDE cannot exist without Chess players. Think, FIDE!
What should've happened. Arbiter - ''Excuse me Mr Carlsen, I have noticed you are wearing jeans which is against the dress code for this event. I'm afraid you will have to pay a $200 fine and change into the appropriate attire.'' Magnus - ''Oh sorry I wasn't thinking and was in a rush. I am happy to pay the fine however I need to get ready for the next round. I will make sure I am in the correct attire tomorrow.'' Arbiter - ''The rules state you must be in the appropriate attire to play but given the situation I will allow you to finish the day. I hope you can be more careful in the future as we are trying to hold this tournament to the highest standards. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.'' Magnus - ''Thank you I appreciate it.'' What actually happened. Arbiter - ''Excuse me Mr Carlsen, I have noticed you are wearing jeans which is against the dress code for this event. I'm afraid you will have to pay a $200 fine and change into the appropriate attire.'' Magnus - ''Oh sorry I wasn't thinking and was in a rush. I am happy to pay the fine however I need to get ready for the next round. I will make sure I am in the correct attire tomorrow.'' Arbiter - ''No i'm afraid that's not acceptable. You need to change immediately or you will not be paired for the next round and will forfeit all matches until you change.'' Magnus - ''That's fine. F U.''
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus that threat " else you wont be paired for next round " must have pissed him .... They could have chosen the right words atleast while talking with THE GOAT ....
except they let him play the round and change his jeans right after, which he refused. Turns out Magnus wanted a way out after his piss poor performance the first day
@@143priyanshusherawat8 Are you actually pretending that FIDE routinely applies the rules accurately and across the board, AND thats what happened here? Because thats an argument that falls apart almost immediately. FIDE never applies their rules consistently and to everyone. Edit: Nepo quoted today, "If FIDE wanted to, they could dress code 40 players right now in the hall." So i assume Nepo's just lying right?
So much respect for this. Institutions that are way behind the times should pull back with the level of arrogance they treat their breadwinners. Don't bite the hand that feeds.
Should have shown the clip of Nepo saying to Levy that you could probably go dress code 40 other players down in the playing hall. But with the higher ranking/ more popular players theyre seen as easier targets.
@@B00B13S_L0L no apology necessary. I think this whole situation is being blown waaaay out of proportion. Jeans should not get you DQ’d. Magnus called their bluff.
Players. Plural. As near I can tell Carlsen is a great player, but not ALL of them, contrary to the way tournaments are covered these days…. If he was ahead he would’ve gone and changed, 100%…. As for FIDE they’ve been a long while, and will be long after Carlsen. No ONE athlete is a bigger than an entire sport, in any sport. And ALL sports have dress codes.
@@carlkligerman1981FIDE is also no infallible. Other chess organization exist and multiple PR failures, like this one, pushes FIDE ever so closer to being taken over by another willing to take its spot. And if you disagree with me about this incident being bad for FIDE, thats fine, but im willing to bet that many players and spectators would agree that the game comes first, not a dress code.
@@carlkligerman1981 Similarly to your argument, FIDE is not "the chess". There is no rule in chess (game) that prohibits you to wear jeans. Them forcing players to either choose FIDE or Freestyle chess is already going past their boundries. Next thing you know they will prohibit you to play chess at home with your friends :). Everything comes from people and popularity, if people are not enjoying things you do they will not watch you no matter how long of a history you have (plenty of giant organisations have gone bankrupt in the past). FIDE enforcing this rules is basically trying to cling on their powers even though their power comes from nothinig but people. Eventually it is gonna lead to their downfall (mark my words).
I thought he threw the mic across the room by the way you guys spoke about it. It was a mic drop. Can’t say I’d have the same bad etiquette though, but he wins 🤷🏾♂️
I think it's a mix of Magnus being irritated he's not playing a very good tournament + the organizers telling him to change before the next game. Like.. okay you fined him, and okay make sure you change tomorrow, but between games? That's just petty. I think they're bitter because he's promoting chess960.
Honestly, though, he was on 5/8. 2 wins in the next round would have propelled him to top spot! He was not that far behind and Carlsen has done it before many times over. He starts slow in most tournaments.
Good for Magnus! For anyone in FIDE to make an issue of dress code in middle of a tournament and mess with the mental state of the best player in the world, it speaks to more serious issues and it takes someone exactly like Magnus to stand his ground and force a correction in attitude.
Why didn't you say that every time a woman got penalized for not being sexy enough to play chess? I guess keeping women and poor people down isn't newsworthy enough for you 😂😂
Magnus was not doing well in the tournament. He was finding excuses to throw his tantrum like a small child. So, he decided to not observe the dress code. You guys are so stupid to support a child's tantrum just because he is the best-rated player. Teach Magnus a life lesson.
FIDE does not own the game. They are only the custodians of the game. This is not a dictatorship regime that they would impose unreasonable absurd rules.
@@alumpy-acho112 It's chess not a physical sport. Many brilliant chess players, even kids, that come from places that are not well off so expecting them to have grandiose clothing is ridiculous.
@@alumpy-acho112 The difference is the discretion of enforcement. The NFL, which has far more reasons such as safety to enforce a dress code, even knows to use discretion and won't pull players off the field for stuff like sock policy violations (see Tyreek Hill as an example who has been fined 6 times.) They should have stuck with a fine and warned him that if he came back the next day with the same pants, then he would be DQ'd. That would have solved this issue and been far better for everyone, but the arbiter had an ego
The biggest without a doubt. Just to be precise, Magnus was not even badly dressed, and initially he did not refuse to respect the rule, he only asked to be given the opportunity to correct his clothing the next day. However, since they have no judgment, they decided to pursue him and insist until they provoke him... be careful, the threats to players who dare to play free style chess are true. Great Magnus, you have to say it and you said it.
Rulea are meant to be adhered to. Its not open to interpretation. Soon you will have all games like the super chess events flashy headphones ..except for the commentators hysteria I find those events extremely gimmicky
There are rules and there are rules. Like who tf actually cares if Magnus was wearing jeans. In what universe does that hurt anyone? Being a human being is more important than adhering to a meaningless rule.
Yea, the rules do not say you need to kick a player out and his dressing was not shabby, destroying for any sponsors or anything like that, you also need to udnerstand why the rules where made.... Magnus did not put shame on the sport, his jeans matched his shirt and jacket... This made no sence at all.
Fide forgets thats people started following chess recently not because them but because people like magnus, gotham, botez, hikaru, etc that created content that we people enjoy across multiple media, if they mess with the player we care, then they will lose the battle, we are in 2024. Forcing magnus to wear a specific attaire to make a statements is simple BS.
The only thing fide tells peoples with this is that only penguins can play.. It gives the exact same vibes as (as Carlin said): "Its a big club, and you ain't in it".
@@gredaxokay I totally agree he didn’t follow the rule but isn’t it weird to change between rounds? Can he make it to the game in time? And also why no jeans? I didn’t get it also nepo was fined for the white sweater Really weird
I work in CORPORATE ACCOUNTING which you can imagine has some pretty strict restrictions on attire. Jeans, as long as it’s paired nicely with something like a shirt and a jacket, is perfectly fine. Doing this for a chess tournament is so utterly ridiculous… FIDE needs to be abolished or massively reformed ASAP!!!
Discretion (fine him) would have solved this amicably and been good for the game. Instead, the arbiter chose the heavy handed ego approach to enforce the rule with no discretion which will do nothing but harm the tournament, sponsors, FIDE, and chess as a whole. The NFL and better organizations don't pull players like Tyreek Hill off the field for sock policy violations, they slap them with a fine because they know the fans care more about the players than the organization and they know what is important.
so you think a $200 fine will make him learn. He's GOAT but an arrogant person. He was warned before the march and he chose not to correct his mistake. Had this been the case with any other player this channel wouldn't be making such a big deal out of this!
@@deadpool8580 He already admitted he was wrong and that he would change his clothes for the next day. Why the need to ruin his tournament when he's already down in points by giving him a forfeit for the 9th round? Just stupid ego from the arbiters.
@@deadpool8580 Losing a round as a forfeit when you're already 2 points from the leader and only 5 rounds left is basically making it impossible for him to even make it top 3. Why waste his time?
@@HusaynMirrules are rules for everyone. Even after getting warned you still don’t change ,then it’s your fault . It happens in all games not only chess .
Good for him. Fuck the people that think it matters what the worlds best chess player wears. Enough snobbery and more play. To think they are going to distract him with fines and forcing to change mid-day when he is already in his mental temple is crazy. Let him be until the day end and talk to him about it then, if ever.
According to the dress code, fine for the first infringement (round 7 if I had to take a guess), 2nd infringement for round 8 which means disqualification for the next round. Seems like they did what they announced. However, dress code also applies to officials and other players, and they seem to have been much more lazy there. The double standards are much more of the issue imho
@@SteffiHammerich wow I just looked it up. Jeans are allowed. So it was not reasonable to expect a player not to come in jeans, he was following the written dress code. There is officially no excuse for this, he would probably win an appeal but doesn't care enough anymore.
@@SteffiHammerich I mean I guess in section 4 it says no jeans for winners, but I don't think he was necessarily in the winners category yet? I'm not quite sure how that's distinguished. Either way since it's a two tiered system of dress code, him wanting to dress to the higher standard for the next, bigger day seems pretty reasonable.
A fine is more than sufficient punishment for not following a dress code. Tbh even a one-day warning would do. He said he would fix the issue the next day so that should have been that. This is going to be much more damaging to FIDE than it is to Magnus
What’s weird to me is that in the FIDE dress code it’s explicitly stated that Jeans are allowed, only torn Jeans are forbidden. Now, Magnus‘ jeans seem perfectly fine and not torn to me. Am I missing something? Was the dress code updated for this tournament?
@gredax actually FIDE is... they're just looking for any excuse to throw Magnus out asap they hate him for boycotting their WC giving it a bad rep and verbally opposing them in general. Otherwise they would be reasonable and either provide him a pair of slacks to change into that day or allow him to come back in proper attire the next day.
@cris-yo1950 who cares how it looks?? Is what I would have said before I learnt about the clear dress code policy for the event. Still a pretty extreme measure on something that should've been resolved with a fine in my opinion
Another example of a corporation ruining sport or art. I'm with Magnus on this and not because he is Magnus but because all my life I try and follow common sense: 1.) people watching chess want to see good chess in the first place, dress code is the last of our worries 2.) rules should be the same for everyone- either everyone with jeans allowed to play, or allowed not to play (which didn't happen) 3.) the dress code rule is there to uphold a certain standard of formality and class- a) nice jeans of grey or black colour are in many places considerered a formal attire nowadays & b) this ruckus caused exactly the opposite of what the rule is there for, the event is now laughable 4.) the rules enforcements should be scaled properly as to the importance of the broken rule: a fine is completely acceptable for this minor offence, banning someone from play in case they broke it again is completely acceptable, but banning someone (let alone a defending champion) right away and thus ruining his chances at winning and many people's viewing experience, that is completely innacceptable. 5.) if FIDE really cares that much about suit trousers that they want them changed immediately, they should offer the players spare ones
Actually a few correction: 2.) Other players had to change clothes for example Nepo. 4.) He had been given multiple rounds to change the jeans for something else.
@@Ploeppsel 2.) the players on lower ranked boards were left as they were 4.) there's almost no time between rounds, certainly not to go to tailor's, he was basically given no chance
Like he cares about chess... That's why he stopped playing classical.. that's why he's selling apps while Vishy Anand is busy building up the next generation of GMs Magnus is busy calling kids cheaters and picking a fight with the organizers. What a pro, what a character, what a great human being 🤣🤣🤣
If fide is crying about plain jeans which cant be really seen during matches and not letting him play today change for tomorrow i can see why magnus did what he did . I dont think its ridiculous
@@assaqwwqstop crying man take take take is a good app + its his decision to do what he wants its doesn’t make him a bad human( because its not harmfull ofc) thats a very bad argument to say someone is bad
@@assaqwwq Vishy is nowhere near Magnus in chess, any one on Magnus' level knows that classical chess is just memorization. Magnus didn't leave rapid and blitz because they don't require you to sit at the board and stress out for 6 hours. Vishy didn't build the next generation of GMs, he wasted the lives of hundreds of children on chess.
@@assaqwwqare you trying to say that Magnus is now obliged to serve humanity otherwise he is a bad person? Teach kids, help poor, save oceans from plastic? Who are you to decide how someone must live their life? The divine arbiter?
This is really the kind of thing that makes both chess and golf feel snobby. Pageantry takes precedent over the actual game and it ruins it for everyone, just sad.
@tomsoyer5639 the way he was playing and the way he reacted both have nothing to do with the rule being dumb in the first place. But sure man stay woke 😂
@@brendencooper5290 No one argues the rule isnt dumb, but there is a time and a place. Inbetween rounds isnt one of them. And yeah he knew the rules and decided to break them on purpose, when asked to change clothes he refused, on purpose obviously. And what has woke got to do with anything.
I've not heard any top GM's have a lot of nice things to say about FIDE. It'd be cool if Naka and some other would say, if Magnus isn't playing, I'm not playing.
Ofc he is redpiled on the J...he was talking to mister no one with J surname. LEVY ROZMAN which clearly is a constructed individual. Sure he knows about them. He was even moking their surnames calling himself Dr.DrunkenSTEIN years ago.
The jeans rule is stupid. Once a penalty is applied, forcing a player to change between rounds is heavy handed, so unless the case is extreme, it’s stupid. I’ve heard from a few places that there are other players wearing jeans or sporting dress code violations. One could argue that going after the top guy sets an example, but I would argue that if it’s a problem you should go after everyone, or no one. On the back of the recent tension between Carlsen and FIDE regarding freestyle chess, this smacks of potential corruption, especially if the rule has been unequally enforced. When a player of Magnus’ reputation walks away because of a “simple” rule enforcement, that could be because they are a diva, or because of a long standing policy of bullheaded corrupt crony bureaucratic decision making. I see it as mostly the latter.
Why not both. The guy who falsely accused Hans is definitely the biggest diva. But sexism and elitism exist independently and only when a man makes a big deal out of it people pay attention
At first I thought FIDE was in the right - rules have to be followed consistently. However, several other players violated the dress code without consequence - and Hikaru was given two rounds to change. It's clear they were trying to make an example of the highest profile player. They could have allowed him to play the next round and change for the following day, but instead they chose this.
@@acelamp4367 Now watch them lose all the viewership lmao for those decisions, Magnus couldnt care less but people pay to watch the goat not the others
No one could have put it better. I’m on Magnus’ side on this one - it’s not arrogance. He said he’ll change later. They should value a player’s focus for upcoming rounds instead of making them change jeans 🤦🏽♀️ this is some other agenda - corrupt arbiter, corrupt FIDE. Behaving like an insecure partner in light of freestyle championship announcement.
Oh you're on the side of the best chess player? How noble of you. Who cares that rules like this have been used to exclude players based on sex and money. It's more important that you're on the side of the "good" millionaire. The same one that falsely accused a kid of cheating. And then saying the F word, woaw, how brave of him. I remember when Levy was talking down to Hans saying that behavior like this isn't accepted or tolerated by civilized society. How quiet he was when Magnus said it.
@@Axiomatic75 if it was perfect, Magnus would just deny and ignore, and no arbiter would be able to enforce the law upon him because Magnus would threaten to pull funding
Magnus doesn't give a shit about the game. If he did, he'd keep playing classical, or do anything to promote it, like the Indian GMs do. Instead he built a shitty app (that I assume has a paid version or at least sells your data) and hired a blonde that knows nothing about chess. Oh and let's not forget when he accused a teenager of cheating without any proof. Funny how Levy told Niemann "don't act like this" while Magnus is literally swearing them out on love tv. Will Levy have the balls to tell Magnus not to talk like that???? I'll suck his dick if he does 😂. Man, Hans must be rolling on the floor laughing right now
Magnus looks perfectly fine! He's wearing a jacket that matches his jeans, striking the perfect smart-casual balance. What's wrong with that? I have no words for FIDE-it's time to remove the President of FIDE immediately! Their actions are utterly nonsensical, and someone must take responsibility!
This doesn't even make sense, being late of course you could be given a warning. But being kicked out just because he didn't dress a certain way, he seemed just tired of it all. He's a world champion and the highest rated, he deserves some respect. Nobody would watch chess if it wasn't for Magnus anyways
@@cyth1054 Sorry, but the greats are accorded a different set of rules. Michael Jordan wasn't treated like the rest of the Chicago Bulls because you don't piss off the people that are indispensable. Magnus is indispensable.
@@cyth1054 so he got fined for it and took it. That's not being treated differently, so this little boot licking "oh what about the rules" routine is dumb. What happens when the rules are stupid and pointless? FIDE and Magnus are in a power struggle and war and they both are not backing down. If they were on good terms Magnus would have just taken and paid the fine or just changed, but there is already tension so the jeans turns into more than it really is.
Levy beats Magnus ❌
Levi's beats Magnus ✅
Lol well done 👏
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Levy beats to magnus
@ real 😭
Lil Wayne here😂
I looked away for an hour and this happens.
FOR REAL
Well yeah, that's on you for not watching in real time.
I went to help my neighbor and the chess world crumbled
@@Taramushi same wtf
I got in the shower and came out to the news on twitter 😂
1:09 "First of all, I got a fine which is fine."
The fine was 200 dollars
@bivasbisht1244 I know, I was pointing to the pun.
they can do that? It is a chess tournament, FIDE isn't a governamental association to apply fines, are they?
@@UsuarioOpinativokkas long as there are rules that were signed , they have all the control on the events including fines
@@MrLatarianMilton It makes sense
As an old man, I have seen the 3 best players in my lifetime walk away from FIDE, Bobby, Gary, and Magnus. :(
Let's hope the others don't go crazy.
The fine line between genius and insanity….
Best 3 players of ALL time lol
@ Morphy and Fischer crossed that line.
@@Wargasm54 at some point maybe we should be asking ourselves if FIDE is the crazy one
Carlson has reached IDGAF stage of life.
Reached that stage when he stopped playing for classical World Champ.
@@elasmojones pretty much when he said "only if it's someone like Alireza"
He is becoming closer to Fisher day-by-day.
He has nothing to lose, he has everything a chess player could ever imagine. FIDE as an organization on the other hand have everything to lose, they overestimated their influence, especially by threatening top players over not participating in the freestyle chess tournament (which Magnus reportedly poured in more than 10m $ into) and with this last act it reached a breaking point.
FIDE is delusional if they think they can antagonize the GOAT to such an extent. It is FIDE itself that will change as a result of this.
Way more famous, accomplished and powerful people than Magnus like Nadal, Federer, Djokovic never broke the White dress code of Wimbledon. Either way, goodbye Magnus 😂😂
He's dressed in casual business attire. FIDE needs to update its rules. I've worked in a few corporate jobs and many people wear similar to what he's wearing, and it certainly looks professional.
and look how nice the jeans and jacket are too. very niice expensive attire. and still FIDE wants to fine him??
Con artists, pretenders, and the most untrustworthy people usually wear the finest clothes that some people associate with professionalism.
Jeans-Gambit Declined Variation 😂👖🚫
best comment so far
Congrats, you won the internet for the day. That was perfect.
Yo thats a GrandComment
lol nicely done
lol Winner ❤
"fine, I'm out. fuck you" is the greatest start to a villain arc ever
Unfortunately Levy doesn't have the balls to tell Magnus what he told Hans (after Magnus falsely accused Hans of cheating) that you won't get far in life if you talk like that to people. Hans probably fell out of his chair laughing when he heard it 😂
@@assaqwwq wht has Hans achieved?
He plays well but where r his medals
He has a lot of unjustified ego😂
@assaqwwq I see why you with your low character idolize one of the few people who have successfully cheated in offline events and openly cheated online
@@assaqwwq comparing hans with magnus is the dumbest thing of the year . Magnus is the face of chess and hans ain't shi**
@@anuraghere-fehso someone's opinion is only valid if they are number 1. Okay, good to know your opinion doesn't matter 😂 talking like those billionaire simps "Elon is rich therefore smart"
I really hope chess players just start migrating to freedom format and all other kinds of variants. All my support for Magnus and his future projects.
Freestyle chess only for elitists, casual players will always prefer normal chess
@@DrMike005 That's kind of odd, no? As a casual player, one of the main advantages other players will have over you is remembering various lines of an opening, which is pretty much made useless in the freestyle format. Now I'm not saying that casual players would even care about the disadvantages they have as a player in the first place, but if you were new to chess and didn't want to deal with such a disadvantage then I think freestyle would appeal to these players much more.
EVERYONE needs to show up in jeans tomorrow.
Now that a man suffered from an ancient rule that has kept women and poor s out of chess, you suddenly care? 😂😂😂 What a great guy you are 😂😂😂 EVERYONE LOOK, HE CARES NOW. It's okay, you'll forget by tomorrow
@@assaqwwq How does formal/business wear keeps women out of chess? You do realize that there are suits for women as well, right? Also, dresses are a thing
@@assaqwwq You're telling me that in today's world, a woman can't wear a suit and men's clothing? Even if they don't allow dresses, it's clothing that doesn't change with gender.
That would be a big statement
@@assaqwwqshut up. That’s the worst take ever, everyone should be able to wear jeans
fide being like "you can't wear jeans & a sweater otherwise it makes chess look unprofessional" whilst running the most incompetant chess tournament imaginable ...
Chess players haven't looked professional in ages. If they're really worried about the image of the game get rid of the nascar-esque branded jackets, if not then don't cry about small problems.
@@lukasg4807 - Magnus should wear orange, Tide pants to the next FIDE event.
This rule was implemented since or for this world rapid and blitz. Sweater is allowed it is written in the rule.
@@HemBabuKarki-ue6tn wtf does what you're wearing matter to the peices on the table? thats not chess, thats dumb burocracy and a dictatorship mentality
@@Whelmed. He'll never play another FIDE event again.
So I just looked up the FIDE dress code and this seems weird. In section 3 it says jeans are acceptable. But in section four it says they are not for Winners in award ceremonies. Seeing as this is not an award ceremony it doesnt seem like the no jeans rule should apply. There might be somewhere else where it specifically states the higher dresscode for high profile games or champion players or whatever, but from the easily accessible FIDE dress code PDF it deosnt seem like Magnus was in violation. Which means its actually completely reasonable for him to not know he wasnt supposed to wear jeans. If he did break a rule its not nearly as clear cut as it would seem. And if he did since its a technicality on dresscode he could reasonably not be aware of bringing the hammer down on it doesnt feel right.
He was already performing worse than he would like and he didnt want to go to his hotel and back for a pair of pants and mess with his flow. You can say he should've sucked it up and done it anyway, but seeing as he's been getting fed up with FIDE in general recently he decided to crash out instead. Regardless of what you think of Magnus' choice here I think this was not the time for FIDE to be stringent about dresscode technicalities. Also according to Nepo many, many players had similar slight violations of dresscode, so from an event perspective, maybe send out some kind of memo to all teams and players reminding them of the rules and that they will be strictly enforced the next day instead of deciding its top priority for certain players part way through one day. Just spitballing but I think that would be a better approach. Since he was far from the only one in violation that really makes me think this wasnt clearly communicated from the outset.
Very reasonable take. I would also suggest that since many players will have travelled to take part in the tournament they are unlikely to have been able to bring a large wardrobe of clothes with them and so it is really incumbent on FIDE to make the dress code very clear well ahead of time.
I don't know all the details of this situation and so far I have only heard Magnus' side of the story but it does appear to be a rather petty and churlish enforcement of the rules by FIDE.
They showed the (very unprofessional looking) slide for World Championship events, and it had "jeans" with a big red stamp that said "NOT ALLOWED" and "Jeans are not widely accepted to be formal attire" - which frankly just is not true in 2024.
If the jeans were a problem, they should have been a problem before game 1. Just let chess players arrive an hour in advance for inspection of the dress code. Also dress codes are such an ancient concept.
@@xCupressocyparis The dress codes are clear but Magnus made a mistake by not wearing the correct pants because he was in a hurry. Everyone has the proper clothes in the world championship and they know very well what to wear in a chess tournament.
@r0260064 I don't mind the dress codes as a concept. Imagine if everyone was wearing advertisements on their clothes like in other sports
well, ok? but 1. whats the time difference between putting on jeans or pants 2. he could change after people point it it out. he is just fucking arrogant 😂
why do people always find excuses to feed his ego. he is not a newbie anyway. he should know best.
Magnus to FIDE "I don't need you, you need me. Good bye."
@Toofer69 Kasparov thought he could do this too...
And this is the truth
@@shadowside8433 difference here is that he has built (or helped build) the champions chess tour which draws much more viewership.
@@ahmedhend9207what is magnus outside chess world? Nothing
Yes he could - And he did !@@shadowside8433
Events like this should be selling the game as young and exciting not telling the world that if your clothes aren’t fuddy duddy enough you’re not wanted.
So true, it's one thing showing up in your underwear, any restrictions above this (within reason) is just over stepping what they actually are, a game of chess... People say Magnus has ego, but "Chess" has ego problem, FIDE is out of touch and it will be a good day when they realise they're just a name and nothing more.
Exactly ... pretentious snobbery at its worst ... I'm glad he refused to bow down
@@andrewearth469 if they're nothing more, than they would have already been replaced? Plenty other "names" out there. They just don't have the credibility or global network of fide... that's the problem.
@@andrewearth469 Wouldnt be too outrageous if (showing up in your, u******r) were implemented in the non-male section of the tournament, just saying.
Disagree, I think it's a prestigious game with a classy culture and that's good.
I don't think we should be applauding a guy who can't show up on time or adhere to KNOWN dress codes just because he's really good at chess.
Magnus had reportedly completed 3 of the 4 rounds scheduled for the day and instead of being notified that he'd need to be in compliance with said dress code for the beginning of the next days rounds, he's instructed like a school boy that he must go home and change clothes immediately; this doesn't seem reasonable; Magnus is easily the greatest ambassador (many would also say the greatest player) the game of Chess has ever had, and a tiny bit of leniency would have been wiser.
He wasn't asked to change "immediately". He was given time up until round 9. Magnus should be a great ambassador for the sport but with that kind of behaviour (not complying to rules he accepted ahead of the tournament), he is not.
@@coolcat23There wasn’t much time between round 8 and round 9. It means he «immediately» have to find a new pair of pants before the next game starts.
And FIDE sacrifece... THE GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again... (Fisher, Gary)
lmao
He made just half the points. What you mean the GOAT?
@@BbjjutgghjhgfMagnus could literally retire rn and he would still be the goat.
@@EhtesamUddinPrince what makes him the goat? He is not the one with the most world championships. His elo? One day someone will achieve 2900 and everybody will forget magnus. He will be just one of the many world champions in chess
FIDE: You need to change your jeans!
Magnus: I missed the part where that’s my problem 💀
All the drama makes it feel like he showed up in a full Grinch costume smoking a cigar while playing
But you did not complain about the rules when signing up for the tournament, so why now
Magnus mostly missed the part where changing was possible.
@@DrMike005
The rules do not state the punishment if I'm not mistaken. Banning for even a game is way out of line for this. A fine for a couple of hundred bucks would be sufficient.
And there have been many players with jeans who weren't harrased. Probably because they weren't televised. But if you throw out the goat because of a rule you better make sure that it is generally applied.
Great. I hate when someone tells me that I have to do something now when I said that I'm going to do it another time anyway.
Levy - 4:36 “that’s my TH-cam recap revenue for this tournament gone 😔” 😂
he just seems so sick of it all xD I have a feeling we aren't going to see him in any more FIDE events
On NRK (a norwegian television program), He stated he probably won't participate in any other FIDE event if FIDE keeps on behaving like this.
Hopefully now that it happened to a man, all those years of women being attacked and heckled for this exact reason will finally be over
Armenian Grandmaster Andriasian was wearing jeans.
Acquitted in the jury room in the same case as Carlsen: - not jeans
From VG look for:
Frikjent på juryrommet i samme sak som Carlsen: - Ikke olabukse
Depending on how many top players will boycott the events, it could end up real bad for FIDE.
Understandable if FIDE is anything like the EU, the WHO, The WEF, the UN, and NAT0 which one may easily believe it all is linked.
He wasn't kicked out, he left. He doesn't need FIDE, FIDE needs him. He's in a position where he can call out these outrageous rules.
He has 0% chance to win after not getting a pairing, it was effectively a DQ
He did intentionally too embarssed to not even be close to top 20 after all these rounds
@@RedvinezYGO Nah it didn't matter that much to him. 17 gold medals, 34 years old with a future wife.
And it's just a coincidence that this happened when he was having a bad tournament, right?
He’s a brat. Nobody needs one. The FIDE has no need for him.
Who’s the psychopath that kicks out someone from a tournament because he is wearing blue jeans instead of another type of trousers? What’s the problem that prevents him from competing?
What’s chess got to do with this nonsense? All top players should take a strong stance on this
Who is the psychopath who agrees to the tournament rules by participating then violates the rules, is given the chance to comply within a reasonable timeframe, but then decides to throw the towel instead of complying like everyone else? If he had an issue with the dress code, he should have spoken up when it was released and feedback was sought for. He could have still uttered his concerns ahead of the tournament, or while complying. This isn't about jeans, this is more likely about Carlsen's poor performance (for his standards) in this tournament and the fact that he is financially involved in a non-FIDE event and begrudges FIDE for not lying down when random organisations claim they are organising "world championship" events. There is a mature way to resolve differences and Magnus did not choose it.
Just one question. Would Magnus have walked out if he was at the top of the table?
The 2 replies are where its at. Bravo you 2 👏
@@coolcat23 He said he would change them tomorrow after finishing the last game. He took the fine, he clearly had no issues with the rule existing and just made a mistake. What is insane is going beyond a fine and requiring the player to go change between games when they should be preparing for the next game.
Magnus's chances at the tournament were still completely fine. It wouldn't have been the easiest win ever by any means but he has played and won worse without causing a problem. FIDE is the one who decided to escalate from a fine to ending Magnus's tournament run.
Additionally, why should FIDE hold the exclusive rights to the words "world championship"? Clearly they hold those rights for the "World Chess Championship" and the "World Rapid and Blitz Chess Championship", but they have no reason to cause problems for the "Freestyle Chess World Championship" which does not use their branding or the names associated with FIDE nor runs in a format FIDE officially governs in chess. If someone decided to start another random tournament and called it the "World Chess Championship" then absolutely FIDE would be within their right as governing body to take issue with that, as they run the world classical chess championship. But they do not run a freestyle chess world championship, and therefore have no right to govern that tournament and the naming conventions of it.
@@bhuvaneshwarivenkataraman7815 Probably, and it baffles me how biased you must be against magnus to claim otherwise.
Imagine losing the GOAT over denim
The GOAT that was underperforming so much that he had to do something, so people would talk about him anyways.
@@Midaspleveryone has bad days!...he has nothing to prove.....ask Gukesh to play blitz and rapid and get a win against top players!...gukesh is a beast in classical but magnus has proven himself with lots of tournaments winning one another in all formats
@@miqdaddon5682he started winning only after he was 23. By 23 , gukesh will have few of them.
@@Midaspl And still, the GOAT. He suggested coming to next day with the correct clothing. No adults in the building? It was only two games left.
@@MidasplBruh, the man has won like 13 tournaments this year alone. Isn't it literally the GOAT when you've won that many games and people still slander you when you underperform in a 1 tournament?
Bro he doesn''t give a SINGLE fuck. I admire it.
But when women dgaf they get dragged through the mud and spat out. You should admire it from people that actually have something to lose, like that Iranian climber that didn't climb with a burka on and got kidnapped at the airport by her own government. Bet you didn't know that happened 😊
If he really gives no fuck he wouldn't be throwing microphones around.
Funny that you admire the one guy that has nothing to lose. What about all the women that had to wear high heels to a chess game. Imagine someone forced you to wear high heels. But suuuure, admire how the best chess player said FU to organisers in Levy's face while Levy scolded Hans for the same behavior. But Levy doesn't have the balls to tell Magnus how to talk 😂😂 you phonies... When a rich powerful man says something 🍆🍆🍆🍆 when an Iranian climber goes on stage without her burka and gets kidnapped at the airport by her government 🦗🦗🦗🦗
ehh, he gave at least one!
I’m not even a Magnus fan but, bravo.
FIDE managers are dumb. Jeans are established all over the world, its casual and business casual as well (i had jeans my whole working life) and a chess tournament is not a dress competition. Chess can easily exist without FIDE, but FIDE cannot exist without Chess players. Think, FIDE!
What should've happened.
Arbiter - ''Excuse me Mr Carlsen, I have noticed you are wearing jeans which is against the dress code for this event. I'm afraid you will have to pay a $200 fine and change into the appropriate attire.''
Magnus - ''Oh sorry I wasn't thinking and was in a rush. I am happy to pay the fine however I need to get ready for the next round. I will make sure I am in the correct attire tomorrow.''
Arbiter - ''The rules state you must be in the appropriate attire to play but given the situation I will allow you to finish the day. I hope you can be more careful in the future as we are trying to hold this tournament to the highest standards. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.''
Magnus - ''Thank you I appreciate it.''
What actually happened.
Arbiter - ''Excuse me Mr Carlsen, I have noticed you are wearing jeans which is against the dress code for this event. I'm afraid you will have to pay a $200 fine and change into the appropriate attire.''
Magnus - ''Oh sorry I wasn't thinking and was in a rush. I am happy to pay the fine however I need to get ready for the next round. I will make sure I am in the correct attire tomorrow.''
Arbiter - ''No i'm afraid that's not acceptable. You need to change immediately or you will not be paired for the next round and will forfeit all matches until you change.''
Magnus - ''That's fine. F U.''
According to Magnus they didn't say he had to change immediately. I think he said that in the interview.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus that threat " else you wont be paired for next round " must have pissed him .... They could have chosen the right words atleast while talking with THE GOAT ....
except they let him play the round and change his jeans right after, which he refused. Turns out Magnus wanted a way out after his piss poor performance the first day
@@19shirishso GOATs are bigger than chess itself? Celebrity worshipping is at peak now...
@@Catalyst-rwhere did he write that GOAT is bigger that chess? Did he edit his comment or did you make this up?
There is NOTHING WRONG with that outfit. It looks professional. CEOs come to board meetings in tank tops and shorts.
Rules are rules for everyone
@@143priyanshusherawat8rules are rules for everyone unless they are fucking stupid.
100%, I feel like living in a simulation that this happened.
@@143priyanshusherawat8 Are you actually pretending that FIDE routinely applies the rules accurately and across the board, AND thats what happened here?
Because thats an argument that falls apart almost immediately. FIDE never applies their rules consistently and to everyone.
Edit: Nepo quoted today, "If FIDE wanted to, they could dress code 40 players right now in the hall." So i assume Nepo's just lying right?
It wouldn't be acceptable in any professional environment I've worked in. 🤷♀
So much respect for this. Institutions that are way behind the times should pull back with the level of arrogance they treat their breadwinners. Don't bite the hand that feeds.
FIDE is already salty about Magnus not playing the WCC, and also getting behind the new Freestyle Chess Championship.
pretty much sums it up
There's nothing like that, rules are rules, anyone would be warned
Lol no one is above rules
@@Jcy23 not for Magnus and his blind fans, as it is Magnus, the chess world must bend to his whims!
Exactly. He got away so easily with the Hans drama as well. Couldn't prove shit in that OTB game.
Should have shown the clip of Nepo saying to Levy that you could probably go dress code 40 other players down in the playing hall. But with the higher ranking/ more popular players theyre seen as easier targets.
Have*
@willrfrench English isn't my first language sorry, I'm French Canadian, thankyou for the correction. Did I still have a good point though?
@@B00B13S_L0Lyes. Ironic too the person who replied had French in their handle lol
@@B00B13S_L0L no apology necessary. I think this whole situation is being blown waaaay out of proportion. Jeans should not get you DQ’d. Magnus called their bluff.
Respect earned. Normally when people get corrected they become toxic(even though they do it gently)@@B00B13S_L0L
Please start a new world federation with its own World Championship.
Without Chess players, FIDE would be nothing.
Players. Plural. As near I can tell Carlsen is a great player, but not ALL of them, contrary to the way tournaments are covered these days…. If he was ahead he would’ve gone and changed, 100%…. As for FIDE they’ve been a long while, and will be long after Carlsen. No ONE athlete is a bigger than an entire sport, in any sport. And ALL sports have dress codes.
Without all these organisations, chess players will just be playing under trees. World No1 cannot follow rules!
@@carlkligerman1981 Stole my comment from the chess24 stream. Nice bro... at least give credit goober
@@carlkligerman1981FIDE is also no infallible. Other chess organization exist and multiple PR failures, like this one, pushes FIDE ever so closer to being taken over by another willing to take its spot.
And if you disagree with me about this incident being bad for FIDE, thats fine, but im willing to bet that many players and spectators would agree that the game comes first, not a dress code.
@@carlkligerman1981 Similarly to your argument, FIDE is not "the chess". There is no rule in chess (game) that prohibits you to wear jeans. Them forcing players to either choose FIDE or Freestyle chess is already going past their boundries. Next thing you know they will prohibit you to play chess at home with your friends :). Everything comes from people and popularity, if people are not enjoying things you do they will not watch you no matter how long of a history you have (plenty of giant organisations have gone bankrupt in the past). FIDE enforcing this rules is basically trying to cling on their powers even though their power comes from nothinig but people. Eventually it is gonna lead to their downfall (mark my words).
Now I know why Richard Rapport didn't compete
This
Donut shorts are allowed. Only blue jeans are banned
Why?
@@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145 Last seen wearing donut boxer shorts and a T shirt, accompanying Ding.
😂😂😂😂 are shorts allowed?
you should try microphone audio technica at2020, i have that for a very long time and the sound is simply incredible, Magnus will appreciate probably
one day its gonna get to a point where these players realize they don't need fide anymore
4:15 The way he threw his mic tells all about it
That's quite immature, ronaldo 'esque'
Well he is the goat so he kinda has the right to do whatever he wants
@@martinradkov5339 Love magnus but how has being the goat give one right to indecency? A bit Illogical ain't it mate?
No, the way he sits on the sofa tells all about it. This is a laughable crybaby, a spoiled brat that never got spanked.
I thought he threw the mic across the room by the way you guys spoke about it. It was a mic drop. Can’t say I’d have the same bad etiquette though, but he wins 🤷🏾♂️
FIDE needs Magnus, Magnus doesn’t need FIDE. The sooner they realize that, the better.
0:13 The fucking irony of the ribbon of ID card Magnus is wearing says 'Freedom'. 😂😂
Freedom does not mean you voilate rules and discipline on an event.
Happy that he is kicked out.
@@MeetRThe just wore the wrong pants and you are treating him like a criminal😂
@automatnasusenky7952what's wrong with jeans bro that's completely bullshit
@automatnasusenky7952 should have read the rule book before signing up for a event
Lmao the rule dorks have arrived
IM THE HALL MONITOR BETTER RESPECT ME@@DrMike005
I think it's a mix of Magnus being irritated he's not playing a very good tournament + the organizers telling him to change before the next game. Like.. okay you fined him, and okay make sure you change tomorrow, but between games? That's just petty. I think they're bitter because he's promoting chess960.
Of course. Hes already on edge because hes not performing up to his standard
Chess960 is better than normal chess anyway 😂
Honestly, though, he was on 5/8. 2 wins in the next round would have propelled him to top spot! He was not that far behind and Carlsen has done it before many times over. He starts slow in most tournaments.
@@reinhardfranzwehringer7803That's kind of mindset horrible for chess..
Yes Hunter, that and that Magnus was already bitter about the not-fully-public moves they tried to pull against him and chess960.
Good for Magnus! For anyone in FIDE to make an issue of dress code in middle of a tournament and mess with the mental state of the best player in the world, it speaks to more serious issues and it takes someone exactly like Magnus to stand his ground and force a correction in attitude.
Everyone should show up in jeans to protest.
FIDE has to kick everyone, but then no tournament left lmao
@donkbonktj5773legitimize the WCC
@donkbonktj5773 That’s the point of the protest lol
Why didn't you say that every time a woman got penalized for not being sexy enough to play chess? I guess keeping women and poor people down isn't newsworthy enough for you 😂😂
Magnus was not doing well in the tournament. He was finding excuses to throw his tantrum like a small child. So, he decided to not observe the dress code. You guys are so stupid to support a child's tantrum just because he is the best-rated player.
Teach Magnus a life lesson.
FIDE's selfsabotaging is always very entertaining to watch
fr they're just smoking more and more
@donkbonktj5773players knew the rules
Do u guys have a brain? They have a rule not goingbwith jeans. Rules are meant to be applied. Magnus was quitting cuz he wasn't going to win the event
@@BenOri-vg8le Were you the student who reminded the teacher of homework?
Fide: take off those jeans
Magnus: I'm the one who knocks
FIDE does not own the game. They are only the custodians of the game. This is not a dictatorship regime that they would impose unreasonable absurd rules.
People pretending a dress code is a human rights violation. Name a sport without a dress code. Go.
@@alumpy-acho112 Its chess a dress code for a chess game is so stupid
@@alumpy-acho112 It's chess not a physical sport. Many brilliant chess players, even kids, that come from places that are not well off so expecting them to have grandiose clothing is ridiculous.
If Carlsen was on top of the leader board he would’ve bolted to his room and changed. This is getting stupid, the guy only likes competitions he wins!
@@alumpy-acho112 The difference is the discretion of enforcement. The NFL, which has far more reasons such as safety to enforce a dress code, even knows to use discretion and won't pull players off the field for stuff like sock policy violations (see Tyreek Hill as an example who has been fined 6 times.) They should have stuck with a fine and warned him that if he came back the next day with the same pants, then he would be DQ'd. That would have solved this issue and been far better for everyone, but the arbiter had an ego
The biggest without a doubt. Just to be precise, Magnus was not even badly dressed, and initially he did not refuse to respect the rule, he only asked to be given the opportunity to correct his clothing the next day. However, since they have no judgment, they decided to pursue him and insist until they provoke him... be careful, the threats to players who dare to play free style chess are true. Great Magnus, you have to say it and you said it.
Rulea are meant to be adhered to. Its not open to interpretation. Soon you will have all games like the super chess events flashy headphones ..except for the commentators hysteria I find those events extremely gimmicky
The rules are very clear though. Magnus is just crashing out because he played a terrible tournament for his standards.
@@ron2473what a joke
There are rules and there are rules. Like who tf actually cares if Magnus was wearing jeans. In what universe does that hurt anyone? Being a human being is more important than adhering to a meaningless rule.
@@alexweitz Human beings can follow rules. Shit, human beings invented rules.
imagine a man who remembers an infinite number of moves in chess but he doesn't remember if he changed his clothes before the first or second game
FIDE has the right to set and enforce a dress code - but to handle it this way just shows how petty and ridiculous they are. Good for Magnus.
Yea, the rules do not say you need to kick a player out and his dressing was not shabby, destroying for any sponsors or anything like that, you also need to udnerstand why the rules where made.... Magnus did not put shame on the sport, his jeans matched his shirt and jacket... This made no sence at all.
Nah magnus was just b**hurt that he wasn't going to win the event
Brilliant move by Magnus. Now the tournament will be remembered for his being kicked out not for his performance.
Very true! Masterful use of the Jeans-gambit
Yes. Just like the Sinquefield Cup he withdrew from.
@@RarewareLover🤣👍
a true 100000 iq
Magnus is always a couple moves ahead of his opponents
FIDE has made a terrible mistake
Magnus in his Jeans is still overdressed for any FIDE shit.
"im tired boss"
Fide forgets thats people started following chess recently not because them but because people like magnus, gotham, botez, hikaru, etc that created content that we people enjoy across multiple media, if they mess with the player we care, then they will lose the battle, we are in 2024. Forcing magnus to wear a specific attaire to make a statements is simple BS.
The only thing fide tells peoples with this is that only penguins can play..
It gives the exact same vibes as (as Carlin said): "Its a big club, and you ain't in it".
queens gambit by netflix and pandemic was the starting point, then streamer came in and developed the hype further
I respect the decision. FIDE is being unreasonable in their expectations. Punishing someone for wearing jeans is ridiculous.
No they aren't he just thinks he's above the rules everyone else has to follow cringe
@@gredax the rule is CRİNGE its fucking 2024
@@arjin1935 exactly. FIDE is just being petty
@@gredaxthe rule is just stupid.
@@gredaxokay I totally agree he didn’t follow the rule but isn’t it weird to change between rounds? Can he make it to the game in time? And also why no jeans? I didn’t get it also nepo was fined for the white sweater
Really weird
I work in CORPORATE ACCOUNTING which you can imagine has some pretty strict restrictions on attire. Jeans, as long as it’s paired nicely with something like a shirt and a jacket, is perfectly fine. Doing this for a chess tournament is so utterly ridiculous… FIDE needs to be abolished or massively reformed ASAP!!!
or step into 2024
They really don’t get it do they?!?! LOL It’s easy to see why Chess isn’t as popular as it should be
My family sells formal clothes in Italy since 1922, nowadays it's perfectly formal for us to sell jacket+jeans even for some weddings.
Wow, "CORPORATE ACCOUNTING". Since they're "pretty strict" on attire, what happens when you break the rules of attire?
Should’ve shown his disagreements before signing up for the tournament. If someone signs up, they agree to ‘the conditions’
Correction: he wasn't kicked out, he decided not to play anymore.
you sound like FIDE spokesperson. FU
Because he was paying bad already so there's that
Aaand... mic drop. 4:15
Its gonna be a field day!
"Welcome back everyone for todaaaay's video" 😆
Levy went from nice TH-cam videos in the comfort of his own home , to hard hitting interviews asking the questions nobody else wants to 💪
Discretion (fine him) would have solved this amicably and been good for the game. Instead, the arbiter chose the heavy handed ego approach to enforce the rule with no discretion which will do nothing but harm the tournament, sponsors, FIDE, and chess as a whole. The NFL and better organizations don't pull players like Tyreek Hill off the field for sock policy violations, they slap them with a fine because they know the fans care more about the players than the organization and they know what is important.
so you think a $200 fine will make him learn. He's GOAT but an arrogant person. He was warned before the march and he chose not to correct his mistake. Had this been the case with any other player this channel wouldn't be making such a big deal out of this!
Also he was disqualified to play the last round and he decided to pull out of the tournament. I don't think FIDE is at fault in this case.
@@deadpool8580 He already admitted he was wrong and that he would change his clothes for the next day. Why the need to ruin his tournament when he's already down in points by giving him a forfeit for the 9th round? Just stupid ego from the arbiters.
@@deadpool8580 Losing a round as a forfeit when you're already 2 points from the leader and only 5 rounds left is basically making it impossible for him to even make it top 3. Why waste his time?
@@HusaynMirrules are rules for everyone. Even after getting warned you still don’t change ,then it’s your fault . It happens in all games not only chess .
Well done FIDE, you lived up to our expectations. Thanks for the DRAMA.
Good for him. Fuck the people that think it matters what the worlds best chess player wears. Enough snobbery and more play. To think they are going to distract him with fines and forcing to change mid-day when he is already in his mental temple is crazy. Let him be until the day end and talk to him about it then, if ever.
According to the dress code, fine for the first infringement (round 7 if I had to take a guess), 2nd infringement for round 8 which means disqualification for the next round. Seems like they did what they announced. However, dress code also applies to officials and other players, and they seem to have been much more lazy there. The double standards are much more of the issue imho
But why are jeans a problem during games? (See fide dress code section 3 a) 🤯
@@SteffiHammerich wow I just looked it up. Jeans are allowed. So it was not reasonable to expect a player not to come in jeans, he was following the written dress code. There is officially no excuse for this, he would probably win an appeal but doesn't care enough anymore.
@@SteffiHammerich I mean I guess in section 4 it says no jeans for winners, but I don't think he was necessarily in the winners category yet? I'm not quite sure how that's distinguished. Either way since it's a two tiered system of dress code, him wanting to dress to the higher standard for the next, bigger day seems pretty reasonable.
A fine is more than sufficient punishment for not following a dress code. Tbh even a one-day warning would do. He said he would fix the issue the next day so that should have been that. This is going to be much more damaging to FIDE than it is to Magnus
What’s weird to me is that in the FIDE dress code it’s explicitly stated that Jeans are allowed, only torn Jeans are forbidden. Now, Magnus‘ jeans seem perfectly fine and not torn to me. Am I missing something? Was the dress code updated for this tournament?
This is the magnus revenge arc
revenge? he's acting like a spoilt brat throwing his toys out the pram
@@gredaxCan it. He's the one who people want to see. FIDE's nothing without Magnus but an overreaching dictatorship that nobody elected.
@@gredaxI think magnus said it best himself. “F___ you.”
@gredax actually FIDE is... they're just looking for any excuse to throw Magnus out asap they hate him for boycotting their WC giving it a bad rep and verbally opposing them in general. Otherwise they would be reasonable and either provide him a pair of slacks to change into that day or allow him to come back in proper attire the next day.
Wait, what is the problem with jeans again?
Im guessing it doesnt look good with a dress shirt and suit?
@cris-yo1950 who cares how it looks?? Is what I would have said before I learnt about the clear dress code policy for the event. Still a pretty extreme measure on something that should've been resolved with a fine in my opinion
@@sarangtamoi7820In every other sport there is a dress code too, imagine Ronaldo wearing Jeans in WC? That would be freaky
I for one will NOT be watching any FIDE events henceforth, due to the way they dealt with this, try getting sponsors now
be sure to let all sponsors know you won't be watching so they can adjust
Why are jeans not allowed ? Jeans are considered to be business casual in most workplace.
because fide
Apparently Steve Jobs was extremely unprofessional and insulting wearing jeans all the time.
Because of some dress code bull
because the french suck thats why
@@marko6489Steve Jobs was the owner and Steve Jobs would do whatever Steve Jobs wants.
Another example of a corporation ruining sport or art. I'm with Magnus on this and not because he is Magnus but because all my life I try and follow common sense:
1.) people watching chess want to see good chess in the first place, dress code is the last of our worries
2.) rules should be the same for everyone- either everyone with jeans allowed to play, or allowed not to play (which didn't happen)
3.) the dress code rule is there to uphold a certain standard of formality and class-
a) nice jeans of grey or black colour are in many places considerered a formal attire nowadays &
b) this ruckus caused exactly the opposite of what the rule is there for, the event is now laughable
4.) the rules enforcements should be scaled properly as to the importance of the broken rule: a fine is completely acceptable for this minor offence, banning someone from play in case they broke it again is completely acceptable, but banning someone (let alone a defending champion) right away and thus ruining his chances at winning and many people's viewing experience, that is completely innacceptable.
5.) if FIDE really cares that much about suit trousers that they want them changed immediately, they should offer the players spare ones
Actually a few correction:
2.) Other players had to change clothes for example Nepo.
4.) He had been given multiple rounds to change the jeans for something else.
@@Ploeppsel 2.) the players on lower ranked boards were left as they were
4.) there's almost no time between rounds, certainly not to go to tailor's, he was basically given no chance
@@littleschnitzel8226 yo, can you link me to a source for this please? especially second point
@@atharvpal7038 Nepo apparently commented on this
Bold move by FIDE, they sacrifice the queen. Hope they have an endgame.😅
Well, the man said he would make the change tomorrow.
How do they expect him to make the change before such a crucial round?
Ridiculous behavior.
Like he cares about chess... That's why he stopped playing classical.. that's why he's selling apps while Vishy Anand is busy building up the next generation of GMs Magnus is busy calling kids cheaters and picking a fight with the organizers. What a pro, what a character, what a great human being 🤣🤣🤣
If fide is crying about plain jeans which cant be really seen during matches and not letting him play today change for tomorrow i can see why magnus did what he did . I dont think its ridiculous
@@assaqwwqstop crying man take take take is a good app + its his decision to do what he wants its doesn’t make him a bad human( because its not harmfull ofc) thats a very bad argument to say someone is bad
@@assaqwwq Vishy is nowhere near Magnus in chess, any one on Magnus' level knows that classical chess is just memorization.
Magnus didn't leave rapid and blitz because they don't require you to sit at the board and stress out for 6 hours.
Vishy didn't build the next generation of GMs, he wasted the lives of hundreds of children on chess.
@@assaqwwqare you trying to say that Magnus is now obliged to serve humanity otherwise he is a bad person? Teach kids, help poor, save oceans from plastic? Who are you to decide how someone must live their life? The divine arbiter?
This is really the kind of thing that makes both chess and golf feel snobby. Pageantry takes precedent over the actual game and it ruins it for everyone, just sad.
Nah MC did horrible this tournament and still found a way to make it all about himself. He knows how to manipulate the sheep.
@tomsoyer5639 the way he was playing and the way he reacted both have nothing to do with the rule being dumb in the first place. But sure man stay woke 😂
@@brendencooper5290 No one argues the rule isnt dumb, but there is a time and a place. Inbetween rounds isnt one of them. And yeah he knew the rules and decided to break them on purpose, when asked to change clothes he refused, on purpose obviously. And what has woke got to do with anything.
What a setback for the taketaketake project right after it's initiation.
I've not heard any top GM's have a lot of nice things to say about FIDE. It'd be cool if Naka and some other would say, if Magnus isn't playing, I'm not playing.
you joking right? That's their only chance to win this WC!
@@fidetrainer No one will be truly proud to win now
Magnus just did a Bobby Fischer
he has become one. next goal is to settle in russia.
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Ofc he is redpiled on the J...he was talking to mister no one with J surname. LEVY ROZMAN which clearly is a constructed individual. Sure he knows about them. He was even moking their surnames calling himself Dr.DrunkenSTEIN years ago.
I feel more like he did a Kasparov and literally said fuck Fide
I think it's the complete opposite. Magnus was too chill, he didn't want anything extra. Bro just wore jeans.
You deleted my comment about the microphone. Heroical! These are heroical times.
The jeans rule is stupid.
Once a penalty is applied, forcing a player to change between rounds is heavy handed, so unless the case is extreme, it’s stupid.
I’ve heard from a few places that there are other players wearing jeans or sporting dress code violations. One could argue that going after the top guy sets an example, but I would argue that if it’s a problem you should go after everyone, or no one.
On the back of the recent tension between Carlsen and FIDE regarding freestyle chess, this smacks of potential corruption, especially if the rule has been unequally enforced.
When a player of Magnus’ reputation walks away because of a “simple” rule enforcement, that could be because they are a diva, or because of a long standing policy of bullheaded corrupt crony bureaucratic decision making. I see it as mostly the latter.
Why not both. The guy who falsely accused Hans is definitely the biggest diva. But sexism and elitism exist independently and only when a man makes a big deal out of it people pay attention
At first I thought FIDE was in the right - rules have to be followed consistently. However, several other players violated the dress code without consequence - and Hikaru was given two rounds to change. It's clear they were trying to make an example of the highest profile player. They could have allowed him to play the next round and change for the following day, but instead they chose this.
Well they told him he had to change after the 1st/2nd round..and he was only disqualified after the 3rd round
@@acelamp4367 Now watch them lose all the viewership lmao for those decisions, Magnus couldnt care less but people pay to watch the goat not the others
What other players?
@@dan.m.8614 yeah like all the viewers watching carlens WC matches? oh wait it was like 20 people.
@@richardwalker3784 NRK (Norwegian TV) focused in on a kid with grey sweatpants for example, He was playing the tourney
“Take take take” off your jeans
- FIDE Arbiter
03:55 thank me later ☺️
Bro has officially entered the "I literally don't care" arc
Magnus didn't get 'KICKED OUT', he withdrew!
Fide are so salty about the fact that they are not able steal sponsorship commissions from other big tournaments like freestyle chess.
I respect Magnus principles over FIDEs principles.
What principles exactly? he didn't want to follow the rules because he thinks he's special?
@@gredax He IS special! But no one should be punished like that for wearing jeans!
@@gredaxofc he is speciall everyone knows that
@@chessgains8075 he isn't where rules apply.
He did this because he was going to lose poorly he needed a way out
Interviewer didn’t deserve that disrespect at the end
Magnus and Hikaru need to pull a Short and Kasparov and start their own Professional Chess organization
kinda what they're doing with the freestyle chess tour plus the cct leading to the esports world cup thing.
@@namne11 yup
No one could have put it better. I’m on Magnus’ side on this one - it’s not arrogance. He said he’ll change later. They should value a player’s focus for upcoming rounds instead of making them change jeans 🤦🏽♀️ this is some other agenda - corrupt arbiter, corrupt FIDE. Behaving like an insecure partner in light of freestyle championship announcement.
Oh you're on the side of the best chess player? How noble of you. Who cares that rules like this have been used to exclude players based on sex and money. It's more important that you're on the side of the "good" millionaire. The same one that falsely accused a kid of cheating. And then saying the F word, woaw, how brave of him. I remember when Levy was talking down to Hans saying that behavior like this isn't accepted or tolerated by civilized society. How quiet he was when Magnus said it.
No jeans is a ridiculous rule.
FIDE is to Magnus what International Law is to the USA.
No. America should respect international law.
Good one. But if the analogy was perfect, Magnus would've murdered the arbiter and a bunch of player and walked away with impunity.
@@Axiomatic75 if it was perfect, Magnus would just deny and ignore, and no arbiter would be able to enforce the law upon him because Magnus would threaten to pull funding
2:50 he looked at us
Yess!
@@uhhhhhh3527 and he smirked for a split second
Simps 😂
@@uhhhhhh3527simps 😂😂
@@Animesh549 I am just saying he is breaking the fourth wall
Whenever there's a chess comptetition where Magnus is not competing, I kind of always think that the winner will always be a second to Magnus.
Please correct me if i am wrong, but isn't jeans allowed under section 3.a of the official FIDE Dress code Policy?
Yeah I’m confused by this too
Obviously not
Magnus basically telling Fide enough is enough, the game is bigger than that.
no he's telling them he's a spoilt brat and thinks he doesn't need to follow rules
@@gredaxbro stop replying to everybody already, what are you trying to prove jeeeeez
@@medewill1242 make me
@@gredax Yes, Magnus doesn't need to follow the rules. Magnus is above them!
Magnus doesn't give a shit about the game. If he did, he'd keep playing classical, or do anything to promote it, like the Indian GMs do. Instead he built a shitty app (that I assume has a paid version or at least sells your data) and hired a blonde that knows nothing about chess. Oh and let's not forget when he accused a teenager of cheating without any proof. Funny how Levy told Niemann "don't act like this" while Magnus is literally swearing them out on love tv. Will Levy have the balls to tell Magnus not to talk like that???? I'll suck his dick if he does 😂. Man, Hans must be rolling on the floor laughing right now
Magnus looks perfectly fine! He's wearing a jacket that matches his jeans, striking the perfect smart-casual balance. What's wrong with that? I have no words for FIDE-it's time to remove the President of FIDE immediately! Their actions are utterly nonsensical, and someone must take responsibility!
Dude wtf, people buy tickets and Magnus isn’t playing?!?!?
Yeah, FIDE sucks a lot
OMG people might actually get to see other players! Online too! And players in better form than the former champ! The HORROR *arrrgggghhhhhh* 😂
@@hortaserj how is fide to blame for HIM not wanting to follow rules, he sucks a lot
@@carlkligerman1981 Ahh Magnus the former champ in this event, couldn't have been more correct. Guess who's in Horror
meh, who cares about them? Maybe their mothers.
That is, ladies and gentlemen, Magnus Carlsen sacrificing his queen, and FIDE stupidly taking it!
December is going to be hard for Levy , Stay strong !
This doesn't even make sense, being late of course you could be given a warning. But being kicked out just because he didn't dress a certain way, he seemed just tired of it all. He's a world champion and the highest rated, he deserves some respect. Nobody would watch chess if it wasn't for Magnus anyways
rules is same for everyone.When u are treated differently in your workplace ..do u think others will accept it.
@@cyth1054 Sorry, but the greats are accorded a different set of rules. Michael Jordan wasn't treated like the rest of the Chicago Bulls because you don't piss off the people that are indispensable. Magnus is indispensable.
@@cyth1054 so he got fined for it and took it. That's not being treated differently, so this little boot licking "oh what about the rules" routine is dumb. What happens when the rules are stupid and pointless?
FIDE and Magnus are in a power struggle and war and they both are not backing down. If they were on good terms Magnus would have just taken and paid the fine or just changed, but there is already tension so the jeans turns into more than it really is.
Denim Gambit Accepted
And the game has been considered a draw.
Magnus can sacrifice QUEEN
Magnus Can't sacrifice JEANS
I support you Carlsen. Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
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