The Obi-Wan Kenobi show was not only horrendous, but when I watched Star Wars Theory interviewing Stuart Beattie and he talks about how the show was originally supposed to be a trilogy, and when he revealed what the original script was, it just makes me hate the show even more than I already did. The original script would've been 100xs better than what we ended up with. Typical Disney.
Bc Disney wanted to tell the story of Reva and Leia, but in order to garner any actual interest, they slap the Obiwan label on it. Boom increased viewership
If only they would have gone with it because we’d be talking about a well written and cool Obi-Wan trilogy of films instead of being disappointed with the show we got. He even managed to have an Obi-Wan and Vader fight with a conclusion that I would have been ok with (when I heard they were going to fight in the show, I thought it was a bad idea, and was proven right). Having them fight and Vader thinking he killed Obi-Wan is the only way it makes sense. A big part of Obi-Wan’s arc in the show was learning to accept he failed and who Anakin had become; an evil Sith. So him clearly defeating Vader again and letting him live straight up makes no sense. I’d rather be excited about a sequel to a cool Obi-Wan film. Instead I’m hearing talks of a season two for a show I’m not going to watch.
Thank you for picking up my question. I love how you are reminding, that fans are paying customers. Paying customers shall not be disregarded and shall not be blamed for bad product performance. Also - love news videos with Naboo. Factual. Relevant. Without unnecessary hype. Please do more.
I am reminded of a line from the movie Elizabeth: "You did not have the courage to be loyal". Disney did not have the courage to stay loyal to the vision of George Lucas. That's all that matters.
I still think Star Wars can recover, but it's gonna take Disney swallowing its pride, removing all the bad eggs and hiring a bunch of talented people who are passionate about pre-Disney Star Wars, and making great content one after the other. I'd guess if they nailed a new trilogy, then people would say Star Wars is actually back.
@achaudhari101 Oh hell yeah! I'm thinking either that, or the Thrawn Trilogy, but both of those need to be respectful of the source material and be accurate as well. I would prefer a KOTOR trilogy first though so it distances themselves more from the Sequel Trilogy.
I disagree that there weren't games related to the OT after the PT started. Jedi outcast, Jedi academy, Empire at War, and both battlefronts had major OT (or post-OT EU) ties. Also the books and toys related to the OT or post-OT kept coming the whole time. That said, yes, the PT got a whole multimedia project to build it out
I was going to say the same thing, however the OP was born in 95, so access to some of those games at the age when they came out might have been limited.
But that's the thing, there is no solo focus squeal trilogy game. Nothing that just focuses on that era. (Edit: expect for Lego Star Wars Force awakens)
@@MegaDarkness5000 That's absolutely true, but the reason for that is mostly no one knew what the sequels were going to be until the final cut of episode 9 was settled, so they couldn't necessarily do much. The other thing is of course disney being awful at video games as a component of a franchise. They did have a 2 season cartoon that was a pure ST tie-in but it was not well received
I think one of the biggest sequel missteps was making Rey essentially the main protagonist but having her be related to Palpatine. If they had made her a kenobi, long lost skywalker or something else the sequels maybe would be easier to salvage. However having your new main protagonist be the granddaughter of the main villain might be the worst creative decision I think they could have went with. On top of trashing the protagonists from the previous series. Not sure how the franchise could ever be what it was without going to a different time period.
Since Rey was so powerful I liked the idea of Palpatine being in some way involved, but I didn't like that they made her his descendant. The 2 powerful new characters rey and snoke both end up being connected to palpatine.
The issue on risks vs safety is that the corporations aren't a unified monolith. As far as movies/TV goes, there are 2 primary parties. On one hand you have the executives and shareholders who want to play safe trying to guaranty large profits; but on the other hand there are the activist writers who want to create new things that reject the old things. So you end up with people who hate what IP's like Star Wars working for corps who want to make nothing but more Star Wars.
They really should just bring back the Legends EU in some form. I mean, when you compare 10 years of Disney canon and the first 10 years of the old EU continuity, the later just did so much more, with just as many highs and lows. The main difference now is that their gold standard seems to mediocrity and/or divisive, geared towards a more casual and broader audience with shorter attentions spans and through big budgeted shows and movies.
It’s a bit of both sometimes the right risks at the wrong times or the wrong risks in general. Sometimes they play it safe but then they become lazy because they think they’re playing it “safe” Star Wars need to go into hibernation at least with shows for awhile
Kenobi probably needed to be more like Boba Fett, keeping the character on Tattooine. Boba Fett on the other hand needed to get off Tattooine. It's less an issue of "risk" and more an issue of understanding the world, the characters and their personalities and roles in the story.
Disney bought Star Wars because it was a massive brand already, they really did not have to try and reinvent the wheel. The funny thing is, when Disney bought Star Wars I was worried they were just going to play it safe and slowly milk it to death, but now I would much prefer they had done that rather than cutting out the heart right away.
On the Kenobi show It could easily be about him watching over Luke while working with his guilt. If they wanted Obi-Wan to leave Tatooine could have been to protect Luke. Let's say the inquisitors came and Obi-Wan feelt that his best chance to protect Luke, was to reveal himself for them and then take of, making them chase him. Then about BoBF I still would like to know how much that show changed after Kathleen put Dave I creative control before it started production. We know that Favreau didn't want the scooters and I also belive that Grogu was meant to stay with Luke. Their was rumors about that Favreau had a plan for adventures with Luke and Grogu.
5:30 I like the idea and do wish that was the case. Other "eras" focused on just a few people or one era. As much as I wish the sequels were redeemed, it means we would have been deprived of Jedi Fallen Order, *one of* the most relatable and fun stories lately. Though I really hate this "deploy an array of random shit and see what sticks" approach, we did get very very few diamonds out of it.
The main reason that they never made more stories in the sequel era is that they simply couldn't. Bob Iger and Kennedy were in such a rush to get movies out to recoup the sale prices that nobody took a moment to establish anything meaningful for the time period. Remember how the movies felt like nothing existed outside of the protagonists and antagonists at that immediate moment? That's not a coincidence. There really *was* nothing else written. It's a big part of why the one show they tried to make in that time period, Star Wars Resistance, failed so miserably: because the higher ups mandated that it couldn't contradict the movies and the movies were constantly being rewritten, it couldn't do much of anything. Disney's shortsightedness and lack of any coherent artistic vision sabotaged the entire sequel era from the beginning and their constant retcons to the prior eras in an attempt to justify their poor story decisions is dragging them down too.
Hey Thor what are your thoughts on the Asogians? The race E.T. is from. I haven't seen it talked about much but since they are canon in Star Wars, can we assume that like Yoda's species they have a strong connection to the Force and that E.T. himself was actually Force Sensitive in the film. I feel like it can open a can of worms though cause you can say the Force Dyad was probably established in E.T. since he formed that connection with Elliott. What are your thoughts?
not thor but... my biggest fear with Disney is that they would find a way to bring star wars to our Earth. anyway ET has been a nothing burger for decades now, I don't think there's anything to be gained with saying ET's race is in the GFFA long ago. that seems like a couple buddies joking. more than cannon.
The most buffle me Thor is Djin character. We have catching lightning in a jar moment that a character my end be the Leader of Mandalorian! a no body!. but Disney like: nah! he don't want it. they could build story of that and Boba fett show could we see build his clan with tusken raider and be a Rival or friend to Djin! there is so much potential
Hey Thor, longtime viewer, first time commenter. Like many here, I'm a lifelong fan who's basically checked out from Star Wars (as well as most other big franchises, to be honest) and while I've enjoyed a few things Disney has put out, for the most part I've simply not been interested. That said, whenever I hear critics/commenters on Star Wars, MCU, Rings of Power, etc. talk about the importance of "giving fans what they want" or treating that as a solution to a given franchise's current ills, I'm not really sure that's the best idea. As a worldbuilder and aspiring writer, the last thing I want is to feel that my creativity is beholden to anyone else's whims, let alone trying to those of a faceless mass of disparate consumers. (Of course, as long as art is being produced for profit, there will be that consideration - but one would hope a balance could be found between creative freedom and "just giving the fans what they want".) I've also never felt that authors or creators "owe" anything in particular to their fans - I paid for the ticket, I got to watch the movie, transaction complete, whether I enjoyed it or not. In particular, I want to bring up this quote from George Lucas in The Star Wars Archives: Episodes IV-VI that I really love and seems to contradict the idea of just "giving the fans what they want": "But then, when the movie comes out and everybody says it's terrible, and asks, "Why did you do this? This is the worst film ever made," I can say, "That's the film I wanted to make." I don't have any excuses. And that's the best feeling in the world. That's how I tolerated all that craziness." What do you think of that sentiment and how it applies to the current discourse in Star Wars and fandoms more generally?
Hey Thor; (Part Question, Part Anecdote) If we’re all tired of all of the modern day entertainment, what’s stopping us from, either individually or collectively, creating new universes in which to tell our own stories? We can be inspired by those who came before us instead of waiting for studios to “finally get it right”, while at that same time creating new worlds and experiences for ourselves and possibly even for others to explore and enjoy and just have fun. (My anecdote begins here. I’ll leave it to your discretion whether or not it’s included) I’m really tired of seeing my favorite franchises going down the gutter for a variety of reasons, one of which being subpar or just downright bad stories. I had a recent epiphany in which I realized I was tired of playing in other people’s sandboxes, and wanted to make my own sandbox in which I could tell whatever stories I wanted, without the limitations of whatever other universe I found myself in. I know in the past you’ve mentioned creating a series of stories with your community in a sort of open-ended shared universe. I’ve always been pleased with your stories, and seeing you craft a universe of your own may help to inspire others to do the same. That’s all. Long-winded, semi-organized rant over. Have a good one, Thor, Naboo, and cats.
Hey Thor, while it feels a bit bad to always be picking on her, I do think that the defining criticism for Disney Star Wars is mismanagement. Lucas guided the first two trilogies, Lucy Wilson kept a steady hand on wheel of the EU, but Kennedy, for all her many career successes, either couldn’t keep a clear plan for the stories being produced nor hire someone to control the story groups output and the result has been disjointed and at times revisionist films and tv from one project to the next. The book of boba fett didn’t need to exist and became Mando season 2.5, Kenobi connected to nothing, the Acolyte came out years after the high republic books and their initial big push and somehow, somehow the Emperor had returned.
The original sin of the Disney SW era was how rushed the first batch of content was (something Iger admitted was his mistake). They pushed out way too much, way too fast, multiple productions with multiple creatives pulling in different directions. That's why it didn't mesh very well. It also ended up saturating and splitting the market. SW as a franchise needs time to heal, it needs to cut the content release down to a trickle so they can take the time to insure every new release hits it out of the park. Once they can do that for a few years then it might reclaim it's place.
One of the big reasons I got bored with disney star wars right away was the time jumps. One minute we got old Han Solo the next minute we got young Han Solo. One minute we got star killer base the next minute we're back with the original death star.
Hey Thor, One of my favorite ideals set by the Jedi has always been the rule of loving without exclusion for some over others. Hopefully I'm getting the philosophy intended, as from my view the meaning of this is to respect and value the well-being of everyone equally with no favoritism and to accept both the good and the bad you experience with them as long as they are not infringing on the rights of others. It's an ideal that, while difficult to practice in real life, is one that I feel we haven't had enough of in this world for at least some time. These days, it seems we are encouraged to be as selective as possible in choosing those you associate with and come to know as people. If someone doesn't immediately agree with or has reservations about certain things that you value or believe in, they're immediately cast out of the conversation or group they were once a part of without any interest in hearing their point of view. I feel like these expectations have caused most of the social problems we see today with little good coming out of them but that hasn't stopped anyone from reconsidering how this is affecting themselves and the people they treat this way. I understand that, unlike Jedi, we all have individual desires and relationships we value above all others. But the big question from me is, why hasn't this been recognized as the detriment it is to everyone, and what can we do to mitigate it in our daily lives?
It's not the quantity of the risks, it's the quality of the risks. Or more accurately, It's not that they took too many risks it's that they kept letting people deliberately try to sabatoge it.
How is Star Wars going to recover if no one is going to admit there’s something significantly wrong? When there are finally some consequences for failure, maybe then you could put someone in charge who won’t let controversy and criticism be the defining characteristics of their tenure.
Hey Thor, not really modern star wars related question, but did you ever play The Clone Wars Adventures back in the day? It was an Online MMO that was up during the run of the clone wars up until Disney bought SW and it was shut down. I just ask because that's a big factor in my modern love for star wars and idk I kinda miss how imaginative it was with JUST an animated series. I remember jumping on my free account (didn't have the money for the paid version) and still having loads of fun with it. Also wondering if anyone else shares those memories. Love the content, keep it up!
I’m sure people a bit sick of other people being like, “Just look at the MCU! It did everything right!” (It didn’t do EVERYTHING right but still) However, Disney SW really could’ve benefitted from taking a page from the MCU, imo. The in-between movies could’ve connected to the Sequels, at least a bit. Kinda like the in-between MCU movies usually tying into the Avengers movies, at least a bit. I mean, sure, we get The Winter Soldier which mostly feels disconnected… but then also left a huge impact on some following movies. Because of the big Hydra WITHIN Shield reveal. (Also on Agents Of Shield back when that WAS canon, before they changed their minds, which was stupid, imo.)
One of the key properties of Gold that makes it so valuable is its scarcity. If there was Gold everywhere it would eventually lose value, regardless of how pretty it looks (which is what happened to amethyst). The same could be said about Star Wars. Apart from it being the visual spectacle, the scarcity of Star Wars content pre Disney (or pre-prequel) is what added to its allure and mystique and thus its overall value. But with Disney wanting to cash in on Star Wars for all its worth, the amount of content would inevitably lead to diminishing returns and decrease of value. The mystique that existed around Star Wars can never really be reclaimed. I feel it would have been best for the franchise if Lucas never sold it and just let it retire, and leave any further stories up to the imaginations of its fans. But alas...we have what we have now.
The problem with Kenobi is that he actually had the opportunity to kill Vader and he did not. This is why the Obi Wan series was always going to suck. Set 9 years BBY there was nothing of significance that can happen and the Reva/Inquisitor arc was just terrible.
It was not risks it was not diversity it was the most horrible storytelling in the history of television I am done for good, 40 years I am done star wars died when Lucas sold only Disney wars dumpster fire scrap show is left and I am not that masochistic
Hey thor, I think theres a plot hole in andor (this is painful to write, but yeah...) In the prison arc, there's a whole big deal about prisoners discovering no one gets out, only reassigned. And when the empire makes the mistake of reassigning a prisoner to the same base, that apparently spoils the truth. My question is, how does that make any sense? Are all prisoners reassigned when their sentence is up? Then why dont those prisoners spread the news? Surely, theres would be thousands of prisoners who'd be finishing out their sentence, and then will discover the truth, every day. This system seems unsustainable. Can you make sense of it
agree. it is definitely a plot hole. and IDC what they say... its still cheaper to have droids do the work... they have nuclear reactors... energy isn't an issue... transporting food in and waste out, however, would be.
They get transferred to a different place "to go and die" to quote Kino Loy. Thus it should be assumed that it's a completely different prison on a different planet
@@sheevone4359Do those other planet prisons also get transfered elsewhere? I feel like the problem remains. No matter where you go, youd realize youre never getting out
It's not just prisoners realizing they aren't getting out. They also had to figure out what to do about it. In the prison Andor was in, they figured out the flaw in the prison's security system and were able to take advantage of it. And we don't know how many of the prisoners actually escaped or that there weren't revolts at other prisons.
Kenobi was also the point where I gave up. It made me put off Andor for a whole year. Ahsoka was so mid I didn’t even finish it and the acolyte was also incredibly mid and at times easily some of the worst writing in Star Wars no hyperbole. There were the other things I liked like the bad batch, season 3 Mando and the respawn games (and even the Patterson pentex Ahsoka cut) but the issue is that star wars quality isn’t consistent anymore. I’m not an active fan anymore. Of course I still like to talk about Star Wars and put people on, but there is no hope or interest in me anymore for the future especially when new projects keep getting delayed or cancelled
Kenobi was also my cut off point too, to bring back the two stars of the prequels and use them to tell that story? No, I haven’t watch any new Disney stuff since, even when some of it has been highly praised. I’m now a TH-cam Star Wars fan, it seems I’m far from the only one 😅
The thing is Star Wars was made through love and passion which eventually took it to where it is today. Without it and just "chasing the bag' mentality, you will only get so far.
"Hey Thor!" I wanted to try a more positive question and ask what you recommend for Star Wars fans to look in to, not the Disney mainstream movies or shows but the more muted things like books, games etc. If somebody needed to get their Star Wars mojo back, where should they look up? Any good recommendations? Ps. Arthas, Anakin video when?
If you haven't already read them... The old EU had a lot of good books. Heir to the Empire trilogy, Truce at Bakura, the Tales anthologies, the X-wing novels, the Jedi Apprentice series
Hi Thor I think you should do more of these videos. I also have a question Do you think Kathleen is out. I don't follow all news from the US, but hasn't it teen quiet about the renewal of her contract? To me it means she's gone or at least leaving very soon. I got a feeling about this when Jon Favreau out of the blue got to do the next movie. It didn't feel like it was her doing. She did put Dave as a creative director over Jon after the success with giving us Luke in the final episode of Mando s2.
Hey Thor, do you think that anakin’s role as The Father makes him sort of like Charon who helps departed souls transition from the living force into the cosmic force? It seems like the prophecy wouldn’t make sense if it only accumulated in Anakin making the world a better place for 20 more years before another baddie shows up to ruin it. If that were the case, do you think we could see Hayden and Adam Driver together someday?
The ST was simply bad; its problems weren't caused by competition with other Star Wars content. And the PT had to compete with the legacy of the OT and while many fans of that time thought the PT inferior to the OT, myself included, it didn't drive large numbers of fans away like the ST did. I don't think it was a mistake for Rogue One and Solo to not include tie-ins to the ST movies. It was never what those movies were intended to do. And in the case of Rogue One, I view it as a prequel to ANH.
Star Wars could recover with the right person in charge, look at Season 3 of Star Trek Picard and the fan reaction that got despite other 2 seasons of Picard being panned by most fans.
Hey Thor, I think the risk Disney should have taken was not making any content anywhere near the original, Lucas, movies. different time, different story, all new ships, bad guys, good guys, etc. Give the project to one creator to make happen instead of by committee. Let that person cook. That would be risky, but it would have been better than what we got. (This means no sequels, no Mando (unless set it the other time), no BoBF, No Obi, No Ahsoka, no Acolyte... even Andor, nothing connected to the OT/PT). Draw on an EU source if you must, like Kotor or Bane, but nothing in the Skywalker saga. Thoughts?
Hey Thor, since you don't think starwars will ever fully recover, what franchise if any will fill the space Star wars once had as the default science fiction/sci-fantasy franchise in media
Star Wars was generational. My parents loved Star Wars. I was born between ESB and RotJ, and I grew up loving Star Wars. Now I don't know if I'm going to bother introducing my new son to it. They should, indeed, have catered to the hardcore fans. The cycle has been broken.
I say define take risks. I would say TFA was incredibly risky. By doing the exact same storyline without setting it up. With cardboard characters that don't make any sense
I tuned in to see Kenobi vs Vader Instead I got a toddler outrunning mercenaries I tuned in to see Boba Fett kicking ass Instead I got moped kids and Fennec had to remind Boba how to use his own damn ship.
Leia was not a toddler, she was like 9. And I think her outrunning grown men isn't nearly as laughable as Obi-Wan hiding Leia in his trench coat. It reminded me of a similar scene in Austin Powers.
The weirdest thing is it practically seems like lucasfilm under disney is actively straight up avoiding the obvious ways to the road of success that would actually guarantee them wins like first up they should have went the harry potter route and adapted the novels and comics from the expanded universe like the thrawn trilogy instead of creating a half baked cobbled together mess of a story that makes zero sense
They simply bet wrong. They took the smallest risks with characters but felt confident in all the wrong ideas. A show about obi wan, low risk. Make him detatched from the force and break the lore of meeting vader and basically winning. Bad idea. Show on boba fet, fan favorite character. Low risk. Make him a soy boy with no real agenda or driving force-stupid idea. Story about ahsoka and sabine-low risk, crappy show writing. The list can go on. The biggest “risk” they took was who they hired for everything-and even that they felt were “sure fire” picks 🙄😂
Where are the "wars" in star wars? Nowadays it's all little stories of characters that don't matter in the grand scheme. That's the problem. Who cares about the Skeleton crew. What a waste of time this framchise has become.
I disagree. Tie-ins would have only hurt Rogue One and Solo even more. Those movies don't need to be ruined even more in the way that you've suggested. Disney simply has no idea what to do with STAR WARS. Disney is like an accountant who calculates how much money can be made rather than being the creative force behind a project that makes a whole lot of money. Disney would rather be on the sidelines counting the receipts than be right in the fray of things, with world building, character development and everything else that makes a good story. This is why Disney is so scattershot when it comes to all of its projects.
Ya know, I’ve never really understood the whole “I’m no longer a Star Wars fan because of how bad this show was.” Yes of course a lot of newer Star Wars content has been really bad, but is something like Kenobi or The Acolyte really just gonna make you “not a fan” anymore? As for myself, there’s nothing that could ever take away my love for those first 6 movies. I don’t have to be a fan of the Kenobi show in order to love the prequels. And aside from the garbage, there are still newer Star Wars products that I really do love like Andor or Jedi Survivor. Maybe it’s just me, but just because Star Wars isn’t what it used to be doesn’t mean you have to stop being a fan of what made you love it in the first place.
It's love to see something new from Star Wars is what's lost. Not Lucas's six movies. I still love them regardless of what Disney has done to Star Wars.
Both.... For example Star wars has a product diversity problem, we get exclusively action adventures when cooking, holodrama's, and nature documentaries are right there. There is no reason to be stuck in this square peg of media but ineptitude.
I mean theoretically they are kinda being smart when playing it safer with the products for the larger audience and then trying the out there stuff with the superfans but where it all falls apart is terrible writing.
It was laziness and bad writing. They used DEI as a shield against criticism. They shouted at anyone who didn't like their shows. They double downed on their problems rather than learn and not repeat them. Then we got the Acolyte which is the grand mix and fusion of all of the problems they have made all over the years. Bad script, lazy writing, bad script, bad acting, bad script, overblown budget while also looking cheap, bad writing, and shouting at fans for being racist for not liking their show before it even comes out... And Bad writing!
Neither... how do people not get it... its simply a lack of talent, motivation and and accountability. They waste budgets hiring or straight up paying friends and family and work everyone else to the bone for pennies under threat of blackballing. If customers dont like their product it doesnt matter as long as their stock holders continue to keep the lights on. Thats the process now..movies and shows are just a byproduct of this system.
Bait and switching Kenobi for an unlikeable and ultimately rejected character such as Reva was a bad decision-all that screen time wasted on what should have been Kenobi discreetly bodyguarding Luke and subtlety guiding him from the sidelines….it’s sacrilege to have wasted Kenobi,and again with Fett.I guess the problem is both characters are male and white-that’s seemingly unacceptable in Disney Star Wars. Disney say “male and pale is stale”…so is(was)your mass fanbase-it’s a bold strategy cotton….
I think Rise of Skywalker is the movie most affected by not taking risks and playing it so safe. They were so afraid of the fallout from Last Jedi, that they immediately pushed the emergency button and brought back Palpatine. That was such a lazy move from Lucasfilm. They were better off just leaving Kylo Ren as the main antagonist and actually making him a threat for once. Or better yet, do a reverse turn (like they should have done in Last Jedi), where Rey joins the dark side (after learning shes a descendant of Palpatine) and Kylo turns good defeating her by the end of the film. Literally anything would be better than the movie we got.
《Once you start down the dunderheaded path, forever will it dominate your Destiny》 ...Disney's Last Chance was "The Last Grumpy Jedi"... ...i beliEve the "Most Obvious Decision" for the Fate of Disney STAR WARS was botched 12 Years Ago when Bob Iger should have started making George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy... ...instead, Kathleen Kennedy was allowed to take a Risk by making "The Female Force Awakens"...? 👽 🖖 🤖
absolute waste to not show kenobi protect luke at all costs. in ANH he cuts someones arm off who tries to harm him with no hesitation. the show should have been about the determination and lengths he will go to protect Luke, maybe getting into themesof what is the jedi way and do the actions justify or is this a crisis of conscious. this show was just so disappointing
Can we please move on from these Disney centered videos at least a little bit? The videos explaining actual lore like if the Jedi are right and what the force means are just much better imo.
The Obi-Wan Kenobi show was not only horrendous, but when I watched Star Wars Theory interviewing Stuart Beattie and he talks about how the show was originally supposed to be a trilogy, and when he revealed what the original script was, it just makes me hate the show even more than I already did.
The original script would've been 100xs better than what we ended up with. Typical Disney.
I actually think what we got is fine even tho its flawed.
Maybe if Solo didn’t flop from vengeful people, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
@@achaudhari101 they should have wrote a better script for that movie then 🤦🏾
Bc Disney wanted to tell the story of Reva and Leia, but in order to garner any actual interest, they slap the Obiwan label on it. Boom increased viewership
If only they would have gone with it because we’d be talking about a well written and cool Obi-Wan trilogy of films instead of being disappointed with the show we got. He even managed to have an Obi-Wan and Vader fight with a conclusion that I would have been ok with (when I heard they were going to fight in the show, I thought it was a bad idea, and was proven right). Having them fight and Vader thinking he killed Obi-Wan is the only way it makes sense. A big part of Obi-Wan’s arc in the show was learning to accept he failed and who Anakin had become; an evil Sith. So him clearly defeating Vader again and letting him live straight up makes no sense. I’d rather be excited about a sequel to a cool Obi-Wan film. Instead I’m hearing talks of a season two for a show I’m not going to watch.
The risks were calculated, but boy were they bad at math
Thank you for picking up my question.
I love how you are reminding, that fans are paying customers. Paying customers shall not be disregarded and shall not be blamed for bad product performance.
Also - love news videos with Naboo. Factual. Relevant. Without unnecessary hype.
Please do more.
I am reminded of a line from the movie Elizabeth: "You did not have the courage to be loyal".
Disney did not have the courage to stay loyal to the vision of George Lucas. That's all that matters.
Thanks for answering the question! Nice little surprise this morning :)
At least he got to yours. It feels devastating when your question is ignored 🥲
@@PixelKatana Now I feel worse that I don't answer more...
@@thorskywalker Please don't! The comment was meant to be dramatic for comedic purposes. It is understood you can't possibly answer everyone
The amount of risk doesn’t matter. It’s the right or wrong risks, despite volume.
I still think Star Wars can recover, but it's gonna take Disney swallowing its pride, removing all the bad eggs and hiring a bunch of talented people who are passionate about pre-Disney Star Wars, and making great content one after the other. I'd guess if they nailed a new trilogy, then people would say Star Wars is actually back.
Maybe an Old Republic trilogy in the vein of LOTR.
@achaudhari101 Oh hell yeah! I'm thinking either that, or the Thrawn Trilogy, but both of those need to be respectful of the source material and be accurate as well.
I would prefer a KOTOR trilogy first though so it distances themselves more from the Sequel Trilogy.
To quote a wise ogre: "Like that's ever gonna happen!"
I disagree that there weren't games related to the OT after the PT started. Jedi outcast, Jedi academy, Empire at War, and both battlefronts had major OT (or post-OT EU) ties. Also the books and toys related to the OT or post-OT kept coming the whole time. That said, yes, the PT got a whole multimedia project to build it out
I was going to say the same thing, however the OP was born in 95, so access to some of those games at the age when they came out might have been limited.
But that's the thing, there is no solo focus squeal trilogy game. Nothing that just focuses on that era.
(Edit: expect for Lego Star Wars Force awakens)
@@MegaDarkness5000 That's absolutely true, but the reason for that is mostly no one knew what the sequels were going to be until the final cut of episode 9 was settled, so they couldn't necessarily do much. The other thing is of course disney being awful at video games as a component of a franchise. They did have a 2 season cartoon that was a pure ST tie-in but it was not well received
I think one of the biggest sequel missteps was making Rey essentially the main protagonist but having her be related to Palpatine. If they had made her a kenobi, long lost skywalker or something else the sequels maybe would be easier to salvage.
However having your new main protagonist be the granddaughter of the main villain might be the worst creative decision I think they could have went with. On top of trashing the protagonists from the previous series.
Not sure how the franchise could ever be what it was without going to a different time period.
Since Rey was so powerful I liked the idea of Palpatine being in some way involved, but I didn't like that they made her his descendant. The 2 powerful new characters rey and snoke both end up being connected to palpatine.
The issue on risks vs safety is that the corporations aren't a unified monolith. As far as movies/TV goes, there are 2 primary parties. On one hand you have the executives and shareholders who want to play safe trying to guaranty large profits; but on the other hand there are the activist writers who want to create new things that reject the old things. So you end up with people who hate what IP's like Star Wars working for corps who want to make nothing but more Star Wars.
They really should just bring back the Legends EU in some form. I mean, when you compare 10 years of Disney canon and the first 10 years of the old EU continuity, the later just did so much more, with just as many highs and lows. The main difference now is that their gold standard seems to mediocrity and/or divisive, geared towards a more casual and broader audience with shorter attentions spans and through big budgeted shows and movies.
It’s a bit of both sometimes the right risks at the wrong times or the wrong risks in general. Sometimes they play it safe but then they become lazy because they think they’re playing it “safe” Star Wars need to go into hibernation at least with shows for awhile
Kenobi probably needed to be more like Boba Fett, keeping the character on Tattooine. Boba Fett on the other hand needed to get off Tattooine.
It's less an issue of "risk" and more an issue of understanding the world, the characters and their personalities and roles in the story.
Disney bought Star Wars because it was a massive brand already, they really did not have to try and reinvent the wheel. The funny thing is, when Disney bought Star Wars I was worried they were just going to play it safe and slowly milk it to death, but now I would much prefer they had done that rather than cutting out the heart right away.
On the Kenobi show It could easily be about him watching over Luke while working with his guilt. If they wanted Obi-Wan to leave Tatooine could have been to protect Luke. Let's say the inquisitors came and Obi-Wan feelt that his best chance to protect Luke, was to reveal himself for them and then take of, making them chase him.
Then about BoBF I still would like to know how much that show changed after Kathleen put Dave I creative control before it started production. We know that Favreau didn't want the scooters and I also belive that Grogu was meant to stay with Luke. Their was rumors about that Favreau had a plan for adventures with Luke and Grogu.
5:30 I like the idea and do wish that was the case.
Other "eras" focused on just a few people or one era. As much as I wish the sequels were redeemed, it means we would have been deprived of Jedi Fallen Order, *one of* the most relatable and fun stories lately. Though I really hate this "deploy an array of random shit and see what sticks" approach, we did get very very few diamonds out of it.
The main reason that they never made more stories in the sequel era is that they simply couldn't. Bob Iger and Kennedy were in such a rush to get movies out to recoup the sale prices that nobody took a moment to establish anything meaningful for the time period.
Remember how the movies felt like nothing existed outside of the protagonists and antagonists at that immediate moment? That's not a coincidence. There really *was* nothing else written. It's a big part of why the one show they tried to make in that time period, Star Wars Resistance, failed so miserably: because the higher ups mandated that it couldn't contradict the movies and the movies were constantly being rewritten, it couldn't do much of anything.
Disney's shortsightedness and lack of any coherent artistic vision sabotaged the entire sequel era from the beginning and their constant retcons to the prior eras in an attempt to justify their poor story decisions is dragging them down too.
Hey Thor what are your thoughts on the Asogians? The race E.T. is from. I haven't seen it talked about much but since they are canon in Star Wars, can we assume that like Yoda's species they have a strong connection to the Force and that E.T. himself was actually Force Sensitive in the film.
I feel like it can open a can of worms though cause you can say the Force Dyad was probably established in E.T. since he formed that connection with Elliott. What are your thoughts?
not thor but... my biggest fear with Disney is that they would find a way to bring star wars to our Earth. anyway ET has been a nothing burger for decades now, I don't think there's anything to be gained with saying ET's race is in the GFFA long ago. that seems like a couple buddies joking. more than cannon.
The most buffle me Thor is Djin character. We have catching lightning in a jar moment that a character my end be the Leader of Mandalorian! a no body!. but Disney like: nah! he don't want it. they could build story of that and Boba fett show could we see build his clan with tusken raider and be a Rival or friend to Djin!
there is so much potential
Hey Thor, longtime viewer, first time commenter. Like many here, I'm a lifelong fan who's basically checked out from Star Wars (as well as most other big franchises, to be honest) and while I've enjoyed a few things Disney has put out, for the most part I've simply not been interested. That said, whenever I hear critics/commenters on Star Wars, MCU, Rings of Power, etc. talk about the importance of "giving fans what they want" or treating that as a solution to a given franchise's current ills, I'm not really sure that's the best idea. As a worldbuilder and aspiring writer, the last thing I want is to feel that my creativity is beholden to anyone else's whims, let alone trying to those of a faceless mass of disparate consumers. (Of course, as long as art is being produced for profit, there will be that consideration - but one would hope a balance could be found between creative freedom and "just giving the fans what they want".) I've also never felt that authors or creators "owe" anything in particular to their fans - I paid for the ticket, I got to watch the movie, transaction complete, whether I enjoyed it or not. In particular, I want to bring up this quote from George Lucas in The Star Wars Archives: Episodes IV-VI that I really love and seems to contradict the idea of just "giving the fans what they want": "But then, when the movie comes out and everybody says it's terrible, and asks, "Why did you do this? This is the worst film ever made," I can say, "That's the film I wanted to make." I don't have any excuses. And that's the best feeling in the world. That's how I tolerated all that craziness." What do you think of that sentiment and how it applies to the current discourse in Star Wars and fandoms more generally?
Hey Thor;
(Part Question, Part Anecdote)
If we’re all tired of all of the modern day entertainment, what’s stopping us from, either individually or collectively, creating new universes in which to tell our own stories? We can be inspired by those who came before us instead of waiting for studios to “finally get it right”, while at that same time creating new worlds and experiences for ourselves and possibly even for others to explore and enjoy and just have fun.
(My anecdote begins here. I’ll leave it to your discretion whether or not it’s included)
I’m really tired of seeing my favorite franchises going down the gutter for a variety of reasons, one of which being subpar or just downright bad stories.
I had a recent epiphany in which I realized I was tired of playing in other people’s sandboxes, and wanted to make my own sandbox in which I could tell whatever stories I wanted, without the limitations of whatever other universe I found myself in.
I know in the past you’ve mentioned creating a series of stories with your community in a sort of open-ended shared universe. I’ve always been pleased with your stories, and seeing you craft a universe of your own may help to inspire others to do the same.
That’s all. Long-winded, semi-organized rant over. Have a good one, Thor, Naboo, and cats.
Hey Thor, while it feels a bit bad to always be picking on her, I do think that the defining criticism for Disney Star Wars is mismanagement. Lucas guided the first two trilogies, Lucy Wilson kept a steady hand on wheel of the EU, but Kennedy, for all her many career successes, either couldn’t keep a clear plan for the stories being produced nor hire someone to control the story groups output and the result has been disjointed and at times revisionist films and tv from one project to the next. The book of boba fett didn’t need to exist and became Mando season 2.5, Kenobi connected to nothing, the Acolyte came out years after the high republic books and their initial big push and somehow, somehow the Emperor had returned.
The original sin of the Disney SW era was how rushed the first batch of content was (something Iger admitted was his mistake). They pushed out way too much, way too fast, multiple productions with multiple creatives pulling in different directions. That's why it didn't mesh very well. It also ended up saturating and splitting the market.
SW as a franchise needs time to heal, it needs to cut the content release down to a trickle so they can take the time to insure every new release hits it out of the park. Once they can do that for a few years then it might reclaim it's place.
One of the big reasons I got bored with disney star wars right away was the time jumps. One minute we got old Han Solo the next minute we got young Han Solo. One minute we got star killer base the next minute we're back with the original death star.
Idk if i'd put a number on it.. they're just the wrong risks..
Hey Thor,
One of my favorite ideals set by the Jedi has always been the rule of loving without exclusion for some over others. Hopefully I'm getting the philosophy intended, as from my view the meaning of this is to respect and value the well-being of everyone equally with no favoritism and to accept both the good and the bad you experience with them as long as they are not infringing on the rights of others. It's an ideal that, while difficult to practice in real life, is one that I feel we haven't had enough of in this world for at least some time.
These days, it seems we are encouraged to be as selective as possible in choosing those you associate with and come to know as people. If someone doesn't immediately agree with or has reservations about certain things that you value or believe in, they're immediately cast out of the conversation or group they were once a part of without any interest in hearing their point of view.
I feel like these expectations have caused most of the social problems we see today with little good coming out of them but that hasn't stopped anyone from reconsidering how this is affecting themselves and the people they treat this way. I understand that, unlike Jedi, we all have individual desires and relationships we value above all others. But the big question from me is, why hasn't this been recognized as the detriment it is to everyone, and what can we do to mitigate it in our daily lives?
It's not the quantity of the risks, it's the quality of the risks. Or more accurately, It's not that they took too many risks it's that they kept letting people deliberately try to sabatoge it.
How is Star Wars going to recover if no one is going to admit there’s something significantly wrong?
When there are finally some consequences for failure, maybe then you could put someone in charge who won’t let controversy and criticism be the defining characteristics of their tenure.
I thought disney star wars was very similar to warner bros dc universe and that finally fell.
Hey Thor, not really modern star wars related question, but did you ever play The Clone Wars Adventures back in the day? It was an Online MMO that was up during the run of the clone wars up until Disney bought SW and it was shut down. I just ask because that's a big factor in my modern love for star wars and idk I kinda miss how imaginative it was with JUST an animated series. I remember jumping on my free account (didn't have the money for the paid version) and still having loads of fun with it. Also wondering if anyone else shares those memories. Love the content, keep it up!
I’m sure people a bit sick of other people being like, “Just look at the MCU! It did everything right!” (It didn’t do EVERYTHING right but still) However, Disney SW really could’ve benefitted from taking a page from the MCU, imo. The in-between movies could’ve connected to the Sequels, at least a bit. Kinda like the in-between MCU movies usually tying into the Avengers movies, at least a bit. I mean, sure, we get The Winter Soldier which mostly feels disconnected… but then also left a huge impact on some following movies. Because of the big Hydra WITHIN Shield reveal. (Also on Agents Of Shield back when that WAS canon, before they changed their minds, which was stupid, imo.)
If MCU can change their minds about canon of some shows, Star Wars can do the same 😂
yes, Agents of Shield was excellent show pretty much. erasing that ( and the other Netflix shows) was another act of arrogant fools.
One of the key properties of Gold that makes it so valuable is its scarcity. If there was Gold everywhere it would eventually lose value, regardless of how pretty it looks (which is what happened to amethyst). The same could be said about Star Wars. Apart from it being the visual spectacle, the scarcity of Star Wars content pre Disney (or pre-prequel) is what added to its allure and mystique and thus its overall value. But with Disney wanting to cash in on Star Wars for all its worth, the amount of content would inevitably lead to diminishing returns and decrease of value. The mystique that existed around Star Wars can never really be reclaimed. I feel it would have been best for the franchise if Lucas never sold it and just let it retire, and leave any further stories up to the imaginations of its fans. But alas...we have what we have now.
Thanks
The problem with Kenobi is that he actually had the opportunity to kill Vader and he did not. This is why the Obi Wan series was always going to suck. Set 9 years BBY there was nothing of significance that can happen and the Reva/Inquisitor arc was just terrible.
It was not risks it was not diversity it was the most horrible storytelling in the history of television I am done for good, 40 years I am done star wars died when Lucas sold only Disney wars dumpster fire scrap show is left and I am not that masochistic
Hey Thor,I was wondering what you thought of The Patterson Cut of Kenobi? I thought it was a huge improvement on the official version of the series
Hey thor,
I think theres a plot hole in andor (this is painful to write, but yeah...)
In the prison arc, there's a whole big deal about prisoners discovering no one gets out, only reassigned. And when the empire makes the mistake of reassigning a prisoner to the same base, that apparently spoils the truth.
My question is, how does that make any sense? Are all prisoners reassigned when their sentence is up? Then why dont those prisoners spread the news? Surely, theres would be thousands of prisoners who'd be finishing out their sentence, and then will discover the truth, every day. This system seems unsustainable.
Can you make sense of it
agree. it is definitely a plot hole.
and IDC what they say... its still cheaper to have droids do the work... they have nuclear reactors... energy isn't an issue... transporting food in and waste out, however, would be.
They get transferred to a different place "to go and die" to quote Kino Loy. Thus it should be assumed that it's a completely different prison on a different planet
@@sheevone4359Do those other planet prisons also get transfered elsewhere? I feel like the problem remains. No matter where you go, youd realize youre never getting out
@@presidentmillardfillmore1329nobody is saying these transfers aren't buying the farm....
It's not just prisoners realizing they aren't getting out. They also had to figure out what to do about it. In the prison Andor was in, they figured out the flaw in the prison's security system and were able to take advantage of it. And we don't know how many of the prisoners actually escaped or that there weren't revolts at other prisons.
Kenobi was also the point where I gave up. It made me put off Andor for a whole year. Ahsoka was so mid I didn’t even finish it and the acolyte was also incredibly mid and at times easily some of the worst writing in Star Wars no hyperbole. There were the other things I liked like the bad batch, season 3 Mando and the respawn games (and even the Patterson pentex Ahsoka cut) but the issue is that star wars quality isn’t consistent anymore. I’m not an active fan anymore. Of course I still like to talk about Star Wars and put people on, but there is no hope or interest in me anymore for the future especially when new projects keep getting delayed or cancelled
I can see you fully coming back.
Kenobi was also my cut off point too, to bring back the two stars of the prequels and use them to tell that story? No, I haven’t watch any new Disney stuff since, even when some of it has been highly praised. I’m now a TH-cam Star Wars fan, it seems I’m far from the only one 😅
They miss the Force for the trees.
12:15 true
I want to see Josh Trank given a chance to direct his spin off film once again!
The thing is Star Wars was made through love and passion which eventually took it to where it is today. Without it and just "chasing the bag' mentality, you will only get so far.
Now I'm starting to wonder if Disney's plan was to have Quemir (I hope I spelled that right) turn out to be a young Palpatine.
"Hey Thor!"
I wanted to try a more positive question and ask what you recommend for Star Wars fans to look in to, not the Disney mainstream movies or shows but the more muted things like books, games etc. If somebody needed to get their Star Wars mojo back, where should they look up? Any good recommendations?
Ps. Arthas, Anakin video when?
If you haven't already read them... The old EU had a lot of good books.
Heir to the Empire trilogy, Truce at Bakura, the Tales anthologies, the X-wing novels, the Jedi Apprentice series
Hi Thor I think you should do more of these videos. I also have a question Do you think Kathleen is out. I don't follow all news from the US, but hasn't it teen quiet about the renewal of her contract? To me it means she's gone or at least leaving very soon. I got a feeling about this when Jon Favreau out of the blue got to do the next movie. It didn't feel like it was her doing. She did put Dave as a creative director over Jon after the success with giving us Luke in the final episode of Mando s2.
HEY THor! Do you think the sequels could have included Jar-Jar+s tragic arc somehow?
Bobba fett should've been longer than 6 episodes and darker
Penguin succeeded in being what TBOBF was trying to be.
@vetarlittorf1807 correct
At this point it should be very obvious that it is not about the money
Hey Thor, do you think that anakin’s role as The Father makes him sort of like Charon who helps departed souls transition from the living force into the cosmic force?
It seems like the prophecy wouldn’t make sense if it only accumulated in Anakin making the world a better place for 20 more years before another baddie shows up to ruin it.
If that were the case, do you think we could see Hayden and Adam Driver together someday?
The ST was simply bad; its problems weren't caused by competition with other Star Wars content. And the PT had to compete with the legacy of the OT and while many fans of that time thought the PT inferior to the OT, myself included, it didn't drive large numbers of fans away like the ST did.
I don't think it was a mistake for Rogue One and Solo to not include tie-ins to the ST movies. It was never what those movies were intended to do. And in the case of Rogue One, I view it as a prequel to ANH.
Star Wars could recover with the right person in charge, look at Season 3 of Star Trek Picard and the fan reaction that got despite other 2 seasons of Picard being panned by most fans.
I think it's a bit of both
Hey Thor, I think the risk Disney should have taken was not making any content anywhere near the original, Lucas, movies. different time, different story, all new ships, bad guys, good guys, etc. Give the project to one creator to make happen instead of by committee. Let that person cook. That would be risky, but it would have been better than what we got. (This means no sequels, no Mando (unless set it the other time), no BoBF, No Obi, No Ahsoka, no Acolyte... even Andor, nothing connected to the OT/PT). Draw on an EU source if you must, like Kotor or Bane, but nothing in the Skywalker saga. Thoughts?
Hey Thor, since you don't think starwars will ever fully recover, what franchise if any will fill the space Star wars once had as the default science fiction/sci-fantasy franchise in media
Star Wars was generational. My parents loved Star Wars. I was born between ESB and RotJ, and I grew up loving Star Wars. Now I don't know if I'm going to bother introducing my new son to it. They should, indeed, have catered to the hardcore fans. The cycle has been broken.
I say define take risks. I would say TFA was incredibly risky. By doing the exact same storyline without setting it up. With cardboard characters that don't make any sense
The creator of Harry Potter was involved in Fantastic Beasts unlike the sequel Trilogy and rings of power
It’s more so wrong risks
Just a theory but it's possible the obvious ideas were dismissed for being too obvious.
I tuned in to see Kenobi vs Vader
Instead I got a toddler outrunning mercenaries
I tuned in to see Boba Fett kicking ass
Instead I got moped kids and Fennec had to remind Boba how to use his own damn ship.
Leia was not a toddler, she was like 9.
And I think her outrunning grown men isn't nearly as laughable as Obi-Wan hiding Leia in his trench coat. It reminded me of a similar scene in Austin Powers.
The weirdest thing is it practically seems like lucasfilm under disney is actively straight up avoiding the obvious ways to the road of success that would actually guarantee them wins like first up they should have went the harry potter route and adapted the novels and comics from the expanded universe like the thrawn trilogy instead of creating a half baked cobbled together mess of a story that makes zero sense
The sequels did way to much damage. In order to heal it has to remove that.
Dumb risks
Star Wars can recover, but it will take Disney finally wising up, or selling it to someone who WILL DO IT JUSTICE!
Two words: Tony Gilroy
They simply bet wrong. They took the smallest risks with characters but felt confident in all the wrong ideas.
A show about obi wan, low risk. Make him detatched from the force and break the lore of meeting vader and basically winning. Bad idea.
Show on boba fet, fan favorite character. Low risk. Make him a soy boy with no real agenda or driving force-stupid idea.
Story about ahsoka and sabine-low risk, crappy show writing. The list can go on.
The biggest “risk” they took was who they hired for everything-and even that they felt were “sure fire” picks 🙄😂
Where are the "wars" in star wars? Nowadays it's all little stories of characters that don't matter in the grand scheme. That's the problem.
Who cares about the Skeleton crew. What a waste of time this framchise has become.
I disagree. Tie-ins would have only hurt Rogue One and Solo even more. Those movies don't need to be ruined even more in the way that you've suggested. Disney simply has no idea what to do with STAR WARS. Disney is like an accountant who calculates how much money can be made rather than being the creative force behind a project that makes a whole lot of money. Disney would rather be on the sidelines counting the receipts than be right in the fray of things, with world building, character development and everything else that makes a good story. This is why Disney is so scattershot when it comes to all of its projects.
Ya know, I’ve never really understood the whole “I’m no longer a Star Wars fan because of how bad this show was.” Yes of course a lot of newer Star Wars content has been really bad, but is something like Kenobi or The Acolyte really just gonna make you “not a fan” anymore? As for myself, there’s nothing that could ever take away my love for those first 6 movies. I don’t have to be a fan of the Kenobi show in order to love the prequels. And aside from the garbage, there are still newer Star Wars products that I really do love like Andor or Jedi Survivor. Maybe it’s just me, but just because Star Wars isn’t what it used to be doesn’t mean you have to stop being a fan of what made you love it in the first place.
It's love to see something new from Star Wars is what's lost. Not Lucas's six movies.
I still love them regardless of what Disney has done to Star Wars.
Both.... For example Star wars has a product diversity problem, we get exclusively action adventures when cooking, holodrama's, and nature documentaries are right there.
There is no reason to be stuck in this square peg of media but ineptitude.
I mean theoretically they are kinda being smart when playing it safer with the products for the larger audience and then trying the out there stuff with the superfans but where it all falls apart is terrible writing.
I say TOO NONSENSICAL
It was laziness and bad writing.
They used DEI as a shield against criticism.
They shouted at anyone who didn't like their shows.
They double downed on their problems rather than learn and not repeat them.
Then we got the Acolyte which is the grand mix and fusion of all of the problems they have made all over the years.
Bad script, lazy writing, bad script, bad acting, bad script, overblown budget while also looking cheap, bad writing, and shouting at fans for being racist for not liking their show before it even comes out... And Bad writing!
Neither... how do people not get it... its simply a lack of talent, motivation and and accountability.
They waste budgets hiring or straight up paying friends and family and work everyone else to the bone for pennies under threat of blackballing.
If customers dont like their product it doesnt matter as long as their stock holders continue to keep the lights on.
Thats the process now..movies and shows are just a byproduct of this system.
Bait and switching Kenobi for an unlikeable and ultimately rejected character such as Reva was a bad decision-all that screen time wasted on what should have been Kenobi discreetly bodyguarding Luke and subtlety guiding him from the sidelines….it’s sacrilege to have wasted Kenobi,and again with Fett.I guess the problem is both characters are male and white-that’s seemingly unacceptable in Disney Star Wars.
Disney say “male and pale is stale”…so is(was)your mass fanbase-it’s a bold strategy cotton….
I think Rise of Skywalker is the movie most affected by not taking risks and playing it so safe. They were so afraid of the fallout from Last Jedi, that they immediately pushed the emergency button and brought back Palpatine.
That was such a lazy move from Lucasfilm. They were better off just leaving Kylo Ren as the main antagonist and actually making him a threat for once. Or better yet, do a reverse turn (like they should have done in Last Jedi), where Rey joins the dark side (after learning shes a descendant of Palpatine) and Kylo turns good defeating her by the end of the film.
Literally anything would be better than the movie we got.
Chill out with the fanfiction
Yeah this might be the real answer. Rise of Skywalker suffered so much playing it safe.
《Once you start down the dunderheaded path, forever will it dominate your Destiny》
...Disney's Last Chance was "The Last Grumpy Jedi"...
...i beliEve the "Most Obvious Decision" for the Fate of Disney STAR WARS was botched 12 Years Ago when Bob Iger should have started making George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy...
...instead, Kathleen Kennedy was allowed to take a Risk by making "The Female Force Awakens"...?
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absolute waste to not show kenobi protect luke at all costs. in ANH he cuts someones arm off who tries to harm him with no hesitation. the show should have been about the determination and lengths he will go to protect Luke, maybe getting into themesof what is the jedi way and do the actions justify or is this a crisis of conscious. this show was just so disappointing
It's not a matter of risk. It's a matter of crap stories and not enough overarching plans and lack of editting.
The disney starwars is terrible.
Can we please move on from these Disney centered videos at least a little bit? The videos explaining actual lore like if the Jedi are right and what the force means are just much better imo.
For the record, I am done with Star Wars and all the channels!! That includes you Thor! Time to unfollow you!! Star Wars is dead!!
There is just no pleasing you fans
There's no pleasing the corporations either, at least not all the time.
Just saying.