Pilot's ILLEGAL Flight Kills Music Star Aaliyah!
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- An unqualified pilot's illegal flight killed Aaliyah and seven members of her entourage! This is the story of the lies that were told, the mistakes that were made, and the shocking truth about the illegal flight that killed the Queen of Urban Pop!
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It's INSANE how many holes in the swiss cheese had to line up for this tragedy to happen!
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I keep saying that if they just stopped putting the holes in the cheese none of this would ever happen. But here we are and still noone is listening... :(.
arrest isnt conviction ...but your the guilty till proven innocent type ...not saying he was innocent ...but you dont need to report till after seeing a judge
@@danbrit9848everyone should be innocent until proven guilty. To do otherwise is a really terrible idea. For obvious reasons. Lol.
I use the links of chain theory for accidents. By cutting a chain link you can avoid the accident. In this case it all started with and ended with the pilot.
thx hoover[ sorry don't know your real name] great vid. very interesting channel
As a passenger on some of these charter services, how in the hell are you supposed to know whether or not these carriers are up to par? Scary. People don’t write reviews unless they are angry.
As a former GA charter pilot, you're climbing aboard the lowest bidder. All GA charter companies are dodgy, they have to be to be competitive and there is no quality assurance oversight beyond regulators. Easy to get a third party to take care of that and pilots get told to do it or someone else will. The only good charter companies are ones with long term resource industry or government contracts.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan that’s terrifying😂 I don’t use them and have heard so many horror stories about them that I never will. But how can it go so seemingly unregulated? It’s like a buy here pay here car dealer. God knows what you are actually getting!
How do you know when you step on an Alaska Airlines 737 that Boeing has bolted the plug door in correctly?
You could try being human 🤷🏼♂️. Since flying is an unnatural act for anything but birds and an occasional squirrel you can’t really be surprised when things go wrong.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan I don't know how the FAA treats that issue, but as for EASA operators, I can only state that your claim is false.
I work for one of those GA operators, and I have been for a number of years now, both in a leading position on the ground as well as in the cockpit.
Yes there are shady companies, but regulators, the civil aviation authority and internal safety and compliance measures make sure far more than 90% of us GA operators fly within specs and to a commonly accepted safety level.
I had no idea Aaliyah were carried unconscious aboard the plane, and most likely were killed without ever waking. That is so messed up. :(
The people she trusted most killed her. That includes the bodyguard who died soon after the crash. He was asking about her before he passed. I hope they told him the truth.
I blame the A-Team. It was very clear that show promoted drugging people if they were nervous flyers. I can't remember how many times Mr T was drugged before being flown by Mudoch. So sad!
thats the way to go!
Up is EXACTLY where it is messed.
Imagine being a brand new starlet and already been plied with sedatives by "your" team.
Hoover, as a new pilot myself, I cannot stress enough how much your videos have helped me. I find myself constantly thinking back to things that you have said whenever I am flying to this day. I cannot wait for the next video!
Great to hear! Thanks!
That’s amazing!! So scary y’all didn’t have access to this info in this way til him. They should use his videos for trainings
@@Zzz2x I have a good CFI, but I really connect to how Hoover shares information.
His explanations on things made elements of flight school a little bit easier to digest. Not to mention, when I first found the channel, I played his videos religiously to/from training, listening as I drove.
I very quickly ran through them all and so I now wait for the next ones 😂😅
pls never say yes to whatever situation u think is bad even if its someone important and u risk losing job.
@@Zzz2xfact is Pilots do learn all these basic facts in their training and most of what Hoover does in most of his reviews is reveal how standard procedure was not followed. But you can never stop learning or get enough examples of what can go wrong when you don't follow procedures. We don't learn respect for all these procedures just through learning them as facts. It helps to hear stories of what can go wrong and put the fear in you to make darn sure you don't get sloppy.
I recall the crash so many years ago and that the pilot seemed to have been bullied into flying an overweight aircraft, but I didn't realize there was so much more to the story, thanks.
typical gaslighting "the victim who is actually the perpetrator"
Her crew members who bullied the pilot were the perpetrators, the pilot died, he was the victim as was the talented singer who was financing the whole thing…please stop gaslighting on the internet.. You’ve just demonstrated that you know the meaning of the word..
I remember that accident and was never told what caused it. Hoover you do a wonderful job at filling all of us in. Thank you
Seems blackhawk means we don't tell you sh*t.
22.5 years later 😄
what do you mean? I remember when it happened and everyone knew what caused it.
If memory serves me, it's been like forever ago, I believe the media was saying her luggage and weight of passengers was over the limit for this plane & subsequently caused the crash.
@3rdFloorblog Correct, the media narrative was mostly focused on the weight issue...too much weight.
The perfect storm of criminality, stupidity, neglect and sheer bad luck.
I don't think bad luck played much part.
There was no bad luck involved here, just bad decisions.
Insurance scam even Lenny kravitz send a plane the day before for Aaliyah
Her entourage bullied everyone from the pilot to her into flying that day. As much as the pilot is to blame for attempting this. He also argued the plane was overweight, but the entourage bullied him into flying. It was no "setting" that made them crash, they were horribly over weight.
They didn’t need bad luck. The criminality stupidity and neglect were more than enough.
"Aviation is not dangerous. Much like the sea, it is simply very unforgiving of any carelessness or neglect"
And it’s dangerous
@@lobsterblacc9478 No it isn't. Fools are dangerous.
@@Flies2FLL I would contend that if you cannot take a nap whilst doing something without any safety concern, it is inherently somewhat dangerous.
Driving - dangerous
Flying - dangerous
Listening to the wife - DANGEROUS!!!
@@jimhaney6384 Well, you have an extreme definition of dangerous.
Better stay away from bathtubs....
It’s not dangerous but fire and trauma are. She burned alive. One guy survived but died in Florida. If they dumped the fuel she would be alive but a paraplegic
I've been in the music business for over 40 years. Much of the every day decision making, logistics, etc is insane. There is a sense of invincibility when artists (and their people) reach a certain level. This was a certified dumpster fire from the start. Hoover, you gave a great analysis of the incident. By the way, I've also been a pilot for over 40 years - always striving to maintain good judgement.
Well, you've maintained both tasks for 40+ years, so I tip my hat to you, sir. I use the term task loosely.
I wish I could be a pilot. But I would never be responsible enough. I smoke weed too. It’s unfortunate I’ve heard cases of other pilots on this channel and elsewhere also being like me, or worse and taking drugs like cocaine.. idk how you can know that about yourself, and still decide to fly a huge ass plane being responsible for yourself, others, and possibly people you could crash into.
Happens with everything, one person passes it down to another and so on... Everything gets lost. How is one person able to focuso n those details when they have 'people' that are doing that already ... Just bad luck.
Is it normal to drug stars to make them do things they don't want to??
Well said
I shared this video with my students. I did fly charter for about three months from South Florida to the Bahamas, including Marsh Harbour. This accident has resonated with me since it happened back in 2001. Such a tragedy, but at least we can learn from it. Thank you for sharing.
2001? Damn! I was in a restaurant in Niagara Falls Canada when it happened, people in the restaurant started telling each other what happened, a buzz went through the whole place. It was a younger crowd and some young girls started crying. Man time goes so fast.
Did the flight covered the Bermuda Triangle?
Yes, but that had zero to do with the incident.@@Gargeler
Respectfully, what is there to learn? This pilot was a complete idiot, doesn’t take much to learn from that.
She was such a incredible "talent", "singer, actress". Remember her in movie "Romeo Must Die" heard about this terrible event.
It's crazy to think that this accident happened 2 weeks before 9/11
And ed mccafrey Christian mccafreys dad snapped his leg on MNF the day before and was never the same. None of us were after these events. I know that sounds trivial. But I'll never forget two people I really cared about as a fan were fucked up badly.
This happened when I was starting college and listened to Aaliyah from the beginning of her career. Hearing she made the decision not to fly but she was carried on anyway ....heartbreaking💔.
That’s not even true. Some random woman wrote that in a book and y’all ran with it.
Kanye for one spoke of how to become stars they have to accept handlers from the tribe that take away their autonomy.
I remember this crash well. I was a pilot down in Ft Lauderdale back then. This incident spread throughout the pilot community. Even the rampers in Marsh Harbor questioned the pilot regarding the weight.
Sad, very sad.
Cool I remember when Aaliyah passed away on that tragic day 😭😭😭 2001. I can imagine how you felt back then especially in Florida
This story is insane. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.
Its amazing how the holes in the Swiss cheese line up eh?
@@PWingert1966I think you have the wrong post. Cheese had nothing to do with this. Please pay attention to the story. If you are attention deficit, I can help. My rate plan is very reasonable.
@@randyg.7940 please take time to contemplate the alignment of holes. then consider the consequences of entropy on those holes both for yourself and others. Of course, It just might get cheesy if I continue to offer guidance as a whole hole consultancy.
@@randyg.7940 Are you Swiss? 🧀
I’ll never forget the day she died.. I cried at the mere circumstances surrounding the flight, for the initial survivors, for Aaliyah as it was known she hated flying, for her family, and for the thousands of people who mourned her death. It was such an avoidable accident.
I would not call it an accident. Everyone involved acted stupidly ... everyone. Taking a pill that renders you unconscious at 6:60pm while sitting in a taxi is stupid.
@@meFatuations Looks to me she was spiked, she thought she was getting a paracetamol and they gave her roipnol instead (or anything similar).
You cried for some popstar that you don’t know personally honestly that’s kind of pathetic. They sound like a bunch of stupid people that the world really is better without only person I feel bad for is the person I was smart enough to not get on the plane who is basically kidnapped and forced on the plane.
I got a biography about her a few weeks ago and it’s so hard to read knowing the inevitable. 😢
@@meFatuations Read my other comment, I think they got inspired by the A-Team and spiked her... when Moron meets Moron it never ends well...
Thank you for mentioning that Aaliyah was drugged. A lot of ppl leave that part out when discussing the incident.
There is no proof that she was drugged only trash magazines and videos like this are making such a claim, give over with your conspiracy theories.
You, me and nobody else except the people directly involved with that flight will ever know what happened except that it was overloaded at the very least, and a stupid google search is not evidence to the contrary
Because it’s not true.. and just he say she say.
@@user-nn2em6mm1ehow do you know it’s not true? By that logic you saying it’s not true isn’t true.
what!? I'm so confused how this pilot got this small aircraft overseas and into the Bahamas without any radio transmissions. That's so insane to me.
Her death was always sketchy in every aspect of it, just crazy
I'm expecting his conviction had something to do with it
Somebody got paid.
To hear that this beautiful girl was drugged and carried onto the plane unconscious is absolutely heartbreaking. What a sad story. I bet their families think of their lost loved ones everyday.
WHAT?!! I'M ONLY ABOUT 2 MINUTES in
Literally murder except they all died. What a crazy story.
This came out years later. So sad
Thats arguably not true. The person who came out with that story was 13 at the time of the accident.
@@suzannenichols6900it’s insane
Oh my - this adds a whole other level of tragedy to this! Aaliyah had all the right instincts about this flight but was abysmally failed by those around her who were supposed to be looking out for her.
Just imagine, on the news and in magazines, I NEVER recall hearing much about the pilot! It comes out years later. I heard Aaliyah did not want to film in the Bahamas and that the pilot was concerened about the weight on the plane. Nothing more.
@@KayDejaVuI remember hearing this back then.
I’m surprised,before 9/11 it was on tv constantly, also it was in the court docs when her family sued virgin records
yes, looking out for her..and not drugging her.
Her security team failed her.
I have already seen few videos of this tragic crash in the last few years, but none of them went so deep into the story.. you did an amazing job once again
Thank You so much for doing this video!
One of my instructors used this as an example of why you need to have he strength to walk away from a bad situation. I had not heard that Aaliyah had been drugged by her "friends" and carried aboard. That is truly wrong, but the Music Industry does not care about artists just the money.
She was an angel, so she trusted them and unfortunately they betrayed her 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
@@fra93ilgrande She was a victim of sex trafficking imo and secretly married R. Kelly while she was underaged, in a way it's a mercy she's gone knowing more about her life/story. On the flipside, a lot more people would have been in prison had she lived I think.
@@maskcollector6949 She had already gotten out of that relationship by the time of the accident. To say that her death was a mercy? What a terrible thing to say! She was 22 and had so much life left ahead of her!
What a tragedy! Thanks for the detailed debrief Hoover. Beyond all of the other issues you covered, the fact that Aaliyah was placed on this flight against her will while unconscious was something that really stuck out to me.
Agreed. And the worry that this dead "bodyguard " had for her post crash was just as tragic. He allowed her to be drugged into unconsciousness. And probably was the one to carry her on to the plane. He knew she didn't want to fly on that plane. His response to everyone there should have been, "That's it. No flight today!" But it wasn't. He failed at his primary job to protect her.
It was definitely a terrible tragedy!
Aaliyah failed at taking care of herself, but no one,is mentioning that. No one, and I mean no is giving me drugs without my consent and also knowing what the drug is that I might / she did take. Maybe not so adult after all.
@@TC-dw6wg You don't always know if someone has drugged you.Have you never heard of spiking?
@@TC-dw6wgyou won't know it's happened till its to late already. People are evil
I love that you are covering this! You so relatable on all fronts. Thank you.
Thanks for the details Hoover. I was unaware of how messed up this whole situation really was.
I did some CP work for a very famous musician. He was absolutely thorough in ensuring that any aircraft he flew on was top notch as was the pilot. If he ever got a bad ride he would never use that pilot again. He knew that many musicians met their death by ignoring aircraft safety.
CP typically = Child ?orn. Was it michael jackson? If you are not in your inner circle just type the dang words.....
Never say you’ve done CP work. Nobody cares what you think it stands for. Those letters are taken.
@@OkieDokieSmokierofl yeah CP is not a good one to use.
try 'child protection.'@@bend8353
What is CP work?
I remembered when this happened and have seen a lot of individuals discussing the tragedy. But I don’t recall ever hearing about the fact that she was drugged and carried onto the flight. Had to have been one of the two men. Bodyguard absolutely failed in his duties, even if he wasn’t the one to carry her aboard. The fact that she hadn’t willingly gotten on the plane makes this tragedy even worse.
Were you there? People make up stories for clout you know ?? We will never know if that’s true or not
That was my first thought, too. Based on this version of the story, the bodyguard was negligent. I understand the pressure he was under from the others who were eager to get moving, but still... On the other hand, it's hard to believe that they were all willing to carry their employer, unconscious, onto an airplane she didn't want to get on. Perhaps, there's more to the story...
@@Pretty_karma - well there is only 1 lady aside from Aaliyah, so the math is at least one or more of the people escorting Aliyah on the flight was a man, since it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for a woman to carry 120 lb-ish Aaliyah from the car, 10+ meters or more across the tarmac (the vehicle has to be parked away from the plane) up the steps of the aircraft and through the narrow doors... but i'm sure you already know this.
@@augustdaye2746 This sounds really sketchy. This whole thing looks like a setup designed to blame the pilot. Speculation at the time is she ran afoul of someone powerful and/or satanic. The owner may have been paid off, told the pilot that he was flying the other plane with more capacity, and messed up the engine mixture to guarantee that plane couldn’t get airborne.. Of all the pilots mistakes, his worst mistake was he was bad at math and it got them all killed. He was probably skilled and sober enough but failing to balance the plane meant he didn’t have the nose authority to level the plane so after crossing V2 he was doomed. Plus the fact she was terrified to get on the plane shows she sensed they were all in danger.
That’s such garbage. They sedated her at her behest. Like I know it’s fun to make men out to be brutish monsters but use your fucking brains for once
Sometimes flying commercial can save your life
Hey man, I just found your channel recently and, first, just wanted to say you're doing a great job. In particular, I really appreciate how you don't over-dramatize things, or milk the tragedies that you're discussing. I'm sure it probably costs you some views because sensationalism sells, but it's probably the thing I appreciate the most about your channel so far. Keep it up!
I didn't know Aliyah was forced on the plane after she refused.That makes it even more tragic and sad. 😢
What I can’t get over is the way Aaliyah’s entourage DEFIED her will on this and carried her onto a plane she specifically refused to board. I HATE people who not only think they know what’s best for a grown mentally competent adult but who physically force them to do something they’ve decided is not safe or good for them. This is disgusting narcissistic behavior. She died because others thought they knew better. And they didn’t. She was so young.
Unless they tied her up and dragged her onto the plane, she had the option of not getting on the flight.
@@bobbymoss6160this video said it so
@@bobbymoss6160 Do your research. Aaliyah was unconscious after her entourage gave her a sedative, then carried her against her prior will, onto the plane in an unconscious state. According to the coroner and it matches FAA investigative reports, she likely did not regain consciousness before the plane crash. Her crew killed her by opting to place on her on the flight after she refused. She had choice - right up until the minute they chose for her and she could not argue against it.
@Yourethemannowdawg Coroner and FAA investigative reports for one. It's online - do a little research before making such a statement. The full report can be downloaded via Scribd (for a trial free period), the attorneys representing her family Kreindler & Kreindler LLP have public record copies, the Aviation Safety Network, etc. All publicly accessible if you'd only take the time to research.
@@rdgSWwot What bodyguard allows his client to be drugged and taken on a plane against her will?
I love this channel! I look forward to your upload’s every Sunday!❤️✈️
Finding this channel was the best thing I did last week. It's like Air Crash Investigations but for not only airlines but GA. Wow, keep it up!! ❤
One of the first things they taught me in flight school, maybe THE first thing, was DON'T OVERLOAD THE TAIL! The nose won't drop in a stall like it's supposed to. The plane falls tail-down, passengers and cargo fall to the back, making things even worse, you go into a tailspin, and you can't pull out of it. Everybody dies. That's basic stuff.
lol
In RC planes there is a saying. A nose heavy plane flies poorly, a tail heavy plane only flies once.
Even HGVs have to be loaded properly to be safe. When I used to work loading/unloading HGVs, the driver always supervised, and decided what went where, to keep the weight low and even.
I want to thank you for reminding viewers that there were seven others who also lost their lives that day. These folks always seem to go under the radar of this tragedy.
You're right - the other victims in these tragedies are often forgotten!
@@pilot-debrief, as someone who wishes to get his private pilot certificate one day, I enjoy your videos! Thanks for being informative and interesting 🙂
Came to say this. Very important to highlight all the lives lost.
Even the one that drugged her.
@pilot-debrief Exactly I really appreciated that you show their picture and stressed their lives were as valuable
The fact nobody stopped that flight when someone unconscious was carried to the plane is wild. I feel like above all else that would be the BIGGEST red flag to get involved in anything
Great Research, full of facts not emotions or personal opinions. Thank you pilot Debrief as a part 91 pilot I always enjoy your content, keeping me aware.
Thank you for mentioning all the other people on the flight. Too often we only focus on the one rich/famous person and forget everyone else. Anyone know who else was on Payne Stewart's flight? Exactly.
Your content gets better every time. You always take time to acknowledge the human toll respectfully and with sensitivity.
Thank you for reviewing this ❤
Aaliyah was absolutely forced to her death the whole time That’s how horrific life is out there
Thanks for this debrief. I’m old enough to remember this happening. It’s not even an example of the Swiss cheese model, it’s an example of surrounding yourself with dishonest people. The blame is 100% on Aaliyah’s management team, which cut corners rather than looking out for her safety. RIP Aaliyah.
Aaliyah did not take care of herself! The “responsibility” (not blame, which is how a child deals with reality and how the world operates today) ultimately falls upon her. She hired all involved and if she gave them the power to make these decisions, the responsibility lies with her. If they did ignore her wishes, responsibility still falls on her……she kept these people on her team and I’m sure this was not the first time they ignored her wishes. Very sad scenario and need to include pilot who also allowed himself to be pushed around into attempting that flight.
No, the pilot was at fault from the first instance of accepting a non-flyable situation, ie., taking a too smaller aircraft.
@@asya9493 As I recall, the pilot argued with them about all the heavy equipment they were bringing along with them. Maybe the pilot thought he was transporting 8 people, and one had to sit in the co pilots seat. Not ideal, but doable. Not making excuses for the pilot, but maybe he didn't anticipate (2) 300 pounders and 600 lbs of speakers and technical gear that I understand was included. ( Pretty sure the pilot was not trying to expire that day as well, and probably didn't expect what confronted him. He did as reported fight with the crew about being overweight before relenting.
@@Stew5166 Yes, and a pilot must not 'argue', but instruct and direct. Or no one's going flying.
I will always remember being home and seeing the breaking news on MTV it was so sad. She was such a bright musical star at the time. This was just one tragic mistake after the other. This also happened right before the 9/11 tragedy. So her story was swept away for the bigger news at the time. Glad you are covering this story with just facts. Her light should never be dimmed.
youre not bothered about the others that died then ?
Her acting wasn't bad either. I mean, I didn't see any Oscars in her future, but I thought she did alright in "Romeo Must Die".
@@spongebobsquaretits WHAT A STUPID COMMENT!
@@wallyman292 She had a spark and Aaliyah opened the doors to artists like Rhianna today.
@@wallyman292I forgot she was in that. Good film
I think you get better with each video. Excellent analysis, and I am forwarding to a couple of people for them to watch.
I appreciate that! Thanks!
I was 19 at the time and had followed her career since her first album in '94? No one was protecting this young woman. 😢😢😢
Thank you for going over her crash
I remember this all too well because a close friend of mine, who used to be a singer (at the time of Aaliyah's death) was crying her eyes out when she found out.
After learning about what happened, I was incredibly angry because her entourage demanded to fly on that day. Apparently some other pilots heard the pilot arguing with the entourage and had he not had alcohol and drugs in his system, he could have said "no". But, then the entourage would have filed a complained and the pilot would have been found out. That must have been on his mind. It doesn't make any sense why he'd agree to fly in a smaller aircraft knowing that the aircraft was too small.
I've met a few 'A' listers and they're always down-to-Earth and polite. However, their friends and companions seem to think they're the best thing since sliced bread and act liked spoiled brats. Due to that, a beautiful singer was killed. It really angers me.
Very true, the "hangers-on" have killed more stars
new money VS old money
Earned money vs something glommed from others.
Beyoncé’s hairstylist spotted
Indeed - whatever the faults of the pilot (and they were many) the passengers should have listened to him. No way would I get on an aircraft when the pilot is telling me it isn't safe!
The horror of saying you wont get on a plane then get drugged and carried onto said plane. Then it crashes......
What a waste of life.
Whoever did that to her is really a murderer. The pilot is 100% responsible for all deaths, Blackhawk's owner shares like 95% of that responsibility for all deaths. Whoever drugged and carried Aaliyah 100% effectively murdered her in the name of "we gotta be there tonight".
Tell that persons family their loved ones life was a “waste”. Poor word choice.
@@CoraJean19Huh? It was a waste of valuable lives.
@CoraJean19 Can you read properly? The person was clearly saying that a life was needlessly taken away not that it was a waste. You seem to have a poor choice of an education.
@@CoraJean19
Reread the comment and ask yourself if you really think richardmcgowan thinks Aaliyah's life was a waste. (Or anyone else on the plane.)
You do a great job explaining things Hoover, keep it going.
I'm not a pilot but I was fascinated by your detailed videos! So interesting, so informative and easy to understand!
Great work!
I have heard of this tragedy for some time and I knew some details, but this is the most thorough explanation of the details that led up to this incident. Thanks for an excellent debrief, Hoover.
I commented similarly 👍
Awesome! That's my goal! Thanks!
I came across your channel by chance and I'm really enjoying your content. I always wanted to know the details behind what happened. Thanks for your thorough breakdown.
Welcome aboard!
Wow, I'm glad you covered this. Aaliyah was such an icon, and I remember being a kid seeing the news about this
I appreciate you showing the other victims and declaring them as all equals. This may be the only light to be shined on them. Bless all of them. Terrible loss.
Equals to what?
@@richardeast3328 that all humans be counted as equal.
The fact that they were being petty and insisting on the unsafe flight that killed them all makes me feel they were a bit less than equal. A good sane level headed person was drugged and killed bc of at least 1 of them, and all of them insisting on the flight to happen.
The only victim was the singer, the other ones are scumbags.
@@lusa3002 I see your point. Didn’t look at it that way. Good one.
Its very rare that i press the thumb like but this video deserves it...Ty for sharing
I appreciate that! Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for this. I had a friend on this flight and watching this provided additional closure for me. Keep up the great work!
This is nothing personal
Sorry for your loss and I'm glad this helped you get some more closure..
I would like to hear more about this. I think there's connections to the music industry, young people, and powerful people. Obviously, not much can be said on here and I don't expect anyone to tell me. But if u knew someone on this flight, u probably know what I'm talking about. Stay safe out there!
Hi Hoover, thank you for another detailed, well researched…but distressing video. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
You're welcome!
Just discovered your channel and it's some excellent work.
What a tragedy ... Thanks for your well elaborated debrief .
These videos are fascinating, albeit tragic. How you explain these tragedies from start to the fatal ending is superb.
Thank you, Hoover! Your presentations are edifying in the extreme. It never ceases to astound me, what people will knowingly do to themselves and their "friends". The commenters on your videos are very astute.
What’s shocking to me as a manager of multiple chartered fixed wing machines is how many times these completely illegal operators get found out in tragedies and how few we hear about getting caught on the ground before they kill their pax - what’s amazing to me is how difficult it is to cut even a single corner but operators like this leave no corner uncut and get away with it until people die. The idea of squeezing a flight for a Metro into a 402 and thinking it will be ok is astounding to me. There is almost not a single thing as it should be in this flight, how do you just decide to switch from a 404 to a 402???😮
If flew single pilot charters for 36 years with a very reputable company. In that time the feds would audit us relentlessly and watch over us with a magnifying glass so to speak! We had impeccable training and maintenance yet they chose to look the other way at other companies, some with very shady reputations. When asked, off the record why we were under such scrutiny the reply was always “ because you guys are the big guys and go by the book so if we make you do everything correctly the others will follow”. They knew that aside from some very minor audit findings their job was easy but if they dug into the shady companies they might have a difficult time ahead of them. So much for regulatory control. My guess is the owner of this charter company was well known to the FAA but was too small and too much paper work for the feds to bother with!
I remember this tragedy and the fact that the pilot was not qualified and had cheated...but all this long list of frauds, errors, you name them is simply unbelievable! Hoover you do a great job making all of us aware about flying safely , respecting the law, the regulations , etc. thank you.
He was qualified and he didn’t “cheat” , that was clearly explained in this TH-cam upload.. He was pressured into flying an overloaded plane which was correctly reported in the press at the time of the incident… He hadn’t gone over the check list that he was trained to do when he became qualified…Fraudulently falsifying his flight hours had nothing to do with the unfortunate out come of this incident..
Wow... and all they ever told us was "the plane was overweight".
That's a gross understatement, sounds like they really wanted to absolve Chacon of culpability.
He literally shared a news article headline from the time stating the pilot had coke and booze in his system. That doesn't sound like absolving him of culpability.
@@tsdobbi hi ding dong... I personally never heard that in the MSM reports back in the 90's in the U.S. because it was never reported on. Also, Chacon wasn't the pilot... he was the owner of the aircraft who as the surviving party would have been liable since, like Luis, didn't adhere to due diligence.
@@tsdobbi I also anecdotally recalled knowing that information not too long after the crash occurred and also found some 2002 articles to back it up
So sad to hear that we lost an amazing artist through a litany of errors and illegalities 😢
Well explained Hoover. You do an excellent job of narrating.
Thank you kindly!
I am a new subscriber. And Hoover !! I love your videos so much, I wish they were longer just because I enjoy watching them so much! You break it down the best in layman’s terms I appreciate that the most!! I love aviation & the education & lessons of it. The good, bad the beautiful & ugly , last but not least the happiness & sadness of tragedies of the journeys of aviation. So thank you for your videos time & effort in sharing your passion & knowledge of the big birds in the sky ✈️ ❤
Thanks for this one! I was at my grandmas funeral when I heard of this happening that day. I had just bought her new album for my sister weeks before. And just a couple weeks later we had 9/11! Was such a memorable period of my life.
35 year retired pilot. I spent time in south Florida doing Part 135 charters into Bahamas. South Florida had (has?) too many shade tree operations. I was familiar with a few. Very sad.
Your detailed information is very rewarding.. I can feel your humanity and compassion in every report. Thank you.
I truly appreciate your debriefs. You are so professional in your analyses and commentary. Thank you for this one in particular, Aaliyah was such a sensation. May all those passed away rest in peace.
Thanks Hoover your channel is definitely the best debrief .. You explain the details so others can understand 'What, why and how' this happened. Keep up the hard work that goes into your debrief and thanks again
Awesome! Thanks!
@@pilot-debriefIf you ever get a chance Melanie Thornton aka La Bouche.
Your videos are amazing. 👍
Thank you Hoover, for carefully and clearly explaining this tragedy; it amazes me how lax people can be. Flying is dangerous.
New subscriber. love your channel and your analysis...
This is a pilot debrief I really wanted to hear from you Hoover!! Great job!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been with this channel since wheels up. It just keeps getting better and better. I mentioned in an initial post how well-versed and articulate you are-- and enjoyable to listen to... literally the sound and cadence of your voice.
These slightly longer form explanations, imho, are your sweet spot. I'm not a pilot but many here no doubt are similarly situated as fascinated with flying [incident] lessons. Great Channel!
Glad to hear it and thanks for being a part of the channel since the beginning!
As always, I appreciate the thorough and authoritative way in which you provide the debriefing!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your comments and being so mindful. From Canada 🇨🇦
So glad that you reminded everyone that every person that perished on that flight was equally important.
I recall that in the initial days after this accident the story going around was that the pilot was pressured by Aaliyah and her team to fly the plane even when it was clearly past it's weight limitations. This initially put the most of the blame on Aaliyah and her team for "coercing" the pilot into flying in such a condition. Also I recall seeing some commentaries regarding what happened which again suggested that Aaliyah and her team should have listened to the pilot instead of being in a rush to get to where they where going. Now some decades after the crash -- the truth actually comes out that Aaliyah had nothing to do with the pressure being put on the pilot to fly. And in actuality Aaliyah had sense enough to refuse to fly -- but was forced to fly because she was drugged. In every way possible poor decisions made by everyone else aside from Aaliyah resulted in the tragedy. SMH.
@@MARKKY2727 After Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Britney Spears and the various hit and runs celebrities have gotten away with, its just as plausible she was drugged just to get her to shut up and get on the plane. People being treated poorly in the industry for the sake of money is nothing new.
The pilot's job was to refuse to fly that much overweight. But he didn't refuse.
@@MalcolmRuthven As Hoover mentioned, the guy was on drug, and he wasn't in the best position to refuse the flight, get a complaint and lose his job.
Everyone can act high an mighty criticizing others and say "What I would have done". But when pressure is coming from all front, we are only human.
I am not saying the Pilot is not at fault, but this scenario is "Everything that could go wrong went wrong".
I knew the circumstances surrounding this crash were messed up, but no clue how badly. Thanks for sharing this Hoover.
I really love your commentary. You are well versed and unbiased. I am almost addicted to your channel. God bless you for the work you do.
I’ve waited half my life for this! Thank you she was my celebrity crush growing up!
How many very talented artists have been killed in exactly this type of accident, with inexperienced pilots. Don't people who make the travel arrangements bother to check to see if crews are qualified? It's insane. Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens, along with legendary radio host the Big Bopper, Patsy Cline, Jim Reeves, Otis Redding (1967), Jim Croce (1973), Lynyrd Skynyrd (1977), Stevie Ray Vaughan (1990).
Jim Reeves crashed his own plane He did also kill Juan Manuel, a country music artist. And how about Kobi Bryant ? Was his pilot qualified to make your list? I think so, although he was highly experienced.
Tragic death if a star. Always a good career move.
@@latetotheparty184 No. He was not instrument qualified. He was flying passengers in VMC.
John Denver
If someone is a celebrity, there is apparently no shortage of inexperienced pilots willing to give it a go when they shouldn't.
Thank you for the great video! I had heard a bunch of different rumors about it. But it’s good to hear all the facts come out.
Thanks for watching!
I remember when this news came out. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for another interesting presentation.... I don't think I've heard so many “WRONGS" in one single aircraft crash.... How tragic for all the innocent people involved and their friends and families.... Roger.... Pembrokeshire UK
RIP to the victims.
Crazy I was thinking about this tragedy like 2 days ago, hoping this channel would someday make a video about it. Thank you PD.
PD?
@@K1OIK PD = Pilot Debrief
@@CGriffinGo I wonder what he did with the time he saves not typing ilot ebrief?
I had no idea about any of this… thought it was just weight and that someone from her team argued to ignore it. I didn’t know she was carried on to the plane passed out, either. That’s even scarier; but at least she died in her sleep? She was so pretty and had such an amazing voice. I also didn’t know some people survived the crash originally, awful way to go…
Love this Chanel!
Excellent summation
I remember when this happened, it didn't get a lot of news coverage beyond "Aaliyah was killed in a crash" I also remember the media blamed her saying she acted like a diva and insisted that the flight be overloaded when the Pilot told her that there were too many passengers and too much luggage for the flight to take place.
That's so disgusting and wrong when they in real life had to drug her to get her in the plane.
That’s so DISRESPECTFUL to her memory!!! 😢 how dared they?? 😡
Did not know all of these details. Great explanations.
Great breakdown!!
I have to say, this was an excellent video. Great content!
thats horrible the lack of respect for her, give her a pill then put her on a flight she already said she didnt want to be on, a beautiful and extremely talented woman gone because of others choices not her own, makes this all the more tragic.
How was Blackhawk International able to withhold the maintenance logbooks? Don't investigators have the ability to force aviation companies to provide them?
Money
Company was registered in the Bahamas by the looks.
Fawn Hall was workin' the shredder...
@@filthylucreonyoutube nice callback
@@filthylucreonyoutubeHow do you know who Fawn Hall is or was?
Thank you for naming the other passengers. I was a 7th grader when this happened and I don't remember ever hearing names, nor did I think about it. I hope that, with time, these families have been able to heal.
Absolutely loved her music and still do! Had no idea just how messed up the whole situation was ... just wow! Great debrief as always!
It’s so weird after seeing one of your videos for the first time the other day I was wondering if you had ever done a video about this. I feel like I manifested it lol. I remember watching the news break on MTV I was a Jr in high school. She was such a bright light and everyone felt like she was only getting stared. Such a devastating loss for everyone involved. I remember hearing years later about her being drugged and carried on the plane. The only peace I can take from that is she was a likely a sleep when it happened and hopefully didn’t feel any fear or pain.
PLEASE do a Debrief of Melanie Thornton and Passion Fruit’s plane crash in 2001. Crossair Flight 3597. Thanks in advance 🥰
The TV series Mayday covered that. The airline was growing too fast and hired any pilot they could find. Captain Hans Lutz was a real idiot, once did a sight seeing trip over Italy until one of the passengers noticed they were in Austria. The first officer called for a go-around when landing, Lutz ignored him and flew the plane straight into the ground.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossair_Flight_3597
@@dicksonfranssen I’m well aware of that. But I wanted Pilot Debrief to do his own breakdown
@@Laura_Luv_Ya Sorry, not trying to start an argument. It's hard enough for Hoover to find crashes most people have never heard of. If he did his own breakdown of Crossair 3597 someone will get nasty and comment about this crash already being covered. People (not you or me) will always find something to complain about. Life is too short to listen to these people. Have a good day.
If your going to pressure a TH-camr into making content for you, at least have the decency to watch it and thank them in the comments.. Thanking someone in advance is an extremely passive aggressive thing to do, it could be construed as on line bullying…
@@johneeeemarry34 Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. This is TH-cam. Either Pilot Debrief will take my recommendation and cover the story or he won’t. There’s no need for a psychological evaluation into my comment.