@@mikepohle2649 How many of those types of "fodders" have been defeated by Apoo, Hakiwngs, X-Drake, Bonney , Capone or Killer?.. none. Even a Tobbi Ropo could not be at the level of a Sweet commander.
@@erickr9733 come on let’s be serious here, I don’t even count snack as a sweet commander, 600mil bounty while being under big mom is nothing, that’s like being ussop or franky.. he can’t be compared to kata or cracker.. also, while not fighting a sweet commander, u can still scale some above that.. idk where u got apoo etc from since he didn’t name them.. he’d put him 6th, which would replace killer, and I think killers feats from wano are definitely better than beating fucking snack, a guy who got offscreened, that’s to show how trash he is
@@JW-ie8fryeah he didn’t tank it, he was literally crippled LMAO. Tanking means you’re fine, Kidd and Law(especially Kidd) were taking direct blows without blocking and getting up
@@TearsOfThem so it was just Kidd and Law that kept getting up? Damn I wish Zoro got up after that Hakai and helped Kidd and Law with Big Mom… oh wait….
Someone in the comments already said it but I had to make the list again bc this is really the perfect list for strength: 1. Luffy 2. Law 3. Zoro 4. Kidd 5. Sanji 6. Killer 7. Urouge 8. Drake 9. Apoo 10. Capone Bege 11. Bonney 12. Hawkins
i'm really interested with capone's devil fruit.. i'm just imagining him stuffing his castle with a bunch of giants then releasing all of them in mary geoise..
Zoro is not over Kid. that's just straight bias, and Bonney over Urouge is crazy. She might still be the weakest just based on experience despite the broken nature of her power.
Zoro literally had a better standing against a yonko 1v1 thank kidd in wano. Zoro is faster, just as durable, and has better AP now with acoc. Zoro > kidd but not by much. Don't get butthurt it's the king of hell and future right hand of the pirate king
@13wolter He literally didn't, though. Big Mom was consistently overpowered by Kid, be it with his Bull, Damned Punk or even Punk Gibson. Meanwhile, Zoros best attack Asura didn't even put Kaido down on one knee and mind you Luffy was able to do that with red roc. He tanked more as well between sovereignty, 9000 leagues, Fulgora, Mama Raid while taking constant head bashes from Hawkins and cuts from Killer. If you want to give him speed, sure? Ask yourself how much that matters when you're magnetized and stuck to a wall (bypassed Big Moms haki before you say something about Zoros haki) and no, just because he has ACOC doesnt put his AP higher.
I 100% agree with this ranking. Initially I debated putting Apoo over Bonney, but I reread the parts involving Apoo and realized so far he has done more than Bonney. Once more of the final saga progresses, I believe Bonney will surpass Apoo.
The only way to win against Law is speed and Haki (avoiding the room tricks and the shambles - Like Law himself says he cannot teleport Kaido or BigMom with his ability because of their immense Haki - .. or Like Doflamingo did(speed). But we cant be sure. Because if Law himself is fast enough.. I can't be sure if Zoro can withstand that broken hability of Law... I think right now Law >Zoro.
Pretty simple. Acoc Haki> Awakening. Law is a swordsman. Zoro will be top swordsman all time. Zoro has 1v1 win against a strong YC1 in King. Law has 0 1v1 wins of even a YC3 or higher. Even his 2v1 with Big Mom is questionable because they won by ring out. Zoro's is also a much more important character to the story and his main goal is strength related. Law's goal is not strength related. Zoro was also much more impressive on the Rooftop when u compare them against the same opponent.
Remember law couldn't move them away from the combo attack because big mom's and kaido's haki were too strong. Well same thing. Law doesn't have ACOC (yet)
Sorry but imagine putting a guy that is struggling with Rob lucci over someone who has already fought 3 emperors 😂 don't switch up when Law vs bb come out and it's a high diff
Law>Kid>Zoro=Sanji, idc what u say, maybe these things will change after Egghead, maybe during Law & Kid’s battle with BB and Shanks they’ve gotten stronger, and maybe Zoro & Sanji will beat up some old people in Egghead who knows
Basil Chickens is dead last. His fruit is trash. It's only useful for BEGINNER pirates who don't know how to block or dodge, so they let someone else take the hit for them. It would be worthless to Commander level pirates, who can use Haki.
Exactly, now that we know her real age is her inexperience in fighting should be a glaring weakness even if we say she has more raw power than some of the Supernova. There's no way guys like Hawkins can't take advantage of that.
this is exactly how I have it too, Bonney seems way too weak from her feats so far, and shes fkin 12 like it wouldn't make sense narratively for her to be stronger than characters like urouge drake and apoo. I also think that Bonney may get stronger maybe, not weaker
I don't know if I agree with Zoro over Kidd and Law. Two first commanders vs 1 yonko I'd still take the Yonko, so I feel like Kid and Law are firmly above 1st commander. Meanwhile although Zoro had broken bones and stuff, he took the medicine, so it should've been his peak version against King and he was struggling. Unless there are some feats in Egghead I would still put him a bit below those two, definitely below Law though.
@@ltsMotionZoro doesn’t have Yonko AP, his attacks are potent but on the base of overpowering or rivaling any Yonko is just lying Kaido never saw Zoro as a equal in any single way
Kid below zoro could be understandable coz he has very weak battle IQ. It was mostly Law's battle IQ when they were fighting against Big mom. And spoiler alert: we saw both law and kid vs BB and shanks. Law used his battle IQ to earn respect while kid embarrassed by charging blindly. However Zoro above law is a complete BS. law has better feats, better bounty growth, better recovery after each fight and also he is the friendly rival of the pirate king himself.
Completely agree with you on Apoo, I've always loved his design and weird DF powers, but Wano was where his stocks went up for me. The dude is clearly strong enough to keep getting himself out of cashing the checks his mouth writes. For a character that's such a backstabbing snake, he's surprisingly not a coward and ready to throw hands with anyone. Lets also not forget he's the one who leaked the Onigashima Raid info to Morgans, he's directly responsible for a lot of the problems the World Government are facing right now just to make a quick buck lol. He's earned his keep.
@@gaeron1305because a lot of people always felt it was kind of strange that Oda initially left him out of the group back in Sabaody. He’s basically the unofficial “Supernova that never was”
@@bdalaw they were in the same arc…their final opponents tell the story and even in this arc law has faced another yonkou…who is zoro up against? Kizaru’s fanboy
I like how Zorro fans actually believe Zorro is stronger 😂 No way he would have lasted as long against BB or even be able to defeat BM with Kid, like Law did. The fact Oda gave him a ridiculous fruit and ridiculous bounty, should tell us how he feels about Law...
I think there’s a bit of a misinterpretation of what Zoro went through after the rooftop. The drug that the minks provided to chopper to administer, heals the person to 100%. The side effect however was that the damage you received prior to drug doubles when the drug wears off. So according to Law Zoro had 20-30 broken bones, the pain from that doubles plus the damage he received from fighting King. That’s why zoro was on the brink of death and had to rest for a week. But I digress… Zoro showed up and showed out. However how devastating the punture wille was it’s hard pressed to put him over Law. The damage from Punture Wille created a crater that matched the crater that Luffy’s Bajrang gun created. And is one of the strongest attack we’ve seen in terms of destructive capability. Law then went on to fight Blackbeard (most have in their top 5) and do pretty well but Laws crew is just awful and they ended up losing.
I don't think many people have BB in top 5. They might have him in top 5 EOS. And Law did do pretty good, but the only reason he did as good was because they fought over water and Law had just awakened his df and BB did not know about it. Saying that it was difficult because Law had no help.
It’s hard to rank the current supernova based on power or strength. All of them have made amazing feats (yes, even Drake beating and enslaving Caribou and actually defeating a cp0 agent while freaking injured previously). If anything, Hawkins and Apoo are the most “underwhelming”.
Which CP0 member did drake defeat? The guy failed two take down a guy by surprise, izo fought 2 elite CP0 members while heavily injured and managed to take down one,, drake couldn't do same, the guy doesn't have any win in Onigashima
Even back then, I think Zoro was stronger than Law. I'm rewatching dressrosa and although law did good against doffy. When fujitora pinned law down he couldn't move. Not only did fujitora have to sent Zoro down like 3 stories into the ground, but Zoro was still able to move and threw a shot back. I also saw zoro cut pica in half again. But Zoro didn't cut pica in half he cut pica into like fourths. And Pica was literally multiple times bigger than Godzilla
You fans are delusional so Law who was fighting both Doffy and Fujitora at the same time ? You fantars do delusional it's crazy like how is that the same when he was fighting the whole arc whole Zoro was chilling
Due of One Piece history purposes, you are indeed wrong, more asteroids thrown at someone does not mean that Zoro is stronger than Law but rather that the One Piece high tiers are really crazy too just like the top tiers. And for One Piece logics, no matter the powerscaling and analysis, Law will always be depicted to be stronger than Zoro up until NOW, not for the rest of the story
@@animoments8969 Bro what's even the point yall still have law over someone who scarred the strongest character in wano so while law used the same technique on dragon form kaido so whats even the point
1: Luffy - Duh 2: Law - Ill just say, I think Law wouldve performed better against Rob Lucci 3: Zoro - My favorite chaarcter. Love him, but i dont think hes beating Law 4: Kidd - put respect on Kidds name 5: Sanji - Hes cracked, great defense, offense, and speed 6: Killer - He was actually blocking Kaidos attacks and managed to get a hit off 7: Urouge - Lack of feats sure, but I still think hes physically one of the strongest. 8: Bonney - Her DF is op. Shes not the best fighter, but her hax put her above everyone 9: Apoo - Good. His DF is easy to counter 10: X Drake - Hes not that bad guys. He was performing decently in Wano. 11: Hawkins - Hes pretty mid. Good DF and has hax, but other then that not much. 12: Capone - So what if he has a good defense. He cant do anything offensively
Capone being last fits with his portrayal as well in my opinion. He was afraid of a still recovering Nekomamushi in Zou, while the Tobiroppo, a group that every Supernova in Wano was shown to be around the same level of at the very least, were not afraid of the Scabbards.
@parmar__12 I'm sure Zoro beats in just pure stats like strength and speed, but Law wins in hax. He can teleport and fight at a distance, which is the worst-case scenario for Zoro. He's also not that much slower, so he wouldn't get blitzed. He's also so much smarter than Zoro and will likely know the best way to win is to fight at a distance. On top of that, most of his attacks bypass durability.
@@bomberdawesome worst case scenario for Zoro?? Law's teleportation has never been a problem for like anyone Who's not a giant with slow ass speed Doffy fucked him bad Kaido fucked him bad Zoro was cutting a lunarian and dragon kaido One acoc hit is all he need And Zoro has better reaction speed and attack speed than law Has better haki strength durable and endurance Your whole argument is law will switch places and be safe when that has never happened in whole series Everyone who's as strong as law has fucked him bad
@parmar__12 Law was not equal to Doffy and Kaido. Literally, every opponent Law has fought has been completely out of his league. Since Law and Zoro are close in power, his teleportation will come in handy. He was able to use it against Big Mom effectively, and yes, Big Mom is fast. She was relative in speed to base Kaido, and this was also her in base form. I'm sure base kaido is above King, and Zoro was equal to, if not slower, then King in pure travel speed. I know I said Zoro is faster, but honestly, they both have really respectable speed feats.
I feel like Dressrosa Law was too consumed by his emotions and too focused on the Misson/plan that he was unable to adapt to the various situations. I dont even think he even planned/wanted to survive against Doflamingo. as long as he was able to hurt Doffy in any way possible, in Law's mind, he won.
Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p zoro got a power boost after too so don't act like roof top zoro was the zoro that left wano. Personally, I place zoro above because zoro on rooftop out shun the other two, then that zoro was getting his ass kick by king. Then another power up that made him able to beat a guy who was overpowering him in three moves.
Brago law is above zoro, think about the lucci fight, zoro is still fighting lucci while luffy out here no diffed lucci and zoro was going at it with lucci, so i doubt zoro is stronger. law still beats zoro by a decent amount, Law went at it with big mom who should be close to G5.
You can't argue this ranking : 1. Luffy (MC) 2. Blackbeard (plot reason) 3. Zoro (Oda's favorite) 4. Law (Luffy's rival) 5. Kidd (Luffy's rival, not as loved as Law) 6. Sanji (Main character, top 4 popularity) The rest is whatever.
@@ryanmattioli9790 He is. Look at Oda's first manga, Zoro is a copy of that Manga MC. Then look at Zoro's treatment throughout the series. Or if you want to see it another way, notice how Oda didn't even give Zoro an actual flaws.
Your memeing. You put drake and hawkins 12-11 arguing that they do nothing, even when they show up in Wano, AND THEN YOU PUT at position 9 put uruge who LITERALY DID NOTHING IN THIS WORLD. Too much memeing bro.
I FEEL SO SAD TO SAY THIS I LOVE ZORO(AND SANJI ALSO THEY R MY FAV CHARACTERS) B U T I think he wont be ranking higher than Kidd and Law JUST in this list ZORO SANJI MY FAV FOREVER STILL YOU KNOW😂
Honestly, the original list was pretty close given what little info there was. Also I think Sanji and Zoro are equal and Kid and Law are equal (Oda is just bad at showing it), with Kid and Law being slightly over Zoro and Sanji. By the end of Egghead I could see Law and Kid being surpassed
11 former Warlords vs the 12 worst gen. Dubbles cancel each other out like Law and BB and anyone else if i missed them out. I think it favours the WL but i haven't given it enough thought.
Bege in big father is highkey cracked. Took multiple punches from Big Mom when commanders get taken out by like 2 hits. Urouge this high because he forced Kaido to jump of the sky island🔥
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening? If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd Then why not Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
Kidd's fruit is OP, he just isn't very creative with it. He mostly just slams you with metal constructs. He reminds me of the John Stewart Green Lantern.
Gotta give the edge to law over zoro considering how far he pushed bb and his crew basically solo and what Zoro is currently doing to a lucci that got whomped by luffy. Also I think urouge is stronger considering he beat a sweet commander Bonney rn isn’t that strong but can easily be a top 5 in a short time if she starts learning her powers and trains
Zoro is currently using Niitoryu on Lucci without asura. Law went straight into awakening. And we still haven't seen Zoro use Asura and KoH together. Zoro still clears.
@@ZaneBlalock but again, one is Blackbeard and multiple crew members. The other is Lucci who already got beaten tf up. We don’t know what’s been going on in the majority of the fight but unless zoro claps him easily when using stronger moves then imo it’s an antifeat for zoro
@@Jaeriel still less bad than shanks fans. There was a poll a while back on how many admirals shanks could beat. A ton of ppl voted all 3 of admirals. Like no amount of reasoning could even begin to explain that lol
@@Dax_MaclaineLucci is yc1 level he's not pushover And law didn't do shit to bb with his crew That's an excuse Bb figta people alone when has he jumped anyone who's alone?
1. Luffy 2. Law too big of a bag 3. Zoro 4. Kid 5. Sanji honestly wanna put him at 4 but i know if they were to fight oda would make kid win 6. Urouge dude beat a commander and then got away. Idk if killer beating a commander 7. Killer 8. Apoo can do more damage then you would think 9. Bege because he tanked alot from big mom and because hes on the smarter side and plans things 10. Drake he kept getting jumped and he was also higher ranked then Hawkins 11. hawkins he is just a dude with extra lives 12. bonney potential she is up around 6 but i dont think she has shown haki. Her df has weaknesses like saturn said. Aging on others probably is like other where it doesnt work if haki is being used. She is also the least experienced fighter cuz she is young. I mean if bonney was older and had more training she probably would body a commander just not yet.
@flameemperor8317 my thing is sanji was worried about everything other then his fight with queen. Then even after his power up he was just running away. Like sanji dropped queen so fast that if right after his powerup instead of being grabbed and broken he could have just easily dropped queen. All the damage and fatigue he took was because of himself. Do i think sanji in a strength context with kid wins no but his body should be stronger and he is fast af. Which kid seems to struggle fighting fast characters. So sanji should beat his ass but if they fought for the story and kid being a luffy rival sanji should lose
@@34KIN I completely agree. I usually put Zoro and Sanji right next to each other in terms of over all ability which I know is a controversial take in this community these days lol
Trafalgar law have serious damage during punk hazard and after that he fought doflamingo and fujitora without enough rest that's why he's strong during wano coz he has lots of rest atleast before the battle
1. Monkey D. Luffy 2. Trafalgar Law (actually hurt 2 Emperors) 3. Eustass « Useless » Kid (damn punk can one shot Zoro or simply take away his swords) 4. Roronoa Zoro (Give him the benefit of the doubt although he’s still fighting Lucci ? Nah) 5. Vinsmoke Sanji 6. Urouge (took out Snack) 7. Killer 8. Jewelry Bonney (the girl can turn into Gear 5th any minute now that she’s seen it) 9. Capone Bege 10. X-Drake 11. Basil Hawkins (straw isn’t really handy in combat) 12. Scatchman Apoo (his df was useless once they figured it out. Basically anyone above can take him out)
Have you read the manga? Haki is above everything so Kid could never take away Zoro's swords (even in sabaody he couldnt) Also Zoro has Acoc and has the speed to hit Kid before he activates his damn punk. Zoro is easily top 3 supernova, maybe even top 2.
@@rjve424 Zoro didn’t show that level of haki sorry. Haki transcends all yes but Zoro hasn’t showed the ability to neutralize df powers. The only one that has is Law. The only person that has the speed to hit Kid during prep is Shanks. Kid can just use Assign to immobilize Zoro for 10s. That attack was even powerful enough to hold BM back
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening? If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd Then why not Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
This is what's known as Recency Bias. Bonney is the weakest Supernova and I would put her at 12 under Sanji. She has done absolutely nothing to deserve this ranking.
I agree with the comments saying Urouge should've been higher. I also say Narrative/headcanon is the only thing saving Kid. I definitely don't see how he beats Sanji at this point besides believing Oda is still saving him for something. A couple Yrs ago I use to have to argue folks Zoro> Kid/Law. Glad folks are coming around to it 😈💯.. Zoro to me in Wano ultimately proved he was the 2nd supernova behind Luffy
Kids awakening is Dura neg+ speed negation considering he can turn anybody into a magnet without even touching them. Plus considering his feats (being beaten on by killer, hawkins, and big mom at the same time and still fighting) it’s pretty clear he can take any punishment sanji can dish out
@@kingmanga8575It's so dumb how everybody shits on Kid, because he lost to Shanks. People forget all he did in Wano. Kid is not trash...Agenda Piece is real
@@eldrickemc4602 What you gonna do about it people are braindeads they think characters are feauds when they get beaten by one of THE strongest fighter in OP. 😂
But regardless of that it was obvious that laws contribution to the defeat was more plus big mom was an imbecile who completely underestimated ppl. But I know for sure Kidd ain’t momentarily blocking a combined yonko attack which is what zoro did. He momentarily blocked one of the most deadly attacks shown in the series.
Easy men easy did u watch rooftop ? I believe not all of captain was like crazy surprise when he take that hit from both yonkous and I am not saying nothing about the rest couse is wasting of time law is super powerfull but Zoro come on men Zoro is Zoro he is now like close to luffy strenght well he was always like 49/51 Zoro/luffy and now with all of haki on 2lvl just like luffy what are we even try to talk about and just try imagine what fck monster he will become in the end of series i believe he is like almost as strong as raileigh now well luffy is already stronger after elbaf i will be surprise if he don't fight yet with mihawk ...
@@michaluczak650 Zoro is close to Luffy in strength? 49/51?!! The same guy who’s been fighting Lucci for 8 weeks strait? Wake me up when he actually knocks down a Yonko. The Monster Zoro will be at the end of the series won’t be in the top five, may be lucky to make the Top 10 depending on who lives and who dies.
Kidd just got done dirty by Oda, hyping him up in the SBS and then nothing comes from it. He is the character that gets bent over to let other characters shine imo, like come on, CONFIRMED COQ user and he is not even knocking out the fodder????? Oda dropped the ball on Kidd and kept bouncing
Drake is not even a pirate, Urouge sleeps a lot, Apoo likes to hide behind big names, Bonney goes to her own personal missions by herself and not with her crew. Law, Luffy, Kidd and Blackbeard are the only ones who actually did something.
BDA I had a real hard time agreeing with Zoro being over Kid and Law especially considering how absolutely broken both of their DF are. But after thinking it over if haki truly does trump all then he’s over them for sure. Advanced conquerors puts Zoro in a league only a few legends in the story have ever reached. I pictured Zoro having a really hard time dealing with the craftiness of Laws abilities in a 1v1 but then I thought back to how dirty Doflamingo did Law and I can see how Zoro would come out on top
Why wouldn't Law or Kidd acknowledge Luffys subordinate being stronger than them???? No mention no reaction and they still view themselves as Luffys rival???? Never say "damn strawhat even has Zoro under him, he's just as strong as me or stronger" Why would they never even acknowledge Zoro as their equal or rival himself and only his Captain who they again still have a rivalry with Luffy only severely gapped them in Wano by having Haki and Awakening bloom Kidd and law only have Awakenings no Haki bloom And Zoro has only Haki bloom so he seems to be on their level as people think Haki is sooooo much over Df cause kaido said it But for people with HAKI AND DF its different What do you think will happen after law and kids lost to yonkos like Luffy did to kiado, HAKI BLOOM
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p i agree that a haki bloom would probably put them over zoro but they don't have it yet and by the time they get it in the story zoro would probably be admiral lvl since the story is now shifting to focus on the straw hats growth
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening? If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd Then why not Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
@@AdarshShetty-ux8kd brah feats alone aren't everything and the Blocking for a few seconds feat is impressive but not as much as what Luffy and Law/Kidd do later due to context... DO YOU THINK Luffy would not be able to do the same as Zoro if he HAD to the point is any of them could've probably held it off temporarily like he did but they would've died the same way he would've if Law didn't teleport them Zoro just made that sacrifice
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p what are you smoking I already said Zoro blocking that attack was his armament haki feat and I agree luffy's feats were better but law/kid case was completely different Bigmom was heavily nerfed by plot+ law or kidd didn't had required ap to put down bm+they didn't even beated her using their own strength, they just made her fall on lava+bigmom even stopped herself from falling into lava but she was unlucky because bombs near her exploded then she fell to surface On the other hand heavily nerfed prekoh acoc Zoro performed better than pre awakening law/kidd Koh Zoro was making a fucking lunarian block his attacks even when his flames are on
I hear you and your list make total sense given how broken Law and Kid’s DF abilities are but I don’t think Kid or Law could stop an advanced conquerors attack from Zoro and that’s the only thing that puts him above them imo. Look what Shanks’s Devine Departure did to Kid. Zoro has attacks on that same scale, he also has the durability to take that shot head on and still be able to fight. Let’s not forget him blocking a combined Kiado and Big Mom attack and still being able to fire back afterwards. The story tells us that his is most definitely stronger than Kid and Law
Exactly Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
Saying Kidd and Laww are 3/4 and Sanji and Zoro are 5/2 is like saying Sanji and Zoro could defeat Big Mom. That ain't happening. Kidd / Law > Zoro > Killer > Sanji
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening? If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd Then why not Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
@@beast5450 lol i am impressed by your powerscaling knowledge Do you take online powerscaling courses? Clown comparing heavily nerfed+prekoh zoro's feats to awakening law's feats If you want fair comparison then compare roofpiece Zoro's feats to roofpiece law's feats What you just said makes Awakening law>roofpiece Zoro And I already know that My debate was koh Zoro>>awakening law
@@AdarshShetty-ux8kdhe gave Kaido a really small scar and didn’t even bring him to his knees. Yamato and Luffy were doing that in their base forms. Scars don’t amount much if that’s all your power LMAO. That was a free shot with Zoro’s best move. Shit didn’t move Kaido
Luffy Zoro Kid/Law(interchangeable for me depending on the day lol just because of Conqueror's Haki Kid has) Sanji (i like Sanji being here) Killer Apoo Drake/Hawkins (Drake probably a little stronger but Hawkins would give him trouble) Urogue Bege Bonney
Drake is a tobiropo so his already a higher tier then apoo as the beast pirates are a hierarchy of strength but apoo lotterally tried escaping the cp0 agents while drake fought both of them then got no diff by them later apoo ctahing luffy and zoro off guard it no impressive
Apoo was an information dealer. We don't even know if he was shooting for a Tobi Ropo spot. And Apoo got a lot of damage before those fights, mainly by Kid and Zoro, two top Supernova. And him running from CP0 is just good strategy lol
You know I don’t understand how people have zoro over law and kidd Oda made it very clear Luffy fought a yonko by himself(1) Law and kidd fought a yonko together as equals(2 and 3) Zoro and sanji fought the YC1/2 respectively (4 and 5) And don’t forget Zoro had a miracle drug that put him at 100% so we know exactly where he caps at rn
Zoro outperformed them on rooftop being MVP or luffy scarring kaido a bigger feat than breaking big moms hand and tank a attack from 2 yonkos conquest of sea and had like 20 to 30 bones broken luffy and everyone else thought it was over and im a sanji fan 🤷🏽♂️law you could argue because he did get stronger after fighting Blackbeard making it a high diff fight and prob got jumped if it’s wano zoro on top if it’s after law edit also that ain’t koh zoro
Put it like this Zoro, Kid or Law wouldn’t be able to take down Big Mom in a 1v1 fight but without a doubt Zoro does more damage to her 1v1 than Kid or Law could. And I’m not totally convinced that Kid or Law could defeat King in a 1v1 and Zoro did
@@demarienhall the fact of the matter is zoro went extreme diff against a YC1 and in this case the gap between King and kaido/BM is HUGE. Don’t forget BM and Kaido on the rooftop were sandbagging they didn’t bring out their real strength until their personal fights Portrayal also matters. On the rooftop law-luffy-kidd are shown to be mostly equals(not including the awakenings law and Kidd already had)
@@demarienhall I will give zoro his 10s for the rooftop performance but the convo does need to be had on what he could even do against Kidd and law’s kits He can’t out haki laws abilities cause even on the rooftop before law showed his awakening his attacks could still hit kaido and BM he just couldn’t do the dumb hax like shambles and other bs. What is zoro gonna do when law starts tagging him from long range and teleporting across the field. Kidd is an endurance demon and had bigmom running from his attacks because of the damage they were dealing and he hadn’t even brung out his strongest attack yet. To reiterate Zoro went extreme diff against YC1 after getting a full revive and a haki bloom Law and kidd went extreme diff against a yonko after getting beat to death on the roof top(kid was getting slice and diced by killer/hawkins) no haki blooms No random devil fruit power ups. The people they were on the rooftop were the same people they were during the BM fight. You want me to think Zoro is gonna beat them??? Da hell he gonna do against a puncture willie? A damned punk? Cause he def ain’t dodging it mr “I get tagged by a full beast form beak cannon”
Top 5 for me Luffy Law Kid Zoro Sanji Luffy is on a tier of his own, Law and Kid are either on the same tier based on their feats against Big Mom or Law is in a higher tier in between Luffy and Kid if you take Law’s feats on Winner Island compared to Kid vs Shanks….which is a weird comparison but matching Haki amped Gura Quakes is a better feat than anyone on this list besides maybe G5 Luffy’s final attack (Gura is the strongest Paramecia AP wise) Sanji and Zoro are on the same tier but for different reasons. Each is superior in different stats, but as for overall scaling, Zoro extreme diffed Kaido’s number 2 before pulling out a one shot technique like all his main fights, Sanji mid diffed Kaido’s number 3. Same formula they had since Alabasta though Zoro’s feats on the rooftop make people think he’s way over Sanji, which I could see if people read/watch at surface level
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Was kid nerfed by the plot post wano or was he buffed by the plot on onigashima?
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@@ianodhiambo1wano plot
@@seekknowledgeinYah😂
Urouge defeated a sweet commander and then survived (even if by running away) a fight with another. I think he has to be at least 6th on the list
Exactly, everyone seems to forget that.
Thing is snack is fodder, so that’s not a crazy feat
@@mikepohle2649 How many of those types of "fodders" have been defeated by Apoo, Hakiwngs, X-Drake, Bonney , Capone or Killer?.. none. Even a Tobbi Ropo could not be at the level of a Sweet commander.
@@erickr9733 come on let’s be serious here, I don’t even count snack as a sweet commander, 600mil bounty while being under big mom is nothing, that’s like being ussop or franky.. he can’t be compared to kata or cracker.. also, while not fighting a sweet commander, u can still scale some above that.. idk where u got apoo etc from since he didn’t name them.. he’d put him 6th, which would replace killer, and I think killers feats from wano are definitely better than beating fucking snack, a guy who got offscreened, that’s to show how trash he is
@@mikepohle2649Yonko commanders aren’t fodder?…
1 Luffy
2 Sabo
3 Law
4 Zoro
5 Kidd
6 Sanji
Zoro is 4 and law is 2 the fact that kid and law can tank blows from a yonko and zoro is just not there
Zoro didn’t tank an attack from any yonko then I guess?
What show you watching lil bro he tanked more then both of them compared
@@JW-ie8frhe blocked for a moment and broke all his bones still impressive but wouldn’t say tank
@@JW-ie8fryeah he didn’t tank it, he was literally crippled LMAO. Tanking means you’re fine, Kidd and Law(especially Kidd) were taking direct blows without blocking and getting up
@@TearsOfThem so it was just Kidd and Law that kept getting up?
Damn I wish Zoro got up after that Hakai and helped Kidd and Law with Big Mom… oh wait….
Someone in the comments already said it but I had to make the list again bc this is really the perfect list for strength:
1. Luffy
2. Law
3. Zoro
4. Kidd
5. Sanji
6. Killer
7. Urouge
8. Drake
9. Apoo
10. Capone Bege
11. Bonney
12. Hawkins
i'm really interested with capone's devil fruit.. i'm just imagining him stuffing his castle with a bunch of giants then releasing all of them in mary geoise..
Zoro is not over Kid. that's just straight bias, and Bonney over Urouge is crazy.
She might still be the weakest just based on experience despite the broken nature of her power.
Buddy you must be high,it's ok to be wrong though. Bda list is the accurate list of power. Nothing he said is controversial,you guys are just blind
@thurxs5166 You're entitled to your wrong opinions.
Zoro literally had a better standing against a yonko 1v1 thank kidd in wano. Zoro is faster, just as durable, and has better AP now with acoc. Zoro > kidd but not by much. Don't get butthurt it's the king of hell and future right hand of the pirate king
@13wolter He literally didn't, though. Big Mom was consistently overpowered by Kid, be it with his Bull, Damned Punk or even Punk Gibson. Meanwhile, Zoros best attack Asura didn't even put Kaido down on one knee and mind you Luffy was able to do that with red roc.
He tanked more as well between sovereignty, 9000 leagues, Fulgora, Mama Raid while taking constant head bashes from Hawkins and cuts from Killer.
If you want to give him speed, sure? Ask yourself how much that matters when you're magnetized and stuck to a wall (bypassed Big Moms haki before you say something about Zoros haki) and no, just because he has ACOC doesnt put his AP higher.
@@13wolter zoro got better standing compare to holding back Kid and law .
I 100% agree with this ranking. Initially I debated putting Apoo over Bonney, but I reread the parts involving Apoo and realized so far he has done more than Bonney. Once more of the final saga progresses, I believe Bonney will surpass Apoo.
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Law
4. Kid
5. Urouge
6. Sanji
7. Jinbe
8. Cavendish
9. Killer
10. Apoo
11. Bepo(in Sulong above Killer, possibly Cavendish)
12. Barto
13. X Drake
14. Bege
14. Bonney
15. Hawkins
dam..now i'm wondering who wins between Sulong Bepo and Hakuba Cavendish...
Luffy, law, kidd, zoro, Sanji
Brago..im not going to let you compare Basil Hawkins to Brandon Jennings rookie year lol
10:13 “HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SCHWALLLOOOOWWEDD UP” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1. luffy
2. law
3. kidd
4. zoro
5. sanji
6. killer
7. urouge
8. bonney
9. drake
10. apoo
11. hawkins
12. bege
Oh yes the bonney age thing made people upset....
Post 1106
Luffy
Law
Zoro
Bonney ( buggy effect )
Kid
Urouge
Drake
Killer
Apooo
Hawkins
Bege
Bege misplaced. Id bet he can defeat Hawkins, Apoo and Killer in "1v1".
W for putting Sanji in it. He rly deserved that title, but is doesn't rly matter, cause he is stronger than 70% of them
i dont know how is Zorro winning against Law someone would have to explain that to me in detail?
Law has black tattoos
The only way to win against Law is speed and Haki (avoiding the room tricks and the shambles - Like Law himself says he cannot teleport Kaido or BigMom with his ability because of their immense Haki - .. or Like Doflamingo did(speed). But we cant be sure. Because if Law himself is fast enough.. I can't be sure if Zoro can withstand that broken hability of Law... I think right now Law >Zoro.
Pretty simple. Acoc Haki> Awakening. Law is a swordsman. Zoro will be top swordsman all time. Zoro has 1v1 win against a strong YC1 in King. Law has 0 1v1 wins of even a YC3 or higher. Even his 2v1 with Big Mom is questionable because they won by ring out. Zoro's is also a much more important character to the story and his main goal is strength related. Law's goal is not strength related. Zoro was also much more impressive on the Rooftop when u compare them against the same opponent.
Zorro?
Remember law couldn't move them away from the combo attack because big mom's and kaido's haki were too strong. Well same thing. Law doesn't have ACOC (yet)
Sorry but imagine putting a guy that is struggling with Rob lucci over someone who has already fought 3 emperors 😂 don't switch up when Law vs bb come out and it's a high diff
The Tyreke Evans comparison was on point. I will not stand for the Brandon Jennings slander however.
Law>Kid>Zoro=Sanji, idc what u say, maybe these things will change after Egghead, maybe during Law & Kid’s battle with BB and Shanks they’ve gotten stronger, and maybe Zoro & Sanji will beat up some old people in Egghead who knows
The recency bias with Bonney is crazy ngl she hasnt beat anyone of note i would not even rank her over someone like Capone or even Hawkins
Basil Chickens is dead last.
His fruit is trash. It's only useful for BEGINNER pirates who don't know how to block or dodge, so they let someone else take the hit for them. It would be worthless to Commander level pirates, who can use Haki.
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe She's super tanky for a kid, but Bege is demonstrably even tankier.
Exactly, now that we know her real age is her inexperience in fighting should be a glaring weakness even if we say she has more raw power than some of the Supernova. There's no way guys like Hawkins can't take advantage of that.
I dont really see how she beats anyone experienced like Xdrake tbf the only supernova i can see her beat is Apoo
I think it’s less based on bias and more on the fact she can copy df ability’s.
People giving her nika mode way to much credit.
This feels like a character thing more than strength tbh
For me ranking is like luffy, law, Zoro, kidd, sanji, killer, uruge, drake, apoo, capone bege, boney, hawkins
Literally a perfect list
this is exactly how I have it too, Bonney seems way too weak from her feats so far, and shes fkin 12 like it wouldn't make sense narratively for her to be stronger than characters like urouge drake and apoo. I also think that Bonney may get stronger maybe, not weaker
Bonney under sanji makes more sense
Kidd or Law below Zoro is insane
@@goldcreeper7376Kidd is the ferret counter to Zoro he’ll just use his fruit and take zeros swords.
I don't know if I agree with Zoro over Kidd and Law. Two first commanders vs 1 yonko I'd still take the Yonko, so I feel like Kid and Law are firmly above 1st commander. Meanwhile although Zoro had broken bones and stuff, he took the medicine, so it should've been his peak version against King and he was struggling. Unless there are some feats in Egghead I would still put him a bit below those two, definitely below Law though.
Zoro clearly is physically stronger and faster can last in a fight longer and has almost yonko level ap, haxs ain't raw power
@@ltsMotionZoro doesn’t have Yonko AP, his attacks are potent but on the base of overpowering or rivaling any Yonko is just lying
Kaido never saw Zoro as a equal in any single way
Kid below zoro could be understandable coz he has very weak battle IQ. It was mostly Law's battle IQ when they were fighting against Big mom. And spoiler alert: we saw both law and kid vs BB and shanks. Law used his battle IQ to earn respect while kid embarrassed by charging blindly. However Zoro above law is a complete BS. law has better feats, better bounty growth, better recovery after each fight and also he is the friendly rival of the pirate king himself.
@@ltsMotionZoro has the worst stamina
@@TearsOfThemhe never saw kid or traf as like that either then in your case
Completely agree with you on Apoo, I've always loved his design and weird DF powers, but Wano was where his stocks went up for me. The dude is clearly strong enough to keep getting himself out of cashing the checks his mouth writes. For a character that's such a backstabbing snake, he's surprisingly not a coward and ready to throw hands with anyone. Lets also not forget he's the one who leaked the Onigashima Raid info to Morgans, he's directly responsible for a lot of the problems the World Government are facing right now just to make a quick buck lol. He's earned his keep.
Why didn't he make it into the Tobbiroppo then?
@@JT-km6th he's allied with the beast pirates not part of them.
Sanji fans are currently in Shambles.
Nah they not that boy sanji chilling lol
Sanji is fine. As usual Sanji lives rent free in everyone's head and jumps on him
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I don't understand why add him in a supernova discussion.
@@gaeron1305because a lot of people always felt it was kind of strange that Oda initially left him out of the group back in Sabaody. He’s basically the unofficial “Supernova that never was”
Putting zoro above law is just wild 😂
I think the opposite
@@bdalaw they were in the same arc…their final opponents tell the story and even in this arc law has faced another yonkou…who is zoro up against? Kizaru’s fanboy
@@bankin3119read chapter 1110 .
Law was in AWE at zoros feats on the rooftop. Then zoro got even stronger after that.
It’s pretty clear zoro is a stronger character.
@@CodemanDBZ even kaido was impressed…are we scaling zoro above him too?
I like how Zorro fans actually believe Zorro is stronger 😂
No way he would have lasted as long against BB or even be able to defeat BM with Kid, like Law did.
The fact Oda gave him a ridiculous fruit and ridiculous bounty, should tell us how he feels about Law...
Cry 😂
law clears zoro lil bro
No
I think there’s a bit of a misinterpretation of what Zoro went through after the rooftop. The drug that the minks provided to chopper to administer, heals the person to 100%. The side effect however was that the damage you received prior to drug doubles when the drug wears off. So according to Law Zoro had 20-30 broken bones, the pain from that doubles plus the damage he received from fighting King. That’s why zoro was on the brink of death and had to rest for a week. But I digress…
Zoro showed up and showed out. However how devastating the punture wille was it’s hard pressed to put him over Law. The damage from Punture Wille created a crater that matched the crater that Luffy’s Bajrang gun created. And is one of the strongest attack we’ve seen in terms of destructive capability. Law then went on to fight Blackbeard (most have in their top 5) and do pretty well but Laws crew is just awful and they ended up losing.
I don't think many people have BB in top 5. They might have him in top 5 EOS. And Law did do pretty good, but the only reason he did as good was because they fought over water and Law had just awakened his df and BB did not know about it. Saying that it was difficult because Law had no help.
It’s hard to rank the current supernova based on power or strength. All of them have made amazing feats (yes, even Drake beating and enslaving Caribou and actually defeating a cp0 agent while freaking injured previously). If anything, Hawkins and Apoo are the most “underwhelming”.
Which CP0 member did drake defeat? The guy failed two take down a guy by surprise, izo fought 2 elite CP0 members while heavily injured and managed to take down one,, drake couldn't do same, the guy doesn't have any win in Onigashima
Drake did not beat cp0
I look at Eustass Kidd as Luffy without Plot Armor. Idk if Zoro is as strong as Kidd or Law that's a tough 1 but it's close.
Even back then, I think Zoro was stronger than Law. I'm rewatching dressrosa and although law did good against doffy. When fujitora pinned law down he couldn't move. Not only did fujitora have to sent Zoro down like 3 stories into the ground, but Zoro was still able to move and threw a shot back. I also saw zoro cut pica in half again. But Zoro didn't cut pica in half he cut pica into like fourths. And Pica was literally multiple times bigger than Godzilla
You fans are delusional so Law who was fighting both Doffy and Fujitora at the same time ? You fantars do delusional it's crazy like how is that the same when he was fighting the whole arc whole Zoro was chilling
@@pitoseavy4523fighting?? You call that fighting?
Due of One Piece history purposes, you are indeed wrong, more asteroids thrown at someone does not mean that Zoro is stronger than Law but rather that the One Piece high tiers are really crazy too just like the top tiers. And for One Piece logics, no matter the powerscaling and analysis, Law will always be depicted to be stronger than Zoro up until NOW, not for the rest of the story
Zorro wouldnt have done anything against mingo. Law damaged his organs with that gamma knife. Doffy only lived because of plot.
@@animoments8969 Bro what's even the point yall still have law over someone who scarred the strongest character in wano so while law used the same technique on dragon form kaido so whats even the point
As a bucks fan, the Brandon Jennings thing was nuts. I'm 31 btw so I remember the Jennings phenomenon.
Fr as a fellow bucks fan that hit too close to home😂
Luffy
Kid = law
Zoro
Drake
Appo
Killer
Urouge
Capone
Hawkins
Bonney
1: Luffy - Duh
2: Law - Ill just say, I think Law wouldve performed better against Rob Lucci
3: Zoro - My favorite chaarcter. Love him, but i dont think hes beating Law
4: Kidd - put respect on Kidds name
5: Sanji - Hes cracked, great defense, offense, and speed
6: Killer - He was actually blocking Kaidos attacks and managed to get a hit off
7: Urouge - Lack of feats sure, but I still think hes physically one of the strongest.
8: Bonney - Her DF is op. Shes not the best fighter, but her hax put her above everyone
9: Apoo - Good. His DF is easy to counter
10: X Drake - Hes not that bad guys. He was performing decently in Wano.
11: Hawkins - Hes pretty mid. Good DF and has hax, but other then that not much.
12: Capone - So what if he has a good defense. He cant do anything offensively
Capone being last fits with his portrayal as well in my opinion. He was afraid of a still recovering Nekomamushi in Zou, while the Tobiroppo, a group that every Supernova in Wano was shown to be around the same level of at the very least, were not afraid of the Scabbards.
Zoro high diffs law
@parmar__12 I'm sure Zoro beats in just pure stats like strength and speed, but Law wins in hax. He can teleport and fight at a distance, which is the worst-case scenario for Zoro. He's also not that much slower, so he wouldn't get blitzed. He's also so much smarter than Zoro and will likely know the best way to win is to fight at a distance. On top of that, most of his attacks bypass durability.
@@bomberdawesome worst case scenario for Zoro??
Law's teleportation has never been a problem for like anyone
Who's not a giant with slow ass speed
Doffy fucked him bad
Kaido fucked him bad
Zoro was cutting a lunarian and dragon kaido
One acoc hit is all he need
And Zoro has better reaction speed and attack speed than law
Has better haki strength durable and endurance
Your whole argument is law will switch places and be safe when that has never happened in whole series
Everyone who's as strong as law has fucked him bad
@parmar__12 Law was not equal to Doffy and Kaido. Literally, every opponent Law has fought has been completely out of his league. Since Law and Zoro are close in power, his teleportation will come in handy. He was able to use it against Big Mom effectively, and yes, Big Mom is fast. She was relative in speed to base Kaido, and this was also her in base form. I'm sure base kaido is above King, and Zoro was equal to, if not slower, then King in pure travel speed. I know I said Zoro is faster, but honestly, they both have really respectable speed feats.
I feel like Dressrosa Law was too consumed by his emotions and too focused on the Misson/plan that he was unable to adapt to the various situations. I dont even think he even planned/wanted to survive against Doflamingo. as long as he was able to hurt Doffy in any way possible, in Law's mind, he won.
Doffy also knew all his secrets and he was on the back foot for most of the arc.
Law is the only one to fight an admiral and a shichibukai solo snd hold his own. Those fights pushed his haki to the max.
@@damegulley Fax
Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE
Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out
This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p zoro got a power boost after too so don't act like roof top zoro was the zoro that left wano. Personally, I place zoro above because zoro on rooftop out shun the other two, then that zoro was getting his ass kick by king. Then another power up that made him able to beat a guy who was overpowering him in three moves.
Brago law is above zoro, think about the lucci fight, zoro is still fighting lucci while luffy out here no diffed lucci and zoro was going at it with lucci, so i doubt zoro is stronger. law still beats zoro by a decent amount, Law went at it with big mom who should be close to G5.
Nahh ODA obviously just stalling Zoro just because no power scaling opportunity there
You can't argue this ranking :
1. Luffy (MC)
2. Blackbeard (plot reason)
3. Zoro (Oda's favorite)
4. Law (Luffy's rival)
5. Kidd (Luffy's rival, not as loved as Law)
6. Sanji (Main character, top 4 popularity)
The rest is whatever.
Zoro is not odas favorite 😭
@@ryanmattioli9790 He is. Look at Oda's first manga, Zoro is a copy of that Manga MC. Then look at Zoro's treatment throughout the series.
Or if you want to see it another way, notice how Oda didn't even give Zoro an actual flaws.
you forgot shanks oda golden boy
Blackbeard isn’t a supernova
Neither is sanji@@Juicersen
Your memeing. You put drake and hawkins 12-11 arguing that they do nothing, even when they show up in Wano, AND THEN YOU PUT at position 9 put uruge who LITERALY DID NOTHING IN THIS WORLD. Too much memeing bro.
Urouge defeated a sweet commander and then went to go fight another. Thats waaaaaaaaaay better than everything those 2 did combined
Law vs zoro aint a debate cuz zoro would end up dying by the time he by some plot devices beat sanji
Zoro mid doffs sanji then high diffs law
@@parmar__12 actual brainrot right here, mid diff sanji is crazy. Yeah he could beat sanji but mid diff??
I FEEL SO SAD TO SAY THIS I LOVE ZORO(AND SANJI ALSO THEY R MY FAV CHARACTERS)
B U T
I think he wont be ranking higher than Kidd and Law JUST in this list
ZORO SANJI MY FAV FOREVER STILL YOU KNOW😂
Its weird adding Sanji when he is not a supernova. feels like forced beg
I always add him in for people like you
@@bdalaw 😂 but i don't even hate Sanji, this is a supernova situation right? He was left out of the 12 for a reason 💀
@@piccoloblack Cope
@@NATUREFACEOFF you got it lil bro
@@bdalawcmon brago the fact you had to add him in says it all
Honestly, the original list was pretty close given what little info there was. Also I think Sanji and Zoro are equal and Kid and Law are equal (Oda is just bad at showing it), with Kid and Law being slightly over Zoro and Sanji. By the end of Egghead I could see Law and Kid being surpassed
I dont Think Zoro could go Toe to toe with BB like law did.
11 former Warlords vs the 12 worst gen.
Dubbles cancel each other out like Law and BB and anyone else if i missed them out.
I think it favours the WL but i haven't given it enough thought.
My ranking would be
Luffy
Zoro
Law
Kid
Sanji
Killer
Urouge
Bege
Apoo
Hawkins
Bonney
L-Drake
Bege in big father is highkey cracked. Took multiple punches from Big Mom when commanders get taken out by like 2 hits.
Urouge this high because he forced Kaido to jump of the sky island🔥
@@TheRanOfGodI thought kaido jumped willingly? I remember someone praying for him even. Idk tho
@Mr_B_last yeah Urouge just witnessed it.
@@TheRanOfGodhe never forced kaido to jump loooooool
@@Rude242Oda told me that Kaido actually got kinda scared by Urouges haki and felt the need to jump of the sky island. Trust me bro
Law > Zoro easily, Kidd+Zoro ain't got shit on Big Mom
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP
What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening?
If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd
Then why not
Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
Kidd doesn't have a mentor , doesn't have D in his name or overpowered DF. Only is Will bring him all this way up S\O Eustass
Kidd's fruit is OP, he just isn't very creative with it. He mostly just slams you with metal constructs. He reminds me of the John Stewart Green Lantern.
@@joeblow7464you expect him to be a engineering genius he’s not that smart but still does amazing with it
@@adariushorton7870 His engineering skills are actually really good, that's not the problem. He doesn't fully manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum.
@@joeblow7464that’s Oda nerfing him
The only right list
1. Luffy
2. Law
3. Zolo
4.Sanjitaro
5. Urouge
6. Killa
7. Apoo
8. Bege
9. Cawkins
10. "Bonney chan" - 🧑🍳
11. Drake
Cringe
@@Erik75893 cringe person.
Gotta give the edge to law over zoro considering how far he pushed bb and his crew basically solo and what Zoro is currently doing to a lucci that got whomped by luffy.
Also I think urouge is stronger considering he beat a sweet commander
Bonney rn isn’t that strong but can easily be a top 5 in a short time if she starts learning her powers and trains
Zoro is currently using Niitoryu on Lucci without asura.
Law went straight into awakening.
And we still haven't seen Zoro use Asura and KoH together. Zoro still clears.
@@ZaneBlalock but again, one is Blackbeard and multiple crew members. The other is Lucci who already got beaten tf up. We don’t know what’s been going on in the majority of the fight but unless zoro claps him easily when using stronger moves then imo it’s an antifeat for zoro
@@Dax_Maclaine you will never win against zoro fans, they could see him get his head chopped and still would say he wins the fight.
@@Jaeriel still less bad than shanks fans. There was a poll a while back on how many admirals shanks could beat. A ton of ppl voted all 3 of admirals. Like no amount of reasoning could even begin to explain that lol
@@Dax_MaclaineLucci is yc1 level he's not pushover
And law didn't do shit to bb with his crew
That's an excuse
Bb figta people alone when has he jumped anyone who's alone?
Luffy
Zoro
Law
Sanji
Kidd
Mad Monk
Killer
Apoo
Drake
Hawkins
Bege
Bonney
1. Luffy
2. Law too big of a bag
3. Zoro
4. Kid
5. Sanji honestly wanna put him at 4 but i know if they were to fight oda would make kid win
6. Urouge dude beat a commander and then got away. Idk if killer beating a commander
7. Killer
8. Apoo can do more damage then you would think
9. Bege because he tanked alot from big mom and because hes on the smarter side and plans things
10. Drake he kept getting jumped and he was also higher ranked then Hawkins
11. hawkins he is just a dude with extra lives
12. bonney potential she is up around 6 but i dont think she has shown haki. Her df has weaknesses like saturn said. Aging on others probably is like other where it doesnt work if haki is being used. She is also the least experienced fighter cuz she is young. I mean if bonney was older and had more training she probably would body a commander just not yet.
I think the problem with Scaling Sanji is that his moveset/advantages are too unique to him. We can't directly compare him to anyone else.
@flameemperor8317 my thing is sanji was worried about everything other then his fight with queen. Then even after his power up he was just running away. Like sanji dropped queen so fast that if right after his powerup instead of being grabbed and broken he could have just easily dropped queen. All the damage and fatigue he took was because of himself. Do i think sanji in a strength context with kid wins no but his body should be stronger and he is fast af. Which kid seems to struggle fighting fast characters. So sanji should beat his ass but if they fought for the story and kid being a luffy rival sanji should lose
@@34KIN I completely agree. I usually put Zoro and Sanji right next to each other in terms of over all ability which I know is a controversial take in this community these days lol
Trafalgar law have serious damage during punk hazard and after that he fought doflamingo and fujitora without enough rest that's why he's strong during wano coz he has lots of rest atleast before the battle
What is this recency bias Bonney agenda! No haki feat! York low difs her no cap
1. Monkey D. Luffy
2. Trafalgar Law (actually hurt 2 Emperors)
3. Eustass « Useless » Kid (damn punk can one shot Zoro or simply take away his swords)
4. Roronoa Zoro (Give him the benefit of the doubt although he’s still fighting Lucci ? Nah)
5. Vinsmoke Sanji
6. Urouge (took out Snack)
7. Killer
8. Jewelry Bonney (the girl can turn into Gear 5th any minute now that she’s seen it)
9. Capone Bege
10. X-Drake
11. Basil Hawkins (straw isn’t really handy in combat)
12. Scatchman Apoo (his df was useless once they figured it out. Basically anyone above can take him out)
Have you read the manga? Haki is above everything so Kid could never take away Zoro's swords (even in sabaody he couldnt) Also Zoro has Acoc and has the speed to hit Kid before he activates his damn punk. Zoro is easily top 3 supernova, maybe even top 2.
@@rjve424 Zoro didn’t show that level of haki sorry. Haki transcends all yes but Zoro hasn’t showed the ability to neutralize df powers. The only one that has is Law. The only person that has the speed to hit Kid during prep is Shanks. Kid can just use Assign to immobilize Zoro for 10s. That attack was even powerful enough to hold BM back
@@rjve424 awakening was never countered by haki
@@nobody42071bro do you honestly think law someone who doesn't have acoc the highest level of haki has better haki than someone who does?
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP
What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening?
If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd
Then why not
Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE
Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out
This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
My ranking
Luffy
Law
Kid
Zoro
Sanji
Urouge
Killer
Appo
Hawkin
X-Drake
Zoro over Law and Kid is the most biased AGENDA
This is what's known as Recency Bias. Bonney is the weakest Supernova and I would put her at 12 under Sanji. She has done absolutely nothing to deserve this ranking.
Law/Kid > Zoro.
Zoro is strong but not that much
Zoro over law is crazy and Kid over Sanji is even crazier but W listing for the rest
bonney is deffo weakest lets not be silly. she doesnt beat any of them 1v1
Zoro > Law for sure. He woulda cut BB in half with the flying dragon blaze 🤫
I've been saying Xdrake was lame from day 1
Zoro is stronger than law and kid make no sense here
Aint no way you put kidd under zoro and law
Blackbeard (tied 1st)
Luffy (tied 1st)
Wob Wucci (tied 2nd)
Sabo (tied 2nd)
Law 3rd
Zoro (tied 4th)
Sanji (tied 4th)
Yamato
Kid
Urogue
Kaku
Cavendish
Capone
Apoo
Bartolomeo
Killer
Bonney
Hawkins
X Drake
Forgot Killer and Blackbeard- they were both included in the supernovas (aka worst generation)
Killer is there. Supernova and worst generation are different.
I agree with the comments saying Urouge should've been higher. I also say Narrative/headcanon is the only thing saving Kid. I definitely don't see how he beats Sanji at this point besides believing Oda is still saving him for something.
A couple Yrs ago I use to have to argue folks Zoro> Kid/Law. Glad folks are coming around to it 😈💯.. Zoro to me in Wano ultimately proved he was the 2nd supernova behind Luffy
Kids awakening is Dura neg+ speed negation considering he can turn anybody into a magnet without even touching them.
Plus considering his feats (being beaten on by killer, hawkins, and big mom at the same time and still fighting) it’s pretty clear he can take any punishment sanji can dish out
@@kingmanga8575It's so dumb how everybody shits on Kid, because he lost to Shanks. People forget all he did in Wano. Kid is not trash...Agenda Piece is real
@@eldrickemc4602 What you gonna do about it people are braindeads they think characters are feauds when they get beaten by one of THE strongest fighter in OP. 😂
Either Sanji and Zoro are both below Kid and Law or they are both above, personally I think they are below.
Lol u got kidd over zoro? Nah bruh I can’t agree with that. Those zoro feats are borderline main character energy 🤣
@@Rude242 did zoro take down a yonko?
@@idiatico is this the same kidd that questioned if kaido could’ve gotten Injured 😭?
But regardless of that it was obvious that laws contribution to the defeat was more plus big mom was an imbecile who completely underestimated ppl. But I know for sure Kidd ain’t momentarily blocking a combined yonko attack which is what zoro did. He momentarily blocked one of the most deadly attacks shown in the series.
@@idiaticoDid kid take down a yonko? Kid got the assist and don't forget he thanked zoro for saving his life 😂
Xdrake in Wano was disappointing 🫠
ZORO OVER LAW????
Wild ish smh
Zoro is him
Easy men easy did u watch rooftop ? I believe not all of captain was like crazy surprise when he take that hit from both yonkous and I am not saying nothing about the rest couse is wasting of time law is super powerfull but Zoro come on men Zoro is Zoro he is now like close to luffy strenght well he was always like 49/51 Zoro/luffy and now with all of haki on 2lvl just like luffy what are we even try to talk about and just try imagine what fck monster he will become in the end of series i believe he is like almost as strong as raileigh now well luffy is already stronger after elbaf i will be surprise if he don't fight yet with mihawk ...
@@michaluczak650 Zoro is close to Luffy in strength? 49/51?!! The same guy who’s been fighting Lucci for 8 weeks strait? Wake me up when he actually knocks down a Yonko. The Monster Zoro will be at the end of the series won’t be in the top five, may be lucky to make the Top 10 depending on who lives and who dies.
@@greywarden5513 how you comparing real world time to op time
Drake below apoo is CRAZY
What u talking about it is not period i don't see Drake beating apoo no way ..
Kidd just got done dirty by Oda, hyping him up in the SBS and then nothing comes from it.
He is the character that gets bent over to let other characters shine imo, like come on, CONFIRMED COQ user and he is not even knocking out the fodder?????
Oda dropped the ball on Kidd and kept bouncing
1.luffy
2.Blackbeard
3.law
4.zoro
5.urouge
6.Bonney
7.the rest
In no way is Zorro stronger than Law lmao
Why the fuck is Sanji here
Because zoro is in the discussion and sanji fans have an unhealthy obsession with zoro that they’ll never admit
@@kingmanga8575 true
Because I want him to be
@@kingmanga8575I’m a Zoro fan. See how your dumbass argument falls apart
@@bdalaw sheesh brago getting spicy
Ain't no way zoro is doing shiz to law.
Hmm, Zoro over Kidd and Law was definitely not what I was expecting. Wonder where he would rate King is he was included.
Sanji is not a supernova for a reason!
1 Luffy
2 Law
3 Kidd
Drake is not even a pirate, Urouge sleeps a lot, Apoo likes to hide behind big names, Bonney goes to her own personal missions by herself and not with her crew. Law, Luffy, Kidd and Blackbeard are the only ones who actually did something.
didn't urouge defeat a sweet general during the time skip bro
exactly, at the very least he should be above Apoo and Bonney
BDA I had a real hard time agreeing with Zoro being over Kid and Law especially considering how absolutely broken both of their DF are. But after thinking it over if haki truly does trump all then he’s over them for sure. Advanced conquerors puts Zoro in a league only a few legends in the story have ever reached. I pictured Zoro having a really hard time dealing with the craftiness of Laws abilities in a 1v1 but then I thought back to how dirty Doflamingo did Law and I can see how Zoro would come out on top
Why wouldn't Law or Kidd acknowledge Luffys subordinate being stronger than them????
No mention no reaction and they still view themselves as Luffys rival???? Never say "damn strawhat even has Zoro under him, he's just as strong as me or stronger"
Why would they never even acknowledge Zoro as their equal or rival himself and only his Captain who they again still have a rivalry with
Luffy only severely gapped them in Wano by having Haki and Awakening bloom
Kidd and law only have Awakenings no Haki bloom
And Zoro has only Haki bloom so he seems to be on their level as people think Haki is sooooo much over Df cause kaido said it
But for people with HAKI AND DF its different
What do you think will happen after law and kids lost to yonkos like Luffy did to kiado, HAKI BLOOM
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p i agree that a haki bloom would probably put them over zoro but they don't have it yet and by the time they get it in the story zoro would probably be admiral lvl since the story is now shifting to focus on the straw hats growth
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP
What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening?
If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd
Then why not
Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
@@AdarshShetty-ux8kd brah feats alone aren't everything and the Blocking for a few seconds feat is impressive but not as much as what Luffy and Law/Kidd do later due to context... DO YOU THINK Luffy would not be able to do the same as Zoro if he HAD to the point is any of them could've probably held it off temporarily like he did but they would've died the same way he would've if Law didn't teleport them Zoro just made that sacrifice
@@ShaquanDavis-l8p what are you smoking
I already said Zoro blocking that attack was his armament haki feat and I agree luffy's feats were better but law/kid case was completely different
Bigmom was heavily nerfed by plot+ law or kidd didn't had required ap to put down bm+they didn't even beated her using their own strength, they just made her fall on lava+bigmom even stopped herself from falling into lava but she was unlucky because bombs near her exploded then she fell to surface
On the other hand heavily nerfed prekoh acoc Zoro performed better than pre awakening law/kidd
Koh Zoro was making a fucking lunarian block his attacks even when his flames are on
Blackbeard is the only character that has all 3 titles: worst generation, warlord, and yonkou …law and luffy only had 2
1.Luffy
2.Law
3.Kid
4.Zoro
5.Sanji
6.Killer
7.Bonney
I hear you and your list make total sense given how broken Law and Kid’s DF abilities are but I don’t think Kid or Law could stop an advanced conquerors attack from Zoro and that’s the only thing that puts him above them imo. Look what Shanks’s Devine Departure did to Kid. Zoro has attacks on that same scale, he also has the durability to take that shot head on and still be able to fight. Let’s not forget him blocking a combined Kiado and Big Mom attack and still being able to fire back afterwards. The story tells us that his is most definitely stronger than Kid and Law
Law is over zoro, zoro had a high def fight with a right hand commander
Did you forget what happened on the roof top?... and the moment he fully controlled his haki and learnt king was... well colored it was no diff
What????
@@forsterjurgen
Man get Sanji out of here 😹
Kidd is stronger than Zoro.
Na tf he’s not 😂😂😂. Bruh haki is everything
Zoro is at 4 🤷🏽♂️ below Kid n Law and it’s clear as day if you actually watch one piece
I think this the problem with a lot of One Piece fans and you guys don’t even realize it
Bro ur watching the wrong piece 🤣🤣 if u say tht
@@1roe11 Did Zoro defeat a yonko?
I don't get why the community meat ride zoro so hard
@@currycowboy neither did Kidd and Law...they got a BM out of bounds victory and hit her with an island bomb 🤡
Exactly Law and Kidd DIDN'T USE THEIR AWAKENINGs ON ROOF PIECE
Zoro only preformed better than everyone because he was literally using 100%of his power at the time whereas Law and Kidd were holding out
This is the only reason people keep saying Zoro is stronger than them and it needs to stop
Zoro over Law !
sanji is last.
Nah law at 3 is crazy
He should be at 2.
@@greywarden5513 big fax
Zoro getting challenged by Lucci 😢
Saying Kidd and Laww are 3/4 and Sanji and Zoro are 5/2 is like saying Sanji and Zoro could defeat Big Mom. That ain't happening. Kidd / Law > Zoro > Killer > Sanji
i sorta agree w/this .. i have killer stronger than what people think
Zoro gave permanent scar to a yonko in a halfdead state+blocked arguably strongest attack in the series BEFORE GETTING HIS POWERUP
What shits law or kidd did before using their awakening?
If pre powerup Zoro>pre powerup law/kidd
Then why not
Koh Zoro>awakening law/kidd
@@AdarshShetty-ux8kd
Zoro scarred a yonko
Kidd / Laww defeated a Yonko
Kidd / Law > Zoro
@@beast5450 lol i am impressed by your powerscaling knowledge
Do you take online powerscaling courses?
Clown comparing heavily nerfed+prekoh zoro's feats to awakening law's feats
If you want fair comparison then compare roofpiece Zoro's feats to roofpiece law's feats
What you just said makes
Awakening law>roofpiece Zoro
And I already know that
My debate was koh Zoro>>awakening law
@@AdarshShetty-ux8kdhe gave Kaido a really small scar and didn’t even bring him to his knees. Yamato and Luffy were doing that in their base forms. Scars don’t amount much if that’s all your power LMAO. That was a free shot with Zoro’s best move. Shit didn’t move Kaido
Putting apoo over Drake is insanity he defeated one of the numbers in one blow similar to gear 4 luffy
Luffy
Zoro
Kid/Law(interchangeable for me depending on the day lol just because of Conqueror's Haki Kid has)
Sanji (i like Sanji being here)
Killer
Apoo
Drake/Hawkins (Drake probably a little stronger but Hawkins would give him trouble)
Urogue
Bege
Bonney
Drake is a tobiropo so his already a higher tier then apoo as the beast pirates are a hierarchy of strength but apoo lotterally tried escaping the cp0 agents while drake fought both of them then got no diff by them later apoo ctahing luffy and zoro off guard it no impressive
Apoo was an information dealer. We don't even know if he was shooting for a Tobi Ropo spot. And Apoo got a lot of damage before those fights, mainly by Kid and Zoro, two top Supernova. And him running from CP0 is just good strategy lol
You know I don’t understand how people have zoro over law and kidd
Oda made it very clear
Luffy fought a yonko by himself(1)
Law and kidd fought a yonko together as equals(2 and 3)
Zoro and sanji fought the YC1/2 respectively (4 and 5)
And don’t forget Zoro had a miracle drug that put him at 100% so we know exactly where he caps at rn
Yeah very clear
Zoro outperformed them on rooftop being MVP or luffy scarring kaido a bigger feat than breaking big moms hand and tank a attack from 2 yonkos conquest of sea and had like 20 to 30 bones broken luffy and everyone else thought it was over and im a sanji fan 🤷🏽♂️law you could argue because he did get stronger after fighting Blackbeard making it a high diff fight and prob got jumped if it’s wano zoro on top if it’s after law edit also that ain’t koh zoro
Put it like this Zoro, Kid or Law wouldn’t be able to take down Big Mom in a 1v1 fight but without a doubt Zoro does more damage to her 1v1 than Kid or Law could. And I’m not totally convinced that Kid or Law could defeat King in a 1v1 and Zoro did
@@demarienhall the fact of the matter is zoro went extreme diff against a YC1 and in this case the gap between King and kaido/BM is HUGE.
Don’t forget BM and Kaido on the rooftop were sandbagging they didn’t bring out their real strength until their personal fights
Portrayal also matters. On the rooftop law-luffy-kidd are shown to be mostly equals(not including the awakenings law and Kidd already had)
@@demarienhall I will give zoro his 10s for the rooftop performance but the convo does need to be had on what he could even do against Kidd and law’s kits
He can’t out haki laws abilities cause even on the rooftop before law showed his awakening his attacks could still hit kaido and BM he just couldn’t do the dumb hax like shambles and other bs. What is zoro gonna do when law starts tagging him from long range and teleporting across the field.
Kidd is an endurance demon and had bigmom running from his attacks because of the damage they were dealing and he hadn’t even brung out his strongest attack yet.
To reiterate Zoro went extreme diff against YC1 after getting a full revive and a haki bloom
Law and kidd went extreme diff against a yonko after getting beat to death on the roof top(kid was getting slice and diced by killer/hawkins) no haki blooms
No random devil fruit power ups. The people they were on the rooftop were the same people they were during the BM fight. You want me to think Zoro is gonna beat them???
Da hell he gonna do against a puncture willie? A damned punk? Cause he def ain’t dodging it mr “I get tagged by a full beast form beak cannon”
Top 5 for me
Luffy
Law
Kid
Zoro
Sanji
Luffy is on a tier of his own, Law and Kid are either on the same tier based on their feats against Big Mom or Law is in a higher tier in between Luffy and Kid if you take Law’s feats on Winner Island compared to Kid vs Shanks….which is a weird comparison but matching Haki amped Gura Quakes is a better feat than anyone on this list besides maybe G5 Luffy’s final attack (Gura is the strongest Paramecia AP wise)
Sanji and Zoro are on the same tier but for different reasons. Each is superior in different stats, but as for overall scaling, Zoro extreme diffed Kaido’s number 2 before pulling out a one shot technique like all his main fights, Sanji mid diffed Kaido’s number 3. Same formula they had since Alabasta though Zoro’s feats on the rooftop make people think he’s way over Sanji, which I could see if people read/watch at surface level