This is good advice for all beginner welders. If you learn to weld with acetylene on different types of metal it will teach you how material reacts and help you become a good welder in the future. I’ve been welding for 30 years and I learned how to weld with a torch first. It gave me a good solid base to build on and today I can weld any material with the correct welder but it all started with a torch and some rod.
I endorce this guys message ❤ I always welded everything with oxygen and acetylene.....We even welded airplane headers and pressure tested them in water....Its a great way of welding just not fast...Cast iron , steel, aluminum etc.... All we had other than stick in the shop for many years.
Lumi-Weld STICKS!!! I wish I had a dollar for every cycle case I've repaired with them! Stronger and BETTER than heli-arcing or MIG. Just a good propane torch (MAPP is optional) and Lumi-Welds and if you have a hole up to the size of your fist, you can build-it up in stages. I repaired a two-stroke's main bearing with Lumi-Weld.
I grew up being taught to use an Oxy/cetylene rig to weld mild steel using the coat hangers from the dry cleaners as filler. Worked great, and finally had a use for all those damn coat hangers.
Same here. Was taught by some old school guys in the 1980's. In the 2000's I was the only one in the shop who could braze parts back together. Fix damage to exhausts that other techs caused. Lol Add hangers to pipes. Braze an 02 bung on an exhaust. Used the coat hangers when we ran out of brazing rods back in the day. Hell I even brazed together a battery hold down for my old Datsun. But back in the day they started putting a filler inside the coat silver coat hangers and it would pop and carry on like crazy. So we requested they use the bronze colored coat hangers for our uniforms. 🙄
I absolutely can not get enough of watching a human using skills that many people dont even know exist. These ways are rarer every day. I worry for the nect gen ❤
I would suggest that what he is doing is closer to brazing than welding. He knows what he is doing. Using that torch and filler metal, it looks like brazing. Don't let the welding rod fool you.
That was very impressive! What are your aluminium filler rods made of? They obviously melt at a lower temp than the housing. Are you using the steel welding rod as an abrader to break through the oxide film as well as smooth the weld? Last question, are you running a slight carburising flame? I really loved your video. Its nice to see age old craft practice. Great Job !!!
bom trabalho, mas não passou nenhuma informação relevante, só mostrou seu trabalho, que ficou bom do lado dd fora e o lado de dentro? como ficou? qual liga do aluminio que usou para o preenchimento?
Welding AL. try putting the piece on a hotplate to help keep it hot, use a filler to weld in rather than wasting so much time, gas and rod filling a hole this big. Try, if practical, welding from the inside so there is less grinding to finish what may need to be precise for mechanical clearances.
I would have done it like fixing a hole in drywall or auto body patch filling hole with aluminum stock and weld around the outside edge then grind but I guess there’s more than one way to skin a cat!
You've ever seen a roadside flare the red coloration coming out of the flayer is the magnesium burning the reason it burns under water is because it does not need oxygen it comes from the magnesium which is why you can stick a piece of magnesium on fire in between two sheets of dry ice and it will not go out
Was waiting for the whole thing to go blob onto the floor when heating and smoothing it out towards the end, would have happened to me if id have been doing it 🙈😬😤😂
I thought a lot of those motorcycle engine cases were made out of a mixture of aluminum and magnesium and once you catch magnesium on fire you can't turn it off
And not only that, but the people back then didn't own an angle grinder, so they had to smooth down the patch by a hand with the file and the sandpaper. And it was soo much time and energy consuming, but still it had to be done in time for a customer.
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarokatuh makasih sudah berbagi ilmunya kawan cara ngelas aluminium yang sangat bermanfaat sukses dan sehat selalu sahabat selamat pagi dan selamat beraktifitas 🙏🙏👍👍👍
Bonjour, impressionnante démonstration ! merci. A quoi sert l'électrode enrobée (E13?) thermomètre ? outil pour lisser, ou bien combat l'oxydation ? merci encore !
@@jeanlucdamien8294merci bcp, je cherche a bien comprendre avant de m'entraîner sur un bout de cadre de velo alu. Le but est de reparer la bague de la charniere d un velo pliant bague en alu pour velo, je ne sais pas quel type d alu et si il répondra bien a cette methode. J ai des electrodes gys alu. Comment faire des 'electrodes' alu ? Ca en 'fait des questions, dsl ! Merci
@@theoldhusky5089 knowledge of welding aluminium with oxy , didn't you watch the video? If this is your first time using TH-cam just use your finger to touch the screen and play, you'll get the hang of it
Interesting, but that's more soldering than actual welding. I highly suspect the filler rod is what is sold here in the states as "Muggyweld". I do have to hand it to you on heat control, though! I too was waiting for that to end up in a blob on the floor. Well done!
Either aluminium welding rods or the outer covering of high tension wires. The large electricity cables where I live are steel? With a twisted aluminium sheath similar to these rods. By the end of this video my welding would be a puddle on the floor.
this is why, in 1975 , when I brought my cracked aluminum __________ whatever into a shop they told me they "could" fix it but it wouldn't last , and it would be better to get a new one.
@@Dino_Buk You mean the one where he angle grinds the lining off a brake shoe so he can melt the alloy shoe into rods? Welcome to the world of mesothelioma. No, thanks. And yes, old alloy shoes can easily carry linings that contain asbestos.
This is not welding. It is soldering and it would have been a lot faster and stronger if you had. Just made a close-fitting patch and soldered it in around its edges.
In all fairness its a good video but that's a silly amount of time to repair the hole, why didn't he square the hole and fit a piece into the hole and weld the four sides?
Complimenti... A riuscire con la temperatura del cannello. Chiedo cannello con ossigeno acetilene? Hai usato elettrodo di alluminio +stecca alluminio puro... È corretto?
This is good advice for all beginner welders. If you learn to weld with acetylene on different types of metal it will teach you how material reacts and help you become a good welder in the future. I’ve been welding for 30 years and I learned how to weld with a torch first. It gave me a good solid base to build on and today I can weld any material with the correct welder but it all started with a torch and some rod.
What advice was given here? He just melted shit together.
@@LaLaLand.Germany I gave advice for beginners to learn to weld with a torch first.
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@@mattsmith817the welding program I’m in does Oxy welding first. We don’t to aluminum, but 14 gauge steel. Then on to SMAW 6010, 6011, 7018 rod.
Valla tengo 4 años soldando y me siento tonto
I endorce this guys message ❤ I always welded everything with oxygen and acetylene.....We even welded airplane headers and pressure tested them in water....Its a great way of welding just not fast...Cast iron , steel, aluminum etc.... All we had other than stick in the shop for many years.
Lumi-Weld STICKS!!! I wish I had a dollar for every cycle case I've repaired with them! Stronger and BETTER than heli-arcing or MIG. Just a good propane torch (MAPP is optional) and Lumi-Welds and if you have a hole up to the size of your fist, you can build-it up in stages. I repaired a two-stroke's main bearing with Lumi-Weld.
As a guy that weld,grind and drill daily,i give you utmost respect for ur skill❤
Fantastic job. Welding Holes in Aluminum take patience and the right amount of heat. Looks great 👍
Great job,I'm a torch welder myself,this is almost a forgotten trade!
I grew up being taught to use an Oxy/cetylene rig to weld mild steel using the coat hangers from the dry cleaners as filler. Worked great, and finally had a use for all those damn coat hangers.
Same here. Was taught by some old school guys in the 1980's. In the 2000's I was the only one in the shop who could braze parts back together. Fix damage to exhausts that other techs caused. Lol
Add hangers to pipes. Braze an 02 bung on an exhaust. Used the coat hangers when we ran out of brazing rods back in the day.
Hell I even brazed together a battery hold down for my old Datsun.
But back in the day they started putting a filler inside the coat silver coat hangers and it would pop and carry on like crazy.
So we requested they use the bronze colored coat hangers for our uniforms. 🙄
Why not fill hole with flat stock and weld it in place
That would make sense
Cause then he wouldn't get any clicks.
Because video is showing an old technique. 35years ago pretty much all shops would have fixed the hohe this way.
read the title of the vid "Welding Aluminum The Old-fashioned Way..."
@@andersblomqvist2833 35 years ago I used a tig. Even in the 1940s they were using heliarc with shielding gas.
This is a very effective trick and method for welding aluminum, bro, without any support at the bottom of the weld, nothing will fall off at all...
I absolutely can not get enough of watching a human using skills that many people dont even know exist. These ways are rarer every day.
I worry for the nect gen ❤
I would suggest that what he is doing is closer to brazing than welding. He knows what he is doing. Using that torch and filler metal, it looks like brazing. Don't let the welding rod fool you.
That's neither welding nor aluminum. It's a lower melting alloy brazed onto the aluminum case.
Finally someone who sees this botch job as what it is.
@@LaLaLand.Germany Does it work or not? And if so for how long?
That was very impressive! What are your aluminium filler rods made of? They obviously melt at a lower temp than the housing. Are you using the steel welding rod as an abrader to break through the oxide film as well as smooth the weld? Last question, are you running a slight carburising flame? I really loved your video. Its nice to see age old craft practice. Great Job !!!
bom trabalho, mas não passou nenhuma informação relevante, só mostrou seu trabalho, que ficou bom do lado dd fora e o lado de dentro? como ficou? qual liga do aluminio que usou para o preenchimento?
Welding AL. try putting the piece on a hotplate to help keep it hot, use a filler to weld in rather than wasting so much time, gas and rod filling a hole this big. Try, if practical, welding from the inside so there is less grinding to finish what may need to be precise for mechanical clearances.
Nice job, but I would've drilled a hole at the end of the crack.
I would have done it like fixing a hole in drywall or auto body patch filling hole with aluminum stock and weld around the outside edge then grind but I guess there’s more than one way to skin a cat!
Excelente trabajo te felicito, no tenía idea que con las varillas se podía soldar más fácil, saludos desde Argentina!!!
Parece ser que con electrodo revestido 40/43 está más fácil pero es cuestión de practica
I put a copper back up strip on there, so you don’t drip through
I used brass but that was on metal not aluminum would cooper do better just cause it being aluminum
A copper backup strip on aluminum will introduce contamination to the weld area
Good job my friend,from Indonesian 👍👍
Excellent control of the heat.
You make it look easy that is a masterpiece I'm very impressed thank you for making this
You've ever seen a roadside flare the red coloration coming out of the flayer is the magnesium burning the reason it burns under water is because it does not need oxygen it comes from the magnesium which is why you can stick a piece of magnesium on fire in between two sheets of dry ice and it will not go out
Oxygen does not come from magnesium, they are different elements. Dry ice is carbon dioxide, CO2, which does contain oxygen.
The interesting thing about old welding techniques is that they are brazen.
When teh base metal melts, it's welding.
If we put a piece of aluminum and welded it with the rest of the piece, it would be better and more economical
Was waiting for the whole thing to go blob onto the floor when heating and smoothing it out towards the end, would have happened to me if id have been doing it 🙈😬😤😂
I think i wudda just bought a new cover on ebay!.
patched a hole like that with JB weld almost 50 years ago, it lasted as long as I had the bike.
Done the same with crank cases and punctured oil pans. JB weld rocks!
I thought a lot of those motorcycle engine cases were made out of a mixture of aluminum and magnesium and once you catch magnesium on fire you can't turn it off
And not only that, but the people back then didn't own an angle grinder, so they had to smooth down the patch by a hand with the file and the sandpaper. And it was soo much time and energy consuming, but still it had to be done in time for a customer.
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarokatuh makasih sudah berbagi ilmunya kawan cara ngelas aluminium yang sangat bermanfaat sukses dan sehat selalu sahabat selamat pagi dan selamat beraktifitas 🙏🙏👍👍👍
Cool..! Nice Vid Showing Good Torch Control. Now Do One With Real Aluminum Filler and Flux...Yes It Can Be Done..
Muy buen trabajo, saludos
Meștere dacă n-ai mănă nu toate muștele fac miere trebuie apreciat
Bee's wax on the grinding wheel helps in stoping clogging up the wheel.
His family clearly owns aluminum plants lol
Bonjour, impressionnante démonstration ! merci. A quoi sert l'électrode enrobée (E13?) thermomètre ? outil pour lisser, ou bien combat l'oxydation ? merci encore !
Stainless stell. ;)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 il faut faire le liquid de penetration.
@@Zagorex pas pensé a ça ! il y en a très peu qui fond ca fait un moment que je n'ai pas utilisé l'arc , je voyais E13 comme Rutile
La couche superficielle s'oxyde et fond à température plus élevé . Il faut donc la dégager avec un "outil" , si non tu fais un trou .
@@jeanlucdamien8294merci bcp, je cherche a bien comprendre avant de m'entraîner sur un bout de cadre de velo alu. Le but est de reparer la bague de la charniere d un velo pliant bague en alu pour velo, je ne sais pas quel type d alu et si il répondra bien a cette methode. J ai des electrodes gys alu. Comment faire des 'electrodes' alu ? Ca en 'fait des questions, dsl ! Merci
Hola que tal quería saber que combinación d gas usas para soldar gracias
Pero se soldar con electrodo revestido?
great video,thankyou for sharing the knowledge
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@@theoldhusky5089 knowledge of welding aluminium with oxy , didn't you watch the video? If this is your first time using TH-cam just use your finger to touch the screen and play, you'll get the hang of it
Mas klo pengelasan dg torch dan ke media yg tipis seperti radiator n evaporator pakek pakan yg gimana?
Ages ago, when I worked at BEECH aircraft, welding section, they used hydrogen gas I think it was.. on aluminum.
You forget this is poor schlob land. They don´t do aircraft standart in poor schlob land.
Aayos Ang pag wilding acitilyn hahaha
Interesting, but that's more soldering than actual welding. I highly suspect the filler rod is what is sold here in the states as "Muggyweld".
I do have to hand it to you on heat control, though! I too was waiting for that to end up in a blob on the floor.
Well done!
Nja Fire soldering easy ... or fast variants weld MIG electrod aluminiun 50_80 amp
Outside looks nice but the inside is where clearences matter!
Señor usted es un hombre de verdad
Great work.
Bravo .. Sae maze 👍
上手い。真似出来ない。good job
Extra points for sandals!
SUPER bravoooooo.😊
It does actually look good
No, it don´t! This looks like crap. Would You pay for this?
How did you make your home made rod? Give us sample?
Go look in his older vids. Several months ago he made a vid that shows his process for making aluminum filler
Melt some beer cans, then You have it.
Как всегда - высший класс!
It takes skills to fill an hole like that
You could do it quicker with a Duraweld rod, a little practice and anybody could do it in 10 minutes.
No, it don´t. This is just basic temperature control with a soft flame. A botch job, that´s what it is.
can a MAP torch get hot enough for this on similar metal?
Yes, you can use a Duraweld rod and just a torch to do this , the weld area will be 2/3 times stronger than the casting , I have done it many times.
Very valuable nice work 👍
I will have to learn that. Have you made abc video lessons ?
sua solda ficou perfeita,mas demorou muito,nao seria melhor vc pegar um pedaço do tamamho do buraco e fazer a soldagem
Make shift 3D printing
Copper backing can also be used to ease the process
This takes a insane amount of skill
O cara é fera.
This method doesn't require a bent or angled piece of metal to fit in the hole !!! It isn't a Flat hole !!!
Itu kawat aluminium y ? Pakai las kaleng torch bisa g ?
Great welding 👍. 2 questions : What kinda torch setup is that and what are those crooked aluminum rods ? I have curious minds over here
I am to know the same!. Thank You
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Either aluminium welding rods or the outer covering of high tension wires. The large electricity cables where I live are steel? With a twisted aluminium sheath similar to these rods. By the end of this video my welding would be a puddle on the floor.
They say that if at all possible to use a piece as a filler rod from the item or same material.
Ce n'est pas de l'artisana, c'est du grand art !
Merci pour ce magnifique cours 🖐️👍💐
this is why, in 1975 , when I brought my cracked aluminum __________ whatever into a shop they told me they "could" fix it but it wouldn't last , and it would be better to get a new one.
What kind rods are you using. I never used that kind before
It´s a melted beer can rod special.
Great work,but why not weld a patch into the hole? It would be stronger.
J'ai aimé excellent travail merci pour le partage.
Nice job 👍
But what are those daggy ally sticks? I've never seen them in the store.
He made them.
Watch his older videos on how to do it yourself.
@@Dino_Buk You mean the one where he angle grinds the lining off a brake shoe so he can melt the alloy shoe into rods? Welcome to the world of mesothelioma. No, thanks. And yes, old alloy shoes can easily carry linings that contain asbestos.
EXCELENTE VIDEO!!
how its work without flux? and how strong is it ? or its just primary fix?
genio lejos
Great welding but starting a torch with a butane lighter?
Alüminyum kaynağında TİG kaynağı çok güzel sonuçlar verir. Ancak kullandığınız kaynak makinası Alternatif (AC) akım verebilmeli.
Bang, itu kena biaya brp yah klo las alumunium segitu? Salam hangat satu profesi🙏
That’s a very nice job. It would be twice the hole if I was doing it. Thanks for the post.
Hadir tatanga😁
Good job
beside the home made rod's of aluminum.. what was the commercial weld rod used and why? (to get some sort of flux off of it?)
It's just to melt the base metal, the rod is used for stick welding and can take the temperature without melting
@@BlandfordAutomotive The steel welding rod was used just to drag the molten Aly out into the cavity, any steel rod would do the job.
Nice
Es con acetileno o con gas?
Yo uso acetileno en el video. 🙏
Que solda perfeita
This is not welding. It is soldering and it would have been a lot faster and stronger if you had. Just made a close-fitting patch and soldered it in around its edges.
In all fairness its a good video but that's a silly amount of time to repair the hole, why didn't he square the hole and fit a piece into the hole and weld the four sides?
Do any kind of flux needed?
Same technique for diecast too.
Is he using the steel rod to smooth out the Al welds and remove excess material?
Yup. The AL won't stick to the steel rod. The guy is using it as a push stick.
請問這是鋁棒嗎？
Fire clay backer and fluoride flux
this is not good you should put first flat metal behind so you can weld very good...
That's what I was thinking, and I never even welded in my life 💯!
Isn't it important to match the type of aluminum? Can any AL filler type be used?
Complimenti...
A riuscire con la temperatura del cannello.
Chiedo cannello con ossigeno acetilene? Hai usato elettrodo di alluminio +stecca alluminio puro... È corretto?
Que material é este da vareta de solda ?
Bengkel tempatnya di mana kak?
Which size of the nozzle no.4 or no.3 anyway which size
GRACIAS POR ENSEÑAR METODOS DE LA VIEJA ESCUELA.
Excelente
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