Why Yu-Gi-Oh Pros Are NOT HAPPY About the 2024 NAWCQ
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"All this money spent, and nothing to show for it." -everyone that bought Fiendsmith and still lost.
Tbh L + ratio to them all.
Well I mean the deck did win. So it had to be one person who won. This statement makes no sense
I've been saying this for the weeks leading up to this event lol. Why would Konami change for the better when they have record attendance & huge sales on the new product?
@ab0xxy People are just addicted to new shiny things, will pay their monthly rent and mortgage to acquire said shiny things, and sit there questioning their life.
We allow the players to keep spending big money on the game to keep it afloat. Budget players love that their cards are cheap and could care less about winning. They still get to play with friends and have fun. For the competitively addicted, winning is all they want.
@@realzionygo budget players do in fact care about winning we just know how low our chances are
There’s a saying I have for yugioh after playing this game for 10 years plus. “Sometimes it’s just not your format.”. It’s that simple. It can be the card pool, the strategies, the banlist, the general complexities of the game and the aspect that regardless of how hard you deck theory, play test, and even if you purchase the meta cards, when you draw the first hand your still under the rule of randomized variants of hands. Some players get the god hands, others get the bricks.
💯
Ive been playing dragons for 25 years in one way or another. They get broken support often so it's never far from meta.
Glad new faces
Sounds like a shit recipe for a game though.
@drewpage3787 The dragons will never die that's for sure.
Last ycs first place won with 18 handtraps. Now they win with 20 handtraps. What a format
@@travisdinham6084 The more one card starters the more common this will be and I mean every deck in the not too distant future will be like that
If the best deck has 15 starters and 25 non-engines and it still wins even after some misplays, then it is a bad format. AD said it himself, he misplayed, but he still won because of how good the deck is (maybe he is just being humble).
he's being humble considering 50% of the room is the mirror.
A majority of people got knocked out using the same deck. You still need a functioning brain to use it. Nevermind testing is still different from a real duel and it's still new. It becomes habit later.
@@RavenCloak13 They got knocked out not just because others are better than them but because it's just the nature of ELIMINATION tournaments. Yes, you need a functioning brain but you do NOT need to be smart to play Fiend Smith because it is so linear. It's been out in the OCG since April. Competitive players have been play testing in Online Simulators (using TCG F/L list). Though I agree, the more you play, the more it becomes easier and it becomes a habit.
Different people being at the top does not mean the format is unskilled
Same thing with the reverse
True.
It's open ht and win
@@Alex-gw6ie that is an entirely different argument.
@@Alex-gw6ienah new format has so hand traps not that impactful. More so player actually opening good hand.
@@ghostuser-ch4ultrue
Personally I don’t think just because notable players didn’t top means the format isn’t “skilled”. the players who did are skilled too but haven’t had their moment to shine until now. It is def a boring/repetitive format but some of the plays the top cut made, not just anyone could do or think of in this high pressure situations.
Great discussion and vid!
I got to agree with you my guy I keep seeing this whole BS that the format is "bad" and whatever because the "good players" didn't make it like if they where the only good players like if the other guys that make it ( beat the "good players") didn't also work hard and playtest hard . Just like you said now it's their time to shine
@@lasalle48yea the thing about well known players is that they been traveling to multiple events so of course you’re gonna hear about them, they’re good and make themselves available.
Some really good players like the 1st place guy hardly travelled until recently.
I’m sure there is someone out there who only ever plays at locals and has never travelled could be skilled enough to top too it’s just about timing and resources.
@@FabriZohyou're right
When the top decks runs 15-20 handtraps, it's honestly a thinly veiled sack fest.
@@IAngelofFuryIwhen top decks run so many hand traps. Only for still be useless says a lot about players knowledge on format. Lol
Disagree the “pros” just be slipping cause they didn’t take last format seriously and didn’t prepare for this one. They got outplayed simple as that. No excuses.
Reminds me of the format where everyone played the adventure engine to safely scythe lock each other
Shout-out to the 1 magical musketeer guy. Man is out there, trying alone, to make the game interesting again.
yet, all content creators focus on trivial stuff we all already know...
Is there a decklist for that hero? Working on my own list
And the Ancient Gear player Corbin
A lot of great rouge players at this one.
Just because 8 people didn’t make the top cut doesn’t mean the format is unskilled. This game has variance and it is a format with no previous tournaments before this set release
After seeing so many pros complain about a diverse meta when rescue ace / unchained was still good I could care less whatever dog water opinion they have regarding the meta
That was such a good format i wish we could go back
The meta is only good when they win more
Many already retract their statement even before SE meta tbh.
Maybe because Joshua winning Bologna made them look bad if they don't retract their statement.
Bro. Pak, Jesse, Ureña, Le Blanc, etc. The Pros. They aren’t the only guys with the brains and the sunk time around any more. Specially on a national tournament to qualify for worlds… Maybe the best players did win, maybe Pak and Jesse were not the best this tournament, maybe there is more than 100 names with talent? I’m not saying the format is good, but players in top cut definitely navigated their matches with skill and their decks lists contain certain choices that deviated from the norm like the new rabbit, maining the Mulcharmy or the mature chronicle that were seen being effective
They act like if since they've had a name in the game for so long that nobody new can come add their name to the list
People also forget that yes yugioh is a skill based game but there’s also luck involved. Sometimes it’s not your day, you brick, lose die rolls, your opponent has every interruption and a 1 card combo, etc. I understand being upset you didn’t top. But at the same time Pak specifically can’t say he has nothing to show for it. He is a house hold name in Yugioh. To me it comes off arrogant and ignorant.
Saw Aditya's deck profile, I didn't like how he admitted to the deck carrying him after miss played left right and center throughout the whole tournament.
Kinda disappointed in Jesse's results especially since he's been getting the first 2 round buys at every event he's been going to.
He's just being humble, the guy played very well
Why? Because it proves how easy the deck is to win with?
One thing I was considering could be a factor was the prevalence of this reportedly format-solving spreadsheet, being an essential part of seemingly every known pro player’s prep. I don’t want to understate how useful of a resource it is / how much time went into making it, but I don’t remember a format where everyone was so spreadsheet-pilled during testing.
I understand why - there are such an insane number of lines with the FS cards, and the format has such a small margin for error that you need to navigate those lines correctly. But I do wonder if some of the “lesser known” players looked at the spreadsheet and were able to find exploits to the lines everyone else was going for + come up with some combo patterns of their own that skirt around the usual “where to handtrap” flowchart, rather than just absorbing the information.
This is lowkey how u actually win. The real secret metagame is one of information warfare. Leak fake/incomplete guu then lab counterplay.
Right right. Like in football if the opposing teams playbook and calls are leaked you could just smoke them with ease. That's a cool theory to come up with and would be super next level if true
@@philo2677 I’m semi-convinced Urena was doing this during phni format - I know for a fact that he wasn’t going for the 1 card SnAsh line he showed unless he had a way to beat Ash Blossom on SnAsh 2nd effect
@@ct1296 well what if he opened SnAsh + 4 nonengine, wouldn't he have to? Or was he playing out NS SnAsh with a different line?
@@philo2677 there was a line where the first time you link off poplar you don’t trigger effect, and place Flamberge with temple so you can send for SnAsh. You still float into pop + snash if you get ashed since Flamberge hits gy with two valid targets
Not a fan of pak ever since he was complaining about the format being too diverse. Well he got exactly what he wanted.
Not really? This NAWCQ's format is under a mostly Deck Theory guise, as if you teched to see Fiendsmith Snake Eyes and you don't sit across from it because a lot of players did not have the deck, you are completely hosed for doing so. Fiendsmith being so inaccessable caused the format to warp into "Get Good" or play decks that don't play Yu-Gi-Oh (Tenpai, Stun Variants). Pak is not wrong for wanting a closed format as a competitor, but this one was anything but closed because of how Fiendsmith's rarity is showing out, these are straight not accessable to most players. ~60% of top cut is Fiendsmith Engine, but that's just the engine.
I mean what about the other players that did well and not considered “ pro” players! U can’t take away from they having skill! Cause they clearly shown they do!
Definitely not taking away from the achievements of players who topped, just interesting to see an event without many big names in the top cut.
Most Tenpai Decks are out in Top 64, as when you get to top cut, everybody knows your deck. So Yubel is definetly stronger than Tenpai, but with Snake-Eyes running rampage, it really feels again like a tier 0. Oh well, back to Edison Tournaments I guess.
The problem with tenpai in the tcg is just that we dont have maxx c. Going blind 2nd is very hard even if we have other hand traps. Because you need to have 4 hts the field spell and paidra in hand to go off properly. As long as there isnt an sp to get rid of the field lol. With maxx c you can just keep drawing cards until you have the board breakers in hand
Coinflip format. Problem it was already a coinflip format just not in the mirror.
I’m sorry but how does not making top cut for certain players mean that this format isn’t skillful? Every dog has his day sometimes u win others u don’t, yes they may make top cut most of the time but just because they’re struggling now doesn’t mean this format isn’t skillful, maybe other players just got better. Everyone is literally playing the same deck the better player won that’s how I see it
They always cry when they down. But when they up its "I got the guu" foh
No1 is complaining about yesterday. Just a clickbait title and you are "all-knowing" and arrogant now. Smh.
Pretty sure u didn't even watch the video b4 commenting
Shut the hell up
@travisdinham6084 you're doing the same thing just blindly claiming no one is complaining. Cause they are. Just cause you don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They mostly complain on social media other than youtube.
7:50 …..so if the people you want to see win don’t win every tournament, then it’s not a skillful format?
Honestly, any pro complaining is hilarious. They put in work? To win ycs and regionals and then complain when they scrub out? I know who would have thought, nothing in Yugioh is a guarantee? lol there’s like 2,000+ other players that don’t get to go to worlds.
While I do agree, it's silly to complain that you lost. I also see the double-edged sword of losing when you're considered one of the "good" players. Especially if you're a content creator because you either have 1 less video for the month or don't even have content to make period. If you were to watch a deck profile for Snake Eyes, which one would you want to watch? The deck that won 1st place and is going to worlds? Or the deck that placed top 100?
If many proven entities and skilled players that consistently top can't top, it's a sign of a poor format. Obviously anything can happen, but with so many top players attending, none of them toppings is concerning. It shows the format may not be skill based, which is obviously bad.
@@alexandergomez3574I would generally disagree here, because even in these higher tier 1 & 0 formats it's still the general group of good players still make top cut and win events.
@@jtalkalot19 Well that's because most matches are mirror matches, and so the better pilot usually wins. That's not my argument. The argument is that this particular tier 0 format, is a deck that is mid at going second, but spectacular at going first. Making the matches heavily reliant on the dice roll. I'm not saying the people that topped are bad, or that there is NO skill expression, there's just significantly less, which means more often than usual, the better player is not always winning.
@@alexandergomez3574 okay I can get by that.
Any event with no Chris Leblanc in top cut is a good event to me
this, get him out of the community
My friend tied against him in round 8 day one. Gimmick puppets put a lot of pressure on lol
This was easily the WORST NAWCQ in the games history. This tournament was about who had money to buy a fieldsmith engine. Pay to win tournament for USA and Europe with a 500 package you have to play... or if you are in OCG you get time to build practice and all for a fraction of the cost.
This season shows that the rest of the world is funding OCG domination.
Pak always yapp on twitter whenever he looses , he’s not the best player in the world there are tons of people that are better than him and practiced well too and did a great job in their deck building and playing every match focused and well.
They think the "fame" means they are better. They forget that they too were nobody before and that a nobody can rise the same way they did
I think they’re gonna hit some snake eyes starters, and yubel fiendsmith will move into that tier 0 slot
Do we have a % ratio on how many FS/SE mirrors were won by the player going first round 1?
Doubtful but that would be an interesting stat line for sure.
If people are expecting this next banlist to address Snake-Eye without the thought of Fiendsmith Yubel now being the best deck utilizing Fiendsmith then we’re going to hear the same “This format sucks, no other deck can compete” argument except for the Yubel deck. Fiendsmith was actually a mistake the more I read those cards
It’s not weightlifting, work in yugioh doesn’t guarantee success. Especially with RNG and coin toss formats.
We definitely should differentiate between complaining/crying and being disapointed after investing so much time. I read a lot of comments especially about Pak that he's complaining etc. Read his post in full, not only the first part in the thumbnail. He's disapointed because it didn't work out this time. Understandable after putting in this amount of work. The second part reads that he keeps going to get it done next time. This a motivational post everyone can slice a piece of for himself. This is not complaining!
Pak is very communicative with his oppinion about the state of the game. True. BUT if it's about self reflection not many players come close to Pak. He will analyse this and try to be better next time. No doubt. You may like him or not but please differentiate and try to understand the person when you want to critizise someone. Thanks :)
#yappingfinished
People don’t know the difference between complaining, venting, expressing, communicating, sharing, delivery and the very real need to get things out of yourself in a safe space.
For most of you especially younger folks, the internet is the ONLY place you feel safe enough to say things with out getting repercussions like being judged by family or told what to think or feel.
Most of us need a place to share or express.
Just let people be people guys 🎉❤
Pretty annoyed that the streaming just abruptly stopped before the finals and Sam’s feature match the day previous. like wtf Konami that’s so easy to get right yet you fuck it up.
Its stupid because Konami knew exactly what was going to happen and these things are a clear issue and the prize support doesn’t justify making these cards expensive and playing 16 rounds to get a pat on the back and some clout
Tbh I honestly feel like if I really really wanted to I could’ve gone, but there were a lot of situations where I was like “it’s not worth it”
there is skill and skill expression in the deck 100% the players at the top and in the streams werent bad - well the Tear bros had some issues here and there...
but the thing about the format is that while it can be a decent back and forth - it s prone to blow outs as well - with the ammont of handtraps being played from 16 18 up to 21 I believe; and options like shifter and angle of blue tears. On the flip side some hands have so much gas that even through one or maybe two handtraps you fkt the opponent effectively...
Overall just sacky...
you're a good content creator but this is a bad take. Don't take away from the skill that the top cut players had to make it as far as they did. Just because someone is well known or has topped before doesn't mean they are infallable or something is 'wrong' if they don't top again on the national stage vs. the best competition in the country that we have to offer
I stand by what I said and it doesn't take away from players who topped. More reliance on dice rolls, non-engine, amount of handtraps and rediciolus one card combos lowers the skill gap between players, meaning less skilled players (not saying the top cut players are) win more frequently. And this is my opinion based on playing this format, seeing results, decks and 2 days of feature matches.
most disgusting thing i saw on so many top table was that everyone and their mother slow played like its crazy.
I drew the god hands with unchained. Brick hands with snake eyes. I’m hoping selling snake eyes and putting fiendsmith into yubel and my unchained decks will be both competitively viable, and fun enough to hold me through this next format atleast. Also have the puppet ftk and tenpai for the lulz
They always whine and moan when they are down so I don't take their opinions seriously since they are all blinded by sponsorship money and their own hubris
Oh man mortgage payment deck with infinite recursion that cant break its own board in the mirror/ budget braindead synchro deck that just plays 25 non engine isnt a fun format and doesnt reflect skill at all? Crazy.
I’m just unhappy about the fact I played against Fiendsmith Snake Eyes for 7 consecutive matches day 1 - 8 out of 9 of my matches was this deck day 1.
If I won, I played against the best deck. If I lost, I played against the best deck. Wanted to shoot myself at the end of it all. 😅
honestly, as someone who really dislikes the current format i can see why people wouldn't wanna play, with snake eye lasting for almost 8 months now (i think at least correct me if i'm wrong) and being an annoying hand trap spamming deck. not to mention the fear of the deck not getting hit on the next list i feel like there will easily be hundreds of people quitting just to get away from this terrible format that has lasted way too long.
Who would've thought dedicating your life to a game would be so disappointing...
Bs. This was already known going into the tournament, them not making it and failing again in the main event. If the ones speaking out had made it in, you would not have seen them saying and posting that BS. Everyone knows what YGO is about and what happens in these tournaments, yugioh players always complain when things do not go their way, and then everyone jumps on the wagon. They just got outplayed, Aditya went 2nd most of his features and stomp his opponents!!!
I'm beating a dead horse but if we had the ocg card rareitys then we can ban cards quicker since they wouldn't cost a down payment on a house to pick up and play
The fact that top players got left out of top cut, was the only healthy fact of the event. If all pros got a spot, something would smell fishy... And believe me as I say it, it did for the previous events. We also heard ranting about "more spots on the top cut" by known content creators. All in all 2600 players stand for 2600 times 25 random factors that could take you out any minute. Shifters? Locks? Bad hands - good hands? Bad decks? Legal stallers, as you pointed out? You name it.
The other good news is that we get to see the first EU event in a long time.
I expect more Bystials and decks that incorporate them at the EUWCQ.
I expect of the banlist to address stupidly overpowered consistency. 2 flamberges 2 prometheans are too much 16 combo starters + 4 to 8 new ones are too much, on the other hand, straight bans would be too much of an overkill. Also, give us back some counter strategies. Magnamhut semi? Called by semi?
Last but not least, reprints, and enough time for the fun player to utilize them. Good engines - strategies are Floodgated behind the 100$ mark. So a fun player that needs 2-3-4 of them is condemned not to get them. Drop them at quarter the price, or less, let them roam free for 6 months and let people have fun.
I wouldn't say a format is not skill full because the known players didn't perform well because the players that beat them had to be skillful to do so, in a way that is taking away from the hard work those players had to put in, in order to play well. Obviously, the known players put a lot of work into the game, and it show, but maybe this just wasn't their time to shine. Plenty of more matches for them to shine in throughout the format.
Where was jeremy Mitchell this year?
Add the introduction of One Piece and Lorcana to the mix, and YuGiOh feels even worse! Specially for pros, the return on investment time and money wise is even more cuestionable with new games around.
Not even champion stamp cards. The heck konami.
That Aditya player is Hella sus
MtG had this same issue a few years ago with Pros not making it through in big events.
Essentially...cry more?
Everybody loses a game sometimes. We're adults. Can we stop coping with the anime waifu card game?
Not of fan of yugioh rn. I have been taking a break to see if format gets more even. Doesn't look like it yet. Snake-Eyes and now with added Fiendsmith is too oppressive to play anything else. Just my opinion. We will see how end of August shapes out.
Its okay to not like snake eyes, and i know you and good chuck of players are sick of playing against it at this point. But what you said here, literally made no sense. There was more than one deck that made it to top cut. Under your logic, the other 33 decks that made to top cut stood no chance at winning, even though they prolly beat multiple snake eyes on their way to end make top cut.
@@jtalkalot19what they said made perfect sense. Those other decks have to play perfectly every game to beat Smith-Eyes for 12 rounds. Smith-Eyes and other Snake-Eyes builds/pilots are basically on auto pilot with the way the deck works. There isn’t any crazy deep tech or skill testing plays in Smith-Eyes it’s an on the rails spreadsheet deck that stuffs 20 non engine. Nothing is more frustrating than for a top player to spend weeks testing a format, preparing for the best deck, and then losing to a guy who was misplaying but because their deck is just that much better than anything else it doesn’t matter
@@yeahthisisalex5681yeah I'm with you here. It's like having to pull off the frame perfect daigo party. Every. Single. Round.
@jtalkalot19 I'm also making comments based on personal experience. I strategize for Snake-Eyes because it is the best deck and played the majority of YCS's. When playing rogue, it involves a lot of strategizing to play against it, and it takes away my build against other decks. Very true what you mentioned that those other decks most likely had to beat Snake-Eyes along the way. At the end of the day, which deck won it, though, and the last 10 YCS's. Overall IMO feels like an oppressive meta, and i don't have to play in it so I opted not too for time being 😅
@@yeahthisisalex5681 I like the Smith-Eyes name for the deck that’s pretty funny. I ’m not going to change my point. You did play perfectly for 12 rounds against smith-eyes to make top cut and you telling me you can’t do it potentially 6 more times? Tenpai reached top 8, but they met their quota on how many smith-eyes they are allowed to beat in a tournament and can no longer do so.
And to your other point that’s just card games in general. I’ve been on that other side so many the I understand that feeling, but that is part of the game.
The friday pak storm off was just pathetic its a game at the end of the day
Sanctifire is probably safe tbh
Nats was tough but a great experience
This term "pro players" is funny lol. There is nothing rewarding enough about yugioh to make even its BEST players fit the definition of "professionals"...are they really good at their hobby...sure. do they put more time into it than some of us who have a family to come home to after work everyday? Probably...but i dont think anyone is making enough money playing Yu-Gi-Oh for it to be their profession lol. Theres no denying Jesse is a great player, but as mentioned by others...doesnt mean someone like myself for example who doesn't make it to big tournaments unless they're semi local can't beat them...pak is the most overrated of them all. Sure he has an understanding of the game and people praise him because he only so started playing maybe 5 years ago...but his arrogant personality makes his content shit, and every time he under performs its s big rant about how bad the format is lol. It makes me truly happy that there are people out there winning who don't have highly recognized names... people talk about how the game sucks...how it's dying...well then let these other people have their chance instead of the same couple mentions and maybe people will be inspired to step up and try...
They don’t even consider themselves “pro”, the term gets thrown around so much that people with no ties to those players think it’s actually real. The players making money by doing things other than topping tournaments are pretty much content creators which is completely different. It’s cool to see someone we don’t really know win it though.
Pretty sure I just watched someone in that first clip link a Promethean princess and flambergr dragon into appolusa
"all this effort saying Tier 0 or triangle formats are better than diverse formats, and I end up getting cooked by gimmick puppets" man I swear if it ain't one thing it's another with Pak. hates diverse formats, hates strong tier 1 formats, what does he really want.
Do you think Konami try to make New Big head ?
How did the finals go?
Snake eye won the dice roll
*it is what it is*
Pak always cries when he doesn’t win. There’s literally a room full of thousands of people that have been putting in the work as well. You win some you lose some that simple.
His post literally said that he's sad that the work he put in didn't convert into something but he will keep going to get it next time. This is a motivational post not complaining or crying. We should differentiate that and I respect his mindset after putting in so many hours
Ghouki Gumblar 2.0! Why so much fear to say? Just said! It's a dice roll format.
Two weeks ago people wanted to discuss Oak being hit or Beatrice. Wouldn't make a difference! The moment Konami printed those stupid TCG exclusives i knew that they wouldn't call back on letting "circus on fire". We the TCG players are Konami slot machine 2.0, they realize that after the pandemic format and the garbage master duel (the game is fine, but they promise would be a TCG/OCG simulator, which is not). And btw how many tier 0 formats have we had these last two years? Tear Ishizu, Kashtira, Snake-eye and now Fiendsmith SE. My god! We start the season in YCS São Paulo with Kashtira format, SE tier 0 and ending on Fiendsmith SE tier 0. Three in a season!
Well that's what the pro-players asked isn't? "Diverse formats are not good for the game" "In tier 0 you see who is the best player". Well, i guess if you call for the rain is better be ready to deal with mud too.
Yugioh is not even a game anymore
I'm glad that I switched to Vanguard and Shadowverse Evolve
That's why I didn't go. 😊
The prize pool sucks.
Mans really took half a tweet and posted it on his thumbnail out of context 😂 clickbait at its finest
wow I'm glad I stopped when I did, game seems like a world of fun anymore
Everyone that bought snake eyes and fiendsmith deserve to lose there money. Not my fault they keep buying the power creep.
Lmaoooo the reason they postponed the list was for people to go crazy and buy the most expensive cards. Just wait till after august then “pros” gonna cry about their lost. Pros will always cry. Just about done hearing from them.
Why is this a bad thing? Shouldn't we want different players doing well and topping instead of the same people every time? Everyone got tired of seeing Brady in the Super Bowl
“This tweet is from an account you muted” are you beefing with Pak? Lol
The muted account isn’t Pak 😘
why are you discrediting the people who made top cut? just cus pro players didnt make it doesnt mean it has no skilled involved. all thos pros need to get good at the game. dont disrespect the non-famous players. you got a big ego for saying that type of cr ap.
Who is this Pak guy, stopped playing after 2019. Is Patrick Hoban still the goat?
He finished 1st in Swiss haha
Womp womp
No matter what format people will complain. Some say they will quit and take breaks (long or short) and others actually quit. Let’s see who posted they will quit and still show up. 😂
honestly tcg cards price is plain fraud...
All that time wasted for no money or skills learned.
"pros" didn't top cuz they getting old, mind ain't as sharp
Lmaoooo the reason they postponed the list was for people to go crazy and buy the most expensive cards. Just wait till after august then “pros” gonna cry about their lost. Pros will always cry. Just about done hearing from them. Since when do events only mean something because of “pros”. Congrats you get a Nintendo switch. Joke take.
Tear was a better format especially Ishizu Tear. Took way more skill than this so there is definitely levels to tier 0 formats.
It didn’t ur just missing a format trust me this format is just as bad as tear I honestly don’t see why players don’t see it that way
Tear format was worse then this ☠️
Tear best lets gooo
Guess I just don't like tear format. Once ishizu tear was a things I didn't know what happened past CL1.
@@dissidiamaniac460 Well that might sound harsh but skill issue - it was a complex and hard format - which could be hard for newer or more chill players - not trying to be hard here - but it was just a lot to be sure; If you like this style of dueling then it was amazing if you rather have more simplified gamestates or play board breaker games (unchained maybe) then thats fine too. Not every format is for everyone 100% - but at least in "harder" formats good duelist get rewarded and win more - which in my oppinion matters a lot for the competetive / tournament side.
I'm no pro but not happy neather
Game has always been like this. No need to keep speaking on it. Y'all seem to this is just a gacha
Disagree. Everyone gets lucky and unlucky. They just got unlucky. That's yugioh.
Someone just tried to argue with me on reddit abt this game being skillful. Like bro, there's no skill in losing to shifter, no skill to losing to bad hands. The best players not doing too hot show that. I'll take it a step further and say yugioh players don't want a skillful game. It's a card game and that's part of the fun. The fact that anyone could draw X card and win is part of the fun yugioh players enjoy. If you're in this game for a deep, skill based game, you're going to have a bad time.
…So look at the chart of the top 64 and tell me that snake eyes didn’t only lose to themselves or yubel? Everyone played the same deck it was skill, unless ur playing stun or sum bs there was no excuse the better player won this format
There is skill in navigating the great variance of the game, from deck building to sequencing your cards appropriately to the situation. That doesn’t mean every game and by extension tournament is winnable for a player making the best decisions, but alas it has a degree of skill involved
@@renegarcia2857 yes. Skill is certainly a variable, in any competitive game. But as ygo is a card game that is so heavily focused on turn one combos, it means it suffers to bad draws more than other card games. If you roll low all tournament and draw poor hands, it does not matter how good you are. You will lose.
@@lit_wick that is true, and without a mana system most of the resource management is done on the first two turns, still with proper deck building and on a long tournament, the likelihood of of such a streak is very low, very much possible, but low, and there is still a lot of room for decision making when sequencing cards, even on a format such as this one.
@Xuilin_ I agree that the majority of decks are similar, but the small differences can account for different results and that’s where the skill is at, look a the winner of the event, ran the new rabbit when no one else did, and it turns to make a lot of sense, snake eyes lacked a searchable spell/trap that could be chained on command and the rabbit provides that, it makes Desirae being able to negate dark ruler and droplet, plus S:P was the only way to reliably deal with the opponents field spell, the Rabbit now acts as a second avenue to pop it or other countinous spells. And the thing with innovation is that it is only new until it becomes a trend, then lists will look more alike as the formats evolve
Please stop naming the wife beater. Soesn't deserve any recognition
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Get over it already.
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Yugioh is 0 fun.
Then pls just leave
Then leave, better yet, why are you watching this video?
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Very easy. The guys you mentioned can only succeed in "," solved formats. Would they already know where it's going?Thus having no unknowns. As soon as they're unknowns, and they need to be creative, they fail. They went in thinking they had already discovered the best way to play It. And unfortunately, I think the lines they're doing just don't really work, they're kind of a little shaky at best, and I think it proves it that none of them topped. This is what happens when you guys start believing everything they say, just a little bit too much. Once again, the problem is these guys only perform Well, in solved formats, it's not getting sacked, it's not any of that they're just not that creative. And they get salty, and I think people are starting to realize that they're really not as good as people think they are.
I think thier adderall deletas dried up lol
Only thing worth even mentioning is Ancient Gear showing how based it is.
The rest is just not worth it, usual stuff. Fiendsmith is extremely OP and splashable in already too powerful decks and everyone plays it