The movie is bad because of the writer and the director, not the actors. The script was shit and the movie was lgbt-ized which added to the overall bitterness.
Hey, we all want to achieve this at some point. Maybe expose preachers and priests of any religion of your preference their bad, malicious and "touchy" habits (especially on children) in front of the people.
@@AccipiterSmith Homosexuals also have a higher rate of pedophilia, gays are 1-2% of the population but do around half of the child rapes, what about them, hypocrite?
@@AccipiterSmith you think that solves the problem? Then the Darwinian and militant atheistic heads of state get to torment and liquidate the population, oh wait, we had that already... pol pot, stalin and adolph.
Worship false gods, you will never find peace, you will be disappointed. Worship Allah alone. You will find peace and be happiness, Allah truly loves you and is most merciful. There is no God expect Allah. AllahuAkbar! ALLAH IS WAY POWERFUL BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION, BEYONG WHAT YOU SEE ON MARVEL. HE CANNOT BE COMPARED. FEAR ALLAH AND ACCEPT ISLAM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. WORSHIP ALLAH AND PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY, praying 5 times a day only takes 50 minutes in total out of 24 hours you have every day. There is Eternal reward only with Allah alone! Allah was literally using these actors to teach a lesson, false Gods are deceivers, renounce them and accept Allah alone.
@@djLagwayEnjoyerall the avengers started out as good actors, I think many of them got too used to this marvel shit and lost it. Cough cough mark ruffalo
@@djLagwayEnjoyerbro, you can’t say that about Hemsworth or Natalie Portman, they are fantastic actors, blame the writers and producers for the mess this movie was
as another commenter joked: "Recent reports have indicated Christian Bale has been admitted into hospital with a severely injured back after carrying this entire movie"
@@Elvusmiw yes they are. They are the real devil. Not everyone who isn't human is evil. The only thing that defines who they are is what they choose to be now.
It's tragic that they killed off Gorr so soon. They could've had an entire saga around Gorr that could've led into the multiverse saga. Gorr could have been the main villain for like 2 phases.
We all wanted to be like Gorr in some capacity. If only he was real, he would seek out both heaven and earth to eradicate not just corrupt and unjust preachers but also to the gods of the main three religions composing of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
for Spider-Man Pre-phase 4 the villains were regular people who got fired because of Tony Stark he needs to arrest, No Way Home the villains were bad guys pulled from their world destined to die he needs to cure
It's scary how similar Gorr's story is to Kratos of God of War... But the former lost himself to vengeance while the latter found some semblance of peace and hope in his life.
In what way did Kratos find peace? He destroyed Olympus because of his vengeance and then died. Just cause he released the power of “hope” doesn’t mean he found peace.
@@lightningbolt4419 Clearly you haven't played the new GOW games. Ok I'll give you a brief summary, years later Kratos traveled to the realms of Norway mythology where he married a woman (later revealed to be a giant) named Faye whom they had a child named Atreus (later revealed to be Loki), there he lived in somewhat peace until Faye died of unknown reasons and jumpstart events where he and his son is hunted by Aesir Gods, namely Baldur, Odin and Thor. Kratos in that time is a lot more calm and reasonable than in his younger years. And with the ending of the last game let's say a lot will view him as a God who is worshipped and adored by many.
This conveys what happens when those in power forget that they have responsibilities to uphold, and that they have to reciprocate for those that work hard and put their trust in them. It also conveys what happens when those that make great promises break them on a mere whim.
Lets all take a moment to think about how the NecroSword here is one of the most practical looking swords in a superhero movie. It didn't need to be a massive unwieldy thing to be a real menacing presence on screen. From the general blade shape to its reasonably sized crossguard and proportional pommel. Now THIS is a sword. If you can't tell, I love swords.
this was an absolutely horrible impression of the comic necrosword... in the comics its the original symbiote, the precursor the Venom, Carnage and all the rest but a hell of a lot more powerful since it was made to kill celestials. it never has a fixed shaped and constantly shifts its form, 90% of the time Gorr doesn't even hold it, he wears it. They likely had to get rid of the symbiote link since they'd have to involve Sony to use it but there was nothing stopping it from still being a black mass capable of changing form other then them being to lazy with this movies visual effects (ahem, ahem). im even more annoyed they never bothered exploring its links to other cosmic things like it being responsible for beheading the celestial that became Knowhere.
Bcoz of this scene, KNULL is now verified! Upon learning that Knull will appear in Venom 3 (The Last Dance), Knull's previous involvement in the Thor 4 movie is validated!
As a loving father, I am certain Gorr comforted himself with the thought that his daughter is in a better place. That he would see her again. His 'god' proceeds to tell him "your daughter died for nothing and you will never see her again." Gorr is understandably ticked off.
Imagine the rest of the movie was written as well as this scene was… Edit: guys we get it, they didn’t put the entire lore backstory into an hour and a half movie so the sword was conveniently placed, doesn’t take 50 of you putting the same comment disagreeing, just hit the like button on the ones that have already commented.
I was on Gorr's side for this entire movie. I view the gods the same way some people would view the elites in our society. Self entitled narcissists who view the rest of us as nothing more than cogs in their machines.
The True God is nothing like these. Gorr wouldn't be able to do anything, and God probably wouldn't even attack him. God would probably use His powers to help Gorr find peace. 😊
It is really shame how this movie started off with such a strong and dark, yet meaningful opening… only to fall flat on its face the moment the next scene started
It was told from the point of view of the rock-man whose name constantly escapes me. That's why it went all corny-as-F! Didn't really resonate well with fans though. Ragnarok was soooo much better of a Thor movie.
Feel like marvel is really grasping at straw now that stan Lee died, it's like the initial sequence was what Stan Lee had imagined. Then it fell off since he died before completing it, and now we're left with garbage with no character development or lessons learned
One of, if not, the best openings in the MCU. Its cold, its weird in a good way, it establishes Gorr's motives excellently, it's nearly perfect. Even the dialogue, although a bit clunky and lacks subtext, is weird in a way that I can excuse when talking to an alien God
In 2011, marvel studios released Thor. A movie so good, most people don't even pay attention to the moral lesson, but they should! Because it's not just about a god taking his father's throne back from his brother, but also about an arrogant man finding love and humility. Hey Rapu!
Evryone saying how great Bale acting is ,but can we also appreciate the guy who plays Rapu too. He did a good job at making Rapu an obnoxious self centered God
What? That actor is so bad. His expressions are so over the top and stupid. I don't know how Christian Bale could keep in character after seeing that dude act.
Honestly I wouldn’t say it was comedy I would say more it was romantic comedy to be precise from someone who has watched romantic comedy movies all his life but definitely the movie script was all over the place.
Failed script indeed. I think Hemsworth was also aware of this but at the end of the day he gets paid to play Thor and he's ok with that no matter how the character is getting trashed by the writers.
@@frankiegalindo980 no it’s not garbage period. Morbius, Batman and Robin, Fan4tastic, Cats, Jack and Jill, Justice League 2017, The Emoji Movie and The Last Airbender are garbage movies. Love and Thunder is only hated because of the forced humour. Everything else is great
I remember coming in slightly late to the movie to this scene and thinking we had come into the wrong theater. Bale was unrecognizable and there was so much emotion in his portrayal, so unexpected for a Marvel movie. Everytime Bale appeared on screen throughout the movie, he made the tone change and made you forget it was a Marvel movie.
Just the lives of other species do not matter to us, we are gods to them, and yet we treat them in the same way we are mad at God for treating us. Hypocrites.
Not even kind of. Religion is so ubiquitous to humans it is the defining difference between man & animal. Atheists have always had negative birthrates. The only functioning people are religious
Gorr may have been the villain in this movie, but I have to admit he had good reason to slay this oversized selfish piece of crap who calls himself a sun God for his mockery of his very last of his followers. Good riddance to bad rubbish. 👎🏾
I have to agree even as a Christian. The God I worship is nothing like Rapu.Instead, God acts like a father who cares about his children. Part of the reason I serve him is because of the examples shown by the Saints.
@@Powerranger-le4up Yeah dude, even when people put up the argument that God was mean in the old testament, God changed a lot in the new testsment. The Christian God became more merciful, more loving and willing to listen. That's something not many gods in most if not any mythology do.
One thing I love about this film that was actually corroborated by the ending, is that Gorr was the antagonist but not necesarily the villain, and even more, he was absolutely right in that most gods (not all) are scum as proven by Zeus and the others. Like yeah, the film is coherent in establish that most Gods are simply not worthy of being worshipped
Even Zeus in real myths was an ass at times....he even stole a mortals wife and tricked her into sleeping with him because her beauty was far to great for a mere mortal. And also banished the husband when he tried to retaliate.
Actually, what I indeed respected about Thor was that he was finally able to reach out to Gorr. In the end, Thor decided not to pursue on stopping Gorr. Thor chose Love and chose to be with Jane Foster instead before she died. Gorr seeing this realized his goal was not all that futile in his last moments alive. That's why he chose his lone wish to Eternity to resurrect his daughter. In the end, Thor was not only at the side with his true Love Jane, but he was also beside Gorr during his last moments alive despite what he had done. His anger was driven because of a god he worshipped on his world betrayed him and his people. Even the mighty Zeus was scared of Gorr. But Thor, as all true hero risked it all rescuing his own people but sort of rescued Gorr as well. Both adversaries shared a pact together with Gorr asking Thor to take care of his daughter. That's why Thor (perhaps Captain Marvel as well) is the galaxy's mightiest hero post Endgame.
I love how Gorr waited till after he proclaimed his vow to strike the final blow so Rapu died thinking that all was lost, and his soul could not rest in peace. Brutal
In the comics, Gorr chooses to kill a god as soon as he sees one begging for help, because learning the gods are real makes him furious none of them ever helped. In this, the god is giving him every reason to kill him, making it way less impactful.
I do not blame him. Any mysterious villain has his own moral purpose to take revenge on those who are responsible for their greatest loss. Compassion is everything we would need to open their eyes and heart, it's because part of these certain characters, including Gorr, aren't truly dead.
The real question is who was that dead wielder it's definitely not knull doesn't actually look like him sorta looks more like a comic accurate but bald maleketh
What I like most about this character is the way he fights, men rush into battle using this sword as a stick swinging it around, but his form is insane, he uses it more like an extension of his body, dancing around his enemy till he hits the killing blow. It is very interesting to see.
I loved Christian Bale's portrayal, but I really do feel like he could have done so much more. This shows why direction and writing are paramount to a project's success. Bale did what he could and I love him for that because Gorr was a character I was excited about for years now. Sorry Taika, this time didn't work so well.
The movie still received an overall B rating. Thor: Love & Thunder showed further maturity in elevating Thor's benevolent character. Despite the arguments over Thor's power levels in the MCU, Thor is number one a protector. It was displayed throughout all of the key MCU movies. Thor's depression in Endgame was beautifully portrayed. He felt that he had failed. In Thor: Love & Thunder, post Endgame, he's driven once again to live life to the fullest with purpose. His brief sabbatical with the Guardians of the Galaxy restored his purpose as a hero and protector. Thor losing Jane Foster in the end had to have been heartbreaking again for our hero. But to a degree, both Thor and Gorr helped each other in the end. Gorr asking Thor to take care of his daughter helped Thor get over another heartbreak of him losing his greatest love Jane Foster. And replacing that brief emptiness with Love, Gorr's beloved daughter. Personally, I enjoyed the movie.
Worse: Every time Gorr tries to recenter the scenario on what should have been the true subject (the moral implications and questionning his character is supposed to bring), they didn't take the bait; meaning that the movie didn't need specificly Gorr as antagonist. Results?: Thor stay the same for the whole movie.
In this scene, Christian bale nearly dies of starvation and thirst and eats and drinks just as if he did. He intones a loving, devoted supplication to his God. He realizes said god is a rich douche who doesn't care about him, shattering his whole world in a second. He reaches down and pulls off his medallion and it's like the temperature of the room changes.
Hitler is a prime example of this. At the end of WWI the allies put extremely harsh and insulting conditions on the Germans, that militant groups thrived in the injustice imposed upon them. Making it easier for the evil of the Nazis to grow. Yet, people still haven’t learned this lesson.
The continuity of the food around Gorr’s mouth in this scene is absolutely shocking. Food swaps sides, his face is clean, then covered in seeds, then clean again.
OK, but can we just take a moment to also appreciate the performance of New Zealand comedian Jonathan Brugh as Rapu here? For someone who normally plays comedy roles, he managed to play Rapu as a complete asshole, to the point where everyone was cheering Gorr for killing him. Not a bad achievement for only a few minutes of screen time.
I read some time ago "If you want to see the best actors, you should normally look among villains and bad guys...most people can play a good guy convincingly, few people can play the antagonist well" Reason as to why, whenever someone asks me who is my favourite HP actor/actress is, I usually answer "Imelda Staunton"
@@DonPatrono I agree, I HATED Imelda Staunton LOL, she nailed that character to a T. You're right, anyone can play the hero but playing the villain is much harder. I take my hat off to Jonathan Brough here, being able to play both comedy roles and a hissable villain equally well, takes serious acting chops.
I cried when his daughter died and than director's tried to turn this into a comedy...This movie could've absolutely been one of the best of this century just based on the first 10 minutes.
Yeah. That's why I don't find it too surprising that, as much of an ass as Rapu was, he still managed to kill the Necrosword's previous wielder. He was still pretty powerful.
@@Kayoss13212yeah unlike humans who are totally not enamored with themselves while viewing themselves as superior to everyone, they are totally different beings.
God this movie could’ve been soooooooo so good. This scene, the black and white planet, Jane’s death, they were so good. Its such a shame how the rest of the movie turned out
The moment they announced Gorr was the villain I knew we were in trouble. Even though as much as I love Taika, Ragnarok was perfect because it centered around Thors redemption arc so the villain was just an obstacle but Gorr as a character requires empathy and sympathy for the character to truly experience his level of danger and motives which were completely lost in this film
Ragnarok had already failed that test with the way it killed off Thor's sidekicks in a way that seemed like it should've had a wilhelm scream attached.
How grey Gorr looks and he's wearing what appears to be philosopher's robes of poverty, the sword is plain so it is the sword of truth. Gorr must represents the age of reason. Reason and truth is what killed the Gods and took away their power. Gorr is cold hard reality.
This was an excellent intro scene for Thor: Love and Thunder. Rapu received a justified taste of his self-centered arrogance. Rapu was a false deluded god. Thor at times in some of the classic Marvel stories also received a taste of his own medicine because of his bragging arrogance. A lot of that had to do with Odin. That's why unlike many of the hardcore Thor fans, I thoroughly enjoy the MCU version of Thor. Thor's MCU version show's Thor's breakdowns and ultimately how he overcomes his flaws. Thor is technically the glue throughout the MCU movies.
He had such a good story that it doesn't even sound like a villain story at all, too bad that the rest of the shitty plot couldn't do justice to his character, he deserved a whole series
Funny how all the events in action were sparked off by Rapu being an asshat. Even a little bit of empathy and compassion, he and the other gods would have presumably lived, and the necrosword gone to an unknown fate. Price of hubris and callousness.
Recent reports have indicated Christian Bale has been admitted into hospital with a severely injured back after carrying this entire movie
I think that’s why the movie looks bad
His acting skills are too good for a marvel film
The movie is bad because of the writer and the director, not the actors. The script was shit and the movie was lgbt-ized which added to the overall bitterness.
@@djdoomy still my point remains firm because despite everything you mentioned above, bale still excelled with his performance
can't agree more
Hah nice and so true 😂
The balls on Gorr to renounce his god right in front of him, no wonder why the sword chose him.
Hey, we all want to achieve this at some point. Maybe expose preachers and priests of any religion of your preference their bad, malicious and "touchy" habits (especially on children) in front of the people.
@@AccipiterSmith Homosexuals also have a higher rate of pedophilia, gays are 1-2% of the population but do around half of the child rapes, what about them, hypocrite?
@@AccipiterSmith you think that solves the problem? Then the Darwinian and militant atheistic heads of state get to torment and liquidate the population, oh wait, we had that already... pol pot, stalin and adolph.
Worship false gods, you will never find peace, you will be disappointed. Worship Allah alone. You will find peace and be happiness, Allah truly loves you and is most merciful. There is no God expect Allah. AllahuAkbar! ALLAH IS WAY POWERFUL BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION, BEYONG WHAT YOU SEE ON MARVEL. HE CANNOT BE COMPARED. FEAR ALLAH AND ACCEPT ISLAM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. WORSHIP ALLAH AND PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY, praying 5 times a day only takes 50 minutes in total out of 24 hours you have every day. There is Eternal reward only with Allah alone! Allah was literally using these actors to teach a lesson, false Gods are deceivers, renounce them and accept Allah alone.
@@HelpQasimFirst why not put some fat lard in your lips so they can chase you down like an animal, a good fitness exercise perfect for you.
Wish they kept this seriousness the entire film, it looks like a fire movie when you just see this scene
I seriously thought this Kratos movie 💀 never watch thor 4
That’s because it’s Christian bale. He’s the only legitimate actor in the film. Most others are just run of the mill Hollywood actors
@@djLagwayEnjoyerall the avengers started out as good actors, I think many of them got too used to this marvel shit and lost it. Cough cough mark ruffalo
@@djLagwayEnjoyerbro, you can’t say that about Hemsworth or Natalie Portman, they are fantastic actors, blame the writers and producers for the mess this movie was
@@alextomulescu4593 hemsworth is ok. He’s not even close to bales level. He’s kinda like the rock. Just a major star with mediocre acting chops
"my daughter died... in your name..."
good lord, christian bale was too good for this movie
as another commenter joked: "Recent reports have indicated Christian Bale has been admitted into hospital with a severely injured back after carrying this entire movie"
I only watch his scenes. Makes for a better movie.
Went from Christian bale to atheist bale
This is gold
I don't get it. He still believed in them. Knows they clearly exist.
@@kyateelvin8746 No, the blood of Rapu was gold.... :P
@@dakotastricklin9596 antithiest bale, then
😂😂
Gorr’s motivation made perfect sense. But by the end of the movie he’s died and I guess our heroes didn’t learn anything
Gorr should've been the main character instead of Thor.
He died and nothing changed, the more you think about this movie worse it gets
Like always
Gods are still stupid?
@@Elvusmiw yes they are. They are the real devil. Not everyone who isn't human is evil. The only thing that defines who they are is what they choose to be now.
Christian Bale acting in this scene has more weight than entire MCU
So true
The d riding is crazy bro forgot Samuel Jackson and all them mfs
Entire movie*
That's why he's the true Batman!
@@deepakmarathe7347 Entire MCU period.*
Can't blame him. Imagine working overtime and sacrificing your health, family and personal happiness only to be given the pink slip by the boss.
Falling Down (1993). If only Mr Foster was given the necrosword.
That’s a perfect simile with equally justified outcomes
so its like believing jeeluws?
@mrorange3490 It's an exemple with lower stakes, it holds. Working overtime isn't like living through catastrophes either.
...so basically Lorgar
It's tragic that they killed off Gorr so soon. They could've had an entire saga around Gorr that could've led into the multiverse saga. Gorr could have been the main villain for like 2 phases.
in the comics, Gorr was so dangerous that it took present day Thor teaming up with his past self and future self to defeat him
ikr wasted potential and bale’s acting was great
One of the MCU’s biggest issues is it’s tendency to kill off villains in their first movie appearances.
I don't think they have enough budget for bale's talent.
Wasted chance to use Bale’s acting range. He would have been glorious as a franchise villain.
Bales face transition from thinking they were laughing together to realizing they were laughing at him... what an awesome actor!
Every Thor villain was like "HaHa We are Evil!"(with the sorta exception of Loki).
Then here comes Gorr...With a very justified Reason to kill gods.
We all wanted to be like Gorr in some capacity. If only he was real, he would seek out both heaven and earth to eradicate not just corrupt and unjust preachers but also to the gods of the main three religions composing of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
for Spider-Man Pre-phase 4 the villains were regular people who got fired because of Tony Stark he needs to arrest,
No Way Home the villains were bad guys pulled from their world destined to die he needs to cure
Then all he does is kill some gods off screen then kidnaps some kids
@@AccipiterSmithtf
Justified for killing Raku sure but the others didn’t wrong him personally so 🤷♂️
Gorr is the real protagonist of this film
Yes
Gorr was just Bruce Wayne years after The Dark Knight trilogy
So yes he's the *REAL* protagonist
will all i know about the MCU multiverse there always a Gorr & other MCU guys if they pass away in the main MCU time line
Just like how Thanos is the true main character of Infinity War.
@@sirorliktheironclad yes
@@sirorliktheironclad Thanos was an idiot.
It's scary how similar Gorr's story is to Kratos of God of War... But the former lost himself to vengeance while the latter found some semblance of peace and hope in his life.
Maybe if Gorr had some more time like Kratos did...
@@draugr121 would love a movie just about gorr with a dark tone
In what way did Kratos find peace? He destroyed Olympus because of his vengeance and then died. Just cause he released the power of “hope” doesn’t mean he found peace.
@@lightningbolt4419 Clearly you haven't played the new GOW games.
Ok I'll give you a brief summary, years later Kratos traveled to the realms of Norway mythology where he married a woman (later revealed to be a giant) named Faye whom they had a child named Atreus (later revealed to be Loki), there he lived in somewhat peace until Faye died of unknown reasons and jumpstart events where he and his son is hunted by Aesir Gods, namely Baldur, Odin and Thor. Kratos in that time is a lot more calm and reasonable than in his younger years. And with the ending of the last game let's say a lot will view him as a God who is worshipped and adored by many.
@@trollmaster4523 God of war is based in greek mythology
"This sword is one of the only things that can kill me. Better leave it close by in case anyone wants to use it"
Too arrogant to be prudent. Arrogance overrides all common sense.
This conveys what happens when those in power forget that they have responsibilities to uphold, and that they have to reciprocate for those that work hard and put their trust in them. It also conveys what happens when those that make great promises break them on a mere whim.
Lets all take a moment to think about how the NecroSword here is one of the most practical looking swords in a superhero movie. It didn't need to be a massive unwieldy thing to be a real menacing presence on screen. From the general blade shape to its reasonably sized crossguard and proportional pommel. Now THIS is a sword.
If you can't tell, I love swords.
Amen, friend!
it doesn't need to look scary to be scary basically
Dude it's a basic Long Sword The God Butcher All Black The Necro Sword is supposed to be more intimidating not this.
Not every day you run into a sword nerd. A respectable branch I say. Keep at it 👊😎
this was an absolutely horrible impression of the comic necrosword... in the comics its the original symbiote, the precursor the Venom, Carnage and all the rest but a hell of a lot more powerful since it was made to kill celestials. it never has a fixed shaped and constantly shifts its form, 90% of the time Gorr doesn't even hold it, he wears it. They likely had to get rid of the symbiote link since they'd have to involve Sony to use it but there was nothing stopping it from still being a black mass capable of changing form other then them being to lazy with this movies visual effects (ahem, ahem). im even more annoyed they never bothered exploring its links to other cosmic things like it being responsible for beheading the celestial that became Knowhere.
Bale is the only actor that can turn a kids movie into some seriously hardcore acting scene.
🤣
I genuinely got startled when he popped up in the flying bus thing
Cage
Seriously, this turn sets the tone for an entirely different movie to the one we got
Gorr was the best MCU villain next to Thanos. Villains that make you hate them or side with and understand them are always the greats
Gorr is my #1 favorite Thor villain. He's my 3rd favorite villain, no disrespect to your motivation
Kratos
The MCU is trying so hard to tell us who the real heroes are
Green Goblin?
Nah, he's no Green Goblin
0:25 i like the added dragon fruit ontop of the pile of fruits. Thing looks alien enough, fits perfectly 🤣
Agreed
Bcoz of this scene, KNULL is now verified!
Upon learning that Knull will appear in Venom 3 (The Last Dance), Knull's previous involvement in the Thor 4 movie is validated!
No
As a loving father, I am certain Gorr comforted himself with the thought that his daughter is in a better place. That he would see her again.
His 'god' proceeds to tell him "your daughter died for nothing and you will never see her again."
Gorr is understandably ticked off.
"A little upset" you might even say !
@@Toto-95 Understatement.
Perhaps a tad bit annoyed
Mildly displeased
Enraged more like and furious that this being he worshipped did nothing 1:06
Proof that Batman is in fact capable of killing gods
Can't wait till someone kills Yahweh, that god ticks me off.
Can I have the Necro sword? 🗡️
More like Howl Pendragon
In his dreams lol😂
@@HanginWitLucid He did killed god canonically.
@@danialzulkarnain1680 Name the comic and issue number…
Imagine the rest of the movie was written as well as this scene was…
Edit: guys we get it, they didn’t put the entire lore backstory into an hour and a half movie so the sword was conveniently placed, doesn’t take 50 of you putting the same comment disagreeing, just hit the like button on the ones that have already commented.
Too bad it wasn't, this is the only good thing to come out of the movie.
You gotta love Bale, man always delivers his best.
It really wasn’t the convenience of the Sword just being there and the dialogue isn’t great
@@firstlast9846don’t often say this but you’re opinion sucks
I know right? I was like.. wow this is dark and emotional, no joke joke joke every 5 min to be seen in this scene.
"It feels like a promise."
A perfect way of ending that scene.
Kratos: “So…you hate gods too, huh?”
This scene where gorr is eating the fruit and then the god got upset at him for eating his fruit, made me feel bad for him and cry for some reason.
Probably cause that god is uncaring or something
@@benmunn7593 mhm
Probably because you have a heart.
@@brycebanaszak8559 thx
Probably u have to spread hate against gods 😁😁
I was on Gorr's side for this entire movie. I view the gods the same way some people would view the elites in our society. Self entitled narcissists who view the rest of us as nothing more than cogs in their machines.
Exactly. 100%
More like ants
🙌 yes true
The True God is nothing like these. Gorr wouldn't be able to do anything, and God probably wouldn't even attack him. God would probably use His powers to help Gorr find peace. 😊
@@MADMikey04 you mean the god in the bible or Book of Mormon or the qoran
You either die a DC Hero or live long enough to see yourself a MCU villain
The funny thing is he lived on as the hero but died as the villain
the funny thing is that both bale and keaton played batman,son you either die as batman or live long enough to see yourself a mcu villan
In DC, they become hero, while they meet stan lee, they become villain
@@sanstheskeleton9874 Huh, Keaton was really good as Vulture too... maybe that's how we save the MCU. Add Batmen.
Is that you Dent?😂
The way the sword just slowly moves and creeps its way to his hand in its scenes is so ominous.
Gorr deserved a series
One movie wasn't enough
It is really shame how this movie started off with such a strong and dark, yet meaningful opening… only to fall flat on its face the moment the next scene started
It was told from the point of view of the rock-man whose name constantly escapes me. That's why it went all corny-as-F! Didn't really resonate well with fans though. Ragnarok was soooo much better of a Thor movie.
@@michaelshrader5139kragor or something like that? The goofy Australian rock guy who played video games?
Feel like marvel is really grasping at straw now that stan Lee died, it's like the initial sequence was what Stan Lee had imagined. Then it fell off since he died before completing it, and now we're left with garbage with no character development or lessons learned
One of, if not, the best openings in the MCU. Its cold, its weird in a good way, it establishes Gorr's motives excellently, it's nearly perfect. Even the dialogue, although a bit clunky and lacks subtext, is weird in a way that I can excuse when talking to an alien God
It could definitely be better… but as far as MCU openings nah - it’s written poorly
@@firstlast9846 You wanna know how they should make in Thor 4 and Thor 2 in my opinion??
@@renanmesquita8527 do tell
Hey ninny nonny
@@firstlast9846lol as far as MCU openings it's brilliant
In 2011, marvel studios released Thor. A movie so good, most people don't even pay attention to the moral lesson, but they should! Because it's not just about a god taking his father's throne back from his brother, but also about an arrogant man finding love and humility. Hey Rapu!
Actually it was Paramount Pictures that released Thor 1.
Proceeds to chop him up with the Necrosword.
American psycho vibes 🧐
@@eobardthawne5246 Paramount distributed Thor 1 but the movie is still made by Marvel Studios.
What are you talking about? A 6 year old would understand what the moral lesson of Thor was.
Evryone saying how great Bale acting is ,but can we also appreciate the guy who plays Rapu too. He did a good job at making Rapu an obnoxious self centered God
What? That actor is so bad. His expressions are so over the top and stupid. I don't know how Christian Bale could keep in character after seeing that dude act.
This film is not worthy of Bale's talent.
Best scene in the entire film!
It seems that they started with good will and then...
@@ViT_aL_ and then it continued throughout the film
The only good scene.
@@hectorhernandezaleman3836 Dead wrong
@@hectorhernandezaleman3836 they should film with only Cristian bale
Such an amazing start wasted on a failed script of cringe comedy. Christian Bale was 90% of the movie.
What did you expect it's taika watiti
honestly if they just cut out half the comedy and added gorr to half those comedy scenes it’d be a top 10 mcu movie
Honestly I wouldn’t say it was comedy I would say more it was romantic comedy to be precise from someone who has watched romantic comedy movies all his life but definitely the movie script was all over the place.
Failed script indeed. I think Hemsworth was also aware of this but at the end of the day he gets paid to play Thor and he's ok with that no matter how the character is getting trashed by the writers.
@@joestar.random He did such an amazing job is Gorr I just think the comedy overweighed the script.
I haven't seen Love and Thunder, but apparently this is the only God he ever kills in the entire movie and it was in self-defense.
It's the only god he kills on screen, the movie isn't great that's for sure.
@@jordanthemcuguy7325but it isn’t garbage, despite people insisting that it is
@@Jackferrett6781 It’s not garbage compared to say… the 2015 Fantastic Four movie.
@@frankiegalindo980 no it’s not garbage period. Morbius, Batman and Robin, Fan4tastic, Cats, Jack and Jill, Justice League 2017, The Emoji Movie and The Last Airbender are garbage movies. Love and Thunder is only hated because of the forced humour. Everything else is great
@@Jackferrett6781 But I wish Taika Waititi could’ve taken it easy with the comedy and given us more of Christian Bale’s Gorr The God Butcher.
I remember coming in slightly late to the movie to this scene and thinking we had come into the wrong theater. Bale was unrecognizable and there was so much emotion in his portrayal, so unexpected for a Marvel movie. Everytime Bale appeared on screen throughout the movie, he made the tone change and made you forget it was a Marvel movie.
Knull brought me here lol
This scene proves kratos' point, lives of men never mattered to the gods.
Men should not pray to monsters- kratos 2018
There are no "good" gods boy, thought I taught you that.
ie gods that are fallen angels(demons) masking as gods... The Real God is Jesus Christ
Just the lives of other species do not matter to us, we are gods to them, and yet we treat them in the same way we are mad at God for treating us. Hypocrites.
Not even kind of.
Religion is so ubiquitous to humans it is the defining difference between man & animal.
Atheists have always had negative birthrates.
The only functioning people are religious
Gorr may have been the villain in this movie, but I have to admit he had good reason to slay this oversized selfish piece of crap who calls himself a sun God for his mockery of his very last of his followers.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. 👎🏾
Indeed
Buddy are you so not wrong
I have to agree even as a Christian. The God I worship is nothing like Rapu.Instead, God acts like a father who cares about his children. Part of the reason I serve him is because of the examples shown by the Saints.
@@Powerranger-le4up
Yeah dude, even when people put up the argument that God was mean in the old testament, God changed a lot in the new testsment. The Christian God became more merciful, more loving and willing to listen. That's something not many gods in most if not any mythology do.
@@Powerranger-le4upAmen.
It's why I'm glad that the Lord Jesus is nothing like that selfish hedonist Rapu.
One thing I love about this film that was actually corroborated by the ending, is that Gorr was the antagonist but not necesarily the villain, and even more, he was absolutely right in that most gods (not all) are scum as proven by Zeus and the others. Like yeah, the film is coherent in establish that most Gods are simply not worthy of being worshipped
Even Zeus in real myths was an ass at times....he even stole a mortals wife and tricked her into sleeping with him because her beauty was far to great for a mere mortal.
And also banished the husband when he tried to retaliate.
@@captaincrum1 an ass? He cursed prometheus to die every day by a eagle eating his liver.
@@JimmyBoy9878This dude even sleeps with women against their will and even turned into a swan and screw a woman as one
Lol, even Thor is a self obsessed narcissist throughout.
Actually, what I indeed respected about Thor was that he was finally able to reach out to Gorr. In the end, Thor decided not to pursue on stopping Gorr. Thor chose Love and chose to be with Jane Foster instead before she died. Gorr seeing this realized his goal was not all that futile in his last moments alive. That's why he chose his lone wish to Eternity to resurrect his daughter. In the end, Thor was not only at the side with his true Love Jane, but he was also beside Gorr during his last moments alive despite what he had done. His anger was driven because of a god he worshipped on his world betrayed him and his people. Even the mighty Zeus was scared of Gorr. But Thor, as all true hero risked it all rescuing his own people but sort of rescued Gorr as well. Both adversaries shared a pact together with Gorr asking Thor to take care of his daughter. That's why Thor (perhaps Captain Marvel as well) is the galaxy's mightiest hero post Endgame.
I love how Gorr waited till after he proclaimed his vow to strike the final blow so Rapu died thinking that all was lost, and his soul could not rest in peace. Brutal
Bale in love and thunder: oscar worthy
Every1 else in love and thunder: razzie worthy
In the comics, Gorr chooses to kill a god as soon as he sees one begging for help, because learning the gods are real makes him furious none of them ever helped. In this, the god is giving him every reason to kill him, making it way less impactful.
literally kratos
Agreed. The books are far better.
@@ArmoredG in case you forgot, kratos is literally ripped off of hercules.
Modern film for the modern audience. The comic was too meaningful and thoughtful for modern directors and the audiences they are targeting.
And yet its still the only good scene in the movie
I do not blame him. Any mysterious villain has his own moral purpose to take revenge on those who are responsible for their greatest loss. Compassion is everything we would need to open their eyes and heart, it's because part of these certain characters, including Gorr, aren't truly dead.
"Some men just want to watch the world burn"
How did this clown managed to kill a blade wielder?
THAT is what I want to see
The Sword is said to slowly kill its user overtime. So perhaps the the previous user was on its last legs when the god encountered him.
@@eaglecola4285 well, wasnt they in the lands of this clow...god? Looks like the previous owner came to the clow...god by himself
The real question is who was that dead wielder it's definitely not knull doesn't actually look like him sorta looks more like a comic accurate but bald maleketh
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that this clown killed the last holder. So I’m gonna go with the curse of the Necrosword.
I still could not get behind this guy as a bad guy. He was the good guy in this movie
He is not a good guy in this movie u fool.
What I like most about this character is the way he fights, men rush into battle using this sword as a stick swinging it around, but his form is insane, he uses it more like an extension of his body, dancing around his enemy till he hits the killing blow. It is very interesting to see.
I loved Christian Bale's portrayal, but I really do feel like he could have done so much more. This shows why direction and writing are paramount to a project's success. Bale did what he could and I love him for that because Gorr was a character I was excited about for years now. Sorry Taika, this time didn't work so well.
Taika is a shit director. Even Jojo was successful because it's already easy to ridicule Hitler.
The movie still received an overall B rating. Thor: Love & Thunder showed further maturity in elevating Thor's benevolent character. Despite the arguments over Thor's power levels in the MCU, Thor is number one a protector. It was displayed throughout all of the key MCU movies. Thor's depression in Endgame was beautifully portrayed. He felt that he had failed. In Thor: Love & Thunder, post Endgame, he's driven once again to live life to the fullest with purpose. His brief sabbatical with the Guardians of the Galaxy restored his purpose as a hero and protector. Thor losing Jane Foster in the end had to have been heartbreaking again for our hero. But to a degree, both Thor and Gorr helped each other in the end. Gorr asking Thor to take care of his daughter helped Thor get over another heartbreak of him losing his greatest love Jane Foster. And replacing that brief emptiness with Love, Gorr's beloved daughter. Personally, I enjoyed the movie.
Worse: Every time Gorr tries to recenter the scenario on what should have been the true subject (the moral implications and questionning his character is supposed to bring), they didn't take the bait; meaning that the movie didn't need specificly Gorr as antagonist. Results?: Thor stay the same for the whole movie.
@@toddsands6000 shut the fvcc vp lol lol all that talk and you cant see it lol the movie was trash because made fun of thor and gorr that it lol
Christian Bale acting is worth more then the MCU just on this scene . What an incredible actor!!!!
Christian Bale is too good for the mcu.
@@LordMalice6d9good thing this was a one off then
There are many performances in mcu better than this
Funny how people jumps on hate bandwagon because of one bad phase
@@nutsfromberserk247 I agree, people are on a hate bandwagon just because this phase wasn’t Infinity war level
@@HanginWitLucid yeah i don't see them praising mcu when it was at it's peak but when it had one bad phase all of them are out here crying
In this scene, Christian bale nearly dies of starvation and thirst and eats and drinks just as if he did.
He intones a loving, devoted supplication to his God.
He realizes said god is a rich douche who doesn't care about him, shattering his whole world in a second.
He reaches down and pulls off his medallion and it's like the temperature of the room changes.
If you watch a compilation of only Gorr’s scenes, this movie actually looks pretty decent.
I like villains with backstories of revenge. Gorr is one of my favorite one's.
Evil isn’t born,it is created…
We know…
@@DunkIeosteus Yes you know…
Hitler is a prime example of this. At the end of WWI the allies put extremely harsh and insulting conditions on the Germans, that militant groups thrived in the injustice imposed upon them. Making it easier for the evil of the Nazis to grow. Yet, people still haven’t learned this lesson.
Bullshit
Jack Horner
"See, now you respect me. Because I'm a threat"
Wow, Rapu has such a black heart but still bleeds gold.
In Greek mythology gods had golden blood called icor. Maybe it is something similar?
ICHOR*, but yes, spot on! :)@@ArbiterofTruth
He's a false deity that deserved to be renounced.
And he deserved to die with his blackheart.
I think it's because Rapu was a sun- god, so his blood, like his outfit, resembles golden sunlight.
But, yeah, his heart was black as tar.
I fail to see what makes him a villain, this seems like a perfectly reasonable response
This movie’s concept had so much potential just to be completely wasted
Sometimes the people you think are the villain is really the victim
Like the Palestinians.
@@nazmulslater8398Boom
Bingo
@@nazmulslater8398nah, kidnaping, raping and murdering thousands of people... No, you can't call yourself a victim after that.
Imagine if gorr turn into kratos killing the entire mcu by himself 💀
Most characters deserve it, remember, heroes are a small minority, shit people are more abundant
“ZEUS! YOUR SON HAS RETURNED! I COME SEEKING THE WEED OF OLYMPUS!”
I would pay for an entire What If...? Two hour movie of that with Christian Bale reprising his role.
@@dellebelphine-moralez3510 “you will never get the cabbage of the gods”
@@user-oe4gq9ww9j ughh!!! DO NOT DENY ME MY DOOBIE!!!!
this movie had such potential. this opening was so good, in comparison to the rest of the movie.
Ikr i walked out of the theater after 45 minutes or so. Movie was garbage
Gorr. Got to respect that man. He stood up for he's right to live.
Its a shame that they introduced the necrosword & probably wont have it do anything with the nexbVenom movie thats inteoducing freggin KNULL.
One of the most justifiable deaths in film history. So awesome.
I love how everyone in this universe is like "nothing you can do against the cosmos" untill someone does, then they ban together to stop him
"Billions can die in our name, thats fine. Oh you're killing us because you dont like that? We must hunt you down"
Say what you will about this movie, but you gotta admit this scene is amazing.
Huh?
🫡
I remember Christian Bale reading the script and saying “well I can do something interesting with this”.
Imagine the gods we pray to are really like that 🙂
By all accounts, they are.
The continuity of the food around Gorr’s mouth in this scene is absolutely shocking. Food swaps sides, his face is clean, then covered in seeds, then clean again.
The thought of him taking bites and wiping his mouth while Rapu is shitting on him is hilarious
It's so bad my parents noticed it the first time we watch the movie, and they never notice shit like that.
Christian Bale bringing Oscar level acting to MCU.
OK, but can we just take a moment to also appreciate the performance of New Zealand comedian Jonathan Brugh as Rapu here? For someone who normally plays comedy roles, he managed to play Rapu as a complete asshole, to the point where everyone was cheering Gorr for killing him. Not a bad achievement for only a few minutes of screen time.
Agreed!
I read some time ago "If you want to see the best actors, you should normally look among villains and bad guys...most people can play a good guy convincingly, few people can play the antagonist well"
Reason as to why, whenever someone asks me who is my favourite HP actor/actress is, I usually answer "Imelda Staunton"
@@DonPatrono I agree, I HATED Imelda Staunton LOL, she nailed that character to a T. You're right, anyone can play the hero but playing the villain is much harder. I take my hat off to Jonathan Brough here, being able to play both comedy roles and a hissable villain equally well, takes serious acting chops.
From American Psycho to Celestial Psycho.
Edit : Imagine Kratos and Gorr teaming up
I cried when his daughter died and than director's tried to turn this into a comedy...This movie could've absolutely been one of the best of this century just based on the first 10 minutes.
2:21 That hyperspeed made a character/Rapu who so ridiculously designed look so badass. I think Rapu is high level God.
Sun gods typically are
Yeah.
That's why I don't find it too surprising that, as much of an ass as Rapu was, he still managed to kill the Necrosword's previous wielder.
He was still pretty powerful.
Gorr was completely justified here and his point is proven further when Zeus denies Thor any help whatsoever
It goes to show the ego and narcissism of the gods. They just love being loved.
@@Kayoss13212yeah unlike humans who are totally not enamored with themselves while viewing themselves as superior to everyone, they are totally different beings.
taking never meet your heroes to a whole new meaning
God this movie could’ve been soooooooo so good. This scene, the black and white planet, Jane’s death, they were so good. Its such a shame how the rest of the movie turned out
Think I would’ve preferred the whole movie just been about Gorr. He becomes focused on revenge and slaughters the gods. That’s all I needed.
Now lets see Paul Allen’s Necrosword.
Lets see Paul Allen’s sword….
It’s Morbin time 😂😂😂😂😂
Did anyone else noticed when christian bales face was inverted...?
Yeah it's true. Do you know why they did it?
@@vitovogler4238 i do not
Never would have thought Bale would turn in one of his best performances in a Thor film.
This is deep when you tapped in
I loved the part where he said it's gorring time and proceeded to gorr all over the place
Funny, this is one of my favourite scenes from marvel. I wish the rest of the movie matched the tone of this. It had so much potential
a film just about gorr being a godslayer like kratos would’ve been levels better than the shitshow we were handed.
This video truly shows that villains are made, not born
You can hate the movie but this scene is amazing!
The moment they announced Gorr was the villain I knew we were in trouble. Even though as much as I love Taika, Ragnarok was perfect because it centered around Thors redemption arc so the villain was just an obstacle but Gorr as a character requires empathy and sympathy for the character to truly experience his level of danger and motives which were completely lost in this film
Ragnarok had already failed that test with the way it killed off Thor's sidekicks in a way that seemed like it should've had a wilhelm scream attached.
Ragnarok was the best Thor movie but it’s greatest failure was how it butchered one of the best Marvel storylines in the comics, Planet Hulk.
How grey Gorr looks and he's wearing what appears to be philosopher's robes of poverty, the sword is plain so it is the sword of truth. Gorr must represents the age of reason. Reason and truth is what killed the Gods and took away their power. Gorr is cold hard reality.
This was an excellent intro scene for Thor: Love and Thunder. Rapu received a justified taste of his self-centered arrogance. Rapu was a false deluded god. Thor at times in some of the classic Marvel stories also received a taste of his own medicine because of his bragging arrogance. A lot of that had to do with Odin. That's why unlike many of the hardcore Thor fans, I thoroughly enjoy the MCU version of Thor. Thor's MCU version show's Thor's breakdowns and ultimately how he overcomes his flaws. Thor is technically the glue throughout the MCU movies.
He had such a good story that it doesn't even sound like a villain story at all, too bad that the rest of the shitty plot couldn't do justice to his character, he deserved a whole series
GORR: I AM A GOD SLAYER
KRATOS: HOLD MY BEER WE NEED TO TALK MY FRIEND
Funny how all the events in action were sparked off by Rapu being an asshat. Even a little bit of empathy and compassion, he and the other gods would have presumably lived, and the necrosword gone to an unknown fate. Price of hubris and callousness.
That false God and asshole got what he deserved.
ironically Rapu just turn his worshiper into a God Slayer inadvertently because of his ego, led to his own demise
“You’re correct Gorr. I will do my duty as your god and give you eternal reward”
good ending
2:43 I like how his eyes change color soo smoothly
how arent they doing a full movie about him? this is just great!