Is John Tavares OUT as the Leafs' captain?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Sid and Devo discuss John Tavares and the potential for him to be replaced as captain by Auston Matthews
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lmao......perfect
Tavares isn’t the problem. He’s not the answer but to strip the C would be a Ballard type of move.
why? Tavares never showed any leadership on that team. He was a ghost in the playoff last year...
@@thai2go The best captain in my time watching the leafs is Wendel Clark. With all his passion and skill, the Buds accomplished nothing. Same with Sundin and Gilmour. Phaneuf? Lol. Ramage? Lol. Even in Edmonton with McDavid winning the Conn Smythe… he’s accomplished nothing from a team perspective… just individual awards. The problem in TO is management… they suck because it’s about money, not championships. The Leafs fans are kind of like Edmonton fans… a bit whiney but at least the Oilers have won the cup 5 times in the past 50 years (6 if you include the New York Oilers of 1994).
Sid's right. TML faces way more important tasks than swapping out the C.
its not about the "C " . .Its about sending him a message that they dont want him here .Hopefully taking the C off him will open his eyes and he will waive his NMC .He is still an ok player but not at $11M cap hit .If he was making half of that everything would be fine .The only way this team will complete next year is if they get rid of his $11M cap hit .Otherwise its another 1st round exit .Mark my words
@@JonJ-i5u oh I agree with you, man! In fact, I'd prefer they retain him - at no more than 5M per. He'd be a great 3C.
No Marner news let’s pick on Johnny Toronto , the media in this town is a joke
why not pick on him? He is the 2nd hightest paid player and he got only 60 points while playing with 3 superstars on the 1st power play unit .HEs a loser .
I don't know why you would do that as no one else on the team has proven themselves to be a leader. Tavares, who's admittedly lost a step, has the necessary maturity of a leader and his loyalty to the Leafs has never been in question. The same can't be said of the rest of the core who are more than willing to sell their services to the highest bidder year in and year out.
@@lpquagmire3621 He’s the guy who always has to speak to the media about the team’s failures. That’s not easy to do in any hockey market but brutal in TO and MTL.
@@BramStoked-uq4hp Maybe its time for Auston to face the music...
@@chrisbee9643 I’m all for that if they trade JT. Good luck in that meat grinder #34. But I think Reilly seems to have the best temperament to be Captain.
@@chrisbee9643 Austin ALWAYS faces the media, and he carries the team on his back, night in, night out! Led the league in takeaways, led the league in goals TWICE, and led all forwards in blocked shots, without playing on the PK....the guy is a machine!
@@chrishogan8125 yes. In regular season... This year was the first time he showed up at the play offs...
Tavares is a class act. He’s a leader on and off the ice. Taking the C off this guy, is a no class move.
Class act ? how is he a class act ?? demanding $11M a year before we won a dam thing ? Granted Dubas was foolish enough to give to him but he could have done the classy thing 6 years ago and taken a hometown discount of say $8.5M a year .THEN he would be a class act . Look at Stamkos .only made $8.5 M the last few years and brought 2 cups ( and another finals apperarance ) to Tampa .Looks at SId ? $8.7 M a year and he also brought 3 CUps home .THOSE guys are class acts all the way .Tavares is a lose take the C off him and hopfully he will get the hint and waive hi NMC
Class act ? He’s a Valium
Brings his team down
Just let the guy play out his contract. Leave the C; he can't produce like he used to. Don't do him dirty. Respect the player, and respect the veteran leadership he applies. Stripping the "C" is a bad look for the Leaf's franchise.
Couldn't have said it better myself @matthewraco3691 and so short... no way I could have put it that short... LOL...
Also a typical look for MLSE - go for it Laffs !!!! 🤣
Having shitty leadership is a bad look for the Maple Leafs.
Well said.
No wrong wrong wrong wrong he absolutely has to have the C stripped class act? If he was really a Class Act and cared about winning he would defer some of his 11 million salary
Who says that Matthews is a good team leader ? Where's the proof ?
dude its not about making Matthews the captain .its about sending a message to JT that he is not wanted here anymore .His $11M cap hit is preventing the team from adding the depth players to win in the playoffs ( .compare Floridas bottom 6 to the LEafs bottom 6 there is not contest ) Hopefully be removing him as Captain ,he will get the message and waive hi NMC .There are teams out there with plenty of cap room that would take the final year of his deal .All he has to do is waive .
Where is the proof Tavares is a good leader
Look at the Marchand incident
What did the captain do ? NOTHING
Normally the Leafs Capt gets traded not stripped
Leafs were on track during the Babcock era. Young talent was growing into superstars, vets were buying in, role players were committed and valuable.
Reilly was the leader during that time.
Dubis changed the culture, the roster and gave jt the c. Reilly has it in him to be the c. I say him
Seems petty and comes across as a smoke and mirrors play that ultimately means nothing but gives the illusion of change. The Leafs need actual change. Matthews isn't going to be better just because he has a different letter on his sweater and pooping on John the year before you're going to ask him to stay for a song isn't good business.
Before the Leafs start stripping the letters from Jerseys, they should start RANDOM DRUG TESTING!!!
@@StarvingDad4Change Yes. Start with Shanahan.
Half the team would request trades if they had to give up the nose beers
@@johnnyrocken8818 That’s pretty funny. Don Murdoch must be their patron saint.
Its not just the leafs using gear its rampent in all pro sports. Even trainers get the heads up when league officials are coming into test. Some ex player disclosed this on a podcast..not my words but I believe him. I'm into bodybuilding and know how things work sometimes. Guy also said... Trainers pass this info to players...lol The better the player more money for everyone. They dont care. I personally dont think less of a player if he does....too many do and its ok in my books. I just dont view it as cheating bc its the norm thats why.
Yes, that is a proper move A.S.A.P if you want Matthews to step up more than he has but what happens when some one takes on a substantial job is that he might not score as many goals this year but help out in different aspects and raise the game play of those in the blue & white Maple Leaf logo. Most don't understand unless your a Gen X with experience in high performance sports with life skills and experience. this here is a little short excerpt to be discussed for the pro's with experience in their designated practiced exercise/sports.
Matthews is a goal scorer, points machine. He is not captain material, IMO.
@@floyd2222 One of the best two way players, I dont know why people say he just scores. Compare his defensive numbers to Mcdavid.
@@floyd2222 What you said is the main reason that they should put an effort in to Matthews as to work on his overall package of game play. If not, the Leaf's will stay idle until they take an initiative to actually give shits about winning and all the variables that construe to being not only a team in a league but to being amongst the top tier in the league. Matthews may not want the Cataincy but then that will be to his own demise as to not have taken the initiative to be better than he was yesterday. You must first be willing to help yourself before you can help others. And with that said, their ain't no one else but Matthews and coaching Matthews with Champion mentality psychology for the Leaf's to win a long awaited Stanley Cup. Two wrongs don't make a right. Matthews needs a friend in the likes of a Mario Lemieux or Gretzky and it doesn't have to be any of those two but someone that has played and demonstrated sportsmanship. With that said and without writing a book here, have a great day.
This is the guy who hates Provorov for being against groomers
What are you talking about
@@plrt6794 Provorov stood up against grooming and the guy in this video said he should be deported for not being for pedos.
This has nothing to do with hockey… chill out dude
@@ashleysleeth1106 what are you on about.......did you even watch the vid karen?
yep.......sid the karen no business speaking on this
Truly a cursed team
No I would replace that as a scam franshise....they try to sell the story of ghosts and curse bS for profits...my view anyway along with MANY other ppl. Very sad man....Whats happened to game....also no Canadian team in over 30's has won anything....scam league. Thats my BELIEF!!..lol
JT is true professional in the sport of Hockey.
He has one year left. Make the move after his contract ends .
Come ion this is not a charity club smh
WHY who deserves it more? Seriously
Seems to be an exercise in hey look over here. Change the GM, Change the Coach, Change the Captain but don't change anything that matters like the salary structure or personnel.
This would be a classic MakeMeLaughs move!
Tavares being captain is the classic
Make me
Laugh move
Captains generally don't get demoted, they get traded. That said, I wouldn't make Matthews the captain of a canoe, let alone a storied franchise like the Make-B-Leafs...
Will the chbby reporter please tell us what he thinks of Leo Messi?
Let's hear what Sid "I can't play sports" has to say
Yeah , I see him as more of a leftist stooge boy as opposed to sports guy
@albundy7623 100%.. I have so many friends that talk sports, and I love them to death, but stop talking..
Imo it makes legit 0 sense, Matthews isn’t ready and Mo should not be a captain. JT is the closest thing this team has to a captian. Ntm “he hasn’t help out post season” uhh who scored to get them past the 1st round in 20yrs?😭😭
Tavares should not only be out as captain , he should be out of the team completely. Stamkos made 8.5 million dollars a year Last 5 Years and brought home 2 Stanley Cups to Tampa plus another triple to the final. Tavares has made 11 million a year the last 6 years and won 1 measly round what's wrong with that picture
He isnt the best player but to say he hasnt helped in the post season? He scored the game winning goal in our only series win of this era lol
yes technically he did He didint shoot it into the net though .It went off a Tampa players skate so it was luck Perhaps you forgot about that .watch the video again lol
Who assigns someone as captain? Shouldn't it be voted on annually by the team?
Can Sid be out as BT host?
I’m not a leafs fan but didn’t he score the goal that ended “the curse” and brought the leafs to promised land. Aka the second round.
To give BT a lesson in hockey what is happening in Toronto is they are just waiting for Marner and Tavares contracts to run out so they can get Mcdavid next year so they might not give Mathews the C and save it for McDavid .
I don’t know much about the Leafs though a close friend who is a hardcore fan had two things to consider 1) Tavares is overpaid for his production 2) He is a big disappointment. I may not be an expert but it doesn’t sound like he has anyone else to blame but himself!
I think the prudent way to go about this is to have a 1 on 1 with JT. Ask him how he feels about it and explain the direction the Leafs want to go on it. If he agrees great, if not, well I think he will not like his next contract offer no matter which team he is with. Thornton, Marleau both lost the C and the Sharks did well following. If both parties handle it with respect of each other it can end well for both.
This is Matthews team ( he had the C except for his childish incident in AZ ) time to let this thoroughbred out of the coral and "C" what he is capable of. JT still can play a part on this team if he wishes at a much lower team friendly deal. IMO
Can we trade Sid Suckcero?? Asking for a bunch of people
JT hasn’t been a captain at all. They were going to give the “C” to Auston until it was learned he had mooned a female security guard at his Phoenix apartment building.
Lol. Matthews was never getting the Captaincy over the hometown guy Tavares
They should do that. I feel his play has suffered because of Toronto pressures and has too many nights you wouldn’t know he is in the game, which is not leading by example. His interviews are always robot like and not from a leadership view. Auston is built for the spotlight and leads by example every game! It’s not a figure head, every winning team has a leader who leads in the room and backs his words up on the ice which inspires the team to follow. The C matters!
Tavares is rock solid as a player, always is and isn’t chasing a bunch of goals scored in the regular season, then crap out in the playoffs.
John Tavares deserves respect.
Letting Marner play out the year then walk, or even worse sign him to infinity is very bad business. The core has had 8 years to do anything post season. Only once have they managed to move past a beat up and tired Tampa team.
Marner is an excellent winger, but something must change player and cap wise.
I never liked the decision to name him the Captain. But there is no reason to change it now. The only reason to put in on Auston is tp force him to do more media work and therefore face the music, John is fed up to face... But I doubt John wants to give up the C willingly...
I would think long and hard about stripping the C, this is the worst thing that can happen to a player. If you want the utmost humiliation- then you better trade him the next day.
sure how are they gonna do that? he has a no move clause.
The Sharks took the captaincy away from both Patrick Marleau and Joe Thorton and made the Cup final with both dudes on the team lol
Former Captain Tavares. It’s time for a change - new voice - both on and off the ice.
this is just a low class move for the Leafs to do. given the other leadership decisions made by the Leafs corporation in the past I could see them trying to push it. BUT : I don't think Berube would be on board and I would like to think that some of the other veteran players on the team would tell them where to stick this idea. and what would the next guy to have the C have to say about it? or would they just leave the C vacant like it was for a good while years ago? yeah thats a good look?!
Not this year but next year after tavares contract ends then Auston should be wearing the C moving forward
Yes strip him of the C he is a robot!🤖
Give the C to Matthews it has always been his team who we kidding here...
Tavares lost the "C" when after game seven he said "we're almost there" in regards to a first round exit. Edmonton is "almost there" after losing by literally one shot in the Stanley Cup Final. The San Jose Sharks took the "C" away from both Patrick Marleau and Joe Thorton and then made a Stanley Cup Final with both dudes still on the team lol I can totally see this happening.
Pressure for changes is there, and perhaps stripping the captaincy away from Tavares will send a message that a new era of accountability has begun for players on this Leaf roster.
He should loose his C and turn in his maple leaf pyjamas.
Its not a big deal ....!! No worries
Mathews at the time & of course now was to be the Captain.That’s until 34 ran around town exposing himself & threatening a female security guard during that evening back in that summer.His friends even confirmed it & tried to convince him to stop.It wasn’t something he did once during the evening it was multiple times.Thats why he didn’t get the C at that time.Will he be the captain this time next year?Most likely when JT is gone or takes a team friendly pay cut.
When has Tavares ever done well in the playoffs?
Does scoring 59 goals mean you should be given Captaincy? NOPE! lol
I see too different guys here... Tavares a more serious responsible family guy. Just a perception. A guy who trains hard . Then Matthews a more rebel type of guy...again just a perception. At the end of the day it seems that JT would be best suited but we dont know what goes on in dressing room. I would say that its Tavares responsibility to keep everyone accountable and I get the sense that he maybe too soft. Then again he could be different behind closed doors. I think main issue is cap structure. Psychology of sport...you cant allocate all that money around 4 guys...it creats division in dressing room. You would have to be brain dead to think otherwise....I dont believe Dubas was....plan was how much money can we achieve and not actually looking through the lens of winning a cup. Horrible organization and ownership.
Should be should of got stamkos
Of the core Tavares will be moved out, unless he takes a huge paycut, I don't believe that will happen, he'll go somewhere else.
With the Leafs Core 4 playoff disappointments still under contract and intact - why bother changing the Leafs Captain? Everyone just expects more first round playoff exits by these Leafs until at least 2 of the 4 Leafs Core 4 players move out of Toronto. 😀
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Slow news day eh. Wow thanks for the update about nothing.
It's time to put the c on Matthews
Toronto always looking for escape goat
Should have been Matthews team from day 1
Nah. He isn’t a leader too.
Islanders nation will blow up if they do that, especially when he plays there again.
Jibber jabber
Its doubtful the Leafs will succeed no matter who wears the C
better they should get rid of JT for a 99th round choice or buy him out
Let John keep the letter C. The rest of Leafs should wear every other individual letter of the alphabet…There would be 25 letters remaining and this should cover the rest of the team…
Hey Sid , you gave up on sports broadcasting, stick to your bacon and eggs tv
Let him keep the C and play out his contract. If he doesn't come back then Matthews gets the C.
Let them ride then last year outb
It dont matter who has the C we just need to get better
Shouldn’t be Matthew’s!
Stripping taking the Captiancy away from John Travares does what?
Is it going to make the team better in the playoffs?
If you are going to issue ! Appoint letters to a sweater they might want to think before they give a player or players an A or C on their sweaters.
Marner does not deserve to be a alternate captain ! What characteristics does he possess that warrants him to be a alternate Captain?
What characteristics does Mathews Nylander have that warrants them to wear an A or C?
It just can't be about points! goals! Skill and ability!
When you look some players that are captains and alternate captains they have much skill and ability levels ! They play at a different level and pace! And they have earned respect from other players on others teams by not being one dementional !
McCabe would be a good choice for the C or A
Possible Tanev Reaves for an A Morgan Rielly possible for an A or the C
Who cares, it’s golf season again.
Dragging out a rumour makes for no topic on deck
The backstreet boys song needs to go
Way overpaid.
Tavares is one of the least vocal players in that locker room
It’s time to shake Johns hand, thank him, and put him on a block of ice and send him out to sea… his contract set the ridiculous precedent of “CoRe fOuR sTaRpOwEr”, giving guys like marner the audacity to ask for 13,000,000 a year
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Marner led the team twice in scoring in the last 5 years, he’s a point+ a game player in that time as well….and a combined plus 110 over the last five …averaging plus 20 for each year…if he’s not worth it no one is.
@@MichaelThomas-ll1hw Toronto fans are the best. With no concept of winning in the expansion era, they don’t have a sense of what success is so they cannibalize their own when then invariably fail each year. It’s the most predictable cycle in pro sports.
Matthews should not be given the c .
DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT TAKE TAVARES CAPTAIN C.HE IS A BEAST IN THE PLAYOFFS.MAYBE HE SLEEPS IN REG SEASON BUT IN THE PLAYOFFS WHEN HE GETS PUSHED AROUND AND GETS PISSED OFF, HE BECOMES CAPTAIN HULK.JOHN TAVARES LIVES !!!!!!!
Why are you even talking about this? You have no facts, nothing but your opinions. This is garbage journalism.
I'm a huge Tavares fan, don't get me wrong. However, when he speaks in his monotone, no charisma type tone, I almost fall asleep on every occasion. I could only imagine.
Matthews is no leader.
they should have bought him out to send a message. Even if the caps savings is minimal, enough is enough. toss him
Oh ffs...this is NOT news worthy. We as fans have no clue what kind of team leader he is behind close doors. He's not the type to go b4 the cameras and deal with the idiots from Toronto sports media. I know what I'd tell them when I'm ask some dumbass question. You've bashed crap out of Mitch so John's next 🙄🥴🤦🏻♂️. Who on the LEAFS is worthy to wear the C ???
Breakfast television is so cringe
Since Sid came along.
If we think back, Matthews was likely going to get the "C", and there was a valid reason why he didn't.
JT will play out his contract and resign. The captain isn’t going anywhere
Funny I was thinking this the other day. Tavares doesn’t feel the pressure of the C because he’s obviously not the best player, and Auston needs to carry the C and bare the responsibility that comes with it
This clown knows nothing about, what it takes to be a captain in the NHL, like showing up in the playoffs, Tavares and Marner showed up for ALL 7 games, can you say that about Nylander -3, Matthews -2.5???
Give Marner the C
Could aleins arrive and destory earth?! Probably not, we just wanted to make noises with our mouths about hockey. Thanks for wasting your time with us.
.... how is Sid not coming out of his shorts with Trump leading the polls by a landslide ????
Fake news
great captains are able to elevate everyone around them come playoff time, (Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid, Toews, etc etc) funeral director Tavares is about as inspiring as a 5 day insurance seminar
It’s not going to happen, the Leafs would never do that. He is a respected Captain, teammate and great citizen of the city of Toronto.
John Biden
He's washed up give it to matthews
I disagree he has put up very good numbers and is a a true professional taking his craft very seriously.
being the captain doesn’t mean you need to be always be the best player on the team
John tavares is a detriment to this hockey team...his contract stinks...non vocal in the dressing and is getting old. Just put an albatross around his neck. Do you like pork chops sid??
LoL. Who was the culprit for his contract? Guess again. That fool! Now he's making a mess w the Penguins.
Stop talking about this irrelevant team.
worst captain in nhl history
he's an over priced under achiever........
Sid should stick to the latest l topic of leftist outrage and leave the NHL to the men
Take everything away from jt. He's a loser.
Nobody cares. The leafs suck!!!
No way…..why would you even say that. He is great. He works his butt off every game. Who are you? Even to say that makes my blood boil. They do that buddy….I’m done with Toronto.🤬
So is this The Leafs idea of 'A Rebuild' ? Why not just tear it all down already & start from scratch ? 🤔🇨🇦🏒🏆
I agree, they got nothing to work with and will be same outcome next year lol