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  • @arttukettunen5757
    @arttukettunen5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    Simo Häyhä was never killed. But some soviet did shoot his jaw so in the end he couldn't come back to war. However after many surgeries, he still lived a full life

    • @Suomipe
      @Suomipe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      jätkäl o sama sukunimi ku mul

    • @Lilliz91
      @Lilliz91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Juu, mut hei, tää tyyppi ei selvästikään ole suomalainen, pitää vähän ymmärtää.

    • @ardekakka
      @ardekakka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ja sama etunimi ku mul

    • @barks5791
      @barks5791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hei sulla on nimi, mullakin on

    • @myveryoriginalusername
      @myveryoriginalusername 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lilliz91 Ei välttii

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    22:27 _"...the Soviet Union declared war on Finland in November 1939."_ - No they didn't! They invaded without a declaration.

  • @MalkWilliams
    @MalkWilliams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    That was superb. I've seen a lot of potted histories of Finland on TH-cam, but this was the best by far. Many thanks!

    • @NarnianLady
      @NarnianLady 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes. This was surprisingly accurate and fair. Respect!

    • @SergeyPRKL
      @SergeyPRKL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, majority of the other videos completelly forgets the civil war part. The 1918 events got killed as many finns as the Winter war.

    • @karkkimarkkinat2109
      @karkkimarkkinat2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SergeyPRKL better than falling under commie rule

    • @MrSpritzmeister
      @MrSpritzmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The early part is massively inaccurate and represents a 1950s vision of Finnish history written from a nationalist point of view, which not seen as factual. This is far from superb, but a good effort nonetheless, since there’s a serious lack of historical record.

    • @MalkWilliams
      @MalkWilliams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrSpritzmeister When you say the early part, what do you mean? Which aspects do you see as inaccurate? I don't want to argue, I just want to know.

  • @utkarshg.bharti9714
    @utkarshg.bharti9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    Finns are amazingly resilient people. Peaceful, innovative, quiet yet friendly (until it's about metal and drinks), and have their independent course of foreign policy. Much love to you guys from an Indian!

    • @arvopohja7693
      @arvopohja7693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Soon this all will vanish..

    • @pilkkumi3620
      @pilkkumi3620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@arvopohja7693 Yes if our idiot people won't open their eyes and see that Russia is a big threat even now, and also to stop fooling around with the social democrat party since they seem to be totally not capable of running the country, using tax payers momey to buy whatever they want, put up restrictions which they don't follow, we'd have to push the EU's green agenda although we have the most forest to land area on Europe. We should join Nato to make sure that Russia won't threaten us, they have showed us many times that they are assholes who don't care about borders. they cross our air space and sea borders, and even if they start to threaten, it would be a nice needle in the guts for them IF WE WOULD BE IN NATO.

    • @arvopohja7693
      @arvopohja7693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@pilkkumi3620 you understood my point from very short hint

    • @SumeaBizarro
      @SumeaBizarro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'd like to think that Finland at least historically is the quiet big guy in bar, polite to the barmaid and peaceful in his drinking, but fuck his day up and he fucks your life up.
      Realistically, we are not THAT great war heroes. Many glasses wearing Finnish people will point out that winners usually do not come out of a war paying to the other side but also invasive effort from US sized super power is not resisted with such force that they decide to not bother and just... Do politics or something. Fly a plane over the space and have awkward talks between presidents about it.

    • @angelsmagick
      @angelsmagick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank You!

  • @gaedzable
    @gaedzable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Great video. Theres a lot of comments about historical inaccurasies, but i think the overall image is very good. When you are squeezing hundreds of years in to 20 minutes, small mishaps are bound to happen. A lot of times the correct answer is uncertain. This is a good summary of the Finnish history, perhaps the best. I rarely subscribe to any channels, but you have earned it. Kiitos!

    • @lato5750
      @lato5750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Vitu kaunis nimi kyl

    • @flamethegame1
      @flamethegame1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The contrast between the account name and the form of the comment is just comical

    • @lato5750
      @lato5750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@flamethegame1 I highly agree xD

  • @jokemon9547
    @jokemon9547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    Finns not adopting a "viking" lifestyle isn't exactly true. Both the Finnish tribes and Estonians to their south were seafaring and conducted trading along with pillaging in the surrounding areas in the eastern Baltic. Baltic Finnic people had their own vocabulary for boats, and similarly to the Norse, Finnic people also associated ships with serpents. One good example is "uisko", which was likely a small longship that could transport people and goods along with it being able to go into rivers. It was also capable to be dragged out of the water and over isthmuses and between different waterways. Estimates for how many men could be onboard was as high as 40, but that was likely exclusive for the largest ones. "Uisko" as a word has been used in folklore in which it has more often than not meant "snake" or "serpent". The word was also loaned into the Eric Chronicle written in the early 14th century as "wisko" as it was described as the ship used by Karelians along with it being introduced into early Russian as well. The Tavastians used rivers like the Porvoo River to get from the interior into the Baltic along with few medieval sources describing "Tavastians ports" on the coasts. Finns and Baltic Finnic people as a whole were no strangers to the Baltic and knew how to traverse it.

    • @eksiarvamus
      @eksiarvamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Did Finns really have a seafaring, viking-like lifestyle? Estonians certainly did, but I've never heard this about Finns.

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      ​@@eksiarvamus Southwestern Finns due to their habitation being situated on and near the coast and around the Aura river along with Karelians due to the direct connection from the Ladoga into the Baltic through the Neva and Vuoksi, since back then the Vuoksi reached further west on the Karelian isthmus and many of the now separate lakes were more interconnected to each other making travel easier. Tavastians are a bit iffy, I'll admit that, due to their more inland settlements along rivers and lakes. However they did still use rivers, like the Porvoo river I previously mentioned, to get from Tavastia out to sea.

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Thank you, I know I’ve made some mistakes in the video and any reminders from native Finns are appreciated :)

    • @tominhaledhisfingers2468
      @tominhaledhisfingers2468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@jokemon9547 In my home region, southern finland. We have a lot of viking artifacts being found, graves, evidences of camps, and so on. This is in the coastal & archipelago regions. I'm not saying finns, just vikings. My theory is the swedes 100% purged some of our history during their reign.

    • @SwedishEmpire1700
      @SwedishEmpire1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tominhaledhisfingers2468 Why though? There never was any deliberate need for Sweden to do that since they had ruled in Finland since early medieval age so there wasnt really much to delete.

  • @Ravtaku
    @Ravtaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a native Karelian im happy that our language still exists and that the most finnic groups managed to survive. I cant get enough of our history and im always hungry for more videos about our brothers. As one of 40.000 native Karelians i just can say that russia dont care about our finnic friends. I was born in russia (кемь) but my family moved to Finland and i also just can speak Karelian and Finnish besides English. Russia has alot of territory that should be Finland because the russians dont make anything to save our people.
    Greetings from Joensuu (Finland)

    • @curlyfries2956
      @curlyfries2956 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. My mom’s side of family is part Finnish and I hope to go there someday

  • @vanurp9130
    @vanurp9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Just a reminder. Kalevala is no big mythological record. It is a collection of short rhymes passed down trough oral tradition, that form a somewhat consistent narrative. Since the stories from Kalevala are spread out geographically and diluted in the course of history, Elias Lönnrot could not have possibly gather all the stories consistently. The estimates say that, comparing a perfect collection of all Kalevala rhymes to Lönnrot's Kalevala, is like comparing the entire Harry Potter series, to a page long replica of Harry Potter.

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People began sending in new verses after the Kalevala was published, and Lönnrot himself said that he could have written 6 different (storylined) Kalevala with all the materials he now had.

    • @SairanBurghausen
      @SairanBurghausen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lies, lies, lies, lies. The runesongs that have been archived hold everything from mythology to history to morals to guidelines to prose.

  • @Talinimity
    @Talinimity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I gotta say, as a Finn, I teared up a few times watching this video. Also I learned a few new things about the country I've lived my entire life. Thank you!

  • @Haliitti
    @Haliitti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Hands down the best video on youtube covering the history of Finland. Everything important was carefully covered and the drawings were excellent. I can see this channel becoming one of the top history channels on youtube.

  • @victoralexanderkangas8756
    @victoralexanderkangas8756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Really nice to see our history from an outside perspective, albeit there being some holes/empty hatches that are quite significant to telling the story. Understandably it is difficult to make everything fit into a 30min walktrough. Thank you either way for telling our history to the rest of the world, maybe for those really intereated this is a pathway into digging deeper.

  • @IrregularPineapples
    @IrregularPineapples 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a Finn: An amazing summary. Quite balanced, humorous, main points covered, visually impressive with all the clips and editing, not getting stuck on details or a single thing -- I never say this, but thanks for making and sharing this video. It was a pleasure~

  • @kraatarin8226
    @kraatarin8226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    wonderful video! Nothing but praise from a finn!

  • @anonemaus4445
    @anonemaus4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Another great video. I have no idea how this quality content doesn't get thousands of views.

  • @u2miner
    @u2miner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was the best countryballs-style video of Finland I have yet to see! Instantly subbed!

  • @RAMBOdyykkari
    @RAMBOdyykkari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    havent seen this kind of quality when it comes to history of my country for a really long time, great job my good sir!

  • @bisko3543
    @bisko3543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Awesome video. A strange fun fact its that here in Brazil there is a Finnish touristic city called Penedo.

  • @PerErikKarlsson
    @PerErikKarlsson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How the hell where you able to create something this well researched and informative? Must have taken forever. Many thx from Sweden.

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for the support! And yea, it took quite a while to make

  • @karigrandi7
    @karigrandi7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Interesting note about the Finnish civilwar. My hometown Liminka chose not to take sides in this conflict, with the reds and whites signing a treaty which would keep the peace even though the nearby city Oulu still saw fighting.

    • @AatamiFin
      @AatamiFin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vesanto did the same as well!

    • @noobfighter18
      @noobfighter18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liminka mainittu (olen cringe)

    • @mingingg
      @mingingg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liminka hetki👎👎

    • @karigrandi7
      @karigrandi7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mingingg certified 40 jäsenen lestaadiolaisperhe moment

    • @pohjantuulet247
      @pohjantuulet247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Recently found a book detailing family history, found out my paternal line took part in the liberation of Oulu on the side of the White Guard.

  • @Kenruli
    @Kenruli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    There were few things I would have wanted you mention for example Finland had relative of Wilhelm II as king of Finland for that 1 month of independence. And about the Crimean war, there we're some fighting in Finnish coast where Finns won fight against British, and captured a war boat from them. And you can go see that war boat too here.

  • @The0riginalTwo
    @The0riginalTwo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some parts lack historically significant events that lend more context to Finland’s actions, but very good and informative for a sub 30 minute video.

  • @averyangrygardengnome
    @averyangrygardengnome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! You made the right choice to feature Finland as one of the first nations in the series, considering how proud Finns are ;)

  • @Pinkalicious112
    @Pinkalicious112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm living in this gorgeous country and I want to learn so much of it's history. Thank you so much for this educational video!

  • @spiggensengineering1963
    @spiggensengineering1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love to Y'all Finns from your neighbour in the west, you're a really cool country and you have a lot to be proud of!
    Really cool video!

  • @TBoneTony
    @TBoneTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    At least Finland is one of those countries that stands up for itself and does not back down.
    Also the paper that Finland had during the depression really helped their economy.

    • @noobgun12
      @noobgun12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe but we are economically pretty fucked right now anyway and it will just become worse dunno if its because our leaders seem to be pretty fucking corrupted somehow everytime or they are just dont know what they are doing who knows

  • @Ounouh
    @Ounouh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    "We are no longer Swedes, we don't want to become Russians, lets be Finns." -Adolf Ivar Arwidsson

    • @heli0ns
      @heli0ns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Underrated comment!

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Kind of similar to Ukraine, they are not Poles or Russians, the two powers that have fought over Ukraine for centuries even though Ukraine as a nation is far older that either, especially Russia.

    • @merieullstedt4713
      @merieullstedt4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Russian i am a Finland hi Russian hows the vodka today?

    • @Tokilainen
      @Tokilainen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "And Finland said ei" xD

    • @YourOffcialC.Y
      @YourOffcialC.Y ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​thanks Russian im from finland🙂
      Hows the vodka? Today?

  • @reineh3477
    @reineh3477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has to be one of the best videos about Finland on TH-cam.

  • @einienj3281
    @einienj3281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a Finn I'm very pleased with this! Thank You, Kiitos! 😊♥️

  • @RuyVuusen
    @RuyVuusen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow, incredibly underrated, both in channel and in video. Hope your channel blows up someday! It will almost certainly happen eventually if you keep making quality content.

  • @lucaslee4972
    @lucaslee4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A very informative video! I LOVE ❤️ history myself and so enjoyed this video very much. Bless you for being such a person with ardor and insatiable desire for history 🥰

  • @zarudo
    @zarudo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good visuals, voice recording, music and the research you did on this

  • @colincbatch
    @colincbatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very well done and amusing summary of Finland, the Finns and their place in the world. I did my last year of high school as an exchange student for the first 3 months in a Finnish speaking school in central Helsinki (Ressun Lukio), and then the rest of the year in a Swedish speaking village, Karis (Karjaa in Finnish) in the costal forest area half way between Helsinki and Turku... Your presentation of the Finland is oikein hyvä!

  • @Snoooo
    @Snoooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5 minutes in and I can already tell that this is one of the best videos about Finland in youtube! Subbing for sure!

  • @hrishabkumarsharma1355
    @hrishabkumarsharma1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Days like this make me thankful for the TH-cam algorithm.

  • @Villamuumi
    @Villamuumi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Best history vid of Finland I've seen. Finally someone who just doesn't say "yeah Finns were some forest people before almighty swedes came to rescue them".

    • @Jennifer-gv7gp
      @Jennifer-gv7gp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..? Who says finns were "some forest people"?

    • @Villamuumi
      @Villamuumi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Jennifer-gv7gp basically our school system.

    • @Jennifer-gv7gp
      @Jennifer-gv7gp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Villamuumi well ok that sounds stupid... But I've never heard anyone say that so I just wondered

    • @northbreeze0111
      @northbreeze0111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yeah, that's pretty much what I learned in Swedish school as well. Just some random tribesmen roaming the woods.

    • @Jennifer-gv7gp
      @Jennifer-gv7gp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northbreeze0111 that's definitly not what we learned in my school (in Sweden). But then we hardly talked about history at all..

  • @topiaslukkarinen7648
    @topiaslukkarinen7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One thing to note of the finnish civil war it was and still is one of me most bloody civil wars in history of the world when compared to countries population

  • @ilarious5729
    @ilarious5729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job, I'm over all impressed with the video. There are some small inaccuracies but no where near as bad as in most youtube videos. Especially the history since 19th century seems accurate, hell even the Finns aren't sure about the prehistory of the country

  • @parsananmon
    @parsananmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So many good drawings, very good summary. This channel needs more views

  • @jatkajatka_3500
    @jatkajatka_3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Im finnish and even I learned so much stuff I didn't know about my country in this video. Very well done.

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    _"[The Finns] were not allowed to receive financial aid from the Marshall Plan [and] they were not allowed to join NATO"_ - Incorrect! The Paris peace treaty neither mentions Marshall plan nor NATO because neither existed yet. Marshall plan aid and NATO membership was simply not accepted because the years following the war right up until the signing of the treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance in 1948 were known as "the years of danger" during which the Soviet Union remained extremely suspicious of Finland and actively - but fortunately unsuccesfully - interfered in Finland's affairs in order to turn it into a Communist satellite.

    • @mikkotuisku1254
      @mikkotuisku1254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah thats some misinformation that finland could not join nato. other than that I didnt read :D

    • @johanneskiefer6912
      @johanneskiefer6912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbh it sounded like that's what he meant, Finland had to somehow arrange itself with the Soviet Union at the time and could't risk to upset them, therefore joining NATO or financially cooperating with the US wasn't really on the table- maybe similarly to Ukraines situation in the early 2000s. I'd be interested in how exactly they interacted with the SU though, did the soviets have a lot of diplomats over there or was it more like communication via signs (idk like ordering less wood could mean "Back off with that American rifle purchase, otherwise u will maybe have to use them in the not-so-distant future?)!

    • @Jansk1h
      @Jansk1h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Marshall plan came after the war treaty yes, but the fact remains that Finland didn't receive that aid and it was because the soviets let the finns know that they shouldn't take it. Not outright forbidding it but sending a message regardless, a tactic they used throughout the cold war to keep Finland in check.

    • @melrakan
      @melrakan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And we did in fact receive Marshall aid. My parents have clear memories of receiving Marshall maternity packets for instance.

  • @jussim.konttinen4981
    @jussim.konttinen4981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    13:50 I think Kustaa Raninen (Gustaf Ranin) was one of the wealthier Finnish speakers. Usually people finnicized their previously Swedish or English family names. He did the opposite.

  • @Jaeger958
    @Jaeger958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a Finn and a patriot at that. Thank you. Well made and recearched documentary a few small error discrepencies here and there but overall good.

    • @moisuomi
      @moisuomi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, unfortunately our country is going authoritarian under Sanna. That is why we must convince every Finn to support Perus.

  • @OrthoFinn
    @OrthoFinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow this deserves so much more views

  • @NinaMelpomeneLynch
    @NinaMelpomeneLynch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, perkele, that was excellent!
    Loads of love from Finland!

  • @nOtstrO
    @nOtstrO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're so underrated! Keep up the good work my man, your videos are very entertaining

  • @niilovaananen3215
    @niilovaananen3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The addition of Sibelius' music is great

  • @alexflex2163
    @alexflex2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video warms up my cold Russian soul. By the way nice country balls references.

  • @JiquD
    @JiquD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice and throughout research. Awesome quality and illustrations! - history buff from Finland

  • @SumeaBizarro
    @SumeaBizarro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Finnish person here, not an expert in being Finnish just being one so take it with grain of salt.
    "Hakkaa päälle" mentioned as the troops is very Finnish phrase, where it is absolutely abstract but also not at all for a finnish speaker. Literal translation would be "Hit them over (on them)" where more meaning filled "localization" could be more "Hit and overwhelm!" - Our war language is subtly not related to what we do to other side, other side is not even part of the yell. The only needed part in finnish war vocabulary is "What we do" - With little bit of generalization rules where you can say stuff like "hitting over" and it makes way more sense in Finnish than English.
    Sorry for tangent, for me, and maybe many friends "Hakkaa päälle" is just one of those things we say, or at least, in inspirational war movies, we say - there is a scene in original "Unknown Soldier" where one says it, to charge and fall, but also inspires others to follow that chant and charge. (said scene, in the new remake version; th-cam.com/video/Lo2fkwB185A/w-d-xo.html) - So, the saying is still well known to this day, though, amount of finns in gangs partaking in gang wars where people would say stuff like this for realsies is not very high, at least hopefully not.
    Too long for sure, but also thanks. Even for Finnish people, videos like these are always a good resource to refresh and have concise chronological order which to "tack on" things you remember learning from school. Much like for other countries, sometimes outsider looks filter the knowledge a bit better, may filter out biases very nationalistic finns may have, and so on.
    Also, small note about (Finnish) Ä, and name like "Häyhä" - It is linked to A bit instead of "British proper a" which is the A we have always only most proper and most posh A whenever A is written, Ä is a seperation of "A" in words like "at" "angle" or "Static", and you bring that "tinge of difference" further from A and you have somewhat Finnish Ä. - Sadly, for being such a badass that he became one of most known finns outside finland, and people can write his name for sure, saying it is bit different. Because in Häyhä's name's case you cannot say "just say it like a japanese person would say it" because his name is almost all the things finnish language has versus Japanese. When otherwise we have words like "Sakka, Sakko, Sokko, Kukka, Kakka, Akka" where you can just write them down サッカ サッコ ソッコ クッカ カッカ アッカ and they'd sound identical between the two speakers... Well, Häyhä is the name that has nothing you can do. Best you can say is "Ä is kinda like A, but more the one in ät rather than proper bri'ish bath" - and the Y is like Y in "yeet" rather than the more U people tinge it as.
    HAVE I MADE IT CLEAR THAT FINNISH IS WEIRD?
    Because damn, part of being finn that learns about outside world is learning how weird we are. In nice way. The way how Häkkinen speaks in F1 interviews. Having badass rock covers of Russian national anthems and stuff. In finnish.

    • @angelsmagick
      @angelsmagick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      An old Finnish lady liking your comment!

    • @Masamarsu123
      @Masamarsu123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a dude from Finland I can say that this is so true.

    • @lyrigageforge3259
      @lyrigageforge3259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hehe. Funny how an exo-Finn (someone living outside of Finland who most certainly is a Finn none the less) like me ends up reading these comments in videos about Finland. My husband is French, I was born in Finland though and yea - got to agree, it is very curious to watch videos about my native country, especially when they are made by someone who is originally from elsewhere. The view is rather interesting also from outside in.

    • @Alastor-1929
      @Alastor-1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As i am Finnish i shall like this comment

    • @aarepelaa1142
      @aarepelaa1142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe you should have mentioned tulta munille, fire to the eggs, that's a translation but it means fire at the balls, i think it had something to do whit being in trenches and low so you just hit them in the waist area.

  • @knowkratom
    @knowkratom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think it is amazing how, even though they were forced to sue for peace, the Fins absolutely humiliated the USSR in the Winter War. The K/D ratio is one of the most lopsided in history. Absolutely went full metal on them.

    • @someguyfromfinland4239
      @someguyfromfinland4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be called a Pyrrhic victory

    • @knowkratom
      @knowkratom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@someguyfromfinland4239 true. and Finland earned respect worldwide

    • @erikwahlstrom4093
      @erikwahlstrom4093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason for the peace had actually a lot to do with German pressure on Finland, and the rather untrustworthy promises of aid from the UK.

  • @Tanya_Maria
    @Tanya_Maria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great summary of Finlands history! Thank you so much for making this video! Even I learned much because I wasn't this interested on history at school, and school was over 20 years ago :D

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the support! Hope you’ll continue to support the channel :)

  • @dickylefantasic
    @dickylefantasic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video! Awesome work!!!!!!!

  • @joemorris6465
    @joemorris6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a very engaging and interesting video! I didn't know a lot of Finland's history before

  • @trumpjongun8831
    @trumpjongun8831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best foreign history videos of Finland i've seen on YT.
    For most part the video was well made, but after 1939, there was lack of information and false info about Winter war and Continuation war.

  • @joshualeung92
    @joshualeung92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    deserves more views. Great Job!

  • @DaBoomz13
    @DaBoomz13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kiitos/thank you! This was a marvellous video!

  • @aleksirissanen9791
    @aleksirissanen9791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I am by no means an expert but I'd just like to make a few corrections from my own past research.
    In the start, Ukko is not the "high god", or even a god really. The Finnish concept of the divine was more simillar to sprits than gods, but this is from the Kalevala which is a Christian version of the story and is accurate to the book.
    The second, Vikings actually refused to travel with Finns, interestingly out of fear as they believed they could control the weather and although they could take advantage of this they thought the Finns might use this to take a lager share of loot.
    However Finns and Estonians still did raid frequently on their own although it wasn't until way into the Viking age and so anyone being raided would probably just think they where funny sounding Norse or Danes
    In the conversion section it's mentioned that they'd "convert and de-convert". while kind of true it's not how it exactly worked, the Finns didn't see a baptism as converting but as only a way to please the Christians. The Vikings also did this and it's even recorded that the legendary Viking Rollo complained that his baptism in France wasn't as good as his baptism in England.
    I am really enjoying this video and I' love to keep watching but its Joulu and time for sauna.

    • @angelsmagick
      @angelsmagick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great comment!

    • @Vuosta
      @Vuosta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's funny how the vikings were so scared of their eastern neighbours. Vikings didn't like travelling into sami lands as they believed we practiced magic and were scared of us. I've heard stories of Norwegians thinking they got cursed by a same just some 20 years ago which is quite hilarious.

    • @mikkotuisku1254
      @mikkotuisku1254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well give him a break, like hes doing finnish history for working :)

    • @suvilienee
      @suvilienee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha lager share of loot indeed 🍺

    • @finnicpatriot6399
      @finnicpatriot6399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Nope, that's revisionist nonsense
      2. Nope, that's referring to the Sámi

  • @capta1nseal
    @capta1nseal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the quality of the video compensates for the mispronunciations of Finnish words so I'll let it slide😉
    seriously, amazing video

    • @capta1nseal
      @capta1nseal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      (pronunciation of "hakkaa päälle" made me cringe a bit)

  • @ThisTrainIsLost
    @ThisTrainIsLost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Going back to the tug of war (literally) between the would-be Swedish empire and the Rus, there's an old saying that "the Swedes would fight to the very last Finn."

    • @HH-mz1cf
      @HH-mz1cf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The russians truly loves that saying

  • @angryfinnishfarmer
    @angryfinnishfarmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great and accurate history video! Good research done mate :)

  • @AA81111
    @AA81111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We have an amazing and intresting history, and also we are really wealthy and happy people:). I hope that you could fully see our country! Terveisiä Suomesta!

  • @Laur_Stefan
    @Laur_Stefan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is sooo well made, keep it up man

  • @finnicpatriot6399
    @finnicpatriot6399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Gonna have to rail really hard against that "Finnish chieftains replaced by Swedish nobles" line. A large portion of the nobility were Finns, often chieftains who just converted to Christianity. Horn, Carpelan, Tavast, Tawast, Särkilahti, Blåfeld, Creutz, Stålarm, Kurki etc families were of ethnic Finnish origins, and most of their members spoke Finnish until the internationalization of the nobility took a toll on Finnish language starting from the mid-1600s. Many of Sweden's most important and influential statesmen, members of the privy council for example, were Finns. Finns held great power in the kingdom. It wasn't some exclusive ethnic Swedish project, but a mutual cooperative project between Swedes and Finns.
    The single BIGGEST lie in this video is that of the club war. It was not some uprising by Finns against Swedes, but an uprising by both Finnish and Swedish speaking peasants against the Finnish nobility. The regent of Sweden actually supported the peasants, while the Finnish military dictator Klaus Fleming embargoed Sweden and supported the king of Poland-Lithuania. Calling it a Finnish revolt against Sweden couldn't be further away from the truth.

    • @Gamleman
      @Gamleman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nice too see that there is someone here who actually knows what he is talking about..

    • @Ackalan
      @Ackalan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed, depicting the Swedes as oppressors is simply wrong and historically inaccurate, most people lived quite harsh lives back then but Swedes and Finns were (and are) brothers in the truest sense. Thousands of Swedes died defending Finns as the Finns died protecting the Swedes when we were one country and after that Sweden sent officers to help during the civil war and during WWII gathered the largest volunteer force in history to help the Finns during the winter war with the Soviets and sent thousands of tons of military equipment, even a 1/3 of the air force to defend Finland. Way to skip on the "details" in the video.

    • @GegoXaren
      @GegoXaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I was confused about that too.
      Swedish Kings often trusted the Finns more than the Swedes (as the Swedes this side of the bay were more likely to back-stab eachother).

    • @matso3856
      @matso3856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GegoXaren While this might be true , its been proven that provinces in Finland wasnt required to provide more soldiers then any other provinces from Sweden , they were seen as equals from the start and thus nothing you occupy. Source to this is the historian Herman Lindqvist , reason why we "forced" swedish was so that we could trade with 'one' language and when meeting were held about the future of all of Sweden those from finlands provinces could represent their case in Stockholm , thus it was of practical reason and not an intent to wipe finish off the map. Which sweden had ample time for over 700+ years if that was the intent. There is a long list of stuff that's all written from Finlands nationalistic point of view , and simply not correct.

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matso3856 The idea of Finland providing more troops in the Swedish army likely stems from the amount of Swedish cavalry that was from Finland, since despite Finland being only 1/3 of the Swedish population, on average 37% of the cavalry came from Finland and at times it was as high as 50%. So proportionally speaking, Finland supplied a lot of cavalry. It also has likely been affected by the mainly Finnish units fighting in Finland during Swedish-Russian wars. Not that Swedish units weren't there at all, but for example in the last Swedish-Russian war over Finland in 1808-1809, most of the soldiers fighting were Finnish units.

  • @mandelin0
    @mandelin0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video! good information and great editing. Hyvää työtä!

  • @B_H_S13
    @B_H_S13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    dude your my new fav youtuber for history new sub btw

  • @psynque
    @psynque 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must congratulate this channel, most of the videos regarding our history here in TH-cam are very bad but I couldn't spot historical inaccuracies in this one. Good job. Kiitos.

  • @themintyduck651
    @themintyduck651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good video man my great grandfather’s wife was a finnish medic during the continuation war and i think it is nice to teach people about finnish history, Kiitos

  • @SamDy99
    @SamDy99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your channel is SPOT ON!! Don't loose it in the future

  • @SchilkeSmooth
    @SchilkeSmooth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    From one small TH-camr to another, this is superb. I started watching and had to doublecheck to make sure you were under 1000 subscribers. I can only imagine how long was spent making this video. If you are interested, some aspects of Finland as an early nation-state during the 1920s were briefly brushed over, like the Heimosodat (Tribal wars over Karelian territory in the early 1920s) and the Flying Finns helped solidify the Finnish national identity and may be of interest to you. I have a Flying Finns video in my files that is sitting unfinished and you may have inspired me to pump it out.
    P.S. Knowing the Finnish inferiority complex of being obsessed with what foreigners think of them and English language media about Finland in general, this video will become quite popular

    • @no8592
      @no8592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flying finns? Please finnish the video

  • @alonemarlin
    @alonemarlin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so well made. Thank you!

  • @heh9392
    @heh9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pakko myöntää et hyvin oli tehty tämäkin video.

  • @Mr.DoTheGamer
    @Mr.DoTheGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So much research have done and animations are superb

  • @henriikkak2091
    @henriikkak2091 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a massive undertaking; to cover so much history in one video.

  • @GegoXaren
    @GegoXaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One fun fact, Swedish Kings often trusted the Finns more than the Swedes...
    And the dominant language in Stockholm was for a time German and Finnish (becouse many Finns moved to Stockholm and German was the language of nobility and trade).

  • @limaluu3250
    @limaluu3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1939 when the soviets asked to move the karelian border 50km west, Sweden actually promised to join Finland in case of war. Most of the influencial people here supported the border change, but we trusted the Swedes to join and declined the soviet offer. But never joined thus forcing Finland to cede more of Karelia

  • @KeyhaneBishomar
    @KeyhaneBishomar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I find Finnish language very interesting and beautiful, greetings 🇮🇷

    • @hornantuutti5157
      @hornantuutti5157 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have a gues where elven language is from in lords of the rings ^^

  • @santiagoguarin8953
    @santiagoguarin8953 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy deserves more views.

  • @AttilaKattila
    @AttilaKattila 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Keep at it, unless there's a conspiracy by YT against you, your channel will reach at least 100k subs. Your content is on the same level as Kraut's, although your channel seems to be more about history and facts, whereas his videos are more about history, (his) interpretations about history and theory.

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really appreciate your support :)

  • @ejno4137
    @ejno4137 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very nice summary of the Finnish history, well done! And I got to say, the pronunciation of many of the Finnish words was very good, for a nonnative speaker.

  • @SuchDarkness
    @SuchDarkness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This guy deserves way more subscribers and views for this high quality content. Only issue I see is that you don't talk very loud, maybe raise your voice.

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will work on getting a new mic haha

    • @minajajokumuu
      @minajajokumuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My device has a volume + & - buttons

    • @MsWill813
      @MsWill813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a Finn, I think his voice was perfect. Not that shouting like most TH-cam.

  • @angelsmagick
    @angelsmagick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for the Video ! I'm now going to watch your videos and subscribe. Happy Holidays from an old Finnish lady!

  • @WandererRTF
    @WandererRTF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The language issue during the Swedish era was not quite as clear cut as presented. It was a peculiar mix with high nobility speaking German (or French later on), merchants speaking German, educated folk speaking Latin and ordinary folk either Finnish or Swedish. That being said the lack of written (or indeed even unified form) of Finnish increased the importance of Swedish language. Regardless the common folk had the right to make their appeals to the Swedish crown in Finnish as well.
    Also Finland was part of the actual Swedish state (i.e. not just a territory) with people having the same rights regardless of language. Also Sweden waged many wars in the west as well against the Danes (and Norwegians) so it wasn't quite as easy going 'in the west' as it might seem. Club war on the other hand was mainly a part of the internal strife which was waged across Sweden so it wasn't just a 'Finnish thing'. The separation plans also were mainly handled by the Swedish nobility of Finland, it wasn't like fully nation wide grassroot level stuff. And it actually had been pondered previously, the commander of the forces who crushed the peasants in Club War also had ideas of creating his own Finnish state. So it is a lot more complicated issue than just Finns vs. Swedes.

  • @MegaDyyd
    @MegaDyyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eeeeyy! This was super chool! I personally would love bit more animation But as the point is history this was awesome!! Well done

  • @luigipfin
    @luigipfin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for understading finnish people :) 2:08

  • @hepe71
    @hepe71 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time in the history, foreign guy tell our history as it was! Thank you- I love you!!

  • @anttis2432
    @anttis2432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Nice video! One slight mistake used in video, during the civil war white side used yellow lion on red background in their flag. It was temporary state flag. Blue crossed flag with white background came after the war. Also the reasons of Continuation war are still to be depaded. After the Winter war Soviet threath was not gone (for example taking down Finnish civilian plane Kaleva), Soviets were not done with the Finnish question (Molotovs discussions with Hitler in 1940).

    • @historycity2840
      @historycity2840  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for the correction :) I hope you’ll continue to support the channel

  • @franklinclinton4539
    @franklinclinton4539 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finland's path in the world is not a fairytale, but a path of sweat, iron and blood. And tears plentiful to fill an ocean.
    It's been an uphill fight for us. But the happiness found at the top and the price we paid on the way, will never be forgotten.

  • @nightspeakerthefallenwing3451
    @nightspeakerthefallenwing3451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finland is the American dream, a strong centralized democratic government who cares for the people and is by the people, we may not be too late to join in Finland's balanced democratic ways ^^

    • @achair7265
      @achair7265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But we're a republic not a full democracy through and through. Being a union of states and counties with even more sub division made it so. People keep saying we're are/should be a democracy but our past has proven that equal representation works far more effective. In fact over the years the government has added democratic reform that now has caused a political imbalance between not just what states but what makes them up counties. One case forever put rural New York on the wayside because now voting power relies on population alone, now bring in NYC and you have the problem.

    • @juku619
      @juku619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is not the case, atleast with these taxes and fuel prices..

    • @zami8827
      @zami8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Leftist parties in Finland makes sure that no one in another places than capital city are happy anymore :D

    • @no8592
      @no8592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2€/L gasoline prices

  • @matsuokaryuu466
    @matsuokaryuu466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vihdoinkin jotakin jota pystyisin kattomaan silloin kun on tylsää. Well Done!

  • @shreyagaming4876
    @shreyagaming4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video
    Its very informative 👍🔥

  • @frederickveron8715
    @frederickveron8715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I can't believe I found this in my recommended interesting video👍👍

  • @macagrooni1126
    @macagrooni1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mahtavaa. Thank you for telling others about our history. Ill give you a follow for this. I bet heres other thankful finns too so yeah. If you make a vid about finland. You will get many finns to your fan base lol. Kiitos

  • @Flupepe
    @Flupepe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video dude! It gave this Finn goosebumbs. Thank you!

  • @seansullivan9205
    @seansullivan9205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Finland is pretty cool

  • @maritariese4945
    @maritariese4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really magnficent research. As being from both swedish and finnish +1 origin I enjoied your historic overwiev. Marvellous you got some fine art as well!

  • @pepi9429
    @pepi9429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:26 Actually, the club war was an uprising against a Finnish military dictator. The rebels sided with a Swedish Duke who eventually became King of Sweden. The clubs were spiky iron-reinforced flails which were quite effective against cavalry. I admit I'm slightly biased here because my ancestor was the leader of the uprising.

  • @benrobinson-2005
    @benrobinson-2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Like how this was made on Sibelius's birthday that's a a good Easter egg

  • @mirvakallio3553
    @mirvakallio3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Quite a few minor or actually some bigger mistakes on the history front. Would have also liked that the music would be from Sibelius instead of Tchaikovsky.. - cause that is like when presenting American history.. you would have 'God save the Queen' playing in the background. Otherwise a good effort for starting an account of history on every country on this planet. Good luck with the project!

  • @divingdave2945
    @divingdave2945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is going to blow up. Then I can say, I was here at 2.41k.

  • @user-ce6iy2nw5o
    @user-ce6iy2nw5o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    damn an actually educated video, finnish history not starting from swedish occupation or russian autonomy

    • @user-ce6iy2nw5o
      @user-ce6iy2nw5o 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i take it back. jerking simo häyhä is cringy af. an american meme