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Trusova & Kostornaia tea confirmed by Yana Rudkovskaya & Evgenia Medvedeva retirement
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2021
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Hi guys, sadly I lost the original source I read the translation of the Medvedeva interview from but still I hope you enjoy since this one is extra long and extra delayed 😅
Amazing nonetheless
I seriously can't imagine how dramatic Russian nationals will be this year when literally anything can happen
Thats not true, ladies is almost decide, kamila and Anna have and deserve her spots, sooo really is who is gonna be the third spot. Even if they are not top3 they are safe. I want Liza yo go but i want Sasha to go too hahaha but thats allá the drama
omg i can't wait. I feel like it's going to be completely wild
@@vicserra2485 dianna davis is bringing the whole nepotism drama and im here for it 🎭
@@phanphuc1929 where though? Here for it too
Aliona will not compete, she broke her hand😭😭😭😭
This explains Sasha’s break down so well. She has been working strategically to get first place at the olympics and being defeated must be a hit in the face. Especially since it was not Kami but Anya who came in first. I think the girls do understand the inflation of their scores and biases of the judging system. So having Anya outperform her with a “mediocre” performance in her eyes must devastating. She feels betrayed by her trainers and jurors.
Yes it is so much more sad given this context :/
And that eteri and her team were clearly telling her that she would definitely win if she landed all 5 quads, only for that to not be true, would have just added to the betrayal she felt. I truly hope sasha and anya can still have a friendship after this because they need each other now more than ever and it would be such a shame to see it fall apart like this.
i mean anya had the better free skate tbh.. trusova has 0 artistry and relies ONLY on her 5 quads 3 of which she did not land cleanly, it was a fair loss despite anya's inflation of scores
@@hw5062 where did you get the info that Eteri told her to jump 5 quads? Eteri wouldn't let her do all the quads so he left for Plushenko. Plushenko also said he discouraged it but Sasha wouldn't listen.
@@mochka9635 she had really good artistry in her short program but unfortunately that was not enough
I found it so cute when Evgenia said she still sometimes see Sasha and Anya as the sweet little 10 year old girls she met years ago!
yes! i need more interaction between them it's too cute
The thing that is just SHOCKING to me about Evgenia's injury is that she was "just" jumping triples. That's the severity of injury she has by doing the "simple" jumps (simple by todays figure skating standarts, please dont misunderstand). If thats what she ended up with by doing triples, what the hell is going to happen to current Eteri girls? Im honestly terrified.
I cant believe Yana is making sense for once.... Maybe it will slowly pick up, maybe more people will question why there are so many broken teenagers....
Also, wouldnt it be hilarious if Evgenia chose to be a coach and then joined Yulia at plushenko camp?
Evgenia was older when she went to the Olys. She will in the end have more longevity, I believe, than Sasha's due to "just" doing triples.
@@72586jejones I think so too! I think she has the potential to make a really lasting name for herself. As upsetting as it is with the current way russia seems to have a revolving door of incredibly talented young skaters, majority of them will probably be forgotten not long after :(
What about Zagitova?
I think the reason of Evgenia’s back injury was bc when she jumped the triples she put more pressure on her upper body to rotate the jumps vs using her legs to complete the jump, her injury was from too much wear and tear using the wrong technique. The best technique would be to use the legs to help rotate the jumps. The newer generation are using the leg technique a bit better so hopefully we won’t see back injuries from Sasha, kamila, etc. Doesn’t mean they don’t stand the chance of getting injured, in this sport there is always going to be injuries but the long term injuries are the ones that change the athletes longevity in the sport.
It’s not that she just jumps triples or just jumping quads. Evgenia’s technique was always terrible and relied heavily on pre rotation, muscling her jumps. If someone jumps doubles with bad technique they will get injured too.
Yana really making some valid points here, im honestly quite suprised. It's concerning that journalist and interviewers seem to be more focused on drama between coaches rather than the health and longevity of these young skaters. Im really hoping that Trusova will be able to pull through 2 olympic cycles she started the quad revolution in ladies skating and elevated the entire ladies field, making history. It was also really unecessary for Tatiana to talk abt Plushenko Jr., there was literally no point in bringing in a literal child into this conversation.
Absolutely. Like eteri and her team ( DANNY G ) are making it out as if she’s the lazy one who doesn’t train hard enough and now that’s what people are starting to say about her but she was literally so injured when she went to plushenko that she could only train a few months. And this was mostly a back injury. At 17!!! And now even evgenia said her back is so injured she can barely turn to the left. BTW SHES 22. But no aliona is the lazy one for not working herself till her spine snapped and she became paralysed. This is honestly shocking. And what’s even crazier is that aliona only performed the 3A consistently for one season. Elizaveta has been doing 3A since like 2014-2015, since last year has been doing 3 each competition and is now 24. Tell me why she doesn’t have severe back problems but aliona at the age of 17 did and evgenia can’t even bend her back when all she did were triple tripples and double axels.
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Liza have been failing to do not only 3A but other jumps for 3 years since 2015 and until 2018. So no. And she only started to do so that consistently since this season, before that she had at least 1/3/3 triple axels without great landings.
@@SamKreinberg you’re missing the point. Liza still lasted through MULTIPLE Olympic cycles. Trusova and Aliona are physically broken at such young ages bc of the brutal eteri machine pumping system. Stop trying to excuse what Eteri has done to these children, which is literally abuse.
@@BaddiePurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr try yourself to compare your statements with the facts:
1. Liza still lasted through MULTIPLE Olympic cycles ...
- and how many Olympics did she participate in? (correct answer = 0). because you need to be the best at the right time.
Now there is a lot of whining that "Lisa deserved her Olympics", but I want the authors of such statements to think first about two things: 1) where was Lisa when the selections for the 2014 and 2018 Olympics were held? 2) whom should RusFed exclude in order for Liza to get a spot on the Olympic team? - while Camila, Anna, Sasha and Maya noticeably surpass her in content.
2.1 Trusova is physically broken...
- we will see on RusNuts in a week, while she is very cheerful.
2.2 Kostornaya is physically broken...
- Aliona started a TH-cam blog, and it's hard to say from the first video that she broke down and retired :-) th-cam.com/video/fIqG4OmWgcM/w-d-xo.html
by the way, Aliona has already said that she is entering the next Olympic cycle (by 2026).
Honestly Russian figure skating drama needs a tv show
Keeping up with the Tutberidze team :)
i can picture it in like a dance moms style
We have this channel...which is close enough to a show...
...would make a great movie however to get all the details and drama it would be longer than the Lord of the Ring special extended directors directors specially extended extended version which runs about 24 hours long (hyperbole of course)
I think what happened to Zhenya is horrifying and people still here defending Eteri like she pays them to be clowns here are incredible. I keep seeing people bring Hanyu into this discussion by saying his textbook technique doesn't save him from injuries lmao Hanyu is a 27 years old man who has been a senior for 10+ years, every athlete gets injured, so does Hanyu. But do you know what the difference is? Hanyu gets injured, he recovers and comes back strong and continues to compete while we consider them lucky if an Eteri girl can compete until they are 20. Every year, she breaks another girl. It's crazy how shameless people defend her on TH-cam, especially after what Elizabet Tursynbaeva's mother said on social media and Zhenya's interviews. And of course, there are Eteri's body-shaming comments.
It's very concerning how openly Zhenya talked about what happened to her and there are other girls like her who criticized or openly talked about how terrible they were physically after working with Eteri but nothing happens. No consequences for her. And those girls are children and teens. They come to her thinking "oh what happened to other girls won't happen to me, I will be different, I feel fine, I will work hard and have a long career" but that's childish innocence and ignorance. At 20 they will barely be able to bend their back. It's incredibly saddening and horrifying. If you think about it, this sport is horrible, people get away with everything, from abuse to sexual assault. There are no consequences for anyone. No one cares what Eteri or Hamada (and Nobunari exposed him?!) or Lambiel do, no one cares about Skating Survivors. I'm so tired.
Preach! My very sentiments. While we enjoy watching these skaters perform magic on ice, we shouldn’t forget that they are human. I just can’t understand people defending Eteri.
Can someone fill me in on what Elizabet Tursynbaeva’s mother said on social media? I totally missed that.
@🦋 Don't know about Lambiel but from what I remember, Hamada is just very verbally and physically abusive to her students. There was a whole exposé essay on her by Nobunari Oda (who also filed a lawsuit against her). She allegedly dragged Satoko around by her ponytail on the ice.
Thank you for stating this! I'm right there with you 👏❤
@@alejandravaldez8027 after the 2019 worlds where elizabet won silver under eteri her mother said elizabet could barely bend her back. At the time she was only 19. Now she’s retired because she has scrummed to her back injuries and she’s only 22 like evgenia. Horrifying.
As much as I want Trusova to make it to the 2026 Olympics I just can’t see it happening. I think mentally she can, but physically it’s slim to none. I don’t even know if Kamila, Maia, and Daria will still be competitive by 2026 with way things are going. Sofia and Adelia will probably take the reigns at that point or even a new batch of upcoming juniors will even take it. I really hate how eteri literally will work these girls to the ground. The drama is entertaining but at some point it comes down to these girls health. Medvedeva can’t even turn to her left without being in pain! I just don’t know far this will go.
Sofia and Adelina won’t last. I think another junior team will take over
Honestly I don't even think Sasha could pull of Rusnats if she fully recovered. Her own nerves have always been her greatest enemy and now the pressure is higher than ever. She didn't get the chance to build momentum by competing as much as the other top contenders, she knows that she needs to prove her consistency in the little amount of time left before Olympics and knows she can't mess up at all, and she knows that Liza or even Maiia could very easily take her spot.
@@sophien.1422 so much pressure I hope the best for her but with the injury and her training anyways with it… I don’t know she needs to be on the podium to prove herself and the injury plus her nerves are holding her back and you’re right even maya and liza look stronger
Honestly, I think Sofia and Adelia making it to 2026 is pushing it. They'll be around 18, and there will be a new 16 year old girl at some point. That's not even taking into account that Plushenkos juniors will be eligible, Zhilina, Muravieva, etc
Sofia and Adelia would be too old by 2026. They would be 18, the same age as Aliona today who is struggling so much due to injuries.
You literally predicted the future. Your commentary on figure skating especially the Russian drama of it all is iconic. I just got into it all following Sasha and Kamila’s breakdown at the Olympics. These videos really helped me understand the background of it all and I must say I feel really sad for Sasha. I see now how devastating it must’ve been for her but I hope to see her in 2026. Anna is a lovely skater, the performances that I saw were all so beautiful so I hope to see her too but I’m really rooting heavily for Sasha to continue her career. There’s something unique about her, she’s not your average cookie cutter, elegant skater, she’s powerful, almost blunt and in your face. I hope she keeps that style of skating and I hope she is eventually rewarded gold for it or maybe despite it. I like that her ex coach said she was stubborn enough to keep going. I hope this Olympics doesn’t change that. I hope Sasha stays stubborn. Those are the types of people that get movies written about them, the daredevils and the rebels.
Sasha's technique is really good, especially compared on Anna who still need to work on her technique a bit more
@@asbniiie7818um, no. Her edge is completely wrong on the flip. She also pre rotates massively. In some ways her technique is a little better than Anna’s but they are both far from having good technique
Sasha isn’t a rebel, she’s a spoiled little girl that got a new puppy every time she learned a jump. She made unreasonable demands of her coaching staff because she’s an entitled diva. She had a real mask off moment when she didn’t get her Olympic gold
I hate how you literally predicted how the Olympics would play out for Sasha, so heartbreaking :(
“I hope [Trusova] isn’t destroyed emotionally by whatever the result of this mess is”
welp, you’re concerns for her mental health were 100% validated, for all the Tutberize girls but especially Sasha, my heart goes out to these kids
Honestly, I was really pleased with Yanas interview. I'm hoping that 1. The rest of the world (and Russia) catches on to how awful this cycle is in ladies skating and 2. That it means Plushenko is coaching his students with longevity in mind.
I was actually surprised that she as a Russian sees what's going on and publicly states it. It seems like Russia can't comprehend that Eteri could be anything other than a goddess
@@anayarey Yeah, that's what was so surprising to me about it! I suppose with Tuktamysheva being a strong contender for the Olympics might be making people question why other Russian ladies have not also been enjoying the same longevity in their careers.
@@anayarey I think a lot of Russians know and probably don’t support it but they don’t want to speak up against it now because eteris system is winning so they don’t want to influence people to start questioning this and stop watching the Russian ladies cause remember these girls are making them crazy money and bringing them publicity. A lot of the top coaches and influential people in Russia all come from and have grown up in a completely different era of ladies skating ( Tatiana tarasova, plushenko, yagudin, mishin, Tamara moskvina ) so it’s hard to think they would like what’s happening. I think if eteri ever stops being able to produce these champions or something really serious ever happens down the track, then you will hear all these people start to voice their REAL opinions on this
okay i know it may not sound convincing at all but as a) russian and b) figure skating coach i can say that both yana and her husband are psychos. like all they do is constantly shitting on other coaches and that’s it. not justifying eteri’s methods tho
@@anniepanski4057 I agree yana is psycho but as a coach and nothing else plushenko is much better than eteri. I could go all day talking about this but the number one example of why eteri is not a coach is aliona kostornia
She came to eteri the latest of all the girls, at 14 I think and by then she had all her jumps that she did under eteri except for the 3A which Sergei rozanov got her
She had one good senior season with eteri because of her 3A and then after that she went to plushenko and he himself said that aliona was so injured that she had stop training for a while, plus aliona got COVID. And by the time that all happened she was 17, right in time for the expiration date. With plushenko her technique got even better. Her technique was always the best of the eteri girls cause she actually had toe pick assistance but she did have a flat edge on her lutz and they were starting to fix it. Same with Sasha when she went there, everything improved so much, Toe pick assistance on her flip and lutz, and she actually came out looking healthy and not like a starved 10 year old. Then she went back to eteri and her skating skills deteriorated and she’s back to full blade assist on jumps and back to doing jump drills. It’s funny how her students with the worst technique ( evgenia and Anna ) came to her as children and basically learnt almost everything from her, and her student with the best technique and best skating skills ( aliona ) came to her at 14 basically already established with all her triples. So yes plushenko and his wife can be crazy, but he’s a better coach than eteri and he actually seems to care about his students
to be honest i think sasha knows exactly what is going on and that shell probably loose to kami. her dad knows that too. I think she just does not care. i dont think her goal would be winning but to make a performance that shows her best. she never won a single titel in her life being a senior (i mean like europeans, worlds, gpf...) and still competed all the way. even at that point you would expect her to win more than now, and still she didnot really care about loosing, but go on. this is what makes her so much alike to yuzuru (..i know he had a long flourishing career but still), because its the sport that makes them go all in, not the judges, the points, the medals. everyone with blind eyes sees that judging in figure skating is never fair. why should she care for something that does not reflect actual achievements.
She was aiming for gold. She was crying like hell in the kiss and cry when took third place. I think it was grand prix final and the start of loosing biggest competitions. Then I guess she started this "I just want 5 quads" mantra to not suffer from defeats each time. Every sportman wants gold.
@@viktoria8189 idk maybe you are right. but she already wanted to jump five quads there but failed so that was also disapointing. i wonder how her reaction would have been if she would have jumped the five quads and still not win
She said in one of the interviews after the Worlds: "An athlete either gets gold or loses. If I don't get gold, it means that I've lost". So she's definetely aiming for gold. But I also think she realises that this aim is very hard to reach right now. Still she's stubborn and hardworking and she won't give up anyway
It’s sad to see now even if she landed everything perfectly, all 5 quads and 3-4 3A’s, I don’t think it’ll be enough to beat Kamila at her best either.
Even if the Olympics get delayed and Trusova manages to qualify, yes that gives her enough time to recover everything, but it also gives Kamila more time to learn more quads, Anna too.
I just think it’s near impossible at this point for her to win, unless something really really bad happens to Kamila.
@@viktoria8189 it was 2019-2020 Russian nationals! right after skate canada and Japan open with all her records. She was sobbing as soon as she got off the ice. she's been saying in interviews for years that either she gets gold or she has lost. she considers anything but gold a failure.
I'm actually with Yana on this. It was unnecassary of Tarasova to insult Plushenko like this and especially their son. While I have personal distaste for Yana's & Evgeni's public appearances (showing off material goods and flaunting wealth) I do believe that his team is better when it comes to coaching. It has been proven time and time again that Team Tutberitze actually are abusive, mentally and physically towards their students.
Reading the comments of non-Russian figure skating fans, I immediately understand who this interview was for Yana. For you. To amuse your nonsense about ozhusnaya Tutberidze.
I'm surprised that you don't know that Yana spoke OPENLY about abusing her son , little Sasha, if he doesn't do something right ( there's a whole interview that you can search). Regardless of i adore my beloved King Plushenko , Yana is ''abuser'' of little Sasha, she was even proud of that. Ok, i agree with Yana, that my Beloved King was the most successful figure skater who was at Olympics podium 4 times ( 2 golds and 2 silvers- not to mention that he was ROBBED at Vancouver Games, robbed by the ISU and Evan Lysachek. Lysachek won gold WITHOUT quadruple jumps and with the ''slow drawing'' performance, while Plushy led after Sp, and landed quadruple jumps in combo,...... Yes, i adore Plushy, but what does Tutberidze team have to do with the correspondence between Yana and Tat !? Why are U so OBSESSED with Tutberidze !? How do U know that Eteri's Team are ''abusive''!? Did U attend their trainings in person !? Do you have any concrete evidences of ''abuse'' !? Charges without real evidence are also a criminal offense. As i know, Eteri's girls have their own parents who follow their trainings sessions, and follow their performances at many international cups and competitions ( we can see them- Anna's, Sasha's, Alyona's parents among the audiences- Sasha even took her dog with her. Alina's and Evgenia's moms were also at Pyeongchang during Olympics). Do you really think that all these parents would allow their children to be abused !?
@@nenavujicin7882 Exactly! Yana confirmed herself that she inhumanely treats her own son in a quest to make him into a famous figure skater.. I wouldn't be surprised if Plushenko is just as ruthless of a coach as Eteri, or will become that way in order to attain the same level of coaching fame. People forget that while Eteri can be rightly criticized and questioned for her methods, no coach before her had so many athletes of the same level vying for just 3 Olympic spots. No matter how she pushes them herself, there is no telling how badly each athlete wants it for themselves and are therefore pushing themselves even harder. And no other coach has as this many students performing such difficult jumps. Of course injuries will happen, as unfortunate as that is. Interestingly, Eteri was also criticized by a lot of the same people for holding Sasha back and not allowing her to do as many quads.. while to me that seems like a genuine concern for someone's health.
Am I the only one that finds the mini cult around Eteri ridiculous? Some people will defend ANYTHING that woman does. It almost reminds me of K-Pop company stans lol. When Daria was hurt, so many people leaned on "Eteri didn't know." They have a physician and your hip is one of the most critical places in figure skating, there is no way she didn't know. And even if Daria herself said nothing, how does a 15 year old kid know how to listen to their body and know how much pain is too much if no one has ever told them much beyond "power through it." These girls have such a short time in the spotlight, and when you are scared out of your mind that someone else might become a favorite over you (which also translates into actually having a real competitive career or not), why should anyone be surprised that they are showing up to competitions not in competitive shape?
Literally and people were saying every athlete gets injured. Yes it’s true but Daria was at her SECOND senior competition and suffered a HIP injury at 15??? Not to mention evgenia interview where she said she can belly turn to the left anymore because her back injuries are so severe and she’s 22. Also elizabet turnsenbayeva who’s mother said she could barely bend her back at 19 years old after training with eteri and now has officially ended her career at 22 due to her continuous back injury. This is horrifying.
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Idk much about daria, but a hip injury at 15... shes not even an adult yet wtf? I hope shes ok now or at least better?? And I didn't pay much attention to figure skating for some time until recently during the olympics and I was so shocked to find out elizabet and evgenia have both retired.... both strong skaters :(
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 and like u said not to mention they're so young...
@@cosmari245 yea daria fractured her hip at 15!! I know everyone can get injuries but for a young woman/girl going through puberty, your hips are one of the strongest bones in the body so it’s concerning that she had such a severe injury. I was so sad when I found out about elizabet as well, she was such a promising talent
coming from the future, it's crazy how many predictions you made. 23:49 "and that she's not destroyed emotionally by whatever the resault of this mess is" :'( idk .. this whole olympics have made me love sasha even more and i just hope she continues even through everything. i see so much future and drive in her
As a 30 year fan of this crazy sport, it was always said/I was always told Yags left Mishin bc Plush was getting all the attention. Even after Yags won post Olympic worlds in 98... Even tho he's a terrible person, I think Yags going to Tat was the best decision.
I’ve always thought technically that Yagudin was a better skater than Plushenko and I agree his union with Tats was a great one. Still today they keep each other company.I watch them on Ice Age⛸🇦🇺
Agreed. Tat&Yag made a great match in the end and worked well for both skaters in the end.
“ I hope she meets her goal and is not destroyed emotionally” this very sadly did not age well
so I'm obsessed with all this drama. after watching your other videos, I went to the official Instagram. the dope test kamila failed was on 12.25.21 the day before she took gold in the Russian championship, which qualified her for the Olympics. now, it's revealed that team tut made promises to Sasha to get her back. and the light bulb goes on, that's why she blew up after getting silver. especially, when she realized she was given a program designed for her to medal behind Kamila
Jesus this is so ridiculously wrong. Team tut told Sasha for years that it was a mistake to focus only on 5 quads. They wanted her to have a complete program. Trusova reacted like that because she realized that her coaches were right all along.
Oh yeah there are definitely fan cam practices of her at worlds. 5 quad free and a 3A in the short. Her training was so good she looked like she coulda broken 260 pts lol.
I'm wondering if the Beijing Olympics will still happen or if they'll be postponed last minute. That'll definitely throw a wrench in everyone's plans and although it would be interesting, I'm still on the fence about it.
Beijing won’t let that happen, even if they have to lockdown all of their own citizens. The ccp will have their Winter Olympics in 2022.
Sasha said the reason because she left Eteri is because Tutberidze didn’t let her jump as much as she wanted, if you watch her interviews all Trusova is talking about are quads and her dogs, so she actually thought she was hold back because Eteri didn’t let her jump so many quads
Omg!! I was there for alysas live! Witnessing the ENTIIRE troll rampage she went on😭😭
you witnessed history
@@paolala 👁👄👁 plz-
I think that Eteri's method is to get her skaters to burn bright, without cause for concern if they quickly burn out. Because this doesn't actually harm her in any way, as a coach, just the skaters (who are, sadly, replaceable.) Although the general public loves to root for skaters who can succeed and last for multiple Olympic seasons (like Kwan, Kim, Asada, Kostner, Tuktamysheva, etc.) it is not necessary for a coach to maintain the same exceptional skaters for multiple seasons in order to get their own record of gold medals--It doesn't matter *who* gets the gold per se, just *how many* golds they can receive, which is enough to make someone a reputable coach (maybe this perception needs to change, which is what I believe Plushenko's wife was getting at.)
Meanwhile, national skating associations who elect skaters for the Olympics will be happy to choose *any* athlete so long as they can likely place gold and are eligible, regardless of who that skater personally is or how long they have lasted the sport. Eteri is able to provide that with the "conveyor" belt of talented ladies, even if her skaters only last for one Olympic season. With respect to her and someone like Mishin, it may come down to a difference in strategy - the the short-game vs. the long-game. Plushenko is a beginner coach so we'll see what strategy he ultimately ends up employing in his skaters, and his skating record, but it seems like he disagrees, at least in principle, with Eteri's method.
I personally disagree with Eteri's method due to the extreme nature of the training that results in lasting physical deformities and injuries on young ladies long term. It's similar to an employer over-working its staff to outcompete its competitor (read: exploitative labor practices.) In addition, due to their age, it's hard to say that these young athletes, when they begin with a coach like Eteri, actually consent to or know what will be expected of them and their bodies under Eteri - so how can we honestly say they have the *ability* to consent to such a training regimen and the risks it poses to them in the first place?
3:42 -- This video is 40mins long. U could just repeat the word "" Tutberidze "" 1000 times, & I'd be drooling on myself -- The way U speak that word alone, IS ASMR 💗💗💗
There are a couple of incorrect things. Trusova wasn’t trying to get ahead of an injury like Evgenia’s, Eteri didn’t let her do all the quads she (or her father) wanted so she left (look up her interview with match tv Trusova said It herself). The video also says Trusova has the same injury as Evgenia’s but I was always under the assumption Evgenia’s injury during the Olympics was a back injury not a foot injury like Trusova
ETA - Match TV documentary with Trusova where she explains she left Eteri because she wouldn't let her do as many quads as she wanted th-cam.com/video/NXUABHW5Sew/w-d-xo.html
Happy to hear Evgenia is at least happy , she does seem to be enjoying the pairs skating competition . She is the reason I watch woman's figure skating . Finally got it after watch the long program at the 2016 Worlds.
If they want to have a long career, just see how Tuktik does. She keep progressing, achieving every jump one by one. She might be not accelerated as fast as Eteri girls, but she obviously have more stabil and progressive carer.
She has an entirely different jumping technique. Much more classic style. So does Aliona actually, But the competition is really tough and I’m not sure she’s going to survive through the Liza was able to
30:00 -- When I saw the interview with that Olympic host on Instagram, I KNEW Medvedeva was retiring
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My tummy hurts now :(
wow the 40 minutes were like 5 min to me! Thank you so much for the preparation and summary of the news!
I support Yana in this and wish good luck to Sasha Trusova for the Olympics!!!
9:55 -- Right now, Brian Orser is the greatest coach ever. He now has THREE GOLD medals, in addition to the two he won while competing 💗💗
In the history of figure skating competition, the most successful coach is Tatiana Tarasova . I'm sorry to say that ( and i even don't agree with some of the Tat's statements), but the fact is that she's the most successful coach ( the list of her students, winners of Olympics gold, Worlds golds,...., is really the longest- not to mention Rodnina- Zaitsev who won 3 Olympics gold 3 times). Of course, i respect other coaches , and wish to my King Plushenko successful coaching career.
@@nenavujicin7882 извините, что по-русски.. Тарасова всегда брала уже подготовленных другими тренерами спортсменов, поэтому у неё и золота много.. она никого с нуля не вырастила, кроме Бестемьяновой и Букина.
Tutberidze does not coach. She receives skaters with existing skills. They're like a factory.
Honestly I am SO SO happy seeing evginia (sp?) happy! Shes going to parties still skating for fun with her hot partner and she just generally feels more relaxed. Figure skating is a cut throat sport but it doesnt HAVE to be it can just be enjoyed which is what she seems to be doing. She so deserves time off to enjoy her life after all the hard work she put in.
there is a timeline where all the Eteri girls break down except for Maya who just needs to land a 2A and any quad to win Olympic gold
Love to listen to this with retrospective. "Whatever her goal is, I hope she doesn't get destroyed emotionally by the result of this mess" ...oh sweet summer child...
Well Sasha didn’t get what was promised….i can kinda understand her outburst now.
She wasn’t promised a gold medal. That is total bs
"Let's train you until your bones crash into each other and then replace you" lol
40+ minutes?!?! Thank you! I love your commentary.
Oh, my my my, I can't wait for nationals!
Great video as always. But I cannot agree with you on some things. Trusova left Tutberidze in 2020 not because of the injures or that she was afraid of being injured. She actually wanted to go to Rafael but the pandemic riuned her plans. She wanted more attention and of course didn't like being surpassed in the group by Kostronaya. Especially since Kostornaya doesn't do any quads. Trusova is still planning on going training abroad, she wants a long career. A for Medvedeva's back, yes she has had some problems at the Olympics already but still she was capable to compete in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020 seasons. The final point came during summer of 2020 when she was either in Japan or in CSKA training with Tarasova (Buyanova didn't want to take her and all the responsibility), so Evgenia injured herself even more by training basically with no coach at all. When she returned to Tutberidze the 1st thing Eteri did was to sent Evgenia to medical check-up - that's what Russian coaches usually do with the athletes who come from other training camps (or they HAVE to do it, I'm not sure). The diagnosis was that Evgenia couldn't skate at full force and was to do exercise, healing and etc. That's why we didn't manage to see Evgenia at any of the Russia Cups in the fall of 2020.
You said 1 great thing in the video that both Kostornaya and Trusova were training BY THEMSELVES in the Angels of Plushenko. Trusova was basically ALONE on the ice most of the time, her only help was by Dmitri Mikhailov. Kostornaya actually complained to the RusFed about not being trained properly, Trusova never complained. Around winter 2021 Plushenko was cut off from financial support from the RusFed, I don't know if the performance of Sasha and Alyona at Rostelecom Cup was the reason or something else. Basically both Kostornaya and Trusova since then had no REASONS to stay in the Angels with no support and failed results.Kostornaya realised it first and ran to Tutberidze. Her whole career was under question. Both girls returned from Plushenko with money debts. Rudkovskaya mentioned that Sasha still has to skate in one of their shows - I don't know if that would happen. I've read that she paid all her debts, as for Kostornaya - I don't know.
The point of all your videos is to show that Eteri is a monster - or at least it feels like this. But I would like to ask you to not jump to such fast conclusions, Russian figure skating is a messed world full of intrigues and lies. There's a lot of people who do not want the success of Russian girls or the Eteri girls. Some Russian coaches and officials are actually rooting for Japanese skaters or other foreign ones. Tarasova always did. The latest thing that I know is that Kamila was given such huge points for her skating because the aim is to discourage other Tutberidze girls, to make them nervous. Yana Rudkovskaya's speech is directed mostly to bring down Trusova, to present her as a capricious little diva. Both Yana and Plushenko support the Mishin camp - they want to see Tuktamysheva win over Trusova at the Nationals that's why we hear a lot of comments of how good Liza is (although her components are questionable, to me her skating has become real slow) and how unstable, non-artistic and bad Trusova is. So make up your own mind.
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Eteri should be hated because she’s an abuser there’s nothing else to be considered
@@seila6020 so childish to say so. Btw all the girls train with her at their own will, they are not kept hostage. Yes, there are a lot of questions concerning her training methods, injures and etc, but let's not demonize her. Mishin is not an angel either. Look at Guliakova and Samodurova, where are the results? They regressed so much.
Does anyone know what Evgenia's injury exactly was?
@@khalisi2024 You don’t seem to understand the situation the girls are in.
They are children they trust the adults around them to guide them safely.
And even if they do want to leave where do they go? If they don’t want to throw their career away where can they go?
Russia has only a few coaches that could teach at such a level. And Eteris support from the Federation makes it impossible to succeed with any other coach.
Look at Russian nationals 21, Sasha was 20 Points behind Anya despite showing the same technical difficulty.
Ofc she came back after those experiences
Quiero pensar que si Kostornaia no está con lesiones, es porque se pasó el año de Plushenko literalmente descansando el cuerpo y permitiéndole recuperarse y no seguir empeorando. Tiene mucho que agradecer a Plushenko de que haya antepuesto su salud a los éxitos o a demostrar que es un entrenador competente forzando su salud. Incluso ahora ella tiene más perspectiva y se desmarca del nivel tan alto de entrenamientos, como le hemos oído decir, que no son robots. Puede que se haya salvado para otro par de años con suerte. Tal vez no esté en lo más alto del podium en las competiciones importantes, pero podrá patinar con solvencia. Si fuera aún más lista, se iría con Mishin. Trusova también. Aunque en cuanto a coreografía, para mí Mishin está muy por debajo de Daniil, por mal que nos caiga. Kamila baila sobre el hielo, los programas de años atrás de las demás patinadoras (no sé qué le pasó este, pero menos Kamila y el corto de Trusova, son todos olvidables y nada emocionantes), no llegan al nivel de Kamila de estar bailando y resulta que casualmente está sobre el hielo, pero son espectaculares y preciosos. Sin embargo, los programas de Mishin no terminan de emocionarme. Me emocionan Misha y Liza, pero por ellos, no por la belleza de sus programas, que son más clásicos (aunque el de Misha de la temporada pasada literalmente me hace llorar, pero es que esa música y su interpretación...). Considero que tienen que sopesar: ¿quiero un programa ganador o una carrera larga? Y decidir en consecuencia.
Sólo espero que siempre antepongan su salud a cualquier cosa...
Yo no creo que Kostornaya tenga que agradecer mucho a Plushenko, según palabras de Yana, la aceptó en su equipo, y después, ante él ultimátum de Trusova, la dejó tirada como una comilla. La profesionalidad de Plushenko un 0.
En cuanto a las coreografías disiento, Daniil G. Tiene unas coreografías horribles, sin sentido ni unión entre música y patinaje, ahora bien, si alguien es un buen intérprete te puede vender la coreografía aunque sea un desastre, Kolyada es un intérprete maravilloso, Kostornaya también, Liza es más plana en cuanto a interpretación y le da más importancia a los saltos que a la coreografia. A Trusova le pondrías poner la mejor coreo del mundo y aunque ha mejorado mucho desde que pasó un año con Plushenko a mi no me transmite nada. Valieva es flexible y rápida y su programa es complicado pero le miras a la cara y me da la sensación de que sólo siente angustia.
@@Galaclar I think Daniils choreos are the same elements just in a different sequence. The girls are basically just doing variations of the same choreo. I'm wondering why Tutberitze doesn't get another choreographer in addition to Daniil
@@anayarey yo también me planteo porque Eteri mantiene a ese bueno para nada de Daniil, incluso me he preguntado si serán amantes o si Eteri tenía una deuda con la madre de Daniil, coreografa de la escuela, y le prometió dar trabajo al inútil de Daniil para siempre. Es que sino, no lo entiendo, no solo es un coreógrafo malo, sino que es rencoroso con las alumnas que han criticado sus calamitosas coreografías como Kostornaia o Medvedeva, a la primera acusándola públicamente de vaga, a la segunda intentándole reventar el ex utilizando su canción favorita en la exhibición para Zagitova, y aún por encima cómo carece de ideas la plagio de otra persona pudiendo salpicar el escándalo a Alina. Y ya por no hablar de su obsesión con Anna y su apología de la anorexia.
Who are we kidding. It is the games of thrones for Russian figure skating. Now I desperately want a Targaryen to stir up the water.
RAISE THE DAMN AGE LIMIT how can the ISU just stand by and watch these children getting used and ab*sed till their BACKS FUSE TOGETHER and do nothing
Her: Leave my son alone, he’s 8!
Also her: Wait till he’s 12.
Hold on for a second 😅
The catalyst of Men Figure skating is Yuzuru Hanyu and for Ladies its Alexandra Trusova. These two works hard not only for themselves but for the sport!
What do you mean? Quads? Ladies figure skating has been way more popular before with the likes of Michelle Kwan, Katarina Witt, etc. even Kanwisher and Harding more people would know compared to Trusova.
9:37 13 to 18? more like 13 to 16😂 look at zagitova. after winning 2019 worlds, she retired. AT 16
But Alina retired because of personal reasons more than physical reasons. I mean...emm she's not having any major injuries, she just lost incentive to keep on competiting.
That's really understandable. If we are Alina, having won everything already, why would we want to train 6+hours a day, have to diet to lose weight to jump and have to work very hard to learn quad/3A to compete with Sasha/Anna/Alena/etc while we can just go to shows and earn a lot of money, eat whatever we want, get back to study and have new prospects in life?
Though I do agree that Eteri's technique (Or Sergey? Whoever trains the jumps) did harm the girls' bodies. Zhenya had always muscled/twisted her upper body into her jumps, people have been talking about this even when she's winning everytime.
Now people are talking about Kamila's ankles because she has a kind of not healthy way of landing. I wonder why would fans like us see it while her coach didn't (or just know it but ignored it?)
@@user-qq7zf2fi1u it depends, I respect your opinion, but, yuna kim for example also won everything after the 2010 vancouver olympics, mao asada (although missing the olympic gold, she had a beautiful silver to her credit) also lasted ages. Same for carolina kostner, beloved girl who has been on the podium with Irina Slutskaya and Alina zagitova which is honestly incredible and impressive. Zagitova won everything she could? yes
does this mean she had to retire so early? no, I don’t think so. If you think about that, it’s so sad that her entire sport career can be described in 3-4 programs. The reasons why she retired imo were because eteri is too tough as a coach and her training method are just barbarians. Idk if you heard about valieva’s recent interview… that really scared me. She said that she is studying to becoming a coach IN TWO YEARS?? like she barely just stared her career? I think eteri also plays with these girl’s mind her has made valieva understand that her career is gonna be shorter.
also sorry for my english I’m russian
She was also 18
@@user-qq7zf2fi1u Alina was also 18.
I’m pretty sure the ankle thing for Valieva, which I also see, is partially a visual illusion of her legs being long and her ankles being especially thin. Kamila’s axis in air is really angled (she uses arms in air to straighten herself if you notice - she rippons everything) and her ankles hit the ice at more of an angle. At first I was watching her feeling every jump was precarious but she’s actually really consistent and even has a 3A, which you obviously can’t do with this turn and throw yourself from your back technique as you go forward. She still has that with her quads and her triple axle is kind of low but she does go far and lands.. Among Eteri girls she’s kind of unusual overall. I don’t really know how long she will last, but I do hope she will not have injuries and have some longevity.
So while it is true that there are always more junior girls coming up to work wirh Eteri, i really do not think someone in her position can be as incompetent and uncaring as this channel and some commenters think. They have been getting this criticism about skater longevity for over a decade now. Tuktik is well liked and now supported in and out of Russia. Julia has been vocal about the ED stuff, and it has been blamed on Eteri and any comment about weight or perceived thinness or somebody’s eating habits all goes to her when I don’t know that there’s any evidence for it to be on the coach -. In general athletes, especially gymnasts and figure skaters we need to do jumps and stuff need to be very cognizant of their weight around competitions, like even judging how much water intake they have. It doesn’t seem like she or her daughter have been underweight. I don’t know from the outside you can’t make such judgments but I don’t really see any reason to blame it all on Eteri but it is always what I see.
It would be great if Eteri supported at least one of the current gen skaters long term like Liza. Aliona for example could have the longevity like Tuktik (but better PCS and skating skills and musicality!) if supported through this difficult time. This could give Eteri the proof she can support a skater through adulthood. What I don’t know is whether Skating as a sport has room for that anymore. Tuktik survived in a different landscape.
@@Maca-fh4uk your English is very good you don’t need to apologize. I see what you’re saying but it seemed pretty clear that Alina simply did not want those things. Some people want to do different things in life like get married and have kids instead or lead a quiet life growing tomatoes in a small town instead of being a film star or a busy law career in the big city etc. You may think it’s sad. But it’s not your life. I think you’re writing a lot of stories in your head. If you listen to what she said, and beyond listening, look at her body language and her face. I study these things so I notice. She is at peace.
Don’t get me wrong, I too would’ve liked to see her skate longer, but I’m glad that she’s not doing it because it was very clear to me that she was done with competing. Like truly done. Inside. Herself. Not because of someone else. I’ve been skating and watching skating for over 30 years. And I’ve seen so many people retire over that time. Some of them retired and came back to competitive skating and retired again. Among them Alina is among the youngest retired, but paradoxically probably the one that I can think of the most at peace. So I assume she had her own personal reasons that she strongly feels about :)
I’m only half way through the vid rn but Yana is making some valid points here 👀👀
Well, now Kosto has fractured her arm. Lmao this is all so messed up
Where would we be without Yana😎? Not long ago she stated that Sasha(son) was making about 20-30 million dollars a month from modelling and god knows what else . If anyone could set that deal up it would be Yana.
Grazie per questa bella chiacchierata, e per le parole su Zhenia
Alexei Yagudin didn't really do a Evgenia, as he was young and early in his quest for Olympic gold when he left Mishin because Plushenko was the Trusova in his stable, in a sense - there wasn't room for the two of them and Mishin leaned Evgeni. It was a very different time, to be sure, but the tenor and ferocity of the rivalries between Russian skaters were quite similar to today's, although the field is way more crowded on the ladies' side. Alexei once answered in an interview, when a commentator remarked that he'd won everything there was to win, "not Russian nationals", so the intra-national rivalry and the favoritism shown Evgeni clearly rankled and stayed with him, and fueled him to a gorgeous, lyrical, choreographically balanced skate like nothing I've ever seen Evgeni do, for my taste, anyway. I've been watching this drama since I was a teen and before there was TH-cam, and I recorded the Salt Lake City skates on VHS (!) and adored Yags' two programs.
26:14 There was videos (from skaters), she jumped 5 quads in training at worlds 2021
Am I the only person who thinks Eteri looks like Cruella DeVille? You know, the villain from the Disney movie;, 101 Dalmatians?
That's who I keep thinking she reminds me of.
ALIONA JUST BROKE HER HAND AND WILL NOT COMPETE AT RUSNATS😭😭😭😭😭 now its confirmed, she has no chance at olys
this aged💀
yeah dude
Paola, it's Rudkovskaya, not Rudskaya .
Yana is actually only stating the obvious when it comes to Eteri. And that’s not enough. We all know Eteri’s methods by now and what happens to her skaters. So I say to Yana: if you, that is Evgeni can produce same or better results than Eteri, while keeping the skaters’ health in good shape, I salute you. And by saying this, I am not justifying Eteri’s methods nor am I saying that overworking and ruining the sakter’s body is the only way. I am simply saying, skating is a practical skill - show it. Less talk - more work.
Yeah I know we can talk about this till the cows come home. But the sport is the sport and the results are results. These are Olympic level athletes. They break records. They know what they’re doing. Athletes and their parents will go where they think they will get the best results. Ultimately does anyone think if Eteri said ok I am stopping I quit, or I’m changing my ways, that anything at all would change?! They would go to another coach that they thought would bring them the best results. Do you think she alone or her style caused this? Somebody else would replace her within a nanosecond. Things to change, they have to do with the sport and the standards and how they are evaluated. Eteri Simply figured out how to get the best results with the system being the way it is.
Yana is our FS christmas gift, so much tea.
Yana is the gift that keeps on giving😎🇦🇺
Why is Tat such a drama queen? Sis is so obsessed with sticking her nose in other people’s business. First was the Alina v Evgenia situation and now this. She needs to chill. And to come for Yana’s son. Gurlllll
Why is Tat a drama queen? Why is water wet?
Russia: SOME COACHES ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS (mishin you good, others wanna fight??)
Brian Orser: I get paid enough at the cricket club why am I getting dragged into this mess
Lol i thought I was the only one noticing Eteri isn't liking Evgenias posts on Instagram 😂
I'm starting to like Yana...
Ohhhh this aged well!
Just out of curiosity, what did Alysa say about other skaters in her IG?
I just watched Trusova's Beijing performance and I have to agree with Ashley Wagner. It was an ice jumping show. I'm guessing they don't put in much choreography to spare Sasha's energy for the jumps. Sis needs a better choreographer, one who can incorporate her jumps.
Sasha has said herself that she left Eteri because eteri wouldn’t let her jump as much as she wanted
Yana came for blood lmao
Ohhh, I made it into the OG comments screenshot.
Looove your videos and so happy you're keeping us posted on all the drama.
Zhenya's instagram has been very active lately. So glad she seems to be enjoying her time.
thank you for still watching and sticking around 🤗
Just found your videos today and I have to say I'm hooked onto the storytelling style and informedness of your channel its amazing! Wanted to know who are the sisters you mentioned at 5:01 who started the migration away from Eteri?
Noo Guys, just read the news - Aljona Kostornaya is also injured and will not participate in the Russion Nationals next week 😭🥺
well... alena withdrew from championships. what is this?
Need timestamps
As much as I dislike Rudkovskaya , I agree with her 💯
Im living for a longer video! Spill that tea sis
Wiat so what’s the story behind hot Sergei and alena kosternina
There have been rumours about them being personally involved with each other but nothing has been proven.
I was here for that first "need to talk" video... and thank the figure skating heavens for you, because listening to your videos is way more engaging than surfing through twitter.. ick.
I love how you talked about the beginning your TH-cam career! I feel so proud that I’ve been here since the first figure skating video!
Ugh they just announced the list and I am SO bummed that The Empress is a freakin BACKUP
Honestly stan Yana lol
Omg my comment at the top from the screenshot way back then LOL.. I still absolutely LIVE for these videos
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The number above is the number of Eteri girl still actively skating in the Women's World Tour by the age of 20
Yeah, correct, none
damn i love hearing foreign people struggling trying to pronounce our russian names
This video is well done, Thank you.Russian coaches are physically and mentally abusive.The government Of Russia protects these coaches.Gold at all cost of the athletes .I’m saddened that the world watches and the world allow this to go on.Stop the abuse.As a loving mother this is disturbing to me.
The olympics spoke and seems they value artistry over quads.
I thought at least there would be a little light here, but no, they are also pouring it is unclear what is on Tutberidze. Bye Paola.
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes i love your videos. que dios te bendiga, you have no idea how much i look forward to the " Guys, guys, guys" intro.
this one only has one but next time a guys x3 is warranted i'l be thinking of ya lol, thank you!
I speak Russian, if you ever need a translation, i am here ))))
aww thank you!! i'll definitely keep that in mind 😬
Some of your comments did not age well 😂😂😂🙈
20:08 damnnnn
Paola I think your microphone has a problem.
eteri is scary
Kostornaia broke her arm and won't compete in the Nationals. BOOM
1..let's wait results.
2..Team Tutberidze may really push the effort of training him because all the hate.
3.russia banned , so Eteri has more time to prepare him.
4. DANIEL himself gona work much harder to prove all the haters were wrong.
5. So both Eteri and Daniel really motivated to bring him to gold.
Aliona is injured now 🥲
I believe in Sasha! Nobody can break her. She is strong mentally and physically. She will make it!
19:35 The tea is piping hot BUT IS SHE WRONG????
what did alysa say on that stream?
th-cam.com/video/AUj_YPMcXB8/w-d-xo.html
I dont know if anyone posted the link already but here is the 5 quads from the stockholm world championships practice😁
Noche de paz no significa nada para los rusos mmm
😂😂😂
13:29 Well, Russian Nationals, I guess?