Mystery solved! I couldn't figure out why my old Chevy 235 would hesitate to start after a long drive and a short stop... I would actually see fuel percolate in the glass bowl filter off the carb...that must be the problem! It's the only time I have issues starting the old girl so THANK YOU for this info! Another great video! Thanks for sharing the tips!
Hi Keith. Good to see you posting Thanks for posting the detailed info. My 50 does this all the time here in Ca. I also have no heat shield. I enjoyed seeing ur set up with both electric and mechanical pumps, as it makes perfect sense. Im running a 6 volt fuel pump as my mechanical has been by passed years ago, but I’d like to set mine up like yours, but I got bigger problems.. Had to have my old girl towed the other day.. Tow driver hauled her up on a flatbed.. I was distracted while this was going on but getting her down it was discovered that he hooked her up by the steering linkage!! Now I’ve got a bent drag link! And who knows what else? Pay attention guys if u ever have to have a tow! Make sure you check what they hook your car with and where.
I remember my Dad telling me how Grandpa's '54 Chevy 150 sedan was always hard to start unless it sat for awhile after going into town. They lived about 10 miles away. I think you solved that mystery!
I liked the discussion, Keith. Each time I put my ‘39 to bed in the garage, it takes a few minutes then the smell of fuel begins to emanate and it’s exactly what you speak of. I generally leave the garage door open for awhile to clear the smell. Thanks for the informative video and as always, they’re excellent.
So funny, this just happened to me today. Wife and I went out for a ride, after a half hour of driving we stopped at the store. Came out after 20 minutes and it seemed like the starter was laboring and it didn't fire right away. Took a good 5 or 6 seconds. I thought maybe something with the battery but when I got home all checked out great. Then you posted this describing exactly what happened. Thank you! What brand electric fuel pump do you have?
Thanks for the video in reference to my problem that I had the other day. Nice to see the digital temperature read outs from your various components. I finally found my tool so I've just today put it in my glove box. I can compare your temps to mine. No, I haven't had that issue happen again, but as you suggest on the forum, I'll take notes and be more observant and patient if and when it happens again. This video reminded me about that plate you made between your carb and intake manifold. I tried to find the video where you actually built that plate but I couldn't. Is it about body steel thickness? I'm guessing that you put a gasket below and above it right? I might try making one. But I really don't have much room to work with since my carb studs are pretty short as it is.
the same circumstances can create a too lean situation too. it's a well-known phenomenon with old MGs. interestingly enough the hard starting will respond to a bit of choke. strange but true. probably due to the profund differences in the way a Carter carb and an SU carb work.
Hello Keith, Another excellent video with tons of information. I am just throwing out some ideas and want yours or anyone else insights on them. 1) If you get your vintage engine to run on winter fuel and not have vapour fuel issues would it be even better running when they switch to summer gas? I am just trying to figure out how to combat this issue with winter fuel out in YYC. 2)Also how would the two fuels effect a vehicles tune (timing, carb adjustment, etc).
This happens to my 1939. Usually wide open throttle get it started for me. Also in the original owners manual is talks about this. It reads Instructions for Starting Warm Engines 1. Disengage the clutch. 2. Turn on ignition switch and press the starter pedal, keeping it engaged until engine starts. (The starter pedal besides operating the starter also opens the throttle one-third auto matically.) Note: UNDER EXTREME HOT STARTING CONDITIONS it is advisable, to insure good starting, to pull out the hand throttle to give approximately one-third throttle opening. Caution: Do not pump the foot accelerator before or during starting, as this will cause difficult starting.
I once heard that if you let the engine idle for a couple of minutes before you shut it off, that helps even out the heat and mitigates this issue? Truth or lie??
I’ll bet the car is missing the heat shield over the fuel pump is missing . I live in Texas we get 105 here pavement real hot no problem with heat shield it won’t go 15 mins at 95 with out it .
Hey Kieth! I wanted to ask you something about an old dodge I have but I need to send a Pic of what it is is there a way I can contact you? Instagram? E-mail?
Mystery solved! I couldn't figure out why my old Chevy 235 would hesitate to start after a long drive and a short stop... I would actually see fuel percolate in the glass bowl filter off the carb...that must be the problem! It's the only time I have issues starting the old girl so THANK YOU for this info! Another great video! Thanks for sharing the tips!
Hi Keith.
Good to see you posting
Thanks for posting the detailed info.
My 50 does this all the time here in Ca.
I also have no heat shield.
I enjoyed seeing ur set up with both electric and mechanical pumps, as it makes perfect sense.
Im running a 6 volt fuel pump as my mechanical has been by passed years ago, but I’d like to set mine up like yours, but I got bigger problems..
Had to have my old girl towed the other day.. Tow driver hauled her up on a flatbed.. I was distracted while this was going on but getting her down it was discovered that he hooked her up by the steering linkage!!
Now I’ve got a bent drag link! And who knows what else?
Pay attention guys if u ever have to have a tow! Make sure you check what they hook your car with and where.
I remember my Dad telling me how Grandpa's '54 Chevy 150 sedan was always hard to start unless it sat for awhile after going into town. They lived about 10 miles away. I think you solved that mystery!
I liked the discussion, Keith. Each time I put my ‘39 to bed in the garage, it takes a few minutes then the smell of fuel begins to emanate and it’s exactly what you speak of. I generally leave the garage door open for awhile to clear the smell.
Thanks for the informative video and as always, they’re excellent.
So funny, this just happened to me today. Wife and I went out for a ride, after a half hour of driving we stopped at the store. Came out after 20 minutes and it seemed like the starter was laboring and it didn't fire right away. Took a good 5 or 6 seconds. I thought maybe something with the battery but when I got home all checked out great. Then you posted this describing exactly what happened. Thank you! What brand electric fuel pump do you have?
Thanks for the video in reference to my problem that I had the other day. Nice to see the digital temperature read outs from your various components. I finally found my tool so I've just today put it in my glove box. I can compare your temps to mine. No, I haven't had that issue happen again, but as you suggest on the forum, I'll take notes and be more observant and patient if and when it happens again.
This video reminded me about that plate you made between your carb and intake manifold. I tried to find the video where you actually built that plate but I couldn't. Is it about body steel thickness? I'm guessing that you put a gasket below and above it right? I might try making one. But I really don't have much room to work with since my carb studs are pretty short as it is.
the same circumstances can create a too lean situation too. it's a well-known phenomenon with old MGs. interestingly enough the hard starting will respond to a bit of choke. strange but true. probably due to the profund differences in the way a Carter carb and an SU carb work.
Hello Keith,
Another excellent video with tons of information. I am just throwing out some ideas and want yours or anyone else insights on them.
1) If you get your vintage engine to run on winter fuel and not have vapour fuel issues would it be even better running when they switch to summer gas? I am just trying to figure out how to combat this issue with winter fuel out in YYC.
2)Also how would the two fuels effect a vehicles tune (timing, carb adjustment, etc).
Hi Keith, glad to see another video! My Plymouth is a 49, but just about everything you do applies to my car.....thanks
Is that a squirrel that's not happy with you filming?
I think the spring Robins were in strong agreement with me. Lol.
This happens to my 1939. Usually wide open throttle get it started for me. Also in the original owners manual is talks about this. It reads
Instructions for Starting Warm Engines
1.
Disengage the clutch.
2.
Turn on ignition switch and press the starter pedal, keeping
it engaged until engine starts.
(The starter pedal besides
operating the starter also opens the throttle one-third auto
matically.)
Note: UNDER EXTREME HOT STARTING CONDITIONS
it is advisable, to insure good starting, to pull out the
hand throttle to give approximately one-third throttle
opening.
Caution: Do not pump the foot accelerator before or during
starting, as this will cause difficult starting.
I found this out at 16 when I was really going through my 40 Plymouth
Oh man, what I wouldn't give to cruise around in that thing
She’s far from perfect yet I like the way she looks as-is. I enjoy driving her as a town car. The odometer will roll over to zero soon!
thank god I dont have that problem with the motorcycle lol instant cooling !
I once heard that if you let the engine idle for a couple of minutes before you shut it off, that helps even out the heat and mitigates this issue? Truth or lie??
That's fiction.
mike rowe?
Lol. No.
Why all the oil in the air cleaner? I know they're oil bath filters but that's a lot of oil.
The amount of oil seen is required. There is a fill line mark inside the housing.
I’ll bet the car is missing the heat shield over the fuel pump is missing . I live in Texas we get 105 here pavement real hot no problem with heat shield it won’t go 15 mins at 95 with out it .
Hey Kieth! I wanted to ask you something about an old dodge I have but I need to send a Pic of what it is is there a way I can contact you? Instagram? E-mail?