And here I am casually blowing my dps load all in the opening seconds of the fight and just using abilities as they build up and/or come off cool down.
kinda what I love about MCH. If you do a good opener, the job basically plays itself; it literally plays like a machine where all the gears click in place
I recently got into machinist and it's an amazing job! seeing all these openers and rotation... looks like a lot of muscle memory, right? time to sit down and learn //D but thank you so so much for the guide! it helps so much!!
Thank you for this, I've just switched to Machinist being my main, I'm really enjoying it so far but have not been maxing my output and this is really helpful. I actually tried watching guides by Caetsu Chaiji Ch., nothing personal but I couldn't get into their guides, I found it difficult to follow and wasn't a fan of their teaching style. This channel is much more my speed, subscribed.
Ngl i've been a reaper main since i got my first class to 70, and I'm finally looking to try a ranged dps... and boy from the first 4 minutes this job sounds really, really similar to reaper.
Makes sense but I am also a needs a write up to learn type person. Would you happen to know where one could find a complete write up of a entire two minute rotation that timestamps "use this at insert minute:seconds here" that I can just hammer into my head?
theres one for the standard opener at 2.5 gcd in the machinist gear calc, use !faq gearcalc in the balance discord. But I’d recommend learning broader concepts like battery timings and understanding whether or not you can hc or not. That’ll reduce the amount of thinking you need to do and would make you more flexible around downtime and non 2.5 gcds.
@@Juliacare thanks will look into that. And this is to help lay the groundwork. For some reason MCH never clicked for me but can do stuff like NIN, BLM, and BRD without any real thinking going on. Its mainly I understand the burst and openers, but no one says what you do in the downtime.
Delayed simply said puts more potency into raid buffs and thus has a higher aDPS in vacuum. There are fights out there where the delay can lose you a usage of a tool, in those cases other openers will have preference
There isn't really a reason anymore to have an odd minute burst, we had this before due to a possible trick attack but they changed this since this video was made. Just make sure you have 50 heat and 90-100 battery for your next even minute burst without overcapping. That's all you have to do.
There's something that's been bothering me since I've seen it on the description of the move even before the 6.3. Wildfire of course can fit 6 gcds no if, ands, or buts about that. Hypercharge only has 5 stacks for heat blast of course too, but it has 10s before it goes away and gives an additional 20 weapon damage which matters I believe. Would you be able to after a gcd weave Reassemble (if available) and Hypercharge into a Chainsaw, Drill, or Air Anchor then weave if available Wildfire and Queen/Gauss/Richochet then proceed with the usual Heat Blast nuking and one more gcd that can fit in Wildfire's prog if it was used?
wildfire’s full potential is 1 2.5 gcd and 5x heatblast. If you use any gcd other than heatblast under hypercharge then a stack will be consumed which will make it so you can’t fit 6 gcds under wf anymore. You always want to spend hypercharge stacks on heatblast or its aoe variant.
@@Juliacare jogging it down in my head with the realization about hydrercharge and is fully accurate. Thank you for that clarification because I really wasn’t paying attention when testing it because I wasn’t looking at the stacks after looking again. This job is simple af knowing I don’t have to keep that myth in my head
I know this is like 8 months late, but does the opener change if you have a Ninja doing TA? Or a dancer with Technical Step? IS it because Drill/Chainsaw will still be in the TA/TechStep DPS Boost window? Or do we change our opener because of the TA window? Does Queen recalculate every attack or is her damage output snap-shotted when she's summoned? What's the scale factor for each bit of energy above 50 for Queen? Does anyone else think of MCH as a wand-mage?
Heya, Our opener doesn’t change depending on comps. We default to the delayed tools opener and only go early aa or other non standard openers if doing a delayed tools opener loses us a tool. Currently thats only the case in p12p1 where we use the general purpose/early aa opener. Queen snapshots buffs on every auto attack she does. Above 50 battery, queen scales liniair. Keep in mind that this doesn’t mean we just spam her as we’d lose damage by not putting more battery into buffs which can net you up to - 40% damage increase on actions used inside.
@@Juliacare Ok, thank you. Additional question, does Wildfire snapshot buffs/debuffs when it goes off or when it's first cast? I'm suspecting when it goes off as each GCD ability improves its potency.
@snugglyhugs8698 The total amount it explodes for will benefit from all the buffs that it had when it was first applied. Although it cannot crit or dhit, so it wont gain benefit from those buffs.
Hey Julia sorry after playing Drg for so long I've started to play Mch I just wanted to ask after the opener for the rotation in odd windows we basically keep tools on CD and build resources for Even windows?
So my question is after the opening rotation to a fight are you just using everything on cool down while also timing it with barrel stabilizer for the even minute burst?
Everything on cooldown, and aim to enter 2 minute burst with 50 or more heat. And queen every minute so a 80-100 battery queen aligns with buff windows.
Hello. For delayed tool even minutes burst why do you want to release the queen before air anchor? Understandable if it's 90-100 but if it's less why not air anchor b4 letting her loose?
I don't know if I should learn this stuff or just stick to pushing buttons whenever they come off cooldown. I mean I'm just doing dungeons, not even extreme trials much less ultimates 😂 so much to do, so little time.
I'm a little confused about the general purpose even minutes burst. If you use your tools at every cooldown then it doesn't really align at 2 minutes. Are you using the general purpose even minutes burst early and then using wildfire at the 2 minute mark or are you saving your cooldowns so you do the entire even minutes burst at the 2 minute mark?
If you do the opener and simply keep things on cooldown you should arrive exactly as described in the even minute burst example. If you require additional help then check out mch_questions in the balance discord.
@@Juliacare I think that's the big takeaway on the rotation; do your opener right, and the rest of the job will play itself. You don't have to think too hard about what to do on even minute windows, your cooldowns will tell you what to do
Hey just wanted to start off by saying thanks for the guide, very well and thought out. Second thing is I just started plkaying FFVIX and decided to choose Machinest as my first Job. I have read the guides and read articles on it but my main issue that I find coming from other MMOIs that require you to have higher APM is that they want you to let everything go off CD. In this case for FFXIV i am trying to adjust to the 1 & 2 minute burst windows but my main issue is what am I supposed to do between these. I get contridictions saying I should be using Drill/Anchor/chainsaw off CD and then others say I need to save big stuff l;ike that for my burst windows.... If there is any help you can give with this I would really appreciate it
Early weave is more than fine. The infographics here are slightly outdated and due to the hypercharge change in the last patch we now actually encourage early weaving hc, and late weaving wf.
Machinist use to be my main job until I unlocked Reaper then I just been maining Reaper for the longest time and just now getting back into playing Machinist again and forgot all about it 😂 its a great job despite them being nerfed into the ground for some reason. Machinist is actually still great to play in pvp to and imo has one of the best storylines to it
@@sentralorigin It teaches to put more potency into the raid buffs of your allies while being rDPS neutral. It also lines up very well with the 2.47 bis in the current savage tier.
@@Juliacare thank you. i'm not good enough to clear content for BiS so i just wear the highest ilvl gear i can find which throws off my GCD timings since the sks is all over the place so my rotation never aligns correctly and i'm not sure how to compensate for that
@@takp17 it will depend on if you loose uses of your signature tool abilities throughout the fight. Certain phase timings might make it so. If you do not lose any uses then the delayed opener will default to being better, else you would want to alter your opener in such a way that no uses are lost. One of those alterations is the general purpose opener.
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And here I am casually blowing my dps load all in the opening seconds of the fight and just using abilities as they build up and/or come off cool down.
as lord intended
kinda what I love about MCH. If you do a good opener, the job basically plays itself; it literally plays like a machine where all the gears click in place
I like machinist because there is always something to press and I can move around while doing damage
Super clear and informative - thank you!!
I recently got into machinist and it's an amazing job! seeing all these openers and rotation... looks like a lot of muscle memory, right? time to sit down and learn //D
but thank you so so much for the guide! it helps so much!!
It is a lot of muscle memory, but once you get it down it is by far the MOST satisfying job to play
Think I'm gonna stick to smashing buttons
@@ScaryGary2 yes! I misclick here and there but overall I love the job! Finally a dps I can call "my" dps as I'm actually main heal X3
@@keithmahler4236 nothing wrong about it :3
Amazing guide, thank you so much!
Unlocked machinist yesterday and it just looks like a amazing class with sweet gun and armor design, I’ll be leveling this bad boy up
Thank you for this, I've just switched to Machinist being my main, I'm really enjoying it so far but have not been maxing my output and this is really helpful. I actually tried watching guides by Caetsu Chaiji Ch., nothing personal but I couldn't get into their guides, I found it difficult to follow and wasn't a fan of their teaching style. This channel is much more my speed, subscribed.
I love these guides dude! Thanks for making them. Earned sub and a 👍🏽
Thx for the guide man can't wait to get off work to go play mch
Super helpful! Thank you!
Ngl i've been a reaper main since i got my first class to 70, and I'm finally looking to try a ranged dps... and boy from the first 4 minutes this job sounds really, really similar to reaper.
It sure does. I personally believe Reaper is just a better Machinist, design wise.
Makes sense but I am also a needs a write up to learn type person. Would you happen to know where one could find a complete write up of a entire two minute rotation that timestamps "use this at insert minute:seconds here" that I can just hammer into my head?
theres one for the standard opener at 2.5 gcd in the machinist gear calc, use !faq gearcalc in the balance discord. But I’d recommend learning broader concepts like battery timings and understanding whether or not you can hc or not. That’ll reduce the amount of thinking you need to do and would make you more flexible around downtime and non 2.5 gcds.
@@Juliacare thanks will look into that. And this is to help lay the groundwork. For some reason MCH never clicked for me but can do stuff like NIN, BLM, and BRD without any real thinking going on. Its mainly I understand the burst and openers, but no one says what you do in the downtime.
@@ryantice1186 you just try to enter bursts with 50 heat and use queen at the right time. Downtime is just 123, rico and gauss, and tools on cooldown
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What a magical thumbnail
You said Delayed Tools is the preferred opener but didn't explain why, or when you'd choose one opener over the other. What's the difference?
Delayed simply said puts more potency into raid buffs and thus has a higher aDPS in vacuum. There are fights out there where the delay can lose you a usage of a tool, in those cases other openers will have preference
What's the rotations for delay odd minute burst?
There isn't really a reason anymore to have an odd minute burst, we had this before due to a possible trick attack but they changed this since this video was made. Just make sure you have 50 heat and 90-100 battery for your next even minute burst without overcapping. That's all you have to do.
@@Juliacare Thanks again
There's something that's been bothering me since I've seen it on the description of the move even before the 6.3. Wildfire of course can fit 6 gcds no if, ands, or buts about that. Hypercharge only has 5 stacks for heat blast of course too, but it has 10s before it goes away and gives an additional 20 weapon damage which matters I believe. Would you be able to after a gcd weave Reassemble (if available) and Hypercharge into a Chainsaw, Drill, or Air Anchor then weave if available Wildfire and Queen/Gauss/Richochet then proceed with the usual Heat Blast nuking and one more gcd that can fit in Wildfire's prog if it was used?
wildfire’s full potential is 1 2.5 gcd and 5x heatblast. If you use any gcd other than heatblast under hypercharge then a stack will be consumed which will make it so you can’t fit 6 gcds under wf anymore. You always want to spend hypercharge stacks on heatblast or its aoe variant.
@@Juliacare jogging it down in my head with the realization about hydrercharge and is fully accurate. Thank you for that clarification because I really wasn’t paying attention when testing it because I wasn’t looking at the stacks after looking again. This job is simple af knowing I don’t have to keep that myth in my head
I know this is like 8 months late, but does the opener change if you have a Ninja doing TA? Or a dancer with Technical Step? IS it because Drill/Chainsaw will still be in the TA/TechStep DPS Boost window? Or do we change our opener because of the TA window?
Does Queen recalculate every attack or is her damage output snap-shotted when she's summoned?
What's the scale factor for each bit of energy above 50 for Queen?
Does anyone else think of MCH as a wand-mage?
Heya,
Our opener doesn’t change depending on comps. We default to the delayed tools opener and only go early aa or other non standard openers if doing a delayed tools opener loses us a tool. Currently thats only the case in p12p1 where we use the general purpose/early aa opener.
Queen snapshots buffs on every auto attack she does.
Above 50 battery, queen scales liniair. Keep in mind that this doesn’t mean we just spam her as we’d lose damage by not putting more battery into buffs which can net you up to - 40% damage increase on actions used inside.
@@Juliacare Ok, thank you.
Additional question, does Wildfire snapshot buffs/debuffs when it goes off or when it's first cast? I'm suspecting when it goes off as each GCD ability improves its potency.
@snugglyhugs8698 The total amount it explodes for will benefit from all the buffs that it had when it was first applied. Although it cannot crit or dhit, so it wont gain benefit from those buffs.
Hey Julia sorry after playing Drg for so long I've started to play Mch I just wanted to ask after the opener for the rotation in odd windows we basically keep tools on CD and build resources for Even windows?
thats correct
So my question is after the opening rotation to a fight are you just using everything on cool down while also timing it with barrel stabilizer for the even minute burst?
Everything on cooldown, and aim to enter 2 minute burst with 50 or more heat. And queen every minute so a 80-100 battery queen aligns with buff windows.
Hello. For delayed tool even minutes burst why do you want to release the queen before air anchor? Understandable if it's 90-100 but if it's less why not air anchor b4 letting her loose?
You want queen’s finishers to land in buffs. Delaying queen usage makes her land just outside of 15s buffs.
@@Juliacare how long does she usually run amok? And what's the usual battery meter I have to deploy her at?
@@WiseFatOwl 5 seconds, and she does her finishers after the timer runs out. For battery usage, see the cheatsheet.
I don't know if I should learn this stuff or just stick to pushing buttons whenever they come off cooldown. I mean I'm just doing dungeons, not even extreme trials much less ultimates 😂 so much to do, so little time.
I'm a little confused about the general purpose even minutes burst. If you use your tools at every cooldown then it doesn't really align at 2 minutes. Are you using the general purpose even minutes burst early and then using wildfire at the 2 minute mark or are you saving your cooldowns so you do the entire even minutes burst at the 2 minute mark?
If you do the opener and simply keep things on cooldown you should arrive exactly as described in the even minute burst example.
If you require additional help then check out mch_questions in the balance discord.
@@Juliacare I think that's the big takeaway on the rotation; do your opener right, and the rest of the job will play itself. You don't have to think too hard about what to do on even minute windows, your cooldowns will tell you what to do
Does the Bis of 2.5GCD or 2.47GCD makes any difference for dps?
2.47 does less than a % more due to it being higher ilvl. It also has a slight more vitality so it will be the TOP progression set.
@@Juliacare I see thanks man, was confused with which one was a better set to use.
Hey just wanted to start off by saying thanks for the guide, very well and thought out. Second thing is I just started plkaying FFVIX and decided to choose Machinest as my first Job. I have read the guides and read articles on it but my main issue that I find coming from other MMOIs that require you to have higher APM is that they want you to let everything go off CD. In this case for FFXIV i am trying to adjust to the 1 & 2 minute burst windows but my main issue is what am I supposed to do between these. I get contridictions saying I should be using Drill/Anchor/chainsaw off CD and then others say I need to save big stuff l;ike that for my burst windows.... If there is any help you can give with this I would really appreciate it
Also I had another question while I have yo
u here, is it best to use the standard opener or the delayed tools opener?
keep tools on cd, and make sure you have 50 heat for the next even minute burst. You can spend excess heat on hc between tools so long they dont drift
@@Moses816 delayed is preferred unless it causes you to lose a usage of your tools due to phase or kill timings
Is late weaving Hypercharge necessary or early weaving it still gives you enough time for 5 HBs?
Early weave is more than fine. The infographics here are slightly outdated and due to the hypercharge change in the last patch we now actually encourage early weaving hc, and late weaving wf.
@@Juliacare In that case, will early weaving WF cause you to miss 1 GCD under WF?
not with good ping, but it’s possible if you have poor connection
@@Juliacare cool, thanks!
Do you have to manually detonate wildfire for more damage?
No, only if the target is about to die or go untargetable, then you manually detonate it.
@@Juliacare thank you
bro how are you so fast at Heat Blast within Wildfire
Machinist use to be my main job until I unlocked Reaper then I just been maining Reaper for the longest time and just now getting back into playing Machinist again and forgot all about it 😂 its a great job despite them being nerfed into the ground for some reason. Machinist is actually still great to play in pvp to and imo has one of the best storylines to it
It currently is actually not bad at all! So a good time to play the job, especially in the Endwalker ultimates (TOP & DSR)
what does "Heated Combo GCD" mean?
Heated split, slug or cleanshot. Depending on where you currently are in the combo sequence.
@@Juliacare thank you. what is the reason that the "Delayed Tools" rotation is preferred over the "General Purpose" one?
@@sentralorigin It teaches to put more potency into the raid buffs of your allies while being rDPS neutral. It also lines up very well with the 2.47 bis in the current savage tier.
@@Juliacare thank you. i'm not good enough to clear content for BiS so i just wear the highest ilvl gear i can find which throws off my GCD timings since the sks is all over the place so my rotation never aligns correctly and i'm not sure how to compensate for that
Why is the delayed tool opener preferred over the general opener?
More potency into raid buffs, thus higher aDPS.
@@Juliacare ah gotcha, so are there instances where the general opener is better? or is the delayed always the better option
@@takp17 it will depend on if you loose uses of your signature tool abilities throughout the fight. Certain phase timings might make it so. If you do not lose any uses then the delayed opener will default to being better, else you would want to alter your opener in such a way that no uses are lost. One of those alterations is the general purpose opener.
What is the weapon on thumbnail?
The pvp hellhound
@@Juliacare Thanks!
I feel stupid cause I was gonna say “a gun, what else” not realizing you meant the specific item…
Anyone else find it funny machinist is the most mechanical dps?
*promo sm* 💖