This time, I bring you guys a bit of a different video. I want to keep the same speedrun explanation formula, but I felt like this had to be put out there, since many of the myths discussed in the video are still very widespread. There's gonna be another similar video in the future, and then you can expect me to break down many more world record speedruns!
@Emile Bernat It ties into "speedrunning is too hard to get into". Maybe I should have put more emphasis on the money aspect, because I see this being thrown around in so many "how to get started with speedrunning" tutorials.
In the future could you maybe do some voice tests? I can hear the saliva in your mouth and it's SUPER uncomfortable. Also as perhaps a future topic, could you perhaps talk about toxicity in speedrunning and what can be done to combat it? I mean I've never seen such transphobia outside of actual hate groups and it's astounding how gross things get, especially when you mention Narcissa. I've seen people accusing her of faking being trans, which is a super serious allegation though it does happen, but they never have any evidence to support their claim at all and seem to be using that extreme minority as some sort of shield to get away with saying whatever they want about her.
To he honest I get why people think that. Speedrunning can lead to many frustrations from the runner which can give the impression they don't enjoy what they are doing.
Speedrun can't be two words. That would add an extra character to it. Which would mean it would take more time to type out which in turn goes against the very nature of speedruns.
#10: Speedrun was actually 2 words, "Speed Run", but shortly after it was found that a glitch in the English system allowed players to shorten the gap between them, thus shortening it to "Speedrun" and saving a few frames of speech.
@@ThaAwesome10 actually you mean speedruns WITHOUT glitches aren't speedruns, because since no glitches are allowed (the one shortening the gap between the words included) speedruns without glitches are speed runs.
@@bookbutterfly6613 It stands for Awesome Games Done Quick, it's a super popular charity marathon in the speedrunning community. They usually raise funds for Docters Without Borders and cancer research associations.
"How fast can you crack this safe?" "I'll just pry open this faulty welding." "But you didn't actually crack the safe, you exploited an arbitrary error instead of mastering the challenge that was offered."
"Why are you cheating and skipping that level? Play the game properly you cheat." The skip I am doing is about 40x harder than playing the level "properly". Because of this I don't consider it cheating. As cheating is usually cheap.
*sees cheese pulling off double pillarless strat in his 120 star run* haha look at this noob, he sucks too much to make it on top of the pillars what a scrub
As a speedrunner, i can say that some skips can be 100-300 times harder than doing the level dev intended. Therefore, i have put tons of practice into the trick trying to get it to work consistently, especially for inconsistent tricks. I therefore would consider tricks to skip levels, even harder ones, actually the hardest way to beat a game considering that you need immense practice and skill to do it. People who say “that’s cheating” are therefore totally wrong
@Manek Iridius This might be the only time I've heard the speedrunning community compared to "thousands of armed guards." It's like complaining that librarians are all vicious thugs.
The one that has always gotten me is the "why would you spend thousands of hours playing a game? You could be doing something useful" remark. As if just anyone with enough time can just up and magically cure cancer. But still these same people won't bat an eye that LeBron James spends tens of thousands of hours every single year to be the best in the world at blaming his teammates. And people pay him millions to do it. It's like, *You're on TH-cam WATCHING someone else speedrun a game* and you feel the need to lecture others on how they spend their time?
It's because it's real-world effort toward results in a simulation with minimal entertainment value for those that don't understand said simulation and no obvious real-world application. Hence, nerdy. Now, if everyday vehicles were controlled by joypads…
Myth #11 Tool-Assisted Speedruns (TASes) are cheating/pointless/impossible to beat. TASes are essentially the culmination of all currently known tricks and glitches for a game, and thus serve as a theoretical "best". New discoveries can invalidate this at any time, and thus they aren't TRULY "impossible". They aren't meant to count as much as actual speedruns, but instead serve as a visual guide FOR actual speedruns to emulate. Even "TAS-only tricks" have a use, as later findings can reveal methods for them that are humanly possible sometimes.
People that say that TASes are cheating usually don't realize that TASing and Speedrunning are almost completely different things. Speedrunning could be compared to photographing, you gotta take the shot at the right time, when the camera has in focus what you want to capture in your photo, and you need to have enough practice to take the right angle. TASing on the other hand could be compairing to drawing, you can take how long you want, use any methods you thing is more suitable to you, the important thing is that the final product looks nice.
@MarioPLEX !!! It takes a lot of effort to make quality content like this, which doesn't imply that this editing is especially spectacular. It takes a lot of hours and ability to make a well-edited video like Bismuth's, but, for example, professional documentaries tend to have clearly better editing than this. Moreover, in youtube there are a lot of examples of quality editing that go far beyond the level seen in his videos. One thing does not take away the other.
if all you do in life is comment on successful people's live streams and videos telling them they have no life and should be curing cancer i don't know which one has no life here.
Irony's both a blessing and a curse, sometimes irony can make for a great joke, or it's just outright funny, but other times, you get hypocritical idiots saying stupid garbage they pretty much do.
The world is full of people who have nothing better to do on a Tuesday afternoon then accuse everyone else of being basement dwelling virgins with no life. Somehow the irony is never lost on them.
#3 is so true (I mean, they're all true, but still). I've never been sure what world people live in where telling someone else their hobby is "pointless" is somehow more useful than the hobby itself. The lack of self-awareness those people have is truly astounding. (is this comment ironic? do I lack self-awareness? I'm not sure) Anyway, great video bism8.
Why do people assume speedrunners haven’t played newly released titles the same way we all normally do on our first playthroughs? They don’t buy a new game and then automatically start speed running it. They play through the whole thing as the devs intended for us to play first and _then_ they decide whether it’s worth speed running or not
Maybe it's because I've only been casually involved in the community but the first three points are just completely false. I've never seen or heard anyone use those stereotypes IRL or online. Speedrunning is already a niche in a subculture that's already used to hearing these stereotypes. The only valid point in the whole 13 minute video is the bit about glitches the rest of the video is either false or fantasy.
so i wanna tell my own story : i've been a fan of speedrunning for a long time but never thought of making my own, i was just not that good at any game and i get burnt out pretty quickly... until the day getting over it came out. i played that game like a basement dweller, playing it while watching videos, while eating, playing it all day. kind of like a fidget spinner, just something to get my hand moving... after about 200+ wins i realized that i was getting REALLY QUICK at beating the game.. without even trying to beat it quickly. so i decided to record a speedrun. my time was around 5 minutes. i didn't care to compete for 1# i just wanted to keep it archived on the website so i can look back at it in the future. right now i have about 400~ wins on the game but i don't play it much anymore. if i get into another game like getting over it that doesn't burn me out quickly i might speedrun it too. long story short speedrunning is hard to get into if you don't know what you're doing. you're not supposed to pick some random game and grind yourself at it for days unitl you're quick. you have to play a game that you already know and enjoy so you can grind yourself at it without feeling burnt out or bored.
That Myth #3 makes me laugh. Like, do these people actually think when they say that, that the cure to cancer is seriously gonna spontaneously be found one day by a speedrunner who decided not to speedrun a game that week? You know, compared to the many people we currently have in the medical feild that have been working tirelessly on new advancements over the last 20 years? Naw fam, it's speedrunning. That's why people are dying of cancer, it's all cuz of those damn speedrunner killing thousands of people per year. Those dirty, horrible speedrunners. Yup. Sorry you have cancer, little Johnny. But you should blame those darn speedrunners. They're clearly to blame. Holding back all those medical advancements in science and medicine as they do. What a bunch of selfish, child-killing bastards they are. Don't they have any concern about how all their totally unrelated video game playing are causing the #1 evil of society?? ......give me a damn break. haha.
It's always cancer too. Never "a cure for the common cold" or "a cure for AIDS" or "a cure for carpal tunnel" which would at least have some humor to it. Also WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN YOUNG MAN
You know, it's funny, speedrunners are running games faster than the cancer they are letting spread out and kill people, but in all seriousness, I can't take these people seriously.
@@saltystudios8313 didn't gamers get that protein-folding game solved in like... two weeks? lmao, even though they don't have to be related at all, speedrunners absolutely can and occasionally do cure cancer if given the right opportunity. But like, why do opticians make glasses and charge hundreds of dollars for them when they could be, you know, curing cancer? They have no excuse, they're real doctors this time!!
Also, for those of you that think glitches invalidate speedruns - here’s some fun facts about glitches. The combat system we see in fighting games is born off of a glitch - people were manipulating frame animations in street fighter II, which then allowed them to preform multiple attacks in one combo. Also, warmonger ghandi is also a thing, and is now a feature of the Civ games
I love this video, and part of that reason is how it basically applies to anything. Myth: This thing I don't understand is really simple and easy. Fact: It looks really simple and easy because you don't understand it. Myth: I would be really bad at this thing I know nothing about and have never practiced. Fact: You are always bad at things you know nothing about and need to practice to move from that default state. Myth: This group of people are doing something that is pointless and contributes nothing to the world. Fact: The literal meaning of life is whatever you're doing that prevents you from killing yourself.
Its best to save the best for last due to a psychological effect known as the 'recency effect' where the last item in a list is better remembered then the rest. There is also a similar effect for the first item too. Therefore the most important being last is the optimal way to make a list of any sort.
The "that time could be used to curing cancer" thing and similar seem hypocrite; the exact same thing could be said about their time used to make those stupid comments... Those people really didn't read what they said and thought they're some kind of smarts? I don't know, but I'm starting to dislike the world even more than I did a few years ago. I'm not even speedrunner, but seeing that so many people can be so stupid... it doesn't make me feel good. Also, categories exist, so if you don't like glitching the game out, go into Glitchless instead. If you don't like skipping content, there's No Skips. Sometimes there's choice, but you're just making it difficult on yourself by not trying (^^;;; You don't need to have the best time ever or even world record to be a speedrunner, you can choose to beat it in the least amount of time you can, then beat that time next time. You don't have to compete, just have fun ^^ But, thank you very much for the video! You hit the points perfectly! And, yes, "speedrun" is 1 word.
I'm glad videos like this exist. I remember watching an old Mario bros speedrun on Facebook and the comments were just flooded in the thousands of toxic people claiming it was all hacks and cheats and that speedrunning was a waste of time
The problem with this video is that only people with actual knowledge of speedrun will watch it. I propose everyone to send this video to anyone talking BS about our form of art
@@420sakura1 depends of the game. Lets compare good RPGs (zelda, undertale, mother, earthbound) with shooters. SPEACIALLY FORTNITE BECAUSE ITS THE SHITTIEST GAME EVER CREATED AND ITS FOR VIRGIN KIDS
Quite interesting, although I would also add that you don't need to be the best to speedrun. Take myself for example I openly consider myself a CASUAL speedrunner. That basically means I know I'm probably not going to be holding WRs but that I am willing to improve my skills at playing games. I mean the other myth I would add is that you need an invite or something to get into speedrunning.
This is soooo true, and a lot of these apply to all aspects of gaming. I'm a casual speedrunner. I run every once in a while, no world records or anything just for fun. My main game is metal gear solid 1, and if someone says the glitches are easy, pls be quiet. Glitching a game sometimes is extremely challenging, don't question a speedrunner, till you have tried it.
Some games are easier to trick like that than others... Monkey Ball is very far on the "hard to fake" side, considering all the UI and sound elements you'd have to balance (score, tilt of life icons, music that doesn't stop between levels, banana count, etc.).
@@ShadwSonic The Gerudo Valley splice being referred to was stupidly obvious. The music abruptly jumps to a different part of the track right when the screen fades to white.
12:33 this point was very important, myself for example, I also speedrun smb1 1-1 just for fun even if I don't know how to perform any glitches, and I only use normal phone clocks instead of speedrun clocks. Again, you can just do it for fun, no need to be the best speedrunner.
"Using glitches isn't REAL speedrunning!" I hate when people use this one, it's just the No True Scotsman fallacy but for video games. Different people can and do enjoy the same thing in different ways; yours is not the definitive method of enjoyment. As Bismuth states, that's what categories are for. It's a community effort to decide, and people are welcome to play the way they enjoy. But there's no reason to shit on the way *other* people enjoy the game.
I think people that say glitches invalidate speedruns are people that looked up a speedrun expecting their casual speedrun to be close to or even better than the world record and now they’re pissed that they weren’t even in the same ballpark
Thank you for making this! This serves as a very in-depth, yet newbie-friendly intro to speedrunning. I’ll be sure to link this video to anybody confused about the subject :)
I have seen some extremely stupid people in youtube comments arguing that glitches are cheating. They’re not, glitches are just cases of developer laziness/oversights that speedrunners make use out of. You can treat the game’s code as a rulebook and the game as a referee. If an action isn’t allowed in the rulebook it won’t happen. Glitches just use mechanics allowed in the rulebook to get a result making the speedrun faster. The game checks the code and says “Well, nothing here explicitly forbids this” and yes games are that lax. Saying that glitches are cheating is therefore fundamentally wrong.
I used to think of speed running as this strange thing that seemed kinda dumb, but after watching some speed runners I realized that they’re just normal people who like games like everyone else, they just like playing them in different ways, it’s not like a separate thing entirely from playing a game, they still appreciate the game, just in different and arguably more ways.
Excellent video. Something I'd have as #11 would be "You can only run what's on the leaderboards". People take the boards super seriously and rarely explore other ways of doing runs. I've even seen instances of people asking permission to run a category idea they came up with, as it wasn't on the leaderboards.
I will say for #2 Speedrunning often times I consider new games for speedrun potential often. Speedrunning reframes approaches to casual games a bit, but its not unhealthy and often comes with appreciation for design.
Speedrunning is so misunderstood. If you look at the comments on any video about a controversial speedrunning technique, there will be so many people who just think that speedrunners who dislike a technique (e.g. lookdown in Goldeneye) are just being crybabies and that nothing matters as long as it makes the game faster. They seemingly can't comprehend that speedrunners enjoy the competition and the act of running the game, not just the pride of ranking highly
It's also easy to think speedrunning is just about competition, but actually it's about personal achievements, and people in the community are friendly, and they always share their strats and ideas. If they don't, it's not respected.
"speedrunning is hard to get into" all you need is a timer and a game. If you want you can look up guides. Its the same as any other hobby, easy to acsess and get into, but hard to master
I hear alot of complaining about glitches in speedruns and my opinion is I prefer both glitchless or glitches. Glitchless - If I want relaxing long show. Glitches - If I want to ask myself following : what the heck just happened. I love to see new tricks.
I speedran Zelda OoT back in the early days, I remember when the (Kazooie?) figured out how to glitch through the door of time. I remember so many of the comments were of people mocking the idea of skipping two dungeons, as though this was discovered by people who were impatient and/or lacked the skill to beat the game normally.
"I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning" The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario') Obviously, there are exceptions to this and some people more in the center or right also "speedrun". However, they more than sufficient to prove the rule, rather than contrast it. Consider how woke GDQ has been, almost since the very beginning. Your eyes will start to open. Returning to the topic of the work ethic... A "speedrunner" may well spend hours a day at their craft, but this is ultimately a meaningless exercise, since they will ultimately accomplish exactly that which is done in less collective time by a casual player. This is thus a waste of effort on the behalf of the "speedrunner". Put more simply, they are spending their work effort on something that someone else has already done (and done in a way deemed 'correct' by the creator of the artwork). Why do they do this? The answer is quite obvious if you think about it. The goal is the illusion of speed and the desire (SUBCONSCIOUS) to promote radical leftist, borderline Communist ideals of how easy work is. Everyone always says that "speedruns" look easy. That is part of the aesthetic. Think about the phrase "fully automated luxury Communism" in the context of "speedrunning" and I strongly suspect that things will start to 'click' in your mind. What happens to the individual in this? Individual accomplishment in "speedrunning" is simply waiting for another person to steal your techniques in order to defeat you. Where is something like "intellectual property" or "patent" in this necessarily communitarian process? Now, as to the sexual archetype model and 'speedrunning' generally... If you have any passing familiarity with Jordan Peterson's broader oeuvre and of Jungian psychology, you likely already know where I am going with this. However, I will say more for the uninitiated. Keep this passage from Maps of Meaning (91) in mind: "The Archetypal Son... continually reconstructs defined territory, as a consequence of the 'assimilation' of the unknown [as a consequence of 'incestuous' (that is, 'sexual' - read creative) union with the Great Mother]" In other words, there is a connection between 'sexuality' and creativity that we see throughout time (as Peterson points out with Tiamat and other examples). In the sexual marketplace, which archetypes are simultaneously deemed the most creative and valued the highest? The answer is obviously entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and others. Given that we evolved and each thing we do must have an evolutionary purpose (OR CAUSE), what archetype is the 'speedrunner' engaged in, who is accomplishing nothing new? They are aiming to make a new sexual archetype, based upon 'speed' rather than 'doing things right' and refuse ownership of what few innovations they can provide to their own scene, denying creativity within their very own sexual archetype. This is necessarily leftist. The obvious protest to this would be the 'glitchless 100% run', which in many ways does aim to play the game 'as intended' but seems to simply add the element of 'speed' to the equation. This objection is ultimately meaningless when one considers how long a game is intended to be played, in net, by the creators, even when under '100%' conditions. There is still time and effort wasted for no reason other than the ones I proposed above. By now, I am sure that I have bothered a number of you and rustled quite a few of your feathers. I am not saying that 'speedrunning' is bad, but rather that, thinking about the topic philosophically, there are dangerous elements within it."
personally im not a speedrunner but i use speedrun glitches to play the game with more fun,such as the terrain tool extension and the chair/shuttle/gravityglobe warp/zip/clip in astroneer. actually i only do stuff with most of the glitches,unless it makes the game completely unfun(such as mule duping(fixed) in minecraft or KAL overclocking in ksp) also if a game is actually running on a client and a server even when in singleplayer mode,modifications to the client are still glitches as long as the server is happy with them :) also i dont think that rta-specific stuff(mainly consistency and reaction time) are interesting at all.i only do the chair zip with cheat engine slowing the game to 0.4x speed because otherwise it would be quite hard to pull off consistently.
most of these myths just make me sad that some people think (or at least pretend to think) like that and hate on others because of it. though a lot of them seem to just be people that hate games in general and will find any perceived gap to poke at.
I like this video because you didn't censor the comments so the idiots who think speedrunning is bad deserves to be mocked for not knowing its true purpose
Honestly, it's all in what makes you happy as long as it doesn't consume you. My 70-something mother plays the Microsoft solitaire tournaments daily and usually ends up in the top 20 out of a few hundred thousand. I joke that she's a speedrunner and that she should start streaming on Twitch. Now she's considering it.
I changed my opinion on speedrunning after done speedruns myself. Before I thought it's a waste of time to practice a game endless and doing a long run and you need to aim for World record. My opinion changed a bit. Sure some games take longer for a single run and still I won't do such runs. There are a lot of games and every game can be runned. You can pick categories and games based on what you like and how you like it. Games that offer long and short runs have a great benefit. You can train skills in shorter runs. Longer runs, especially 100% runs require less skill on tricks. Longer runs also have the benefit that there is room for error on the way to wr. With a run that takes 30 minutes, you only need to focus these 30 minutes. A run that takes 8 hours is way harder. You can't just reset the game midway through, because you don't have the time for it. Sure such runs still require a lot of skill. I run super Mario 64 with 16 stars, because it's beginner friendly and offers a good run time. I tried different categories, especially the special ones and it makes fun. Now I don't run games, because I want to play new games. Speedrunning offers you a challange on games that you have. There are people that played skyrim 10 times or so. Such people found replay value to a game. With speedrunning you can add replay value to games that you already have. When you don't have something to play, try speedrunning. This adds replay value to a game and it's a challange. You must relearn the game and after that, you see the game with different eyes. There are games or runs with less tricks needed or the tricks are very basic, like walking the fastest way. As I said super Mario 64 is a great choice. 0/1 stars require hard tricks. There are 3 major tricks and the first 2 are hard. 16 stars is a bit longer and requires only the last trick of the 0/1 star run and that easy. There are still more tricks to do but you can choose your route. There is a wr route and that's the fastest way to do it. These tricks can be hard but with a slower route, you have easier tricks. This won't give you wr but still a fast route. 70 and 120 stars are more about an efficient way to collect everything. These still require some tricks for some stars but avoiding these, might give you a slower time but you still can get a good time. On longer runs, they loose a lot of time, compared to a tas run. A tas run just shows what's the fastest way ever possible to a machine, without cheating. Some tricks are too hard to do in a rta and doing it slower but easier to do, is better for longer runs. You know you can do this 99% of the time, instead being able to do it 30% of the time and loosing time, when failing. A shorter run can does harder tricks, because you can faster reset the game and you don't need too long to get to the point. Speedrunning makes fun. When you have nothing to do, try it.
On #7 you talk about glitches and cheats. There's a third important category to remember as well: Exploits. An exploit is a use of intended game mechanics to do things not intended by the developers. Many sequence breaks use mechanics that the developers put into the game intentionally to do things that the developers never anticipated players would do - timed level-ups, precise movement to hit that one tiny patch of jumpable terrain, damage boosting, etc.
Honestly, the only glitches I dislike are the ones that teleport you to the end credits. Like, I don't care if you instantly warp to the final boss and glitch it so that it dies in one hit. But for me, it's *deeply* unsatisfying to just to from the opening area to the end credits instantly. I can't really say what the difference is, but it definitely feels like there is one.
=Some people find that entertaining in a 'what the heck how is this even possible' way, so I guess that's the appeal for some people. Although I do get what ya mean it's not the same. But that's why there's different speedrun categories! Yay.
I don't think I believed any of these myths before, but this is a really cool and informative video anyhow for someone like me who's never really checked out speedrunning before.
Speed run is 2 words NO. That's possibly the only one I never thought of prior to watching this video. The others have come up in arguments with a friend of mine at some point.
myth: TAS speedruns don't require effort or talent Fact: TAS requires a different skillset than standard speedruns and the skills don't overlap. TAS is about seeing the theoretical limits of a game and is more about mathematics than playing ability. They are also fun to watch for different reasons. They SHOULD be properly labeled, but once they are, people should shut the fuck up about it and watch a normal speedrun if they don't like them.
So true! As long as they aren't trying to deceive people into thinking it's a legit fully human speedrun, then there's no problems, I mean playing an instrument is basically tool assisted singing, but that's why it's it's own form of art, a guitarist might have a voice that's reminiscent of kittens in a blender set to liquify, but if he can play the guitar like a legend then he's still talented, it's just a different skill set.
I've found that most people who criticize someone hobby as being a waste of time almost always have things they spend a lot of time and money on that I consider a complete waste. But I would not actually tell them that because it is their time and their money, it's their life and how they spend it is their choice. The fact is life is basically one big waste of time, the best thing you can do is spend that time doing things you enjoy, with people you like. Most people don't ever do anything that changes the world, so that argument is pretty moot. Not to mention, an epic speed run can change the world. As we have seen with the charity drives that are based around speed runs. If not for all the people "wasting" their time, these would never have happened.
someone: *writes a comment saying they should be curing cancer instead of speedrunning* me: you better speedrun deleting that comment before i start an any% speedrun for knocking you unconscious
I like how you showed a picture of darkviperAU to show the difference between someone like him who only plays video games all day for a small audience with no job and then pictures of speed runners who only play a minimal amount of time because of work and social lives
"Speedrunners appreciate the game they play more than anyone else." I think that's reductive. Playing a game a lot and understanding its mechanical quirks is absolutely something people can deeply appreciate, but it's not a marker for how much they appreciate a game. A game can be deeply appreciated by people from playing it just once. They can appreciate drastically different things. Like me, I love combat systems and enjoy understanding them to an extent most people who play those games probably don't. Some people appreciate the lore, characters, and themes of a game. They might study it and try to decipher meaning from it. Speedrunners no doubt appreciate the games they play, but to say they do so more than anyone else is disregarding all of the other ways games can be and are appreciated.
Yes and no. Generally speaking, the quirks and mechanics is absolutely not where the understanding of a speedrunner ends. The lore, themes, characters, music (I'll say this one again: music!), the artistry of a game, speedrunners know and love them inside out. Absolutely inside out. There is almost no easter egg, no hidden feature, no piece of little known fact about the game that you'll tell to a speedrunner and they'll go: "Oh! I didn't know that." Again, generally speaking, of course. Yes, there's also speedrunning for the sake of speedrunning, and people who pick up a game, play through it once and immediately start running. In fact, it's a lot more prevalent today than it was when this video was posted. But as a general rule of thumb, if you take a speedrunner and 50 other people who have experienced a game, the person who will have spent the most time learning about it in every way possible, and the most time playing it, will be the speedrunner, 9 times out of 10.
most of these seem like they come from people who either dont understand speedrunning in general or dont understand/cant appreciate how hard the tricks and glitches actually are to pull off
While i agree about Speedrun being one word, it's a habit that's REALLY hard for me to kick. My first exposure to speedruns was on a show called Cinematech on G4, they would routinely play trailers and gameplay demos of games. One episode they decided to start showing "speed runs" in the bottom corner during the whole episode (Legend of Zelda and Mario 64 16 Star), and they would title it as "speed run." So that is stuck in my head and I have to keep fighting it.
I thought speedrunning was too difficult for me, then I tried with Resident Evil 3 (emulated,NTSC-U,Hard mode, Any%) and I got 1h 44' 24", nothing spectacular but for being my very first attempt at a speedrun I was really pleased. So, yeah, try giving it a shot first who knows... EDIT: now it's 1h 35' 41"
I spend time considering the value of speed running. But I've never antagonized the sport. I think of it as an existential dilemma, such as: why do we play games so much? why do we dedicate time to accomplishing something for which nothing can be shown for? what is a game really outside of the fundamental principles of design? I ask these questions because I am a young game developer. I feel obligated not to waste a player's time, as I am against drawn out narrations, exposition, etc. And believe that the controller is the most immersive part: in fact, I feel that speedrunners are a great example of my speculation, for if by speedrunning, and thus becoming intimate with the controller, that they solve the redundancy of casual play: then control, and especially locomotion, must be the sequitur of immersion. I enjoy learning about speedrunners; and I hope my games will one day lend themselves to the community. I actually believe that certain features, such as randomizers and clocks, aught to be a standard for future games: as they provide a simple addition to the game from which far more interest can occur. But if I make games, I want to do so with these questions in mind, so that I can ensure that something profound is taking place. Edit: also, I can't stand it when people say glitching is boring. When I make games, if I hear about any found glitches (that aren't game breaking) I'm leaving them it.
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This time, I bring you guys a bit of a different video. I want to keep the same speedrun explanation formula, but I felt like this had to be put out there, since many of the myths discussed in the video are still very widespread. There's gonna be another similar video in the future, and then you can expect me to break down many more world record speedruns!
can't wait for September
@Emile Bernat It ties into "speedrunning is too hard to get into". Maybe I should have put more emphasis on the money aspect, because I see this being thrown around in so many "how to get started with speedrunning" tutorials.
In the future could you maybe do some voice tests? I can hear the saliva in your mouth and it's SUPER uncomfortable.
Also as perhaps a future topic, could you perhaps talk about toxicity in speedrunning and what can be done to combat it? I mean I've never seen such transphobia outside of actual hate groups and it's astounding how gross things get, especially when you mention Narcissa. I've seen people accusing her of faking being trans, which is a super serious allegation though it does happen, but they never have any evidence to support their claim at all and seem to be using that extreme minority as some sort of shield to get away with saying whatever they want about her.
@@BJGvideos I have no interest in making a video like that.
@@Bismuth9 Just a suggestion.
“Speedrunners hate the game so they play it fast.”
This just in: Usain Bolt hates races, gets them done as quickly as possible.
Now to be fair this is the logic behind how the protagonist of Initial D got so good at racing.
@@bjaurus6375 Never been interested in such but thats such a hilarious concept I think I just might be now. (sorry to reply to an old comment my dude)
@@hanthonyc it is never too old
To he honest I get why people think that. Speedrunning can lead to many frustrations from the runner which can give the impression they don't enjoy what they are doing.
@Pronator Tendon true. Usually I only reply to comments from 1 year ago or less, but it still is fun.
Speedrun can't be two words. That would add an extra character to it. Which would mean it would take more time to type out which in turn goes against the very nature of speedruns.
If I'm writing about a low% speedrun, I just write spdrn. If it's an any%, I just write .
@@BCGpp u should write n cuz its getting to the end quickly DUH
This is genius
O H S H I T
Just copy the word "speedrun" and then you can paste it for the Pasting% category.
#10: Speedrun was actually 2 words, "Speed Run", but shortly after it was found that a glitch in the English system allowed players to shorten the gap between them, thus shortening it to "Speedrun" and saving a few frames of speech.
This is mega brain
“Speedruns with glitches are not true speedruns”
@@ThaAwesome10 you mean: "speed runs with glitches are not true speed runs" lol
@@ThaAwesome10 actually you mean speedruns WITHOUT glitches aren't speedruns, because since no glitches are allowed (the one shortening the gap between the words included) speedruns without glitches are speed runs.
This, this is clever. Good job
Silly casuals, obviously they beat games faster so they have more time to cure cancer 👍
🤯
MIND BLOWN
"Y u speedrunning when u cud be curing cancer"
AGDQ: Am I a joke to you?
That was my first thought when he got to that part.
WyVern what’s AGDQ?
@@bookbutterfly6613 It stands for Awesome Games Done Quick, it's a super popular charity marathon in the speedrunning community. They usually raise funds for Docters Without Borders and cancer research associations.
WyVern ohhh
@@bookbutterfly6613 many spedrunners invest donation into charity
I sincerely hope that every out of touch youtube commenter sees this video. Very well worded on every point!
What are you doing here trey
@@CasperTheRestless watching videos on youtube.com
Oh hey me too. Anymore sunshine history videos planned?
BlueRiging I’m wondering the same
@@AverageTreyVG Oh, so not curing cancer?
"How fast can you crack this safe?"
"I'll just pry open this faulty welding."
"But you didn't actually crack the safe, you exploited an arbitrary error instead of mastering the challenge that was offered."
"why do you do speedrunning when you could be doing something useful?"
the same reason people play games casually
We do it for fun and its something you do in your free time
@@dhplaz1475 aswell as speedrunners
We finish faster so we have more time to cure cancer.
Kyazar Shadala or play sports for fun
@@FeenoDerg ADGQ in a nutshell
dude: Why are you speedruning and not curing cancer?
Me: why are you watching this video and not curing cancer?
This! ☝️👏
@Mind Control Experiments Then why are you watching youtube instead of learning how to discover a way to cure cancer.
Mind Control Experiments that‘s the mindset!
To be fair, watching a speedrun is different from practicing it for 5,000 hours. But the argument is still really dumb.
dude: why u not curing cancer
Me: you are cancer
Watched this video at 1.5 speed, saving several minutes
LOL
"Why are you cheating and skipping that level? Play the game properly you cheat."
The skip I am doing is about 40x harder than playing the level "properly". Because of this I don't consider it cheating. As cheating is usually cheap.
Rosalina Speedruns Can I copy and paste this counter argument?
@@pikaboy70 lol ok
*sees cheese pulling off double pillarless strat in his 120 star run*
haha look at this noob, he sucks too much to make it on top of the pillars what a scrub
According to that logic, a glitch that makes something easier IS cheating. Which is wrong.
As a speedrunner, i can say that some skips can be 100-300 times harder than doing the level dev intended. Therefore, i have put tons of practice into the trick trying to get it to work consistently, especially for inconsistent tricks. I therefore would consider tricks to skip levels, even harder ones, actually the hardest way to beat a game considering that you need immense practice and skill to do it. People who say “that’s cheating” are therefore totally wrong
Another masterpiece! thanks for painting such clear pictures of speedrunning for those on the outside looking in :D
legend of the tiger no one cares
Hi Kosmic ^^
@Manek Iridius nice job learning nothing from the vid
Hi kosmicd
@Manek Iridius This might be the only time I've heard the speedrunning community compared to "thousands of armed guards." It's like complaining that librarians are all vicious thugs.
That #10 was perfect
no.
@@slovakthrowback3738 Yes
it made me laugh a bit inside!
Metal Lukas no
speed run
The one that has always gotten me is the "why would you spend thousands of hours playing a game? You could be doing something useful" remark. As if just anyone with enough time can just up and magically cure cancer.
But still these same people won't bat an eye that LeBron James spends tens of thousands of hours every single year to be the best in the world at blaming his teammates. And people pay him millions to do it.
It's like, *You're on TH-cam WATCHING someone else speedrun a game* and you feel the need to lecture others on how they spend their time?
It's because it's real-world effort toward results in a simulation with minimal entertainment value for those that don't understand said simulation and no obvious real-world application. Hence, nerdy. Now, if everyday vehicles were controlled by joypads…
@@CarbonRollerCaco no. only reason is that speedrunning isnt as popular as irl sports and how uninformed boomers see videogames in general
xzemiyl And I’d just explained why.
Myth #11 Tool-Assisted Speedruns (TASes) are cheating/pointless/impossible to beat.
TASes are essentially the culmination of all currently known tricks and glitches for a game, and thus serve as a theoretical "best". New discoveries can invalidate this at any time, and thus they aren't TRULY "impossible". They aren't meant to count as much as actual speedruns, but instead serve as a visual guide FOR actual speedruns to emulate. Even "TAS-only tricks" have a use, as later findings can reveal methods for them that are humanly possible sometimes.
The reason I don't mention TASes is because I have a video dedicated to them coming up.
People that say that TASes are cheating usually don't realize that TASing and Speedrunning are almost completely different things.
Speedrunning could be compared to photographing, you gotta take the shot at the right time, when the camera has in focus what you want to capture in your photo, and you need to have enough practice to take the right angle.
TASing on the other hand could be compairing to drawing, you can take how long you want, use any methods you thing is more suitable to you, the important thing is that the final product looks nice.
Fun fact and counterexample for "impossible to beat": the current Ocarina of Time 100% TAS WR is *much* slower than the current RTA WR.
In some cases, the TAS isn't meant to be humanly possible at all, maybe it's just meant to be entertaining or fun to make
And sometimes TASes don't actually care about speed and are more interested in just _styling_ on the game. See the Brain Age runs from GDQ.
I personally believe speedrun is three words
Yes. Spee D run. You run in a speedy fashion.
It’s not eight one-letter words? MY LIFE IS A LIE!
O h H e l l n o...
sp ee drun
Spee d run
These Bismuth and Summoning Salt's videos are far in between but some of the most well edited I've ever seen.
Some of my favorite content on TH-cam.
My absolute favorite content
Bruh this video does not have amazing editing by any stretch of the imagination, it gets the job done but isnt some high level stuff
do look at "ahoy" if you dont know him, hes got some of the best games documentarys Ive ever seen, but it isnt speedrun related.
@MarioPLEX !!! It takes a lot of effort to make quality content like this, which doesn't imply that this editing is especially spectacular. It takes a lot of hours and ability to make a well-edited video like Bismuth's, but, for example, professional documentaries tend to have clearly better editing than this. Moreover, in youtube there are a lot of examples of quality editing that go far beyond the level seen in his videos.
One thing does not take away the other.
if all you do in life is comment on successful people's live streams and videos telling them they have no life and should be curing cancer i don't know which one has no life here.
Irony's both a blessing and a curse, sometimes irony can make for a great joke, or it's just outright funny, but other times, you get hypocritical idiots saying stupid garbage they pretty much do.
Have you found the cure yet?
I wonder if these guys who say "Speedrun is Pointless!" Tried To Even Try It!
@@someguylostontheinternet4504 it's pointless so is "rooting" for your sports team in your living room.
The world is full of people who have nothing better to do on a Tuesday afternoon then accuse everyone else of being basement dwelling virgins with no life. Somehow the irony is never lost on them.
#3 is so true (I mean, they're all true, but still). I've never been sure what world people live in where telling someone else their hobby is "pointless" is somehow more useful than the hobby itself. The lack of self-awareness those people have is truly astounding. (is this comment ironic? do I lack self-awareness? I'm not sure)
Anyway, great video bism8.
Practicalist, physicalist nerdshaming. As long as there's no harm outside of oneself, where's the foul?
2:43 This is now officially my favorite diagram of all time.
Why do people assume speedrunners haven’t played newly released titles the same way we all normally do on our first playthroughs?
They don’t buy a new game and then automatically start speed running it. They play through the whole thing as the devs intended for us to play first and _then_ they decide whether it’s worth speed running or not
it makes me sad that you had to explain how speedrunning is just a hobby and not all speedrunners are basement dwellers
He didn't this video is just shit
@@fuckboi_killa Elaborate
Maybe it's because I've only been casually involved in the community but the first three points are just completely false. I've never seen or heard anyone use those stereotypes IRL or online. Speedrunning is already a niche in a subculture that's already used to hearing these stereotypes. The only valid point in the whole 13 minute video is the bit about glitches the rest of the video is either false or fantasy.
@@fuckboi_killa But he pulled all these comments from his own videos
Why are you assuming that? That isn't stated at any part of this video or in the description.
so i wanna tell my own story :
i've been a fan of speedrunning for a long time but never thought of making my own, i was just not that good at any game and i get burnt out pretty quickly... until the day getting over it came out. i played that game like a basement dweller, playing it while watching videos, while eating, playing it all day. kind of like a fidget spinner, just something to get my hand moving... after about 200+ wins i realized that i was getting REALLY QUICK at beating the game.. without even trying to beat it quickly. so i decided to record a speedrun. my time was around 5 minutes. i didn't care to compete for 1# i just wanted to keep it archived on the website so i can look back at it in the future. right now i have about 400~ wins on the game but i don't play it much anymore. if i get into another game like getting over it that doesn't burn me out quickly i might speedrun it too. long story short speedrunning is hard to get into if you don't know what you're doing. you're not supposed to pick some random game and grind yourself at it for days unitl you're quick. you have to play a game that you already know and enjoy so you can grind yourself at it without feeling burnt out or bored.
I've always wanted to get into speedrunning, but I'm garbage at video games. This is great advice.
10 Myths about Speedrunning
#10 will BLOW YOUR MIND
N O T C L I C K B A I T
That Myth #3 makes me laugh.
Like, do these people actually think when they say that, that the cure to cancer is seriously gonna spontaneously be found one day by a speedrunner who decided not to speedrun a game that week? You know, compared to the many people we currently have in the medical feild that have been working tirelessly on new advancements over the last 20 years? Naw fam, it's speedrunning. That's why people are dying of cancer, it's all cuz of those damn speedrunner killing thousands of people per year. Those dirty, horrible speedrunners.
Yup. Sorry you have cancer, little Johnny. But you should blame those darn speedrunners. They're clearly to blame. Holding back all those medical advancements in science and medicine as they do. What a bunch of selfish, child-killing bastards they are. Don't they have any concern about how all their totally unrelated video game playing are causing the #1 evil of society??
......give me a damn break. haha.
It's always cancer too. Never "a cure for the common cold" or "a cure for AIDS" or "a cure for carpal tunnel" which would at least have some humor to it.
Also WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN YOUNG MAN
You know, it's funny, speedrunners are running games faster than the cancer they are letting spread out and kill people, but in all seriousness, I can't take these people seriously.
Don't forget about Games Done Quick: Speedrunning IN ORDER TO Cure Cancer
Researchers made a game to enlist the help of thousands of gamers to solve the protein folding problem with a certain protein to advance medicine.
@@saltystudios8313 didn't gamers get that protein-folding game solved in like... two weeks? lmao, even though they don't have to be related at all, speedrunners absolutely can and occasionally do cure cancer if given the right opportunity. But like, why do opticians make glasses and charge hundreds of dollars for them when they could be, you know, curing cancer? They have no excuse, they're real doctors this time!!
Also, for those of you that think glitches invalidate speedruns - here’s some fun facts about glitches.
The combat system we see in fighting games is born off of a glitch - people were manipulating frame animations in street fighter II, which then allowed them to preform multiple attacks in one combo.
Also, warmonger ghandi is also a thing, and is now a feature of the Civ games
Precisely, plus almost every glitch is a thousand times harder than playing the game "properly"
even the ability that mario has for walljumping was initially a glitch in SMB1, and now is just another mechanic
I love this video, and part of that reason is how it basically applies to anything.
Myth: This thing I don't understand is really simple and easy. Fact: It looks really simple and easy because you don't understand it.
Myth: I would be really bad at this thing I know nothing about and have never practiced. Fact: You are always bad at things you know nothing about and need to practice to move from that default state.
Myth: This group of people are doing something that is pointless and contributes nothing to the world. Fact: The literal meaning of life is whatever you're doing that prevents you from killing yourself.
why have the most important myth at the very end? smh
Save the best for last
L K why not?
Last but not least
So that you watch the entire video obviously.
Its best to save the best for last due to a psychological effect known as the 'recency effect' where the last item in a list is better remembered then the rest. There is also a similar effect for the first item too. Therefore the most important being last is the optimal way to make a list of any sort.
The "that time could be used to curing cancer" thing and similar seem hypocrite; the exact same thing could be said about their time used to make those stupid comments... Those people really didn't read what they said and thought they're some kind of smarts? I don't know, but I'm starting to dislike the world even more than I did a few years ago. I'm not even speedrunner, but seeing that so many people can be so stupid... it doesn't make me feel good.
Also, categories exist, so if you don't like glitching the game out, go into Glitchless instead. If you don't like skipping content, there's No Skips. Sometimes there's choice, but you're just making it difficult on yourself by not trying (^^;;;
You don't need to have the best time ever or even world record to be a speedrunner, you can choose to beat it in the least amount of time you can, then beat that time next time. You don't have to compete, just have fun ^^
But, thank you very much for the video! You hit the points perfectly! And, yes, "speedrun" is 1 word.
I'm glad videos like this exist. I remember watching an old Mario bros speedrun on Facebook and the comments were just flooded in the thousands of toxic people claiming it was all hacks and cheats and that speedrunning was a waste of time
The problem with this video is that only people with actual knowledge of speedrun will watch it. I propose everyone to send this video to anyone talking BS about our form of art
Video games are not art.
@@420sakura1 if they leave an impact on the player on an emotional level, then yes, they are. BS, I was talking about speedrunning
@@420sakura1 depends of the game. Lets compare good RPGs (zelda, undertale, mother, earthbound) with shooters. SPEACIALLY FORTNITE BECAUSE ITS THE SHITTIEST GAME EVER CREATED AND ITS FOR VIRGIN KIDS
@@420sakura1 Well yes, they can definitely be. Look at something like Ori, Transistor, Final Fantasy...
Hey thats a good idea
Quite interesting, although I would also add that you don't need to be the best to speedrun. Take myself for example I openly consider myself a CASUAL speedrunner. That basically means I know I'm probably not going to be holding WRs but that I am willing to improve my skills at playing games. I mean the other myth I would add is that you need an invite or something to get into speedrunning.
Um, that's literally already on the list...
2:45 selfish: this man found time to build a birdhouse while jonbenét ramsey's murder is still unsolved
This is soooo true, and a lot of these apply to all aspects of gaming. I'm a casual speedrunner. I run every once in a while, no world records or anything just for fun. My main game is metal gear solid 1, and if someone says the glitches are easy, pls be quiet. Glitching a game sometimes is extremely challenging, don't question a speedrunner, till you have tried it.
"That's a stupid myth. Nobody actually thinks that."
(50 people who think that are shown on screen)
"Oh."
That ending was perfect
Dude the comments saying "glitches are cheap and not completing the game" make me angry
Speedrun is two words.
"NO!"
Lol, good video though.
there should be a " curing cancer 100%" speedrun category on speedrun.com
LMAO I WOULD LAUGH IF THEY ADDED THAT
What about the myth that one could get away with an obvious splice in guerudo valley for over 7 years
*oh wait*
Billy Mitchell says hi.
@@420sakura1 tell them I said hi back
Some games are easier to trick like that than others... Monkey Ball is very far on the "hard to fake" side, considering all the UI and sound elements you'd have to balance (score, tilt of life icons, music that doesn't stop between levels, banana count, etc.).
@@ShadwSonic The Gerudo Valley splice being referred to was stupidly obvious. The music abruptly jumps to a different part of the track right when the screen fades to white.
TSA?
12:33 this point was very important, myself for example, I also speedrun smb1 1-1 just for fun even if I don't know how to perform any glitches, and I only use normal phone clocks instead of speedrun clocks. Again, you can just do it for fun, no need to be the best speedrunner.
"Using glitches isn't REAL speedrunning!" I hate when people use this one, it's just the No True Scotsman fallacy but for video games. Different people can and do enjoy the same thing in different ways; yours is not the definitive method of enjoyment. As Bismuth states, that's what categories are for. It's a community effort to decide, and people are welcome to play the way they enjoy. But there's no reason to shit on the way *other* people enjoy the game.
I think people that say glitches invalidate speedruns are people that looked up a speedrun expecting their casual speedrun to be close to or even better than the world record and now they’re pissed that they weren’t even in the same ballpark
TRUE THO
Thank you for making this! This serves as a very in-depth, yet newbie-friendly intro to speedrunning. I’ll be sure to link this video to anybody confused about the subject :)
Glad you cleared up that 10th myth for me, I wasn't completely sure if it was true or false
"glitches are cheating"
Tell that to everyone playing triple-A games this decade.
A little while back, I was playing Forza horizon, and within 5 minutes, I clipped thru the ground on accident. Funniest shit ever.
I have seen some extremely stupid people in youtube comments arguing that glitches are cheating. They’re not, glitches are just cases of developer laziness/oversights that speedrunners make use out of. You can treat the game’s code as a rulebook and the game as a referee. If an action isn’t allowed in the rulebook it won’t happen. Glitches just use mechanics allowed in the rulebook to get a result making the speedrun faster. The game checks the code and says “Well, nothing here explicitly forbids this” and yes games are that lax. Saying that glitches are cheating is therefore fundamentally wrong.
"Speed run is two words" "No" and then I get an Ad that started with "I tell no lies"
I used to think of speed running as this strange thing that seemed kinda dumb, but after watching some speed runners I realized that they’re just normal people who like games like everyone else, they just like playing them in different ways, it’s not like a separate thing entirely from playing a game, they still appreciate the game, just in different and arguably more ways.
MYTH NUMBER 10.
Excellent video. Something I'd have as #11 would be "You can only run what's on the leaderboards". People take the boards super seriously and rarely explore other ways of doing runs. I've even seen instances of people asking permission to run a category idea they came up with, as it wasn't on the leaderboards.
All the things which I've replied to on TH-cam for the past 12 years. Nice to have them all collected in the same video!
Beautiful work!
you're a legend
I will say for #2 Speedrunning often times I consider new games for speedrun potential often. Speedrunning reframes approaches to casual games a bit, but its not unhealthy and often comes with appreciation for design.
Few things piss me off more than people who have no idea what they’re watching leaving hate comments on speedruns
Speedrunning is so misunderstood. If you look at the comments on any video about a controversial speedrunning technique, there will be so many people who just think that speedrunners who dislike a technique (e.g. lookdown in Goldeneye) are just being crybabies and that nothing matters as long as it makes the game faster. They seemingly can't comprehend that speedrunners enjoy the competition and the act of running the game, not just the pride of ranking highly
Good job for actually addressing all stupid comments from stupid people. Really. You're a gem Bismuth.
"Why are you watching someone else play a game when you could play yourself" - mom
Not only for speedrunning but a stupid quote any way
Yeah. Might as well send that to ESPN and watch them crumble into nothing.
I love how every comment shown in this video is by some loser that probably watched their very first speedrun ever.
Mythbusters is looking great.
It's also easy to think speedrunning is just about competition, but actually it's about personal achievements, and people in the community are friendly, and they always share their strats and ideas.
If they don't, it's not respected.
speedrunners spend the most time to try to spend the least time on a game
haha 😐
#10 is probably the most important and well explained one in the whole list. Very well done sir.
"speedrunning is hard to get into"
all you need is a timer and a game. If you want you can look up guides. Its the same as any other hobby, easy to acsess and get into, but hard to master
Nº 10: "Speed run" is two words.
*No.*
thanks i haven't watched the video
@Anton Retro Jr. ... thank you... this comment needed to happen... this is just the most hilarious part of the video!!!
GAMERKAZUYA Why would you read comments before watching the video?
That’s because it would otherwise take longer to type, which goed against speedrunning in general
I literally never heard a single of these misconceptions and still enjoyed that vid.
Your voice is truly something different
I hear alot of complaining about glitches in speedruns and my opinion is I prefer both glitchless or glitches.
Glitchless - If I want relaxing long show.
Glitches - If I want to ask myself following : what the heck just happened.
I love to see new tricks.
I speedran Zelda OoT back in the early days, I remember when the (Kazooie?) figured out how to glitch through the door of time. I remember so many of the comments were of people mocking the idea of skipping two dungeons, as though this was discovered by people who were impatient and/or lacked the skill to beat the game normally.
This video should be titled "Top 10 stupid things people say about speedrunning"
"I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning" The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario') Obviously, there are exceptions to this and some people more in the center or right also "speedrun". However, they more than sufficient to prove the rule, rather than contrast it. Consider how woke GDQ has been, almost since the very beginning. Your eyes will start to open. Returning to the topic of the work ethic... A "speedrunner" may well spend hours a day at their craft, but this is ultimately a meaningless exercise, since they will ultimately accomplish exactly that which is done in less collective time by a casual player. This is thus a waste of effort on the behalf of the "speedrunner". Put more simply, they are spending their work effort on something that someone else has already done (and done in a way deemed 'correct' by the creator of the artwork). Why do they do this? The answer is quite obvious if you think about it. The goal is the illusion of speed and the desire (SUBCONSCIOUS) to promote radical leftist, borderline Communist ideals of how easy work is. Everyone always says that "speedruns" look easy. That is part of the aesthetic. Think about the phrase "fully automated luxury Communism" in the context of "speedrunning" and I strongly suspect that things will start to 'click' in your mind. What happens to the individual in this? Individual accomplishment in "speedrunning" is simply waiting for another person to steal your techniques in order to defeat you. Where is something like "intellectual property" or "patent" in this necessarily communitarian process? Now, as to the sexual archetype model and 'speedrunning' generally... If you have any passing familiarity with Jordan Peterson's broader oeuvre and of Jungian psychology, you likely already know where I am going with this. However, I will say more for the uninitiated. Keep this passage from Maps of Meaning (91) in mind: "The Archetypal Son... continually reconstructs defined territory, as a consequence of the 'assimilation' of the unknown [as a consequence of 'incestuous' (that is, 'sexual' - read creative) union with the Great Mother]" In other words, there is a connection between 'sexuality' and creativity that we see throughout time (as Peterson points out with Tiamat and other examples). In the sexual marketplace, which archetypes are simultaneously deemed the most creative and valued the highest? The answer is obviously entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and others. Given that we evolved and each thing we do must have an evolutionary purpose (OR CAUSE), what archetype is the 'speedrunner' engaged in, who is accomplishing nothing new? They are aiming to make a new sexual archetype, based upon 'speed' rather than 'doing things right' and refuse ownership of what few innovations they can provide to their own scene, denying creativity within their very own sexual archetype. This is necessarily leftist. The obvious protest to this would be the 'glitchless 100% run', which in many ways does aim to play the game 'as intended' but seems to simply add the element of 'speed' to the equation. This objection is ultimately meaningless when one considers how long a game is intended to be played, in net, by the creators, even when under '100%' conditions. There is still time and effort wasted for no reason other than the ones I proposed above. By now, I am sure that I have bothered a number of you and rustled quite a few of your feathers. I am not saying that 'speedrunning' is bad, but rather that, thinking about the topic philosophically, there are dangerous elements within it."
@@charliep7112 i understood that reference
#10: Speedrun was two words, but shortly after a quirk in English was discovered, it became one word.
Any% Glitchless: Long list of what is & isn't allowed.
Any%: Hey, as long as it works.
personally im not a speedrunner but i use speedrun glitches to play the game with more fun,such as the terrain tool extension and the chair/shuttle/gravityglobe warp/zip/clip in astroneer.
actually i only do stuff with most of the glitches,unless it makes the game completely unfun(such as mule duping(fixed) in minecraft or KAL overclocking in ksp)
also if a game is actually running on a client and a server even when in singleplayer mode,modifications to the client are still glitches as long as the server is happy with them :)
also i dont think that rta-specific stuff(mainly consistency and reaction time) are interesting at all.i only do the chair zip with cheat engine slowing the game to 0.4x speed because otherwise it would be quite hard to pull off consistently.
most of these myths just make me sad that some people think (or at least pretend to think) like that and hate on others because of it. though a lot of them seem to just be people that hate games in general and will find any perceived gap to poke at.
Not to mention for Myth #1, that there are 100% speedruns, where you have to complete the ENTIRE game.
I like this video because you didn't censor the comments so the idiots who think speedrunning is bad deserves to be mocked for not knowing its true purpose
YEEESSS
The current Hollow Knight switch world record holder is a professional trombone player who has a full time job at the metropolitan opera.
This is what my parents think of me and other runners. Awesome Video!
Me too
Honestly, it's all in what makes you happy as long as it doesn't consume you. My 70-something mother plays the Microsoft solitaire tournaments daily and usually ends up in the top 20 out of a few hundred thousand. I joke that she's a speedrunner and that she should start streaming on Twitch. Now she's considering it.
Am I the only one who thinks most glitched runs are fascinating to watch?
You're not alone
Considering the last one, it's funny how Super Mario Galaxy 2 puts speedrun as "Speed Run" for one of the stars
I changed my opinion on speedrunning after done speedruns myself. Before I thought it's a waste of time to practice a game endless and doing a long run and you need to aim for World record. My opinion changed a bit. Sure some games take longer for a single run and still I won't do such runs. There are a lot of games and every game can be runned. You can pick categories and games based on what you like and how you like it. Games that offer long and short runs have a great benefit. You can train skills in shorter runs. Longer runs, especially 100% runs require less skill on tricks. Longer runs also have the benefit that there is room for error on the way to wr. With a run that takes 30 minutes, you only need to focus these 30 minutes. A run that takes 8 hours is way harder. You can't just reset the game midway through, because you don't have the time for it. Sure such runs still require a lot of skill.
I run super Mario 64 with 16 stars, because it's beginner friendly and offers a good run time. I tried different categories, especially the special ones and it makes fun. Now I don't run games, because I want to play new games. Speedrunning offers you a challange on games that you have. There are people that played skyrim 10 times or so. Such people found replay value to a game. With speedrunning you can add replay value to games that you already have.
When you don't have something to play, try speedrunning. This adds replay value to a game and it's a challange. You must relearn the game and after that, you see the game with different eyes. There are games or runs with less tricks needed or the tricks are very basic, like walking the fastest way. As I said super Mario 64 is a great choice. 0/1 stars require hard tricks. There are 3 major tricks and the first 2 are hard. 16 stars is a bit longer and requires only the last trick of the 0/1 star run and that easy. There are still more tricks to do but you can choose your route. There is a wr route and that's the fastest way to do it. These tricks can be hard but with a slower route, you have easier tricks. This won't give you wr but still a fast route. 70 and 120 stars are more about an efficient way to collect everything. These still require some tricks for some stars but avoiding these, might give you a slower time but you still can get a good time. On longer runs, they loose a lot of time, compared to a tas run. A tas run just shows what's the fastest way ever possible to a machine, without cheating. Some tricks are too hard to do in a rta and doing it slower but easier to do, is better for longer runs. You know you can do this 99% of the time, instead being able to do it 30% of the time and loosing time, when failing. A shorter run can does harder tricks, because you can faster reset the game and you don't need too long to get to the point.
Speedrunning makes fun. When you have nothing to do, try it.
On #7 you talk about glitches and cheats. There's a third important category to remember as well: Exploits. An exploit is a use of intended game mechanics to do things not intended by the developers. Many sequence breaks use mechanics that the developers put into the game intentionally to do things that the developers never anticipated players would do - timed level-ups, precise movement to hit that one tiny patch of jumpable terrain, damage boosting, etc.
Honestly, the only glitches I dislike are the ones that teleport you to the end credits.
Like, I don't care if you instantly warp to the final boss and glitch it so that it dies in one hit.
But for me, it's *deeply* unsatisfying to just to from the opening area to the end credits instantly.
I can't really say what the difference is, but it definitely feels like there is one.
=Some people find that entertaining in a 'what the heck how is this even possible' way, so I guess that's the appeal for some people. Although I do get what ya mean it's not the same.
But that's why there's different speedrun categories! Yay.
I don't think I believed any of these myths before, but this is a really cool and informative video anyhow for someone like me who's never really checked out speedrunning before.
Great video! I’ve been recently trying speedrunning myself with Bleed 2.
Wow this video is gold, ngl when i talked about speedrunning irl these are in fact some statements i have heard before. Very good work, keep it up ;)
Great video as always. This should be a must watch for everyone.
Speed run is 2 words
NO.
That's possibly the only one I never thought of prior to watching this video.
The others have come up in arguments with a friend of mine at some point.
myth: TAS speedruns don't require effort or talent
Fact: TAS requires a different skillset than standard speedruns and the skills don't overlap. TAS is about seeing the theoretical limits of a game and is more about mathematics than playing ability. They are also fun to watch for different reasons. They SHOULD be properly labeled, but once they are, people should shut the fuck up about it and watch a normal speedrun if they don't like them.
That, and there's more than a few overlaps between both anyway.
So true! As long as they aren't trying to deceive people into thinking it's a legit fully human speedrun, then there's no problems, I mean playing an instrument is basically tool assisted singing, but that's why it's it's own form of art, a guitarist might have a voice that's reminiscent of kittens in a blender set to liquify, but if he can play the guitar like a legend then he's still talented, it's just a different skill set.
I've found that most people who criticize someone hobby as being a waste of time almost always have things they spend a lot of time and money on that I consider a complete waste. But I would not actually tell them that because it is their time and their money, it's their life and how they spend it is their choice. The fact is life is basically one big waste of time, the best thing you can do is spend that time doing things you enjoy, with people you like. Most people don't ever do anything that changes the world, so that argument is pretty moot. Not to mention, an epic speed run can change the world. As we have seen with the charity drives that are based around speed runs. If not for all the people "wasting" their time, these would never have happened.
someone: *writes a comment saying they should be curing cancer instead of speedrunning*
me: you better speedrun deleting that comment before i start an any% speedrun for knocking you unconscious
I like how you showed a picture of darkviperAU to show the difference between someone like him who only plays video games all day for a small audience with no job and then pictures of speed runners who only play a minimal amount of time because of work and social lives
"Glitches are not impressive"
Try doing the flagpole glitch in super mario bros and then come back to me
"Speedrunners appreciate the game they play more than anyone else."
I think that's reductive. Playing a game a lot and understanding its mechanical quirks is absolutely something people can deeply appreciate, but it's not a marker for how much they appreciate a game. A game can be deeply appreciated by people from playing it just once. They can appreciate drastically different things. Like me, I love combat systems and enjoy understanding them to an extent most people who play those games probably don't. Some people appreciate the lore, characters, and themes of a game. They might study it and try to decipher meaning from it. Speedrunners no doubt appreciate the games they play, but to say they do so more than anyone else is disregarding all of the other ways games can be and are appreciated.
Yes and no. Generally speaking, the quirks and mechanics is absolutely not where the understanding of a speedrunner ends. The lore, themes, characters, music (I'll say this one again: music!), the artistry of a game, speedrunners know and love them inside out. Absolutely inside out. There is almost no easter egg, no hidden feature, no piece of little known fact about the game that you'll tell to a speedrunner and they'll go: "Oh! I didn't know that." Again, generally speaking, of course. Yes, there's also speedrunning for the sake of speedrunning, and people who pick up a game, play through it once and immediately start running. In fact, it's a lot more prevalent today than it was when this video was posted. But as a general rule of thumb, if you take a speedrunner and 50 other people who have experienced a game, the person who will have spent the most time learning about it in every way possible, and the most time playing it, will be the speedrunner, 9 times out of 10.
most of these seem like they come from people who either dont understand speedrunning in general or dont understand/cant appreciate how hard the tricks and glitches actually are to pull off
While i agree about Speedrun being one word, it's a habit that's REALLY hard for me to kick. My first exposure to speedruns was on a show called Cinematech on G4, they would routinely play trailers and gameplay demos of games. One episode they decided to start showing "speed runs" in the bottom corner during the whole episode (Legend of Zelda and Mario 64 16 Star), and they would title it as "speed run." So that is stuck in my head and I have to keep fighting it.
3:26 bottom-left dudes are definitely in love lol
Seriously amazing video, glad to see you uploaded again. Also, I’m gonna see a link to this video in reply to a lot of comments lol.
I thought speedrunning was too difficult for me, then I tried with Resident Evil 3 (emulated,NTSC-U,Hard mode, Any%) and I got 1h 44' 24", nothing spectacular but for being my very first attempt at a speedrun I was really pleased.
So, yeah, try giving it a shot first who knows...
EDIT: now it's 1h 35' 41"
I spend time considering the value of speed running. But I've never antagonized the sport. I think of it as an existential dilemma, such as: why do we play games so much? why do we dedicate time to accomplishing something for which nothing can be shown for? what is a game really outside of the fundamental principles of design? I ask these questions because I am a young game developer. I feel obligated not to waste a player's time, as I am against drawn out narrations, exposition, etc. And believe that the controller is the most immersive part: in fact, I feel that speedrunners are a great example of my speculation, for if by speedrunning, and thus becoming intimate with the controller, that they solve the redundancy of casual play: then control, and especially locomotion, must be the sequitur of immersion.
I enjoy learning about speedrunners; and I hope my games will one day lend themselves to the community. I actually believe that certain features, such as randomizers and clocks, aught to be a standard for future games: as they provide a simple addition to the game from which far more interest can occur. But if I make games, I want to do so with these questions in mind, so that I can ensure that something profound is taking place.
Edit: also, I can't stand it when people say glitching is boring. When I make games, if I hear about any found glitches (that aren't game breaking) I'm leaving them it.
Someone: Speed run is two words.
Bismuth: *NOPE*
I found some of the comments pretty funny, but WOW they are some stupid stuff.
The one that hurt the most so far is at the bottom left of 3:30
Agreed