I was auditioning the DT880 600ohm at a headphone store today, they're right at the limit of what the E17 can drive well. With the E09k (also at the store), they're pretty great.
Really enjoyed your video and full detailed review, as well as the explanation, of impedance levels in general and with regards to the DT 880's. You've explained everything so well in your written review that I finally understand the concept of impedance and ohms now. While I had some knowledge b4, it wasn't totally clear so thanks!
may not be quiet enough for silent library unless you turn it way down (as you should - you're in a library lol) . wearing these without music you can hear everything, just muffled. so they contain very little sound (in or out). but that is the design; they are super super comfortable and sound very neutral and accurate
I ended up getting the DT770 Pro 250ohm for use at school and I'm saving up for something like the Audeze LCD2 or Senn HD800 to use at home. Excited for that!
2011, iPod touch... wowsers. I'm glad things have gotten a bit better these days. Portable devices and phones these days can very easily handle the 32 Ohm version. Generally anything up to about 50 Ohms or so, apparently.
Exactly. I love to listen to my DT880 Edition 32 ohm on my notebook WITHOUT any dac/amp stuff and it sounds amazing (mostly classical music and film music)! There is nothing wrong with 32 ohm, really nothing. Even his high praised Focal Clear has an impeadence of only 55 ohm and that wasn´t a problem for him.
He doesn't like Beyerdynamic...these cans are amazing for checking mixdowns in the studio. Specifically, the 250ohm version. The 600ohm is for listening to these at home on a high powered tube amp while the 250ohm are for studio mixing and mastering. The 32ohm versions are just an option for everyone else.
Hi! Thanks for all your informative videos. I am thinking about getting the DT880 600 ohm version. Would the headphone amp (600 ohm) on a Soundblaster ZxR soundcard be able to drive them?
I know Im late to this reply, but this combination is exactly what I have. The dt880 600 ohm and a Soundblaster ZxR. Yes, the card will drive the headphones with a considerably loud volume. Not a crazy volume, but it just hits a very usable volume when max out. I find it falls short the moment you want to pump it up to a crazy boost like when you feel like you want that kind of power every now and then. For moderate listening it's ok, but for sure you'll need a dedicated amp if you want to push the cans to their potential
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the very valuable review. In particular i have a question about the mentioned "damping factor" The higher the better ? i tend to think so because this should allow for a better control of the driver diaphragm movement. Can i go on with this belief ? Thanks a lot again. Kind regards, gino
InnerFidelity guy hates bright phones so don't ask him :) or you will end up with dead sounding AKG K701 or pink candy sound of Sennheiser HD650. DT 770 Pro are amazing headphones. The 80 ohm version has a lot of bass and rolled off highs, nice to use on the go with any portable amp or straight from laptop/stereo. 250 ohm version has highs to balance the bass and more refined sound to listen at home or with strong CMOY on the go. DT770 have more soundstage than Shure and are more comfortable.
I have a pair of AKG - 702's I use them on a (cheaper) home AV receiver but they sound really good, the bass is just ever so slightly light for me but is incredibly tight, the midrange has good depth to it aside maybe from the upper end in female vocals (I'm not sure if it's my compression or the actual recording, I use lossless FLAC and vorbis for portable) but they are slightly harsh. As for the treble; Wow. I love how crystal clear the sound of cymbals and high hats are with these cans. $312.
There's a problem with Shure headphones. Some months ago I bought a pair of Shure SRH440 headphones. However, recently I found that during studio monitoring, whist singing, my jaw movement was causing the plastic hinges to creak a little, enough to be picked up by the microphone. Unfortunately the SRH840 has the same hinge design. Shure promote these as studio headphones but their plastic design is a big fail that makes them unsuitable for this purpose.
Great review/info! But Tyll, which Beyer headphone would you then recommend for portable use? Personally I'm not a fan of the smaller ones like the P51 or the 1450. I much prefer the bigger and more open sound stages of the bigger Beyer headphones. (I have a pair of DT770 32 Ohm edition at the moment.)
Hi Tyll, I am going to purchase a beyerdynamic product soon and I was wondering which phone, out of the dt770, dt880, dt990, and the pro versions of all three headphones. I am looking for a headphone that I could use for portable use but also at home high quality listening. Great Vid, keep it up!
@t3hsniper Actually, it's the low impedance cans that draw more current and if inefficient will lower battery life. Really it's more complicated than I can post in this little box, but 250 Ohm will be fine, though it's possible it won't be loud enough for you.
@DJHiso The Sennheiser HD 650 --- but it's a bit soft sounding so you might mix in too much highs if you're not careful. The Denon AH-D2000 --- but it's too bright, so you might mix soft. Sennheiser Amperior is pretty neutral; it might be uncomfortable for long sessions, but it's got the best isolation of all above.
Wouldn't the 250 ohm be a bit high for a pmp? By that I mean wouldn't you need to increase the volume by a fair amount to be able to drive it well enough? Therefore using the battery up faster. Nice video by the way. I had to use it to explain to someone who had impedance completely backwards, who claimed another reviewer was the one who had it backwards.
Seeing as these are "semi-open" how much sound escapes while listening at moderate levels? I'm wondering if they would be quiet enough for listening to in the silent areas of my university library.
quick questions: Which headphones are the best for music production in different price ranges (100€ to 500€ and 500€ to 1000€)? Also, would different headphones be used for different music styles when in production? Thank you, you have awesome reviews!
@@monsterjazzlicks well thats hard to picture bcs plenty loud can mean different things to different people. For example i like to listen to music pretty loud, and the 250Ω sounded pretty weak on my phone.
@InnerFidelity Hey, Tyll, I'm considering the Shure SRH840, what are your thoughts on them? Is there something better under $150? I love your videos, BTW. Cheers.
i have 2 quick question? do the sennheiser 598 need a headphone amp if i use them with an ipod? and does a headphone amp make a headphone louder and improve the clarity or does it just make them louder?
Hi, thanks for the review, would you recommend a 880 or the pro version with 250ohms ? i just regularly use it at home to listen some simple music. Thanks
Hi, Can I ask whether i should get the DT 700 Pro 80ohm or the 250ohm version? I will be using the headphone mostly on my Iphone and Macbook pro and im considering a headphone amplifier in the future. Which 1 should i get ?
@aeriescannonfodder I checked InnerFidelity website. I don't see him recommending really anything but Stax and orthos. Those headphones around 500 dollars don't seem to be in his realm.
@InnerFidelity thanks, but I was also thinking about the Beyerdynamic DT880 but Sennheiser wins for me now, again thanks and very good review of beats by dr.dre solo :-)
i need help im a drummer and i was wondering what would be the best headphones for a drummer to use please answer ive tried beats by dre and they werent good at all =(
Hi :D really great video and explanation, thanks a lot for this :) Which one do you recommand with a Cowon j3 ? Do I need an amp with ? ( sorry Im a newb -- ) thanks :D
Thanks a lot for your answer mate! And in therm of isolation ? Does they really really sucks, for example on a train or a bus ? ( Just for info , I got my Audio Technica ath m 50 for that use )
please help me i will begin buy my setup audiophile and i am not a expert audiophile and you can help me i want a headphone in the 350-500 dollar range and i will use a bravo v3 and dac Musiland Monitor 03, i like the beyerdinamic dt 990 pro 250 ohms they work well with this setup?the Musiland Monitor 03 can support this headphone without the bravo v3 ?
i'have booth. the sound is not the same ! the 600ohm is more neutral ... but your hear more clarty on the 250ohm. more sub bass on the 600ohm. more 6kHz pike on the 250ohm ..... stereo is the same.
Does any one know if a Focusrite 6i6 can power the 250ohms headphone for a reasonably loud listening (for mixing). The focusrite 6i6 manual pdf is online and give some info on the headphone output but i know nothing of this kind of thing.
I currently have the K550 and I'm planning to sell them to fund the DT880. Even though I only auditioned the DT880 for about an hour, they have a similar sound signature and the only real differences I could find were that the AKG K550 looks a lot better and the DT880 fits my giant ears better. They're both great, get the K550 if you need sealed headphones.
i currently am interested in the dt880's and am planning on getting em though he says 250 would suffice for general use i fear that i might regret it and want the 600 ohm and am willing to look into amp's
oh my god are you telling me that i should change my order of the T5p in favour of the T1p? Please help me before i end up waisting a great deal of money ! i trust your opinion..
![เปิด อาณาจักร หมื่นล้าน "สาระตั้ม" l [Nickynachat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3XE0nPF4YkQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks David Gilmour!
Lmao first thing I thought too. He does look a lot like him.
dang this is 10 years tomorrow
I was auditioning the DT880 600ohm at a headphone store today, they're right at the limit of what the E17 can drive well. With the E09k (also at the store), they're pretty great.
DT880/990/770 are unique sounding headphones, you must listen to them to find out if you like their meaty sound.
Really enjoyed your video and full detailed review, as well as the explanation, of impedance levels in general and with regards to the DT 880's. You've explained everything so well in your written review that I finally understand the concept of impedance and ohms now. While I had some knowledge b4, it wasn't totally clear so thanks!
may not be quiet enough for silent library unless you turn it way down (as you should - you're in a library lol) . wearing these without music you can hear everything, just muffled. so they contain very little sound (in or out). but that is the design; they are super super comfortable and sound very neutral and accurate
your review helped me a lot as i was confused about different ohms and whatnot. Thank you!
I ended up getting the DT770 Pro 250ohm for use at school and I'm saving up for something like the Audeze LCD2 or Senn HD800 to use at home. Excited for that!
2011, iPod touch... wowsers. I'm glad things have gotten a bit better these days.
Portable devices and phones these days can very easily handle the 32 Ohm version.
Generally anything up to about 50 Ohms or so, apparently.
Exactly. I love to listen to my DT880 Edition 32 ohm on my notebook WITHOUT any dac/amp stuff and it sounds amazing (mostly classical music and film music)! There is nothing wrong with 32 ohm, really nothing. Even his high praised Focal Clear has an impeadence of only 55 ohm and that wasn´t a problem for him.
I love how he describes stuff. This headphone is confused and this one has a good sense of air.. lol..
500$ 2011. they're around 100$ now!!!! Gonna try the 600 Ohm
Love your videos, I can’t seem to find you reviewing the dt770 pro. If you haven’t could you do one?
He doesn't like Beyerdynamic...these cans are amazing for checking mixdowns in the studio. Specifically, the 250ohm version. The 600ohm is for listening to these at home on a high powered tube amp while the 250ohm are for studio mixing and mastering. The 32ohm versions are just an option for everyone else.
are you david gilmour brother :D
Hi! Thanks for all your informative videos. I am thinking about getting the DT880 600 ohm version. Would the headphone amp (600 ohm) on a Soundblaster ZxR soundcard be able to drive them?
I know Im late to this reply, but this combination is exactly what I have. The dt880 600 ohm and a Soundblaster ZxR. Yes, the card will drive the headphones with a considerably loud volume. Not a crazy volume, but it just hits a very usable volume when max out. I find it falls short the moment you want to pump it up to a crazy boost like when you feel like you want that kind of power every now and then. For moderate listening it's ok, but for sure you'll need a dedicated amp if you want to push the cans to their potential
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the very valuable review.
In particular i have a question about the mentioned "damping factor"
The higher the better ? i tend to think so because this should allow for a better control of the driver diaphragm movement. Can i go on with this belief ?
Thanks a lot again. Kind regards, gino
InnerFidelity guy hates bright phones so don't ask him :) or you will end up with dead sounding AKG K701 or pink candy sound of Sennheiser HD650. DT 770 Pro are amazing headphones. The 80 ohm version has a lot of bass and rolled off highs, nice to use on the go with any portable amp or straight from laptop/stereo. 250 ohm version has highs to balance the bass and more refined sound to listen at home or with strong CMOY on the go. DT770 have more soundstage than Shure and are more comfortable.
Funny thing is, the blue one is actually the 600 ohm headphone.
@AudiophiIic Yes, you just described Sennhesier HD5x8 and HD6x0 series.
What's damping factor and what does it do?
I have the 250 ohms for my 120 watt per channel receiver. sounds great at least for me..
And that´s the most important thing!
I have a pair of AKG - 702's I use them on a (cheaper) home AV receiver but they sound really good, the bass is just ever so slightly light for me but is incredibly tight, the midrange has good depth to it aside maybe from the upper end in female vocals (I'm not sure if it's my compression or the actual recording, I use lossless FLAC and vorbis for portable) but they are slightly harsh. As for the treble; Wow. I love how crystal clear the sound of cymbals and high hats are with these cans. $312.
i dont understand why they didnt make a damn 64 or 80ohm version
There's a problem with Shure headphones. Some months ago I bought a pair of Shure SRH440 headphones. However, recently I found that during studio monitoring, whist singing, my jaw movement was causing the plastic hinges to creak a little, enough to be picked up by the microphone. Unfortunately the SRH840 has the same hinge design. Shure promote these as studio headphones but their plastic design is a big fail that makes them unsuitable for this purpose.
Great review/info! But Tyll, which Beyer headphone would you then recommend for portable use? Personally I'm not a fan of the smaller ones like the P51 or the 1450. I much prefer the bigger and more open sound stages of the bigger Beyer headphones. (I have a pair of DT770 32 Ohm edition at the moment.)
Hi Tyll, I am going to purchase a beyerdynamic product soon and I was wondering which phone, out of the dt770, dt880, dt990, and the pro versions of all three headphones. I am looking for a headphone that I could use for portable use but also at home high quality listening. Great Vid, keep it up!
@t3hsniper Actually, it's the low impedance cans that draw more current and if inefficient will lower battery life. Really it's more complicated than I can post in this little box, but 250 Ohm will be fine, though it's possible it won't be loud enough for you.
Does a 600 ohm headphone sound better than a
I do miss your review/professionality :(
@DJHiso The Sennheiser HD 650 --- but it's a bit soft sounding so you might mix in too much highs if you're not careful. The Denon AH-D2000 --- but it's too bright, so you might mix soft. Sennheiser Amperior is pretty neutral; it might be uncomfortable for long sessions, but it's got the best isolation of all above.
Wouldn't the 250 ohm be a bit high for a pmp? By that I mean wouldn't you need to increase the volume by a fair amount to be able to drive it well enough? Therefore using the battery up faster.
Nice video by the way. I had to use it to explain to someone who had impedance completely backwards, who claimed another reviewer was the one who had it backwards.
which BD headphones compare to the beyerdynamic DT550 from the 1980's thank you
Seeing as these are "semi-open" how much sound escapes while listening at moderate levels? I'm wondering if they would be quiet enough for listening to in the silent areas of my university library.
quick questions:
Which headphones are the best for music production in different price ranges (100€ to 500€ and 500€ to 1000€)?
Also, would different headphones be used for different music styles when in production?
Thank you, you have awesome reviews!
Great video cheers. i am looking to buy DT880 PRO (250 Ohm).
What i don't understand is do i need a headphone amp ???
Cheers.
yes
@@oliverszk OSx - Hi, I bought a pair! Not sure how many Ohms though. But they don't require an amp.
@@monsterjazzlicks if you plug them in your phone and blast them on full volume are they really loud?
@@NoName-mc7bh I use them with my Sony mp3 Walkman and Amazon Fire tablet. They are plenty loud.
@@monsterjazzlicks well thats hard to picture bcs plenty loud can mean different things to different people. For example i like to listen to music pretty loud, and the 250Ω sounded pretty weak on my phone.
Hlo sir.
Which pair better for mixing -
Dt 880 250 ohm or dt 880 600 ohm ?? Plz reply.
looks like a video from 1992
Smells like one too.
You're an asshole.
I get the differences between these headphones but what's the difference between these and the pro's
Are these good for monitoring? I don't want any enhancements like bass amplified, etc.
to you which closed over ear headphone(under$300) sounds best
should i get the beyerdynamic 880 or something else in the price range? main use for rap
The Beyer dt880 600 ohm or Denon Ah-d2000? I lisent most to rock(Porcupine Tree) and some times classical. cheers!
I liked your video a lot, I was looking for more opinions on the 3 DT 880 models, maybe just try to say um and ah a little less.
i've always stopped short of posting that. He reminds me of the gilmour from the robert wyatt concert
@InnerFidelity Hey, Tyll, I'm considering the Shure SRH840, what are your thoughts on them? Is there something better under $150? I love your videos, BTW. Cheers.
Why do I have a feeling that you don't like Beyer 'phones..
By the way, all your vids are great, very helpful.
which do you prefer
beyerdynamic dt 770 pro or AKG q701
Thanks,very useful advice.I nearly made a terrible mistake.
Which Headphone ist better ? Beyerdynamic DT880 or the Sennheiser HD650. I Watch only Movies with the Headphones ... Please help
I also like the dt880 250 ohm but are they going to perform good enough plugged into a laptop without the amp?
Are you going to review the T70p from Beyer ? What do you think of these?
Thanks.
how do the compare to the HD600, which is easier to drive?
and the dt 990 models?what the diferences beetwen they?
What headphones would you recommend for entertainment purposes in a $250-$320 budget?
Sir, what are your thoughts between DT880 and Sennheisher Momentums?
the pros have a higher contact pressure and a spiral cable. the drivers are the same as far as i know.
i have 2 quick question? do the sennheiser 598 need a headphone amp if i use them with an ipod? and does a headphone amp make a headphone louder and improve the clarity or does it just make them louder?
can the 250 ohm be used with a portable amp to get a better sound in an iPod
Hi, thanks for the review, would you recommend a 880 or the pro version with 250ohms ? i just regularly use it at home to listen some simple music. Thanks
They probably would but might be a bit quiet
What about the DT770? Are they good for computer without an amp?
Hi, Can I ask whether i should get the DT 700 Pro 80ohm or the 250ohm version? I will be using the headphone mostly on my Iphone and Macbook pro and im considering a headphone amplifier in the future. Which 1 should i get ?
Hey just wondering which headphones would you recommend I get between the DT880, Shure SRH940, Sennheiser HD598 or HD650?
@aeriescannonfodder I checked InnerFidelity website. I don't see him recommending really anything but Stax and orthos. Those headphones around 500 dollars don't seem to be in his realm.
no not yet ill check them out cause I've listened to the beats and i just want the best sound if I'm gonna pay all that money
Hi, can you make a review on DT990 250ohm and T90.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers!
I am discouraged from these being the next headphone to add to my collection after seeing his reaction on the sound of the 880s
Okey , thanks a lot for all theese explanations :D !
Would the fiio e6/e7/e11 power these headphones and the Beyerdynamic St 770s?
How does the low impedance version sound with an amplifier?
DO answer.
Anak1ng Not sure if buying. My AKG K240S sound weak (not the same as quiet) and lacking without an amplifier. It's not about volume, but detail.
will you ever do a review on t1?
do you use an amp with those headphones?
@InnerFidelity thanks, but I was also thinking about the Beyerdynamic DT880 but Sennheiser wins for me now, again thanks and very good review of beats by dr.dre solo :-)
DT880 or DT990 ???
i need help im a drummer and i was wondering what would be the best headphones for a drummer to use please answer ive tried beats by dre and they werent good at all =(
Hi :D really great video and explanation, thanks a lot for this :)
Which one do you recommand with a Cowon j3 ? Do I need an amp with ?
( sorry Im a newb -- ) thanks :D
OK I got a question, what headphones would you recommend me for studio use(professional)
the price up to 300£. Thanks
@AnalogLooney Thank you! My understanding now is that you are correct. The principle remains the same, however, as you point out.
Thanks a lot for your answer mate! And in therm of isolation ? Does they really really sucks, for example on a train or a bus ? ( Just for info , I got my Audio Technica ath m 50 for that use )
What kind of sound card this needs especially for the 250ohms version, for under $100?
any fiio
yes but you might need a portable amp such as a fiioe17 to drive them better
Can you please do a review of the Beyer DT-250 250ohm version?
Somebody i just want to know what direction to go for bass and clear sound doesn't have to be perfect audiophile whatever i listen to rap hip hop r&b
please help me i will begin buy my setup audiophile and i am not a expert audiophile and you can help me i want a headphone in the 350-500 dollar range and i will use a bravo v3 and dac Musiland Monitor 03, i like the beyerdinamic dt 990 pro 250 ohms they work well with this setup?the Musiland Monitor 03 can support this headphone without the bravo v3 ?
Hi: what are the physical differences between the 250 and 600 ohm versions?
Mr. Link nothing, just the ohm. until you get the pro or premium
i'have booth. the sound is not the same ! the 600ohm is more neutral ... but your hear more clarty on the 250ohm. more sub bass on the 600ohm. more 6kHz pike on the 250ohm ..... stereo is the same.
Can the 250 ohm on an iPhone get louder than the 32
32ohm = more loudness/volume 250ohm = more sound quality (less volume)
@InnerFidelity and what do you think about HD700 Sennheiser?
hey Tyll! whats a good open headphone for use without an amp with a portable device or a computer? thanks!
I have 250ohm version for sale, used few months.
The pricing on these confuses me a lot, the dt.779 and 990's are a lot cheaper, 145€ from germany, these are 223€
do the 250s with an amp on your iphone work well?
Does any one know if a Focusrite 6i6 can power the 250ohms headphone for a reasonably loud listening (for mixing). The focusrite 6i6 manual pdf is online and give some info on the headphone output but i know nothing of this kind of thing.
@Bentech1999 I'd take the 600 or 650
I currently have the K550 and I'm planning to sell them to fund the DT880. Even though I only auditioned the DT880 for about an hour, they have a similar sound signature and the only real differences I could find were that the AKG K550 looks a lot better and the DT880 fits my giant ears better. They're both great, get the K550 if you need sealed headphones.
@aeriescannonfodder ty whats there price range?
DT880 is a no brainer honestly, though keep in mind it is semi-open and is significantly harder to drive.
i currently am interested in the dt880's and am planning on getting em though he says 250 would suffice for general use i fear that i might regret it and want the 600 ohm
and am willing to look into amp's
oh my god are you telling me that i should change my order of the T5p in favour of the T1p?
Please help me before i end up waisting a great deal of money !
i trust your opinion..
@TDMusicSounds I like the Shure SRH840 quite a bit better.
@LED22ZEPPELIN I'd probably pick the 600.
better try the 990 (pro) @250ohms should be just fine...