Got the new black limited ones in 250 ohms.. love it for my receiver.. got an extension for sitting on my couch 10 feet away.. they are perfect for what I need..
Really enjoy hearing what you think about the sound of the phones. You might include whether they are less or more detailed in the mids/highs. You could possibly include what the specifications are that come with the phone (which for the most part are kind of meaningless below 25 Hz or above 15kHz simply because most instruments have little output beyond those ranges). You could tell the type of music you used in the review and what stood out as good or bad...nice brush sound on cymbals or bad bass guitar..whatever. Overall you are quite enjoyable to watch and I like your reviews. Thank you for putting in all the effort you do~ it is much appreciated.
I definitely prefer having the full review in video format. I already read lots of audio stuff -- Stereophile, The Absolute Sound, Tone Audio, etc. -- and written reviews are all over the web. But there are relatively few people making thoughtful and honest video reviews of audio products. I really enjoy your videos because you actually know what you're talking about and your descriptions of build quality, comfort, and sound are more thorough than most.
I've been using the DT990 pro for months now and I love them! My brain has gotten used to the energetic treble and I'm not bothered by it anymore. Super comfy and super detailed :)
Buy some Linsoul ZS10 IEMs and you'll forget all about this nonsense. And the treble is spectacular, sparkling, clear, and NOT tinny or shouty or metallic.
Absolutely do written if you want to go more into detail (which in terms of video time could be 'too long' for some people for all I know), but definitely do NOT stop making video reviews and comparisons! They are for the more 'average Joe' like me and I enjoy yours a lot. They show enthusiasm and you usually hit all the check marks for what to goes in pros and cons and then some, like explaining terms the more audiophiles already are deeply into. So keep 'em coming Lachlan! :D
Nice review as ever. I'd agree that the DT880s, even the 32 Ohm versions really need a separate amp to drive them, your average smartphone or tablet does not have sufficient power to generate adequate volumes, they are after all below 100dB / mW sensitivity! Beyer do a rather nice battery powered DAC/amp, the A200p which is about as low as you'd want to go, given the price and potential performance of the 880s. There are other options from Fiio and others such as the HiFiM8 depending on how important size / power / ££ is to you.
Please keep your vids the way they are. I like the whole video to contain your thoughts and opinions. Too many people have videos of their unboxing then leave out their impressions of the headphone or their mini review. Your channel is unique in that everything you cover, covers well....everything! Keep it up Lachlan
please stick with the regular format. I love to hear your take on sound signatures. Also really enjoyed the one take video your doibg because it shows off more of your personality
Keep it video. There are tons of reviews for a single headphone on forums but mabey only a couple for video. Only a few headfiers actually make videos and i really enjoy them
I really like your video reviews because I'm able to see the emotion behind your words so we can see if you are excited or not about your headphone review. Even if a headphone has a good sound stage or crisp or smooth levels it really means nothing unless you know how it made you feel to listen to them, but I find myself watching a lot of headphones reviews as opposed to reading them mostly because I can listen to them while I'm working instead of putting everything on hold to read one.
I like watching you review because you actually listen to it and gives your opinion... and compare it and you actually talk about what matters like comfort, sound signature. unboxing is so common, everyone can read the specification. keep up the good work bro! I even link your videos on forums bro! -balancebox
Hey Lachlan, please keep the current format! Ever since I bought the ATH-M50, I don't really bother with reading headphone reviews but I love watching your videos because they're interesting and you present all of the info that I want to know about the headphone. Keep up the great work!!!
I prefer your current format. I think written companion in the description would be fine, but I think people will have a better understanding of the sound characteristics through video.
So I bought both K702 and these to check them out. I like flat phones. I slightly prefer the sound quality of the K702. Byt a tiny margain. Pretty much as good sound in these. BUT these seem so much better build, and is much better on my head, the K702's are so big and clunky. I'm pretty sure I'm keeping these, and seinding the K702's back. Both are great though!
You're video reviews are exceptional!! I would encourage to keep doing them by video because it allow the viewer to get a better idea of the passion behind what you are reviewing. This is not to say a follow up summary written review wouldn't be helpful, but there's nothing like hearing the passion. Thanks much! Will
i think that doing reviews this way would satisfy your viewers. Also it also displays your initial feelings of the headphones, what stands out (the boomy bass, the shouty mids etc). I think that you should keep your original cut let it sit a couple of days. and add annotations after if your feelings change, ex you got use to the bass now. This way, maybe our original feelings change over time. I left you message on the facebook regarding the questions you listed. Hope its not too long of a read
And btw, you can do away with comparisons and make that your written content in sites like head-fi.org. links for those comparisons may just be added in your video description. Just a suggestion. Thanks for all the hard work. Good on you mate!
I don't recommend the DT880 if you are sensitive to the XBA-4's treble... they do not really sound alike and the DT880 is even more treble forward. I would try the HD600 or the MA900 for a slightly lighter sound.
I prefer video reviews because I can see how enthusiastic or disappointed the host is about the headphone. Not to mention that I can see the headphone itself, prefer that over images. I also think that the sound should be described in the video. For a detailed analysis of the sound and comparison between headphones I would suggest a proper own website.
Great review! I really like your reviews, and personally I like watching videos, because I can just listen to it and do something else at the same time. It's better for multitasking...and again personally, it's easier for me to listen than read...Expecting more headphone reviews to come!
I'm not that sensitive to treble fatigue and the look of the Sony's does not appeal to me. Also looked up Head Fi and they said the treble was a tad too polite. But thanks for the suggestion!
"Treble... can get fatiguing" - exactly. I like the headphones, especially for the price, but this thing is my main gripe about them. I probably have to equalize them - which I generally don't like to do. Or listen to them quieter. Otherwise great headphones, fantastic build really. Perhaps I'll get used to this treble peek, but I'm sad it's there. I don't need that much boom, so the base is fine with me, even if a bit weaker. I want to hear it, not necessarily feel it, so bass is fine, mids are great. Trebles are just... too great. For 150 Eur still fantastic phones.
I total agree with you. The ma900 does not sound relaxed or lay back. especially when I compare with the MDR F1. which is more relaxed sound and more comfortable.
I think your current style is good enough. I really like to hear/watch your impressions here on youtube. may be you can do some full in depth reviews/comparisons after your video impressions on head-fi or your own website,like you did in ATH-AD900X vs ATH-AD1000X vs MDR-MA900 on head-fi .. so let me ask you the ultimate question, do you personally prefer MA900 over DT880? I know this is a subjective question but really like know which one you prefer...?
Nobody has time to read a 10page paragraph about sound quality on headphones. Please keep doing video reviews on headphones they are great. Two thumbs up
Hi Lachlan, about your question at the end. Alot of people are visual learners and listening is faster than reading text. That's why I think your videos are so useful. I do want to emphasize on 'alot of people', most people I know prefer watching than reading. With that being said, knowing you're passionate about ur headphones and would like to explain more in depth, you can always do the writing for your own satisfaction. The people who are super interested in the specific headphone can then read your extended-review in text form. But I don't think it's necessary as you already give plenty of information to the general public through the videos :) But, if you really want to do an extra comparison of sound between the headphones, you can always make the video abit longer and compare it 'at the end' after you say all other basic things :) I would prefer the 2nd one..the video..just because I'm a visual learner myself :) Hope that helped! And thanks for all the videos!
I think I know what you mean, but I think the longwindedness and confusingness seems to be simply a formal requirement, that most reviewers think they have to adhere to. I would include in that the longwinded examination of materials and looks which clutter and fill most videos, and though they may not be irrelevant, are certainly not top-priority (actually don't care who disagrees).
great review. Hey Lachlan, to make an even better video I would suggest close ups on the various parts of the headphone during the review. I like video reviews wayyyyy better than written because in videos you get to see the thing. simple.
If it's not too much to ask; are there any headphones similar to Audio Technica's AMH-AD900x? I want something that has a bit more bass (and warm sound to it), something that can go very well with Ambient Electronica like Tycho as well as Psychedelic Rock, such as Tame Impala, and Indie, such as Neutral Milk Hotel. Bass isn't a major concern but I'm afraid that AD900x's won't cut it. It will be my first pair of expensive headphones (above $100). I wanted something around the $150-$280 range.
Hi Lachlan, great review as usual. Personally, I watch TH-cam videos including yours just before going to bed. Because of that, I find your reviews more accessible and less tedious. That's why I prefer watching your reviews over others like hifiguy for example. I also like his videos but I find reviews to be a lot more interesting than just pure unboxings and/or reveals. Hope that helps.
I'm sort of new in the audiophile business. Currently I have Sennheiser HD 493s and a Fiio Andes E07K portable amp. I am planning to get myself of these DT 880 Pro 250 Ohm headphones. I would like to know if there is anything better within this price range if possible. I mainly listen to Japanese female vocalist such as fripSide, Mami Kawada and LiSA who tend to hit the highs quite often and it fatigues my ears when listening with the HD 439s very much. Thanks in advance!
I think you should pick 4 or 5 standard sound files/songs from TH-cam and use them as comparisons. For example, a reviewer claimed he couldn't hear the piano piece from a song called We Are Young by Fun when he wore Beats by Dre. I suggest a heavy bass song, a classical piece with a lot of flues, strings and cymbals, a vocal piece with a male voice, a vocal piece with a female voice and an action movie scene with lasers and explosions. I think it's more helpful by saying you couldn't hear the snare and cymbals on a particular song or the explosions in this scene sounded like somebody pressing buttons at a soda fountain.
Regarding your question about video review or written reviews I think they are complementary. I like to watch a video review. See the visual aspects of equipment. And your expressions (not only yours, but many people that made video reviews) translate in some feelings about the product, and it is possible to see if exists some real excitement or enjoy about the product. Just after I will read reviews with more technical details and comparisons.
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Newb here: Hi, I bought Sony XB800 two weeks ago, they were just $50 in the Sony's online store and your review said they had too much bass, I don't have an audio amplifier, I use them connected to my Macbook and I feel they have bass but not that much bass, however, yesterday I found an EQ for the mac called 'Boom' and in a low end headphones (Panasonic RP-HJE140, $15) I felt they really boosted the sound, I haven't tried Boom + XB800 yet. My question is, what are your thoughts on digital EQs?
I like watching video far more than reading review. In the video we could see how headphone sits on the head when you use them, you could have a better illustration of the headphone than just the photos.
Is the treble on these similar to that of the sony xba 4 iems, quantity and extension wise? I am familiar with the xba 4 treble and although it is smooth,I find the treble extension on that a little too much that it is somewhat distracting. Deciding between these or the HD600 mainly for female voacals (house music/ mainstream pop/ Kpop :) ). I fear the HD600 would be too laid back for me similar to the HD555/595, but these would just sound like the sony xba 4's.
I've been watching your videos since you've uploaded your first sennheiser momentum reviews I've enjoyed watching your detailed reviews... if you have so much time then you should write a review... but then again it would help to those people who have crappy internet connection, I live in a place where the highest connection speed is about 50 kb/s!!!, so it would help some people...
Hey Lachlan, I just want to say, the one-take video thing is fine. I just want to hear what you say about headphones. I don't really mind the 'high-tech transition' stuff lol
Ok thanks for that, will try and audition the Sony. Btw, have you tried the Monoprice 8320 IEMs? I think you should do a review on these, I wanna see how you compare them to other, more expensive iems. I bought one on ebay for about $20, and imo they sound much more balanced than any $100-$200 iems lol.
Great review, Lachlan! You don't need to cut, you really manage to focus on the essence, even in one take! Why I like video reviews like this? First, I get a better feel of how the headphones are built. Second, the sound of headphones is a highly subjective thing and thus are better presented subjectively. I can better interpret what you're meaning by certain sound descriptions than on a written review, simply by how you're saying it. I plan on buying a DT 880. But I'm unsure if I should go for 32 or 250 Ohms. I will also compare it once more to the DT 990 Pro, which is really a bargain these days. And maybe the Philips Fidelio X1 which I also really liked in my recent comparison session in the stores. Compared to these, Sennheiser HD 598, AKG K 701 and K 242 are out. The HD 600 is on par, but I liked the Beyer sound signature better. I haven't had a chance to listen to the ATH AD 900 or 1000, or to the Sony MA 900, but from what you told, I think I like the Beyers better.
Thanks Velt! I'd go for the 250 ohm :) If you preferred the DT880 over the HD600 I very much doubt you will like the MA900, but you might find the AD1000X interesting.
***** I'm wondering now, what would be the advantage of choosing the 250 ohm version over the lower impedance? Would the 250 ohm version plus amp sound a whole lot better than the 32 ohm version without amp? And thanks for all the video reviews.
Video reviews are the way to go...written reviews can't be as good as watching the reviews,i see that you are going with the video reviews now...good choice
They're good, but I wouldn't use them as a primary headphone. They exceed most alternatives in spaciousness and a certain realistic reverberation, but their clarity is mediocre (grainy and tinny) and they are a bit sharp in the highs. I've plaid Bioshock Infinite with them where they provided the necessary airiness and a grandeur which was quite something, but in most instances I can't listen to them for long, but I don't have them anymore anyway...
Hey, thank you for the video. Do you have an amplifier even conecting the headphones to your reference monitors? I own a pair of Mackie Cr3 and I was wondering if those monitors are enough to drive a 250 ohm headphones. Thank you
Should I consider getting any of the Beyer-dynamic DT series. My headphone right now is the Fidelio x2, Sennhiser HD598, V-moda m100, and I have the Forstex massdrop Thx00. What do you think.
+john lin I wouldn't say that they're an upgrade over what you currently have. Unless you are trying to build a collection I see no real point in investing in the DT 880's, but that's just my opinion! Save up for the next HD600 sale and that would be a worthwhile purchase I think.
Since you like relaxed headphones, have you thought to audition a Sennheiser HD600? Oh, and while the O2 is an excellent amp, if you like warmth, tube amps could take you "there". Anyways, you are probably very informed on those things, but i'd just like to hear your opinion on the HD600, which i have and found to solve all my needs(this is someone who found the MDR 1-R sibilant). Cheers!
I've heard the HD580, HD600 and HD650 quite a few times. I definitely really like them but I've never wanted to own a pair because the Sony MDR-MA900 actually sounds quite similar to the HD600.
Lachlan, I'm going to purchase first pair of cans. I listen to acoustics, oldies, funk, jazz, and and classical with some mainstream pop/rap. I play BF4 frequently. I'm deciding between dt880, ath-a700 or ath m40x., srh440. Thank You in advance for your insight man:)
I would prefer the full review, including sound quality and comparisons to be on the VIDEO. For me, at least, you don't have to spend quite so much time on the build quality. Thanks!
I was pleasantly surprised by these headphones when I heard them. I have a pair of T70Ps that I really dislike as they have absolutely no bass and are way too bright and analytically for my taste. Unfortunately even though they are "Semi-Open" they are still open... People can hear the music and you can hear people... The idea is great but not the best. Have you heard the T770 Pro 32ohm Limited Editions? How would they compare? Anyway I suggest you do the written reviews as well on a site!
Hey Laclan, I have a really important question. I'm looking for a new set of headphones and have narrowed my selection down to three choices. I'm looking at the Audiotechnica ath ad1000x, beyerdynamic dt 880, and the beyerdynamic dt 990. I'm unsure as which one would suit me best and would really appreciate your opinion. I pretty much only listen all styles of rock and I want these for gaming too. I already have a dac/amp to power whichever one I end up choosing. I would really be happy for your opinion and keep up the great the videos!
Joey Sendzik The DT880 is probably the most balanced of all three. The AD1000X has great female vocals but and a airy sound but it doesn't have a great deal of bass if that's important. The DT990 can get a little ear piercing because of its V-shaped sound and strong treble emphasis. The DT880 is less extreme than both.
+laclanlikesathing Thanks for the feed back! And I've never used a semi open set of headphones like the 880's and I was looking for an open set. Does that mean I should get the audiotechnica headphones I was talking about or is there little difference between open and semi open designs?
Wich is better, the 770 or the 880 pro version? how much sound leak does it has? There is difference in the quality of the sound between the 32 Ohm and the 250 Ohm version? Could you please do a sound leake test in the 880 pro? (Maybe maybe... :P) Please help me guys! PD: Srry for my bad english.
they are not only different price points, they are for completely different uses. The DT770 is not portable. That said I do like the sound and comfort more than the M50x.
okay next you need to review: audeze lcd-xc lcd-3- lcd-x, stax sr-007 sr-009, sennheiser hd600 hd650 hd700 hd800, abyss ab-1266, hifiman he-6 he-500 he-560 he400i and oppo pm-1 pm-2, since you are doing beyer.. you might as well get a t1. (don't forget to buy the proper amps and dacs for all of those)
Would these be good for electronic, chill, hip hop and some jazz? It seems like most people when reviewing the headphone listen to stuff like vocalists and classical.
Man, I just put the Linsoul ZS10 IEMs up against my Fostex TH7s and Pioneer X7 DJ pro headphones: the Linsouls sound 10000x better than either of the over the ear headphones. This is a sad reflection on headphones. I mean they fucking BLOW THEM BOTH AWAY. In every category. I may never buy headphones again. And the Linsouls only cost $55 US. Have you reviewed the Linsoul Tapes electrostatic hybrid IEMs yet? I cannot wait to hear those. I'm buying them sight unseen. So many headphones I audition either lack bass, are too tinny, shouty, or have a brash high end. Or have bass but no refinement. It really is amazing. The Linsouls however sound like the best bookshelf speakers you've ever heard, coupled with the best subwoofer you've ever heard. I'd stake my fucking life on it.
Hello Laclan, I have a question. I really like bright sounding headphones. How would these compare to the AKG K550 and the MSR7 or M70x? Which would you recommend more, when knowing I really like bright sounding headphones with lots of treble?
I'm afraid I haven't heard them side by side and no longer own the K550. They should be quite different in character. But honestly I would choose between them first based on usage. The K550 is really too large to use outside the house. The M70x maybe isn't as comfortable for long term home use. So the decision is easier. If you want something quite bright sounding, also look at open Audio Technica cans.
is the headband metal? i heard they fit tight and you have to bend them for a while, which would be okay as long as it is metal. The audio technica ad700 fit awesome, but i want more bass
Can I run these with the Blue Yeti. Here is the stats for the amplifier on the unit: Headphone Amplifier Impedance:16 ohms Power Output (RMS): 130 mW THD: 0.009% Frequency Response: 15 Hz - 22 kHz Signal to Noise: 100dB Cheers
+Drakthiron I did it. Sounds absolutely wonderful. I had some bzz sound, but installing Equalizer APO and dampening the DB by -6 removed it completely. They sound freaking awesome, nice to see the bzz sound go away with high notes. :) Equalizer apo = my hero!! Still have enough juice to power them with the build in amp of my yeti. I tried SMSL SD793-II dac/amp. But it sound too harsh with these neutral headphones, I actually prefer my Yeti dampening the harshness. Weird I enjoy Yeti dac/amp more then a dedicated one. ^^
Please stick with the videos. It's such a breath of fresh air. As another guy said, there's plenty to read. I always keep your videos for bed time viewing. You're clued in to the hobby, you know what you're talking about. Keep it up! ~Mark
Hello Laclan, i'm in the market for a pair of open headphone for comfort, sound stage, and less fatigue (i'm using M50). how would you compare AD900x to DT880? thanks.
Bryan Yong The DT880 may be just as fatiguing as the M50 because of the treble. The AD900X is safer. You could also consider the Sennheiser HD650 or the Sony MDR-MA900; those are pretty smooth and will sound bassier than the AD900X - which you might be more used to coming from the M50.
Got the new black limited ones in 250 ohms.. love it for my receiver.. got an extension for sitting on my couch 10 feet away.. they are perfect for what I need..
Really enjoy hearing what you think about the sound of the phones. You might include whether they are less or more detailed in the mids/highs. You could possibly include what the specifications are that come with the phone (which for the most part are kind of meaningless below 25 Hz or above 15kHz simply because most instruments have little output beyond those ranges). You could tell the type of music you used in the review and what stood out as good or bad...nice brush sound on cymbals or bad bass guitar..whatever. Overall you are quite enjoyable to watch and I like your reviews. Thank you for putting in all the effort you do~ it is much appreciated.
I definitely prefer having the full review in video format. I already read lots of audio stuff -- Stereophile, The Absolute Sound, Tone Audio, etc. -- and written reviews are all over the web. But there are relatively few people making thoughtful and honest video reviews of audio products. I really enjoy your videos because you actually know what you're talking about and your descriptions of build quality, comfort, and sound are more thorough than most.
I've been using the DT990 pro for months now and I love them! My brain has gotten used to the energetic treble and I'm not bothered by it anymore. Super comfy and super detailed :)
Buy some Linsoul ZS10 IEMs and you'll forget all about this nonsense. And the treble is spectacular, sparkling, clear, and NOT tinny or shouty or metallic.
Absolutely do written if you want to go more into detail (which in terms of video time could be 'too long' for some people for all I know), but definitely do NOT stop making video reviews and comparisons! They are for the more 'average Joe' like me and I enjoy yours a lot. They show enthusiasm and you usually hit all the check marks for what to goes in pros and cons and then some, like explaining terms the more audiophiles already are deeply into. So keep 'em coming Lachlan! :D
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Nice review as ever. I'd agree that the DT880s, even the 32 Ohm versions really need a separate amp to drive them, your average smartphone or tablet does not have sufficient power to generate adequate volumes, they are after all below 100dB / mW sensitivity! Beyer do a rather nice battery powered DAC/amp, the A200p which is about as low as you'd want to go, given the price and potential performance of the 880s. There are other options from Fiio and others such as the HiFiM8 depending on how important size / power / ££ is to you.
good video and good review. I am just wondering..what does "warm" mean in terms of sound? less highs and more bass?
Please keep your vids the way they are. I like the whole video to contain your thoughts and opinions. Too many people have videos of their unboxing then leave out their impressions of the headphone or their mini review. Your channel is unique in that everything you cover, covers well....everything! Keep it up Lachlan
please stick with the regular format. I love to hear your take on sound signatures. Also really enjoyed the one take video your doibg because it shows off more of your personality
After some preliminaries, the review of this actual headphone begins at 2:08
Thanks for an informative review!
Keep it video. There are tons of reviews for a single headphone on forums but mabey only a couple for video. Only a few headfiers actually make videos and i really enjoy them
I really like your video reviews because I'm able to see the emotion behind your words so we can see if you are excited or not about your headphone review. Even if a headphone has a good sound stage or crisp or smooth levels it really means nothing unless you know how it made you feel to listen to them, but I find myself watching a lot of headphones reviews as opposed to reading them mostly because I can listen to them while I'm working instead of putting everything on hold to read one.
I like watching you review because you actually listen to it and gives your opinion... and compare it and you actually talk about what matters like comfort, sound signature. unboxing is so common, everyone can read the specification. keep up the good work bro! I even link your videos on forums bro!
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Hey Lachlan, please keep the current format! Ever since I bought the ATH-M50, I don't really bother with reading headphone reviews but I love watching your videos because they're interesting and you present all of the info that I want to know about the headphone. Keep up the great work!!!
Nice. I got 880pro and 990pro. They're very clear well balanced headphones. Amp. as same as yours O2 but the black colour. DAC is HUD-mx2
I prefer your current format. I think written companion in the description would be fine, but I think people will have a better understanding of the sound characteristics through video.
So I bought both K702 and these to check them out. I like flat phones.
I slightly prefer the sound quality of the K702. Byt a tiny margain. Pretty much as good sound in these. BUT these seem so much better build, and is much better on my head, the K702's are so big and clunky. I'm pretty sure I'm keeping these, and seinding the K702's back. Both are great though!
I love video reviews, keep it up!!
You're video reviews are exceptional!! I would encourage to keep doing them by video because it allow the viewer to get a better idea of the passion behind what you are reviewing. This is not to say a follow up summary written review wouldn't be helpful, but there's nothing like hearing the passion.
Thanks much!
Will
Completing the video in one take is no boast. Editing is a worth while occupation.
Don't get me wrong, I love editing. It's just that I found myself using the chance to do over as a crutch. Nowadays I'm doing better :)
Brilliant, you keep making videos and I'll keep watching them! :P
i think that doing reviews this way would satisfy your viewers. Also it also displays your initial feelings of the headphones, what stands out (the boomy bass, the shouty mids etc). I think that you should keep your original cut let it sit a couple of days. and add annotations after if your feelings change, ex you got use to the bass now. This way, maybe our original feelings change over time. I left you message on the facebook regarding the questions you listed. Hope its not too long of a read
And btw, you can do away with comparisons and make that your written content in sites like head-fi.org. links for those comparisons may just be added in your video description. Just a suggestion. Thanks for all the hard work. Good on you mate!
I don't recommend the DT880 if you are sensitive to the XBA-4's treble... they do not really sound alike and the DT880 is even more treble forward. I would try the HD600 or the MA900 for a slightly lighter sound.
I prefer video reviews because I can see how enthusiastic or disappointed the host is about the headphone. Not to mention that I can see the headphone itself, prefer that over images. I also think that the sound should be described in the video. For a detailed analysis of the sound and comparison between headphones I would suggest a proper own website.
Great review! I really like your reviews, and personally I like watching videos, because I can just listen to it and do something else at the same time. It's better for multitasking...and again personally, it's easier for me to listen than read...Expecting more headphone reviews to come!
Your current setup is great too, so you can go either way and still do good.
I'm not that sensitive to treble fatigue and the look of the Sony's does not appeal to me. Also looked up Head Fi and they said the treble was a tad too polite. But thanks for the suggestion!
I think you should go over the physical qualities in videos and describe the sound and make comparisons in written form.
"Treble... can get fatiguing" - exactly. I like the headphones, especially for the price, but this thing is my main gripe about them. I probably have to equalize them - which I generally don't like to do. Or listen to them quieter. Otherwise great headphones, fantastic build really. Perhaps I'll get used to this treble peek, but I'm sad it's there. I don't need that much boom, so the base is fine with me, even if a bit weaker. I want to hear it, not necessarily feel it, so bass is fine, mids are great. Trebles are just... too great. For 150 Eur still fantastic phones.
I total agree with you. The ma900 does not sound relaxed or lay back. especially when I compare with the MDR F1. which is more relaxed sound and more comfortable.
I think your current style is good enough. I really like to hear/watch your impressions here on youtube. may be you can do some full in depth reviews/comparisons after your video impressions on head-fi or your own website,like you did in ATH-AD900X vs ATH-AD1000X vs MDR-MA900 on head-fi .. so let me ask you the ultimate question, do you personally prefer MA900 over DT880? I know this is a subjective question but really like know which one you prefer...?
great work and very good reviews. helped me very much.thank you.
Nobody has time to read a 10page paragraph about sound quality on headphones. Please keep doing video reviews on headphones they are great. Two thumbs up
Hi Lachlan,
about your question at the end.
Alot of people are visual learners and listening is faster than reading text. That's why I think your videos are so useful. I do want to emphasize on 'alot of people', most people I know prefer watching than reading.
With that being said, knowing you're passionate about ur headphones and would like to explain more in depth, you can always do the writing for your own satisfaction. The people who are super interested in the specific headphone can then read your extended-review in text form.
But I don't think it's necessary as you already give plenty of information to the general public through the videos :)
But, if you really want to do an extra comparison of sound between the headphones, you can always make the video abit longer and compare it 'at the end' after you say all other basic things :)
I would prefer the 2nd one..the video..just because I'm a visual learner myself :)
Hope that helped!
And thanks for all the videos!
+leafsoul4gone Hey yumi, question. You still use this youtube account? reply lemme know.
- Tenzonshi :)
I think I know what you mean, but I think the longwindedness and confusingness seems to be simply a formal requirement, that most reviewers think they have to adhere to. I would include in that the longwinded examination of materials and looks which clutter and fill most videos, and though they may not be irrelevant, are certainly not top-priority (actually don't care who disagrees).
I age in 100% with Luca. Do overall impression in wideo review and detailed review, with comparison to other headphones in text review.
great review. Hey Lachlan, to make an even better video I would suggest close ups on the various parts of the headphone during the review. I like video reviews wayyyyy better than written because in videos you get to see the thing. simple.
Yep, I've begun doing that in my newer videos. Thanks for the input though!
If it's not too much to ask; are there any headphones similar to Audio Technica's AMH-AD900x? I want something that has a bit more bass (and warm sound to it), something that can go very well with Ambient Electronica like Tycho as well as Psychedelic Rock, such as Tame Impala, and Indie, such as Neutral Milk Hotel. Bass isn't a major concern but I'm afraid that AD900x's won't cut it. It will be my first pair of expensive headphones (above $100). I wanted something around the $150-$280 range.
Please leave the format the way it is! I watch your videos exclusively on my Xbox, and love hearing your thoughts on sound quality.
Ive just bought a G4ME One of sennheiser how would you compare that with these Beyerdynamic DT880 wich one would be soundwise better ?
Hi Lachlan, great review as usual. Personally, I watch TH-cam videos including yours just before going to bed. Because of that, I find your reviews more accessible and less tedious. That's why I prefer watching your reviews over others like hifiguy for example. I also like his videos but I find reviews to be a lot more interesting than just pure unboxings and/or reveals. Hope that helps.
I wonder if this lasted til this day, would you consider doing an update?
Could you please review or do first impressions of the Bang and Olufsen beoplay h6?
I'm sort of new in the audiophile business. Currently I have Sennheiser HD 493s and a Fiio Andes E07K portable amp. I am planning to get myself of these DT 880 Pro 250 Ohm headphones. I would like to know if there is anything better within this price range if possible. I mainly listen to Japanese female vocalist such as fripSide, Mami Kawada and LiSA who tend to hit the highs quite often and it fatigues my ears when listening with the HD 439s very much. Thanks in advance!
I really hope that you will get to try the Audeze LCD-2 :) They are perfectly natural in their sound.
I think you should pick 4 or 5 standard sound files/songs from TH-cam and use them as comparisons. For example, a reviewer claimed he couldn't hear the piano piece from a song called We Are Young by Fun when he wore Beats by Dre. I suggest a heavy bass song, a classical piece with a lot of flues, strings and cymbals, a vocal piece with a male voice, a vocal piece with a female voice and an action movie scene with lasers and explosions. I think it's more helpful by saying you couldn't hear the snare and cymbals on a particular song or the explosions in this scene sounded like somebody pressing buttons at a soda fountain.
Regarding your question about video review or written reviews I think they are complementary. I like to watch a video review. See the visual aspects of equipment. And your expressions (not only yours, but many people that made video reviews) translate in some feelings about the product, and it is possible to see if exists some real excitement or enjoy about the product. Just after I will read reviews with more technical details and comparisons.
Newb here: Hi, I bought Sony XB800 two weeks ago, they were just $50 in the Sony's online store and your review said they had too much bass, I don't have an audio amplifier, I use them connected to my Macbook and I feel they have bass but not that much bass, however, yesterday I found an EQ for the mac called 'Boom' and in a low end headphones (Panasonic RP-HJE140, $15) I felt they really boosted the sound, I haven't tried Boom + XB800 yet.
My question is, what are your thoughts on digital EQs?
I like watching video far more than reading review. In the video we could see how headphone sits on the head when you use them, you could have a better illustration of the headphone than just the photos.
Alright I'll do more research on it and maybe try it at the local audiophile store if at all possible. Do you have anything else to recommend?
Is the treble on these similar to that of the sony xba 4 iems, quantity and extension wise? I am familiar with the xba 4 treble and although it is smooth,I find the treble extension on that a little too much that it is somewhat distracting.
Deciding between these or the HD600 mainly for female voacals (house music/ mainstream pop/ Kpop :) ). I fear the HD600 would be too laid back for me similar to the HD555/595, but these would just sound like the sony xba 4's.
Hey Lachlan, great video! One question, comparing this with senns hd 558/598, which would do you think it's "better"?
I've been watching your videos since you've uploaded your first sennheiser momentum reviews I've enjoyed watching your detailed reviews... if you have so much time then you should write a review... but then again it would help to those people who have crappy internet connection, I live in a place where the highest connection speed is about 50 kb/s!!!, so it would help some people...
Hey Lachlan, I just want to say, the one-take video thing is fine. I just want to hear what you say about headphones. I don't really mind the 'high-tech transition' stuff lol
Righto, I'll take that onboard
If you will listen to some house/dubstep kind of music. What headphone will you use within that two, DT880 or D1000X?
I wish Inears would sound as fullsized headphones. That would be a real technical innovation :-)
just got these with a fiio ek10 amp and its perfect :D
Ok thanks for that, will try and audition the Sony.
Btw, have you tried the Monoprice 8320 IEMs? I think you should do a review on these, I wanna see how you compare them to other, more expensive iems. I bought one on ebay for about $20, and imo they sound much more balanced than any $100-$200 iems lol.
Great review, Lachlan! You don't need to cut, you really manage to focus on the essence, even in one take!
Why I like video reviews like this? First, I get a better feel of how the headphones are built. Second, the sound of headphones is a highly subjective thing and thus are better presented subjectively. I can better interpret what you're meaning by certain sound descriptions than on a written review, simply by how you're saying it.
I plan on buying a DT 880. But I'm unsure if I should go for 32 or 250 Ohms. I will also compare it once more to the DT 990 Pro, which is really a bargain these days. And maybe the Philips Fidelio X1 which I also really liked in my recent comparison session in the stores. Compared to these, Sennheiser HD 598, AKG K 701 and K 242 are out. The HD 600 is on par, but I liked the Beyer sound signature better. I haven't had a chance to listen to the ATH AD 900 or 1000, or to the Sony MA 900, but from what you told, I think I like the Beyers better.
Thanks Velt! I'd go for the 250 ohm :) If you preferred the DT880 over the HD600 I very much doubt you will like the MA900, but you might find the AD1000X interesting.
***** I'm wondering now, what would be the advantage of choosing the 250 ohm version over the lower impedance? Would the 250 ohm version plus amp sound a whole lot better than the 32 ohm version without amp? And thanks for all the video reviews.
Video reviews are the way to go...written reviews can't be as good as watching the reviews,i see that you are going with the video reviews now...good choice
They're good, but I wouldn't use them as a primary headphone. They exceed most alternatives in spaciousness and a certain realistic reverberation, but their clarity is mediocre (grainy and tinny) and they are a bit sharp in the highs. I've plaid Bioshock Infinite with them where they provided the necessary airiness and a grandeur which was quite something, but in most instances I can't listen to them for long, but I don't have them anymore anyway...
Great review. Subscribed.
Keep the nice work. You seem to get a little nervous in the middle of the video, probably because of the one take format... overall, great as always
if anything you should do the analytical review and the construction quality ect as a written review!! deff!!
Hey, thank you for the video. Do you have an amplifier even conecting the headphones to your reference monitors? I own a pair of Mackie Cr3 and I was wondering if those monitors are enough to drive a 250 ohm headphones. Thank you
How much outside noise could you here? I’m gonna be using there for audio/video editing and gaming. Will I be able to hear my semi loud pc fan?
Great video. Love your reviews. Can someone let me know what is that Album art thing running in the background ? Is it Itunes ? If yes how to get it ?
Himanshu Sharma Yes, that is the Screen Saver built into Mac OS X with the option selected to display artwork from the iTunes library.
Should I consider getting any of the Beyer-dynamic DT series.
My headphone right now is the Fidelio x2, Sennhiser HD598, V-moda m100,
and I have the Forstex massdrop Thx00. What do you think.
+john lin I wouldn't say that they're an upgrade over what you currently have. Unless you are trying to build a collection I see no real point in investing in the DT 880's, but that's just my opinion!
Save up for the next HD600 sale and that would be a worthwhile purchase I think.
+Horc I got the hd600, I want to know how it compares to the he400i.
Since you like relaxed headphones, have you thought to audition a Sennheiser HD600? Oh, and while the O2 is an excellent amp, if you like warmth, tube amps could take you "there".
Anyways, you are probably very informed on those things, but i'd just like to hear your opinion on the HD600, which i have and found to solve all my needs(this is someone who found the MDR 1-R sibilant).
Cheers!
I've heard the HD580, HD600 and HD650 quite a few times. I definitely really like them but I've never wanted to own a pair because the Sony MDR-MA900 actually sounds quite similar to the HD600.
Lachlan, I'm going to purchase first pair of cans. I listen to acoustics, oldies, funk, jazz, and and classical with some mainstream pop/rap. I play BF4 frequently. I'm deciding between dt880, ath-a700 or ath m40x., srh440. Thank You in advance for your insight man:)
Ath m40x is pure shit compared to Dt880.
I love your videos !!!!!!
I would prefer the full review, including sound quality and comparisons to be on the VIDEO. For me, at least, you don't have to spend quite so much time on the build quality. Thanks!
try 990 pro, the depth and power of base will surprise you for open headphones
+1 on Video. Your current format is great
by the way, try to check the DT770 A/E ;)
Do you know any shops that hold these in NSW? I need to audition one bad since everyone seems to have respect for this headphone.
The AD1000X and W1000X are severely out of my reach haha! although the AD990X does look tempting...
I was pleasantly surprised by these headphones when I heard them. I have a pair of T70Ps that I really dislike as they have absolutely no bass and are way too bright and analytically for my taste. Unfortunately even though they are "Semi-Open" they are still open... People can hear the music and you can hear people... The idea is great but not the best. Have you heard the T770 Pro 32ohm Limited Editions? How would they compare? Anyway I suggest you do the written reviews as well on a site!
Do I need an amp for these if I already have an apollo audio interface?
mrbass093 Good question
Hey Lachlan, nice review. Was just wondering, do you know what the differences between these and the DT990 are? Thanks.
Afraid I wouldn't know in detail sorry!
Thanks anyway.
Hey Laclan, I have a really important question. I'm looking for a new set of headphones and have narrowed my selection down to three choices. I'm looking at the Audiotechnica ath ad1000x, beyerdynamic dt 880, and the beyerdynamic dt 990. I'm unsure as which one would suit me best and would really appreciate your opinion. I pretty much only listen all styles of rock and I want these for gaming too. I already have a dac/amp to power whichever one I end up choosing. I would really be happy for your opinion and keep up the great the videos!
Joey Sendzik The DT880 is probably the most balanced of all three. The AD1000X has great female vocals but and a airy sound but it doesn't have a great deal of bass if that's important. The DT990 can get a little ear piercing because of its V-shaped sound and strong treble emphasis. The DT880 is less extreme than both.
+laclanlikesathing Thanks for the feed back! And I've never used a semi open set of headphones like the 880's and I was looking for an open set. Does that mean I should get the audiotechnica headphones I was talking about or is there little difference between open and semi open designs?
Joey Sendzik The 880 is for all intents and purposes an open headphone.
can you compare takstar HI 2050 and dt 880?...you will be surpised how similar the sound quality is between the 40$ and 200$ headphones
*350 dollar
This headphones are semi-open right? Can i use it for outdoors? How much the sound goes out?
No you can't really use this outdoors.
Wich is better, the 770 or the 880 pro version? how much sound leak does it has? There is difference in the quality of the sound between the 32 Ohm and the 250 Ohm version? Could you please do a sound leake test in the 880 pro? (Maybe maybe... :P)
Please help me guys!
PD: Srry for my bad english.
Sorry I don't have the 880 anymore and I can't compare with the 770 :(
Hi Lachlan, When you used DT880 with your Objective 2 were you using the amp in high or low gain? Thanks!
In 3x gain mode, my O2 was modified so that it has 1x and 3x gain.
***** Thanks mate!
Hi Laclan, do you prefer these over Audio Technica ATH-M50X?
Different price points, but which one would you go for?
Thanks.
they are not only different price points, they are for completely different uses. The DT770 is not portable. That said I do like the sound and comfort more than the M50x.
Thanks for that Laclan. Much appreciated!
okay next you need to review: audeze lcd-xc lcd-3- lcd-x, stax sr-007 sr-009, sennheiser hd600 hd650 hd700 hd800, abyss ab-1266, hifiman he-6 he-500 he-560 he400i and oppo pm-1 pm-2, since you are doing beyer.. you might as well get a t1. (don't forget to buy the proper amps and dacs for all of those)
Ur screen, how do that ? BTW: Nice review :D
Hey Lachlan, judging by the sound of your voice, it seems that you are Australian. Where do you get your headphones from?
Would these be good for electronic, chill, hip hop and some jazz? It seems like most people when reviewing the headphone listen to stuff like vocalists and classical.
I use DT770 Pros at the moment and can say they are great for chill and electronic music. There isn't too big of a difference between that and this.
I have the DT880 Pros rn and I can say I am satisfied. :)
I'm still waiting for you to get your hands on some dt 1990's ;P
Man, I just put the Linsoul ZS10 IEMs up against my Fostex TH7s and Pioneer X7 DJ pro headphones: the Linsouls sound 10000x better than either of the over the ear headphones.
This is a sad reflection on headphones. I mean they fucking BLOW THEM BOTH AWAY. In every category. I may never buy headphones again. And the Linsouls only cost $55 US.
Have you reviewed the Linsoul Tapes electrostatic hybrid IEMs yet? I cannot wait to hear those. I'm buying them sight unseen. So many headphones I audition either lack bass,
are too tinny, shouty, or have a brash high end. Or have bass but no refinement. It really is amazing. The Linsouls however sound like the best bookshelf speakers you've ever heard,
coupled with the best subwoofer you've ever heard. I'd stake my fucking life on it.
Hello Laclan, I have a question. I really like bright sounding headphones. How would these compare to the AKG K550 and the MSR7 or M70x? Which would you recommend more, when knowing I really like bright sounding headphones with lots of treble?
The K550 and the M70x are the best bets, choose between them based on practicality - the K550 is much larger.
***** Hi! Thanks for your answer. And would the AKG K550 and the M70x be the same soundwise? How do these compare?
I'm afraid I haven't heard them side by side and no longer own the K550. They should be quite different in character. But honestly I would choose between them first based on usage. The K550 is really too large to use outside the house. The M70x maybe isn't as comfortable for long term home use. So the decision is easier. If you want something quite bright sounding, also look at open Audio Technica cans.
***** Alright, thanks! One more question. So you are saying the M70x is definitely brighter than the MSR7? Thanks again, wonderful man!
Rob Hoiting Check out the beyerdynamic t70, very nice sparkly treble and fairly balanced overall.
is the headband metal? i heard they fit tight and you have to bend them for a while, which would be okay as long as it is metal. The audio technica ad700 fit awesome, but i want more bass
The clammy version is DT880 Pro, the Premium version are not clammy at all, and the premium version is more expensive than the Pro
Thanks
Can I run these with the Blue Yeti. Here is the stats for the amplifier on the unit: Headphone Amplifier
Impedance:16 ohms
Power Output (RMS): 130 mW
THD: 0.009%
Frequency Response: 15 Hz - 22 kHz
Signal to Noise: 100dB
Cheers
+Drakthiron I did it. Sounds absolutely wonderful. I had some bzz sound, but installing Equalizer APO and dampening the DB by -6 removed it completely. They sound freaking awesome, nice to see the bzz sound go away with high notes. :) Equalizer apo = my hero!! Still have enough juice to power them with the build in amp of my yeti. I tried SMSL SD793-II dac/amp. But it sound too harsh with these neutral headphones, I actually prefer my Yeti dampening the harshness. Weird I enjoy Yeti dac/amp more then a dedicated one. ^^
Please stick with the videos. It's such a breath of fresh air. As another guy said, there's plenty to read. I always keep your videos for bed time viewing. You're clued in to the hobby, you know what you're talking about. Keep it up!
~Mark
BTW if you get a chance to listen to the HiFiMAN RE-600, I would love to see a video about them.
Also in one side cable headphone the two channels are identical.
can you do a review of PSB M4U2,, cheers
Hello Laclan, i'm in the market for a pair of open headphone for comfort, sound stage, and less fatigue (i'm using M50). how would you compare AD900x to DT880?
thanks.
Bryan Yong The DT880 may be just as fatiguing as the M50 because of the treble. The AD900X is safer. You could also consider the Sennheiser HD650 or the Sony MDR-MA900; those are pretty smooth and will sound bassier than the AD900X - which you might be more used to coming from the M50.
Thanks man... this is really helpful...
***** how about soundstage, comparing DT880 to MA900?
***** What is your desktop speaker set up and how do you drive them?