It has to do with the material of the desk and the deskmat. These 2 things influence the sound of the exact same keyboard. The sound of the video also depends on which microphone is used and how it was setup (far from the keyboad, close to the keyboard, etc). In the end the sound you hear is also depended on your own speakers. So when you buy a keyboard based on the sound you heard in a youtube video, you might be suprised how it sounds in real life. This doesn't mean that these videos are worthless, these videos are good for comparing different sounds AND they give a pretty good idea of how a keyboard sounds.
I like tactile keys so was looking at the moss ones but they sounded terrible in the official soundtest but this video has shown that they are actually very nice and not as hollow sounding as the official test
Cowberry is amazing. I’m so grateful that Nuphy already modded the board with poron foam and silicone. It’s such a beautiful, thick sound for such a thin keyboard.
Thank you for the sound sample of these especially the Cowberry ones. You may or may not remember me & my comment on your full review of the Air75V2 in which I said that I hadn't ever had a mechanical keyboard before & I researched & to be "safe" (as I didn't want a super loud sound when typing or a switch that I had to press super hard & 'bottom out' before a keystroke was registered, I went with the Gateron Brown 2.0 Switch, (because even at least during the preorder for the Air75V2, the Cowberry Switches weren't available as a separate set, sigh) but the sample in that video of the single Cowberry switch was intriguing by it's sound & this video in which you were typing on a full set of the Cowberry's has me thinking that I am leaning towards ordering a set of those now too & in my very brief testing of my Air75 V2 with the Brown Switches, I am satisfied with it & your review of it, gave me the nudge to take a chance on it, so thank you for that & your review of both the keyboard itself & these switches!
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I bought moss switch and I'm glad that I chose moss. Love tactile switch
I tried the Cowberry and Aloe (linear switches); they required no force, and the space bar felt dead. If you're coming from Apple or MX Keys Moss, Blues or Wisteria is the way to go. (Tactile) . (Moss has a great feel regarding thump and force). Sound tests on TH-cam are irrelevant to the feel which is more important when typing for hours. I also wanted to note that they sell sample packs of the switches on Amazon which is great if you don't want to waste time or money.
@@LopessT1 Hey sorry about that Nuphy does not sell a sample pack themselves but there’s plenty of Gateron low profile switches to try out on there. The way I found out about Moss switches is ordering a keyboard from them and they came with sample pack of their switches.
This is the comment I was looking for. I have a MX keys mini which I enjoy typing on and I’m looking at getting a low profile mechanical keyboard. I had the K3 pro with brown switches but didn’t feel right to me and the key presses felt light and bottoming out. I’m considering trying the Nuphy Air75 v2 with Moss switches. The cowberry sounds great but I’m sure they will be too light for my liking.
@@COB506 Yup! I also tried the blue switches and they weren't for me. They were too loud and clicky and required too much force. I also bought a Lofree Flow 100 and it has the perfect switches as well and they came with the black Phantom tactile switches.
@@MatN1988 I just ordered an Air75 v2 with moss switches through Amazon. We’ll see how it feels and worst case I can just return it. I can’t believe I even spent that much on a keyboard, but it is a daily tool I use to be fair. Lofree is so expensive! And has less features that I want so I’m not going that route. If the Nuphy doesn’t cut it, I’m going back to MX keys mini.
Great comparison, I ended up going with the cowberry switches. Also you should do a review on the new air 60 v2 when it comess out. Great video and chanel!
I got cowberry, they are real smooth and butterish but if you are looking for even less resistance I think aloe are the ones to go. I tried one as it came with the keyboard and its even smoother than cowberry
@@Ribcutthe sound comes from bottoming out; the cowberries have a bottom out force of 55gf while for aloe it's 40gf. less force to bottom out means you're going to bottom out faster and with more excess force → louder sound
Definitely going Cowberry. Altho, I feel like they use very similar (if not the same) switches for the Spacebar, Enter keys, and any other wide keys - which are usually a creamy feel. Putting in pre-order for the Air96 V2!
haha, loving the video. I initially wanted to buy with Aloe switches but they were out of stock in my country shop. I decided to took the Cowberry, after your vid, I am happy that i did that.
Just ordered the Air60v2 with moss switches and I'm really looking forward to them. I'll probably pick up some cowberry switches down the line, but IMO that space bar really let down the cowberry switches in this test.
Can't disagree with you on the spacebar. One of the reasons why I love that NuPhy gives you a sample of each switch in the box is because I often change the switch on the spacebar to find just the right sound.
I want to try a new switch, I've only had MX cherry red switched which are linear but I really want to try a tactile switch. Not sure what to choose though... the moss switches sound nice
Hi, love your content ! Please advise - I’ve got the Logitech mx mini (non-mechanical / scissor switches) which perfect, I returned the mx mechanical mini tactile quiet switches for having too much key travel and feeling mushy. Which Nuphy switches would you recommend which can match my mx mini’s scissor switches - fast, low key travel, least amount of resistance ? Thank you !
Nuphy released their own video a couple of months ago with sound tests, including the Wisteria and Cowberry switches. Look that one up :). I only have the 1 wisteria sample switch that came with my order - I ordered cowberry - but I've tried the Wisteria out for a few keys. The Cowberry are definitely thockier to my ear. Though there's not that much in it.
I just got the moss switches. i feel like if im gaming or typing on a low profile keyboard, i prefer brown style tactile switches. help reduce miss clicks and overtyping.
What are the distinctions between Moss switches compared to Gateron Blue and Brown switches? I seek a switch that offers a slightly more tactile and clicky feel than Browns, yet not as pronounced as Gateron Blues. Will Moss switches meet my criteria?
I have the Wisteria in an Air75v2 and just not happy with the sound or feel, trying to decide between the Moss, Gateron Banana or Gateron Chocolate. Both the the Gateron offering have audible leaf ping though and very few reviews. I do have the shine through on mine which may be giving a thinner sound as well.
I ended up going with the Gateron Banana and they have a nice bump and are a little heavier than the Wisteria and Moss but still not too happy with the sound. The feel is better though and the non-shine through caps help the sound IMHO. I had the shine through on that and they definitely brighten the sound, which wasn't what I was going for.
I just bought one with the cowberries, didn't see your video ontime to use your code. But for those reading they also will have a 20% discount starting dec 21 2023. (Delete my comment if you feel it inappropriate)
I listened to various videos, read many reviews and since the quietest/best sounding were cowberry (linear so out of the equation/can easily be unintentionally 'triggered') and Wisteria, which are tactile.. I picked Wisteria. The sound and resistance I could see (hopefully I'm right) were unbeatable. The brown ones sound clicky in comparision and I know the Moss has a higher actuation force/at the beginning and sounds too loud and high pitched in comparison. I'll see in a few days..
@isaacfuentes905 hey! What can I say.. you have to try them yourself; watching reviews etc. can only point you in a certain direction. I was wrong. Wisteria are quite clicky and need a bit actuation force to work. Great for typing, but not so much for gaming. On the other hand the cowberries were actually what I was looking for. They have a bit pre-travel/very small bump, so you can't actually unintentionally trigger them and do very nicely for typing AND gaming (are much quiter/more hollow sound). They are the ones for me ;) Hope this helped.
My current keyboard is an air 75 (also my first mechanical keyboard), originally I had the blue switches but replaced them with the red gateron 2.0. The transition was an interesting thing, the difference in the action force is really noticeable. A couple of weeks ago I ordered an Air96 V2 with moss switches and I'm looking forward to it, they will be the first tactile switches I use and I am really interested in those 60gf Do any of you have a normal profile keyboard? I'm interested in getting one (the Gem 80 looks beautiful) and would appreciate feedback.
Having installed O-rings on my Air75 v2 (with moss)… Not much difference. I think a lot of the sound is from the design of their keycaps. I’ll have to try another profile keycap and see if that helps
Cowberry has a deeper tone which comes across almost quieter than Wisteria, but I think Wisteria actually might be a tad quieter, just slightly higher pitched so it has this effect like it seems louder even though the volume is not...if that makes sense. In terms of typing enjoyment, it really depends on whether you like a tactile bump. The Wisteria's tactile bump is pretty mild, not nearly as sharp as the new Moss switch, but it's still there if you like that little bit of feedback. I personally like Cowberry the best for the deeper sound and linear smooth feel.
What are the distinctions between Moss switches compared to Gateron Blue and Brown switches? I seek a switch that offers a slightly more tactile and clicky feel than Browns, yet not as pronounced as Gateron Blues. Will Moss switches meet my criteria?
From what I've been seeing, moss switches are more tactile than browns. People say that browns are basically just a "dirty" linear switch. As in, they might as well be a linear switch because they don't have a very noticeable bump when you press them. I have browns (not low profile) on my keyboard (not the keyboard in the vid) and I'll say that sounds about right. Just a tiny, gentle click as you press them down. I imagine moss switches need a bit more pressure and have a more noticeable click or bump. Blues are more tactile than moss as far as I know. And they are clicky (sound), which isn't for me. But if you like the clicky clacky you'll probably like them. I think I'm going with moss and lubing them bad boys up unless they come lubed. Then I'll order some cowberry switches in the future if I feel like trying linear. Take this with a grain of salt, I just started looking at this keyboard today
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which keycaps option did you end up going for the Nuphy?
I don't know how you did it but your sound test sounds better then the official examples from Nuphy
It has to do with the material of the desk and the deskmat. These 2 things influence the sound of the exact same keyboard. The sound of the video also depends on which microphone is used and how it was setup (far from the keyboad, close to the keyboard, etc). In the end the sound you hear is also depended on your own speakers. So when you buy a keyboard based on the sound you heard in a youtube video, you might be suprised how it sounds in real life. This doesn't mean that these videos are worthless, these videos are good for comparing different sounds AND they give a pretty good idea of how a keyboard sounds.
I like tactile keys so was looking at the moss ones but they sounded terrible in the official soundtest but this video has shown that they are actually very nice and not as hollow sounding as the official test
Cowberry is amazing. I’m so grateful that Nuphy already modded the board with poron foam and silicone. It’s such a beautiful, thick sound for such a thin keyboard.
I have the cowberry switches in my Air75 v2 and I can confirm they sound exactly as it's portrayed here. Great micing.
I don't see a lot of keyboard/switch reviews that I like, but what you're doing..I like!
Excellent video, thank you! Just ordered the Air75 v2 with Cowberry; can’t wait!
Thank you for the sound sample of these especially the Cowberry ones. You may or may not remember me & my comment on your full review of the Air75V2 in which I said that I hadn't ever had a mechanical keyboard before & I researched & to be "safe" (as I didn't want a super loud sound when typing or a switch that I had to press super hard & 'bottom out' before a keystroke was registered, I went with the Gateron Brown 2.0 Switch, (because even at least during the preorder for the Air75V2, the Cowberry Switches weren't available as a separate set, sigh) but the sample in that video of the single Cowberry switch was intriguing by it's sound & this video in which you were typing on a full set of the Cowberry's has me thinking that I am leaning towards ordering a set of those now too & in my very brief testing of my Air75 V2 with the Brown Switches, I am satisfied with it & your review of it, gave me the nudge to take a chance on it, so thank you for that & your review of both the keyboard itself & these switches!
I bought moss switch and I'm glad that I chose moss. Love tactile switch
they are unbeatable!
I tried the Cowberry and Aloe (linear switches); they required no force, and the space bar felt dead. If you're coming from Apple or MX Keys Moss, Blues or Wisteria is the way to go. (Tactile) . (Moss has a great feel regarding thump and force). Sound tests on TH-cam are irrelevant to the feel which is more important when typing for hours. I also wanted to note that they sell sample packs of the switches on Amazon which is great if you don't want to waste time or money.
Hey bro, I can’t find samples of Nuphy LP switches on Amazon or other site. Can you share the link you mean? Thanks in advance!
@@LopessT1 Hey sorry about that Nuphy does not sell a sample pack themselves but there’s plenty of Gateron low profile switches to try out on there. The way I found out about Moss switches is ordering a keyboard from them and they came with sample pack of their switches.
This is the comment I was looking for. I have a MX keys mini which I enjoy typing on and I’m looking at getting a low profile mechanical keyboard. I had the K3 pro with brown switches but didn’t feel right to me and the key presses felt light and bottoming out. I’m considering trying the Nuphy Air75 v2 with Moss switches.
The cowberry sounds great but I’m sure they will be too light for my liking.
@@COB506 Yup! I also tried the blue switches and they weren't for me. They were too loud and clicky and required too much force. I also bought a Lofree Flow 100 and it has the perfect switches as well and they came with the black Phantom tactile switches.
@@MatN1988 I just ordered an Air75 v2 with moss switches through Amazon. We’ll see how it feels and worst case I can just return it. I can’t believe I even spent that much on a keyboard, but it is a daily tool I use to be fair. Lofree is so expensive! And has less features that I want so I’m not going that route. If the Nuphy doesn’t cut it, I’m going back to MX keys mini.
Cowberry bro... I love the sound. I just ordered the Air75 V2, thanks for the reviews!
Great comparison, I ended up going with the cowberry switches. Also you should do a review on the new air 60 v2 when it comess out. Great video and chanel!
I got cowberry, they are real smooth and butterish but if you are looking for even less resistance I think aloe are the ones to go. I tried one as it came with the keyboard and its even smoother than cowberry
It's strange how they're louder though for linear switches with an even lower actuation force.
Nothing about that makes sense to me.
@@Ribcutthe sound comes from bottoming out; the cowberries have a bottom out force of 55gf while for aloe it's 40gf. less force to bottom out means you're going to bottom out faster and with more excess force → louder sound
@@matunosCowberry is 45 gf and Aloe is 37 gf
@@precursors that's their activation forces (amount of force needed to register a keypress), not their bottom out force
Definitely going Cowberry. Altho, I feel like they use very similar (if not the same) switches for the Spacebar, Enter keys, and any other wide keys - which are usually a creamy feel. Putting in pre-order for the Air96 V2!
Looking forward to my Ar75v2 (with Moss) coming soon.
The same!
haha, loving the video. I initially wanted to buy with Aloe switches but they were out of stock in my country shop. I decided to took the Cowberry, after your vid, I am happy that i did that.
Just ordered the Air60v2 with moss switches and I'm really looking forward to them. I'll probably pick up some cowberry switches down the line, but IMO that space bar really let down the cowberry switches in this test.
Can't disagree with you on the spacebar. One of the reasons why I love that NuPhy gives you a sample of each switch in the box is because I often change the switch on the spacebar to find just the right sound.
Hows the Air60v2? Did you get it already?
I have the brown v2 on my air 96. Going to try the cowberry's :). Thanks for the review!
Cowberry is probably the best choice, I have already got 3 Nuphy keyboards, lol...
I think I'm going to get Moss than Wisteria at this point. I love the kinda click/tactile sound feedback.
I want to try a new switch, I've only had MX cherry red switched which are linear but I really want to try a tactile switch. Not sure what to choose though... the moss switches sound nice
Hi, love your content ! Please advise - I’ve got the Logitech mx mini (non-mechanical / scissor switches) which perfect, I returned the mx mechanical mini tactile quiet switches for having too much key travel and feeling mushy. Which Nuphy switches would you recommend which can match my mx mini’s scissor switches - fast, low key travel, least amount of resistance ? Thank you !
Thanks for your thoughts on the Moss switches. I will be getting an Air60 v2 with them.
Really undecided between the Cowberry and Wisteria. Which ones do you reckon are the thockiest? Have you tried a full Wisteria keyboard?
Actually the difference is minimal. Overtime, you are not going notice the difference.
Nuphy released their own video a couple of months ago with sound tests, including the Wisteria and Cowberry switches. Look that one up :). I only have the 1 wisteria sample switch that came with my order - I ordered cowberry - but I've tried the Wisteria out for a few keys. The Cowberry are definitely thockier to my ear. Though there's not that much in it.
I just got the moss switches. i feel like if im gaming or typing on a low profile keyboard, i prefer brown style tactile switches. help reduce miss clicks and overtyping.
How do air75 v2 cowberry compare to lofree ghost switches please…?
I also have this exact question. I'm about to order both to find out at this point 😂
What are the distinctions between Moss switches compared to Gateron Blue and Brown switches? I seek a switch that offers a slightly more tactile and clicky feel than Browns, yet not as pronounced as Gateron Blues. Will Moss switches meet my criteria?
Is the bump higher on the Moss switches? The info on them gives the impression that they have less travel than the browns before you get to the bump?
I have the Wisteria in an Air75v2 and just not happy with the sound or feel, trying to decide between the Moss, Gateron Banana or Gateron Chocolate. Both the the Gateron offering have audible leaf ping though and very few reviews. I do have the shine through on mine which may be giving a thinner sound as well.
I ended up going with the Gateron Banana and they have a nice bump and are a little heavier than the Wisteria and Moss but still not too happy with the sound. The feel is better though and the non-shine through caps help the sound IMHO. I had the shine through on that and they definitely brighten the sound, which wasn't what I was going for.
The moss is better than brown v1?
Would you say the cowberry or the wisteria is quieter? I had a hard time time deciding and went with cowberry for gaming.
also curious about this!
I'm guessing you guys didn't watch the video all the way through. He said Wisteria.
@@nissan_skyline I'm guessing you have a lot of strong opinions
So confused… ive got the cowberries in a 75 but the wisterias sound lower pitch and thockier in the board….
I just bought one with the cowberries, didn't see your video ontime to use your code. But for those reading they also will have a 20% discount starting dec 21 2023. (Delete my comment if you feel it inappropriate)
Are the Aloe more silent than the Cowberry?
Are the Nuphy Moss better than the new Gateron banana? I have cowberry in my board and they feel mushy 😒
Will the cowberry switches sound the same on air 75 v1?
I listened to various videos, read many reviews and since the quietest/best sounding were cowberry (linear so out of the equation/can easily be unintentionally 'triggered') and Wisteria, which are tactile.. I picked Wisteria. The sound and resistance I could see (hopefully I'm right) were unbeatable. The brown ones sound clicky in comparision and I know the Moss has a higher actuation force/at the beginning and sounds too loud and high pitched in comparison. I'll see in a few days..
Do u still like wisterias?
@isaacfuentes905 hey! What can I say.. you have to try them yourself; watching reviews etc. can only point you in a certain direction. I was wrong.
Wisteria are quite clicky and need a bit actuation force to work. Great for typing, but not so much for gaming. On the other hand the cowberries were actually what I was looking for. They have a bit pre-travel/very small bump, so you can't actually unintentionally trigger them and do very nicely for typing AND gaming (are much quiter/more hollow sound). They are the ones for me ;)
Hope this helped.
My current keyboard is an air 75 (also my first mechanical keyboard), originally I had the blue switches but replaced them with the red gateron 2.0. The transition was an interesting thing, the difference in the action force is really noticeable.
A couple of weeks ago I ordered an Air96 V2 with moss switches and I'm looking forward to it, they will be the first tactile switches I use and I am really interested in those 60gf
Do any of you have a normal profile keyboard? I'm interested in getting one (the Gem 80 looks beautiful) and would appreciate feedback.
Do you have a link to your hoodie?
What's the best switch for typing on air75 v2?
Does anyone know how the NuPhy Mosses compare to the Keychron optical early bump switches (e.g. mint or banana)?
What about wisteria?
id happy to keep everything exactly the same as a linear or cowberry but no sound, absolutely quiet.
Can you test these switches with O rings please?
Having installed O-rings on my Air75 v2 (with moss)…
Not much difference. I think a lot of the sound is from the design of their keycaps. I’ll have to try another profile keycap and see if that helps
What do you think of Cowberry vs Wisteria for "quietest" but also nice to type on?
Cowberry has a deeper tone which comes across almost quieter than Wisteria, but I think Wisteria actually might be a tad quieter, just slightly higher pitched so it has this effect like it seems louder even though the volume is not...if that makes sense. In terms of typing enjoyment, it really depends on whether you like a tactile bump. The Wisteria's tactile bump is pretty mild, not nearly as sharp as the new Moss switch, but it's still there if you like that little bit of feedback. I personally like Cowberry the best for the deeper sound and linear smooth feel.
the spacebar is very resonant. It it ringing like an African drum.
Thanks.
nuphy 홈페이지에 있는 영상보다 도움이 된다.
Lofree still sounds better IMO. It fails in every other aspect though.
спасибо за подробный обзор
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Cowberry
Cowberry - It sounds like he's hitting an empty bucket. :/
Would the cowberry switches be to loud for a work enviorment?
What are the distinctions between Moss switches compared to Gateron Blue and Brown switches? I seek a switch that offers a slightly more tactile and clicky feel than Browns, yet not as pronounced as Gateron Blues. Will Moss switches meet my criteria?
From what I've been seeing, moss switches are more tactile than browns. People say that browns are basically just a "dirty" linear switch. As in, they might as well be a linear switch because they don't have a very noticeable bump when you press them. I have browns (not low profile) on my keyboard (not the keyboard in the vid) and I'll say that sounds about right. Just a tiny, gentle click as you press them down.
I imagine moss switches need a bit more pressure and have a more noticeable click or bump.
Blues are more tactile than moss as far as I know. And they are clicky (sound), which isn't for me. But if you like the clicky clacky you'll probably like them.
I think I'm going with moss and lubing them bad boys up unless they come lubed. Then I'll order some cowberry switches in the future if I feel like trying linear.
Take this with a grain of salt, I just started looking at this keyboard today