Honkai: Star Rail 2.0 Tier List
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2024
- This is my breakdown of each character in HSR and why I ranked them where I did! There will always be bias in these lists, but these are my top characters to pull for in 2.0 and beyond!
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"The more units of a particular type you have, the less value people get"
Except Kafka. The more DoTs she has the better she gets. Even if they release another DoT detonator, why not just double up and detonate DoTs with Kafka and the 2nd DoT detonator?
Topaz?
@@trejohnson3363she's a Follow-up damage dealer not a DoT damage dealer tho.
You can detonate dots with gunifen or e4 Sampo. I've seen people play bs, Kafka, Sampo etc. If another 5* came out itd be good. Especially cuz black swan can still apply alot of arcana on her normal attacks
We need 5*bleed and 5* burn dotter and we shall see a new potential for dot team
@@kuyarence that's the point, she's a follow up synergist, just like how kafka is a dot synergist they both only gain from having more characters that do dot or follow up attack (I probably should've explained this in my first reply to avoid confusion) I wasn't comparing the idea that they were both dots or something but rather that they synergise with certain playstyles and therefore only gain from other units falling into those playstyles
Fu xuan and Ruan Mei have only 1 disadvantage...
That there can be only one at a time. ;_;
Universal characters.
Agree, the amount of times I’ve played MOC and wished I could’ve put her in both team slots😭
I put Ruan Mei with Himeko and Herta in the latest PF after trying the with Tingyun as buffer and Pela as debuffer. My score increase from 33k to easy 40k with even 1 cycle left. Ruan Mei is just insane
EXACTLY.
Fu xuan is getting powercrept hard with the latest aventurine buffs
Trueeeeee@@eggpam8908
Im scared, traumatized after seeing that thumbnail with u smiling like this, it's 2am rn i don't feel like sleeping no more
he changed the thumb from a smile to a troll face LMAO
Sleep with one hole close babe 😍
Loucha's hidden talent: generate skill points for your team.
Even though most of them use Huohuo, Luocha is a luxury character for me. No need to worry about skill points. In SU, Swarm & G&G, with Erudition blessings, he literally deals more dmg before my dps could finish it 😆
He’s so comfy, I love him for that
His talent is not that noticeable when in play. He is a comfy character in terms of eccesive healing but thats about it. He really doesnt provide that much for the team (unless you have idleons) and even with idleones if you wanna get into it Huohuo still is better than him with idlelones too
Can't wait for the low effort tectone reaction LMAO
why? its ok tier list
He will lose his mind when he see imbibitor lunae in ss tier and huo huo/silver wolf in s tier, the unfounded hatred he have for those characters is insane
@@Charlos16 Luocho S tier and not SS am i feeling like he should be SS
@@linenfresh no
@@linenfreshi mean he put huo huo at S tier so i think it fair
0:30 I wasn't a fan of DOT style i used to play ILDH.. but when i pulled black swan by mistake i said to myself well, let's give it a shot.. and OMG man I was impressed to the point that I shifted my whole play style to the DOT type.. the dmg is unbelievable and the feel of getting 300k+ dmg is insane it's so fun
Have you done Simulated Universe with a DOT team and chosen Nihility path? Talk about easy mode. 😂
@@themightyfleaforonce4656 I've finished every single contet with nihility actually 😂😂 it's ridiculous
@@themightyfleaforonce4656 new player my team is level 60 but I destroyed Sim universe with black swan and guinafen with path of nihility. I was getting 30-40k dots when my ratio hunt path only hits for 10+k.
@@YoneTubeeyea me too even without weakness I go nihility and it just demolish everything. I currently run e0s1 kafka and e1 bs, no luck on reforged remembrance
I don't have ruan mei and so I run guinaifen. Firekiss+burn really helps, especially when you max stacked the firekiss
16:05 Jing got a massive bust, you damn right he did
Yeah jing yuan is actually crazy good now against 3 enemies his follow up attack does 300k and ult 160k (mine does at least)
@@senioralexander6681 🥲🥲
12:56 luocha can also remove buffs with his ult, maybe he thought about doing it with skill but didn't mention it
Alot of people just forget loucha has buff stripping in his ult
Even Luka's skill removes enemies buff
@@srimahimaa1918*debuff
Cocolia buffing and then my Luocha ulting.
@@exboom12no they're right
Mtashed, you're missing out. DOT characters are my favorite. Nothing like seeing a boss's life drain on their turn. It's like "oh you thought you were going to attack me, how adorable!"
In the dreamjolt event my Kafka hit for 1.2 mil on her ult. Shits insane
Dot teams literally give cancer to bosses, especially if you have Kafka or black swan
My Kafka BS team just shreds everything lmao. Like bosses just go from like 50% to 0 hp before moving it’s insane
My kafka team doesnt even need to break enemies, their life just gets draineddd
16:56 “he knew at that moment he fucked up“
He turned to a community tier list in a heart beat 😂😂😂
Just listen to any word a seele simp has to say, if u don't ur email will be full the following morning🗿
if you count raw dmg, jy is better than seele and qq. Also by skill point use count
@@reulery jingyuan and blade will always be stuck in A cause people at prydwen keep sucking seele off and thinking that dogwater char is in the same teir as Dr ratio QQ dhil and jinglui........
@@treasure9342 lol true but rlly idc abt them.
i think huohuo deserves ss, you mention theres other healers that can sustain but the fact that she is basically a harmony unit at the same time makes her busted as hell. huohuo and tingyun can make any dps spam the hell out of their ult while also providing the best healing in the game
Agree
As a day 1 Herta main, I'm so glad to see her finally escape the D and C tiers. Can't thank Hoyoverse enough for adding Pure Fiction to bump her up. The only issue now is, I don't like Himeko...so I can't make her as cracked as she could be in PF until I finally break and build her.
Herta + himeko is so crazy for mobs. Just endless Fua. You should break and build her. The synergy between the two is so fun.
Watching this video, I definitely feel a bit bad about not pulling much for Huohuo. Granted, I was new to the game (joined in 1.5 update) and wasn't aware how much I'd appreciate having her later down the line.
I'm definitely considering pulling for Fu Xuan over Acheron when 2.1 Part 1 Banners come out.
yes aim Fu Xuan and her LC
simulation universe is a breeze if you have them both
the LC practically negates all "HP down by xx %" SU debuff it's insane
I will also go for fu xuan even thow I am an acheron main. I will also try my luck for adventurie too to try if I can get him just cuz Dr ratio work well with him (praying for a topaz too but i have to see)
@@sorinamarcu5357 considering how Topaz is returning alongside Aventurine's banner, you have a chance. Just a matter if your Stellar Jade count, and potentially your wallet, can handle it
I also dont have a sustain except for gepard, bailu and the other 2 free four stars. And of those i only build bailu and lynx. I might want to skip acheron as well for a sustain because i really struggle with enemies who can cc me or put dots on my characters
Tectone convinced me not to pull Huohuo and I don't regret it. Her character design is not appealing to me. She's a scared girl that will never grow up.
The wolf ghost is really cool though
Bro had me refreshing thinking 360p was the only option because I was too early 😭
Bailu is great not only for healing, but her passive allows your team to tank damage that you might not typically do. It acts similarly to Fu Xuan field but only a limited number of times and it's per ult instead of skill.
Obviously not having a cleanse sucks, but for opponents that burst you down like Sam or the twin aurumatons in G&G, Bailu will literally save runs.
Sam is honestly a good place where bailu thrives over someone like FX cause against sam u take so much damage from using ur skill it hurts and FX can't heal it
.....I can see her classing out hou hou cause she heals at only start of the turn............but bailu is worse then loucha on every possible way.........cause loucha is literally the " TRY to die char"
@@treasure9342 HuoHuo also heals on ult. And characters below half health heal even when its not their turn. Unfortunately, imma have to disagree on the huohuo take.
@@treasure9342i disagree on huo huo canz even if her healing is worse and doesn't have a emergency heal like other characters, the utility she provides is not something to scoff at .
@@treasure9342 i literally can't survive against argenti boss with luocha.
@@treasure9342i disagree with bailu out classing huo huo. Huo huo can turn your allies skills and ult into panic heals. Especially if you are below 50% health any action can heal you plus cleanse. Only thing bailu has one up on huo huo is the revive
I've built all three of the non 5 star limited healers, and with Bailu and Lynx I've still not encountered a situation where I've wanted to use Natasha. Plenty of MoC phases benefit from having cleanse, sure, but usually it's not necessary, and so far it's never been necessary for both phases. Usually I wish that I could just use Bailu on both. Her rez often functions as a kind of free heal and cleanse.
Of course, what I really wish is to get one of the better healers. No idea what I was thinking skipping Huohuo.
“I made a tier list and it changes everything”
I kind of just realized something looking at this. The nice thing about HSR is that they actually do provide some incentive to pull for some of these characters based off the different gameplay modes the devs have put in since launch. It does, unfortunately, become a case of people needing more than what you might otherwise need from Genshin, but they succeeded in giving players the incentive to build otherwise trash characters like Himeko and Herta without giving them some kind of buff, and instead, using a whole entire gameplay mode that actually becomes VERY VERY satisfying when you manage to proc one follow-up attack after another with them. I absolutely LOVE it, and hope they put one, two, maybe three more game modes in HSR, but no more than that, lest it becomes too flooded.
Anyway, it really baffles me how two teams from the same company can think SO differently from one another. But in the case of Genshin, I've come to the conclusion that maybe it's really not the devs that are holding it back so much as it is mobile. Think about it -- which platform is the most cumbersome to play on? It's mobile, because the controls they have available to them are for more constrictive unless you have a controller. Not only that, but performance is often times lower than what you have on PC and Console, even to the point where they had to keep the load in Teapot on the lower end to accommodate them. So maybe the reason they have a game centered more around minigames and just garbage in general is more for the mobile crowd, especially since that's probably the largest demographic of where the casual player base are coming from.
Yeah, i love watching kuru kuru into pizza cutter into kuru kuru into pizza cutter into kuru kuru into pizza cutter, its mind blowing 😂
I think Luocha’s ult strips enemy buffs too. But aoe
Yes
Im always listening to your tips and ideas! Im new at the game, and ever since i saw you in yt. Maaannn, my genshin impact and honkai starrail exp shoots off the roof with excitement! Hope you make more contents like tipa for beginners! More power to you MTASHED!! ❤
I like this tier list, I agree with almost everything you say. Only thing that stood out to me was March being in B tier. I would place her in mid to low A tier because of her Freeze ult. She has a good shield too if you build her right, and at e6 she can also be a mini healer. I say mini because it’s not that much, but it can be helpful if you keep the shield(s) up on your character(s). I’ve never used Gepard because I don’t have him, but I can see why he’s above March because of his ult, so I’d maybe move him above March in A tier too.
Thanks for this video :D Will be interesting to see what else there come up with
I think you're undervalueing luocha a lil bit. He can actually also strip enemy buffs, and he is so skill points positive because u don't need to use his skill. So I think he is just a different kind of good with the other sustains
This changes everything
One thing i love about bailu is she can bring back the downed character once per fight and replenish half health. That's hard to come by.
For me, I say Ruan Mei is the best character in the game for the fact that shes not only a giga offensive buffer, but the way her kit works allow her to reduce the pressure on ur sustains
Thanks papa tash I been playing since launch and missing like 8 5 stars so I really needed to know who to focus on building
Dr. Ratio is a savior to all new players.
I have Gepard built with a Sparkle team. She really helps in those lags between shields. Cut out a little DPS to push him up enough to proc a quick shield. Helps alot
Wauw!!! I can't believe that this is the first tier list I actually agree with. Great tier list Tashman! 👍 💯
My JYe0S1 I just use him everywhere since 1.0 and clear everything full stars I might struggle with lightning res enemies but still pulling through, of there is no lightning I just use SW. What is good about JY it's his versatility PF or MoC you can plug him everywhere. He and Blade are my most invested dpses. I like Blade for comfiness, but JY is my go to so far if I need to clear something.
same, solid S, the backloaded damage of his is the problem, but gets the job done 1-2 or 3 at the very worst turns in MOC efficiently.
I had a hard time with JY. His traces are maxed but somehow, relying on lightning lord is not comfortable for me to the point I'd rather use serval for lightning weakness. Even with the addiction of sparkle, I'd still rather run sparkle with QQ. It's just not fun for me to wait for lightning lord to do big damage.
Good to know some people enjoy him, I hope I can find a way to enjoy him too lol.
@@plutoadmirer9904if your serval is remotely close to your Jings performance then you are playing him wrong
@@plutoadmirer9904 probably just not you favorite way of playing, what I like it's full aoe with skill/ult, it may not be strong, but you can remedy it with harmonies etc.And them at the end if you do right rotations LL just lands a big nuke. 😁 Serval is good too, I play her sometimes on my other account, she's completely different for sure.
Great tier list video imo, overall very accurate!!
What i love about Welt is how crazy he is paired up with Ruan Mei..
Esepcially Ruan Mei with the new Break Effect Relic..
She can gives 50% BE alone to other teammates..
And Welt with his own imprisonment from his ult & breaking, can double down on slowing the enemies..
This open up more move for other dps to do.. especially good pair with ratio since he gives both slow and imprisonment, plus if you gave silverwolf / luka lc.. with ruan mei ult..
Feelscrafting is one of the reasons why I subbed to you in 2020 bro. Keep it up 💯
About Lynx and Gepard, I built both and use them everyday. They are both in the same tier. Depending on the team, when you don't need cleanse Gepard is better otherwise Lynx is better.
Gepard :
- provide massive shield
- need speed boots and an energy rope to perform well and be SP positive
- if too slow compare to the rest of your team you'll run out of shield really often
- really bad with characters who advance others or have multiple turns between his turns (Bronya, Sparkle, Seele, Sushang etc) shield will vanish in a blink
Lynx :
- really good with destruction or preservation, skill give aggro
- heal is pretty low even with a good build
- cleanse is on ultimate and remove only 1 debuff. Not reliable against Kafka and other enemies who land multiple debuffs. Sometimes the debuff you need to be cleansed aren't (ex: lightning DoT is cleansed instead of charm)
Due to enemies and characters available now, both have major flaws even though they can perform great most of the time
Gepard is the really good at preventing one-shots IMO which is actually fairly important in MoC. Of course not as good as Fu Xuan but I'd still take him over Lynx most of the time.
Not sure if its because of E1, but my Loucha strips buffs off enemies with his ultimate. Super handy to wipe out a team worth of buffs
He can do that at E0
@@ZZzz...69 thanky. Wasn't sure if it was eidolons that allowed it. Super useful for mara struck
It would be interesting to see you invest on a DoT or follow up team just for a breath of fresh air. Doesn't matter if it's in your main or second account
good list mr tashed pls do more with each coming patch pls
Running Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Huo Huo. It slaps!
For those who lost the ruan mei 50/50 (me 😢 to bronya so not a loss) black swan, Kafka, asta, and Natasha works insanely good! I do use someone’s ruan mei as support for farming lol
As an F2P
I got Kafka bc of hype that time
I got Huo Huo bc I lost to Silverwolf and I thought oh she's cute, why not?
Got Ruan on 20 pulls on accident
Got Black Swan bc everyone said to me that I have a good team for DOT 😂
Also, I have DHIL & Jing Yuan and they told me to pull for Sparkle for my second team so I did 😂
The only problem is I don't own any of their 5* lightcones 🥺
@@FrameTactics I have DHL with his lightcone, but he's the only one I have with a signature LC, oh I have Welts as well, but on Kafka.
This is also my go-to team. The damage this team does honestly might rival any other team in the game.
Honestly i think ruan mei is the best unit in the game she enables any team dot, crit, hypercarry, dual dps in everything she's just too crazy
I would put DOT characters on S tier assuming you run them with Kafka. If not, then A tier.
The only downside with DOT characters is that they are very high investment due to them working best when there's at least 2 of them on the team (plus scaling on their traces is pretty big). BUT, that high investment usually reaps huge rewards in terms of being able to deal huge damage.
Plus, unlike traditional DPS who use crit rate/dmg and ATK, DOT units only want ATK and EHR which is 1 stat less to worry about. This makes them easier in terms of farming for good relics.
Cook
Just started playing this patch seems like a good time to start
Hello! New player here. Recently played last Monday (no experience with Genshin either). Was wondering what the difference is with Pure Fiction and Memory of Chaos? Current TB lvl is 32. Also, any advice for my line up? Currently with Jing Yuan, Dr. Ratio, Bronya and Gepard (All Lvl50). Thankyou in advance for the help.
In my opinion, luocha is excellent for newbie and for not fully built team(weak) or some players that don't know how to play a team with a complex healer like huohuo😅 , while huohuo is an excellent for you when you need the final form of that team , the strongest option to 0 or very few cycles , the unit that you need to maximize your damage
That thumbnail face just gets me every time. IRL troll face perfected
I think Geopard is in a good spot cuz besides the shields on his ult he also has a high chance of freezing a non broken enemy. However now that we know what Aventurine can do based on his perspective quest he is clearly a much better shielder that Geopard as he has a shield readily available on his skill and his follow up attack that occurs after anyone with his shield is attacked grants additional shield after the attack triggers and he can get multiple stacks in one turn even with multi hitting AOE attacks and he also puts effect res up as well with the shield. With this Aventurine could give the team infinite shields in the right scenarios and is better at keeping the turn flow of a team in motion. Also Aventurine and Himiko work well together since Aventurine can gain more stacks for his follow up attack to trigger sooner.
nice cut g
edit: dont sleep on dot characters, they are extremely powrful especially with ruan mei. The only 5 star youll ever need is kafka and the 4 stars is pretty solid. But im hoping that along the way 5 star dots become more powerful and crazy. BS is a clear example of how her kit is very broken.
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
Huohuo is SS with the release of Sparkle. The two of them makes really good synergy and add Tingyun makes the team SP and Energy overloaded.
What are people's opinions on March? I feel like she's underrated. She can cleanse, pretty decent at weakness break, and instant freeze from her ult.
Hi I have never played the game and was wondering if this was a good time to start please.
Also if you have any good videos/information to share with me regarding Honkai star rail I am interested! 😅
Luka can also debuff target with his skill , he also lowers enemy resistance with his ult by same amount i believe as pela but single target but makes up for it with getting a enhanced basic atk , and can bleed units
luocha can heal in turn, off turn, talent (SO MUCH) , dispell buffs , cleanse , scales of ATK, i feel you undermestimate luocha he is still pretty solid
he's good but out of all limited 5 star abundance and preservation he's the worst.
The buffs that the other limited abundance and preservation units (huohuo and fu Xuan) provide in addition to their sustain is simply just more valuable than just sustaining
But he's not unique , the others can do their job excellent, luocha can do most things but just average (his ulti with some oldbies might be not useful bc in my experience the boss buff won't be a problem when you can clean them for good), you have 4 slot , so you need some units that excellent at their job
As someone who primarily plays DoT teams and have from the beginning, I can tell this list is gonna be…..interesting.
even tho i some pretty good units with many or max eidolons on every good 4 star character, i fucked up really bad since release, i really regret pulling for some units and wasting so much resources on useless relics or character i don't use at all, i'm right now on my first reroll account and this time i will use the knowledge i have and the knowledge u and other guide makers have, to make this account as viable as possible ... ^^
Ngl I feel like Gepard is under-appreciated. Like yeah he has no cleanse but if he's the only one getting cc'ed because of his high aggro (which gets even higher with his LC) then it doesn't really matter. Also his shields when you build him enough, can last enough for him to keep it permanently active on the team. Not to mention while yeah he only shields (and freeze if you use his skill a lot) the shield is so helpful in cases like fighting against the witch that reduces your hp by turning a portion of it to gray (like what's that gonna do if she can't even touch your hp bar because of his thick ass shield) but from my experience? I had the best time with him right now when fighting against Sam the new boss. Sam has a mechanic that reduces a person hp when they use a burning skill point. And if you use Gepard for that stage, yeah having to think about who should sacrifice their hp goes out the window cause again, even if you get like 1 hp left, his thick ass shield is enough to tank Sam's shenanigans. So yeah, Geppie definitely deserves some love
My problem with gepard is his shield duration tied to other unit's turn. I really like my DPS to be either high speed or carried by fast bronya/sparkle. The shield on my DPS is expired too fast for gepard to keep up. If only the shield is tied to gepard's turn, it will be much much better.
@@plutoadmirer9904 yup if you use fast units like Seele or Sushang, or use Supports with action advancement like Sparkle or Bronya, the shield expires very quickly, but if you use units with normal speed (like 134) the shield lasts for a long enough to time to have 100% uptime
@@Miku-Izayoi yup. But I used jingliu, or other DPS with bronya/ sparkle the most in moc so he can't keep up. The only time I use him is when I play Dr ratio that doesn't use action advancement. And he blocked me from getting Kafka, topaz, and black swan, so my opinion is biased because of my resentment lol. As e3s1 gepard haver, I despise gepard lol.
Bro couldn't wait for TH-cam to load the video in 1080p before releasing the video.
With the current meta, there's a lot more value in speed and clearing content in the least amount of rounds as possible. So a character like Gepard loses a lot of points since other than shielding, he doesn't provide much besides delaying an enemies turn, and in some cases it's actually preferable for enemies to not be slowed because when you get hit you at least get energy. That's what makes Fu Xuan a far better tank.
lmao the amount of bias in this video is crazy ... love the content
Best tierlist i ever See exatly my opinion
Huo Huo > Fu Xuan
Fu Xuan is for those with skill issues and I am one of them
Tashman Knowledge up, video quality down🔥
Mashed is very entertaining but I'm not so sure about his knowledge when it comes to builds and comps 😅
@@awatcher4965”Mashed” is crazy💀. Call his ahh mashed potatoes 😭
@@awatcher4965 nah he's actually much better than average, but not theorycrafter level. Compare this list with an average star rail player and it's actually fairly accurate besides the dot stuff (which he admits he doesnt play). He was definitely off on some units but it's not a terrible list
@@Qdawwg If you consider the average player being super casual and not even knowing what the different paths are for, playing quad sustain comps because they don't care about anything else besides pulling characters they think are hot, he is definitely one of the better poeple out there if you exclude theorycrafters. At least he is open and honest about not knowing where to place units because he doesn't own them or hasn't had the chance to test them
@@gvapaneseLMAO on God
You should really check out topaz. I run her in any team with decent relics and she’s slapping 40-100k per turn with numbys hits too.
Love the thumbnail 😂
Would Fu Xuan or Sparkle be more valuable to my account? (Only sustainer I have is Fire mc. I do have Ruan mei)
Get both
I'm a new player and my teams badly needs for sustain units. I heard aventurine, loucha/fu xuan rerun will be featured in 2.1, so I need advice which among these should I pull 🥹
16:05 "Jing Yuan's got a massive bust" - Mtashed 2024
I feel like while JL was the #1 DPS before sparkle's release, DHIL has taken his crown again (just for this half patch and then we get more crazy DPS)
However- neither DHIL nor Jingliu should be in the SS tier. They should be high S at most. DHIL and Jingliu are not characters you should pull that open up "more teams" for you to use. With *Sparkle, Ruan Mei, Fu Xuan, and Kafka*, they can bring C and D tier units all the way up to S tier purely on their amplification alone. (Kafka is a bit of a weirder case, but her being a DOT detonator goes crazy)
If you have 2 out of those 4 units, your account should be able to clear MOC and PF with a few good relics on pretty much any of the limited DPS characters, or in Kafka's case, any of the DOT characters depending on weakness. DHIL and JL are good characters, and the best DPS we have in the game currently, but neither of them are game changing in the same way those four are.
I agree with DHIL and JL both being at S. They are very good and the best DPSes but people make the gap between the limited DPSes seem bigger than it actually is. At low investment you’ll notice JL being better but at mid-high investment you’ll notice DHIL being better and other limited DPSes being just slightly worse if not equal. People just exaggerate the OPness of them when it’s the supports that make them great. Kafka is definitely a weird case though. She’s definitely required for the DoT archetype but she alone isn’t enough to make it great. You’ll want Ruan Mei and a 5 star DoT DPS(Black Swan right now but there could be others later on) to make the archetype really good otherwise it’s just meh with 4 stars in my experience(and just worse than even hypercarries with 4 star supports). You can’t use just pull Kafka and assume she’ll make DoT S tier the same way you can pull Ruan Mei or Sparkle and make a DPS S tier so while she’s definitely the cornerstone of DoT teams she isn’t on the same level as supports or even necessary to your account unless you want to play DoT teams. I’d still rank her with other DPSes tbh.
Why did i think he was doing Gojo's domain expansion in the thumbnail lol
Nihility DoT teams are my absolute favorite. Tashman is missing out.
have you tried 161 speed geppy? he on par with most sustains at that speed value.
DHIL with hanya is already crushing everything for me, if I got sparkle He'll be even crazier. 🤞
Get sparkle
@@Azuraichii The problem is I'm out of pulls already, I'm scavanging everything right now and hoping I'll win the 50/50 lol.
@@jsuwangsagood luck my friend, hope you get her!! 🍀
Welt works great in a sub-dps role with a team that is not skill point hungry since you will want to use his skill all the time, in my account he is great with blade and bronya, especially in Swarm.
I just went for Silver Wolf to use her with my Dr. Ratio, but now I love her
"Jing Yuan has a massive bust"
*Sighs*
*Looks at comment section*
Playing for just over a month.... And I only need Fu Xuan and Jingliu now to complete that SS tier. (Btw, also have Black Swan)
build pity on ratio and dang heng banner both got E1 of their counterparts. Parts of my mind still thinking , if i build pity on kafka and black swan banner instead i might get new brand team to play instead of just one eidoleons for existing characters but oh well, luck might not give me a W if i decide to pull otherwise anyway.
how much does he value PF? some units are very good in moc but shit in PF but others are balanced in both and vice versa.
the actual video begins at: 2:52
Your welcome.
I still don't know if I should pull for HuoHuo on her rerun when I already have Luocha and Fu Xuan.. (also planning to get Aventurine)
Jing yuan is so fun to play, you should try him. Lightning dude goes brbrbrbr
Luocha can strip buffs to with his ultimate. As a Seele owner whjo build and used her from the start Mr. Mtash was right about QQ. QQ profitated more then Seele from Sparkle. QQ is realy strong now and above Seele.
I’m at the start and you saying Blade should be higher tells me you know how much he is underrated 😂. Blade is an absolute beast
Luka skill removes buffs from enemies if you get his trace ability and adds bleed.
Pela removes buff on skill and that is it.
Both are great units.
Still waiting for that soup tier list you promised
Dhil is better than jingliu
with sparkle yes
True
It’s honestly wild he doesn’t build a DoT team. In January and February I pulled Ruan Mei, Kafka and Black Swan back to back to back and now one side of my MOC is completely on lock. If it goes past two cycles it’s user error. They’re so cracked it’s insane
I lost sparkle's 50/50 to e1 bronya 😭
But on the bright side, I can guarantee Acheron or aventurine. I can guarantee Acheron if I can get an early (happened to me with kafka rerun) or if the first half events give a lot stellar jades. Aventurine is guaranteed for me no matter what (in the situation that I don't get Acheron)
@@brownbrown3882 uhh...
I usually just buy a gold ticket whenever I get 20 of those.....
Plus while DoT is not as flashy as hyper DPS, BS and Kafka putting all kind of DoTand then enemy got a turn and they exploded is so much fun and satisfying to see lol, Plus they don't need crazy substat like CRate and CDamage, Just atk, speed and EHR and you're ready to go.
I just started yesterday is this tier list still relevant?
Kafka s+ damn straight. I got her and black swan on a team and run mei or sampo or both of I can get away with no sustain. It's broken man
ok but why do we consider dhil and jing yuan with sparkle buffs but we don't do that for seele, if we count supports she is definitely above the frauds with sparkle (and silver wolf off element)
The accessibility factor definitely makes a difference.
I agree with RM being over sparkle.
RM is so universal and her value doesn’t go down at all.
I can’t see her being power crept unless someone does exactly what she does, but better.
When it comes to sparkle she’s good in a lot of teams, but I feel like she was clearly made for certain teams ( mono quantum and DHIL)
I've heard HuoHuo isn't even SP positive unless you have E1. While Luocha is stupidly positive correct?
But she gives so much more buff and she is so neutral if you have trouble with skill point just pull sparkle
@@JJ-mn3nd oh I have her. But I'd rather have FX and then Luocha for DHIL cause I don't play DoT so Huohuo would be my least desirable sustain.
Huohuo can be played SP positive, similar to Fu Xuan (EAA). You don't have to keep her stacks up to sustain the team.
Luocha is sp generator as you literally dont need to spend a single SP(remember, using 1 skill means +0 sp within 2 turn. While if we keep basic means +2 sp) to keep team alive. He also imaginary breaker, something that people doesnt really apreciated because its indeed as minor as his ult that removes all enemies buff.
Personally i dont have FU so i cant say much about her, but Luocha just fill his role as sustain good enough for me to clear all content as of right now. Also im using Quid pro quo on him so yeah can get some nice juice random energy for the team.
While Huohuo not as SP positive like Luocha but she has buff capability that you might love. The less you need sp in your team the better she get. And endgame i mean 0 turn people sure love her
Great vid tashed man, i definitely see why you placed certain characters in their respective grades. However, imo, I feel like the only character that I had somewhat of an issue with was DHIL. Dont get me wrong, hes a very strong unit- but his playstyle and kit is very limiting for many team comps that would potentially hinder a lot of new players/players with limited characters. I feel like his playstyle and limitations would put him in high S tier- just due to his overwhelming strength and specificity in team composition. Just my 2 cents (i know this tier list isnt end all be all), but asides from that- great video as always!
Until aventurine gambles out his victory as a sustainer
As i said before in other videos such as this i think Dan Heng IL and Jing Yuan should have the synergie icon on them. Without Sparkle their performance didn't improve from before and not everyone has the luxury to pull and actually get a premium 5*.
I'm a Imbibitor lunae main, so for the meta I should try to get Sparkle, but I'm poor and have been waiting for Fu Xuan return, and I also want Archeron... so Even if I should, I can't spend my money on a character Sparkle...
Skip Acheron bro, she needs SW and Pela at e0. Get Sparkle if you can, but guarantee Fu Xuan.
I would say DHIL over Jingliu now
As a new player who picked up dhil and sparkle I'm eating good. I put my Dr ratio artifacts on dhil and he's hitting easily more than 2x ratio.
agreed
imo both tingyun and pela should be ss. both are 4 stars that are quite easy to get, and can even be guaranteed from the monthly shop. both give insane buffs, on par or even surpassing 5 stars of the same niche (tingyun energy generation can be more useful than sparkle's buffs and pela has aoe def shred, something that silver wolf doesnt. additionally, pela's ult is extremely easy to keep up, with 2 turn ultimates given you have the 1.1 light cone, meanwhile silver wolf has a 3 turn ult rotation which makes it harder to get all your debuffs applied).