I thought I did, But Romero does such a great job of integrating them with GTO theory and practice that it feels like I might finally be able to apply them effectively. Excellent player, excellent teacher. Glad he is with the team.
I have increased my river bluffing frequency with hands like K7 suited when 78 is the nuts, I didn’t think that would work against low level players but it does
21:20 If you have A 10 in this spot it would not be a good hero call because it is less likely the opponent has a bluff because lots of their bluffs contain a 10. So for every combo that the opponent has that contains a 10, there is only 12 instead of 16 making it less likely he is buffing and making something like KQ a better call as A 10 and KQ have the same relative hand strength but KQ has better blocking effects as it unblocks his bluffs.
Quick question - if the guy in the 99s hand raised half pot on the river and not shove... are you folding anyway? whats the maximum you're calling if/when they bet
Teaching/Training is HARD. I know, I have been a technical teacher/trainer for 40 years. There are courses you can take to help you become a better teacher. I used to teach a course that was called "Train the Trainer" where I taught people who were very advanced in their technical knowledge but lacked the tools to convey information in a meaningful way. The subject matter is truly immaterial, its understanding how Humans learn, that's really the key. Conveying the information in more than a single way is crucial. I got something out of the video, but it was painful while it should of been enjoyable. This comment is meant to HELP, I hope it's taken that way.
Thanks for the comment. It actually backs my view that most poker coaching is a scam, including this nonsense of a coaching video. I’ve played poker for 23 years, always try to get better and help younger players. Poker isn’t math. Math is a part of poker. No one has a lock on what’s correct. It’s a game of incomplete info. So it’s easy to scam as a coach. I know what to do, I’m a winner 🏆. Listen to me, I have math. Most fools will pay to get the golden ticket to WIN. I have it for you and pay me for it.
So....are the calculations are only valid when they play A6s and not K6s. AA with A clubs is worth infinitely more because Kx has been taken out of their range, or the solver has. Is that realistic? I am sure that in the games I play, they have many flushes apart from Ax clubs, therefore, the EV calculation is not correct in those games, and if they are this wrong on this calculation, then how about the others? What am I supposed to lean from such data? I am not sure.
This is Game Theory Optimal (GTO) data, which assumes all players at the table play by the same GTO standards. Of course in reality nobody plays perfect GTO, not even the top pros, it's so hard to make such accurate plays constantly, within the time limitations of an actual game. More so, recreational players tend to be total deviations from GTO, in many various ways. So here comes the exploitative part of poker, in which you try to identify whatever it is that your opponents do wrong and adapt your plays accordingly. GTO is a strong fundamental guideline from which you should deviate depending on your opponents.
how are you supposed to accurately predict what percentage of pocket pairs he raises with or flats with? Even if you watch, you have to do it with all players at the table. And then you need to see their hand most of the time. Not saying it’s impossible, but am I missing something? It seems like an ungodly amount of data to have to track at once
Learning and playing poker is a matter of progression. Once you have the basics down, you start adding other strategies to your thought process. You can't do everything at once.
Tiny pocket pairs have practically zero value outside of set mining and jamming pre with a sub 10BB stack depth in tournaments (and even when jamming shallow in tournaments, all you can hope for is to be a tiny favorite in a flip and to win the flip rather than being crushed against a bigger pocket pair when the chips go in). There may be the occasional rare board/runout when heads up where any pair is likely good given what your opponent’s range is going to look like, but outside of those rare occasions, if you don’t flop a set, even if you feel like your opponent may just be drawing, it’s still a -EV play to proceed beyond the flop without the set. Even smaller suited connectors play much better postflop and give a tighter player more board coverage to use their tight image to get semi bluffs through when flopping front door draws.
@@mikezilberbrand1663 you’re talking about the odds of flopping a hand as big of a set. Yes, the odds are only 1 in 8. Do you know what board coverage means? It means even smaller suited connectors are going to interact much better with a much higher percent of all the possible flops than tiny pocket pairs, even if it’s just flopping a front door draw. This means that a much higher percent than 12% of the time, smaller suited connectors will at least give a tighter player a decent draw, and tight players may then exploit their image to get semi bluffs through in a lot of those spots, as to where if you miss your set on the flop with a tiny pocket pair, you are pretty much never supposed to proceed against a bet, even if you feel like it’s likely just a draw for your opponent, as it would a negative EV play.
I watched Jason get taken to value town in a tournament at The Venetian. The villain turned broadway with Queen 10 off and donk bet $50,000 on the river. After tanking, Jason put in the call 😫 Brutal spot
How can you say that 999 is worth nothing when it's a better hand as a set than AA. 3 of a kind beats a pair. Who gives a f*** about blockers if your hand is a loser.
Here's the logic to understand: 6 combos of pocket Aces because, 3*4=12, but half of those combinations are redundant and identical to each other, because for e.g. Ace spades (left card) + Ace of diamonds (right card) = Ace of diamonds (left card) + Ace of spades (right card). Therefore we divide 12 by 2
Did you know about combinatorics in poker before watching this video? 🤔
Yes, but within the first 30 seconds James shows that I've underestimated it's importance.
Great material. Thank you, Jonathan and James!
Used to teach it...
I thought I did, But Romero does such a great job of integrating them with GTO theory and practice that it feels like I might finally be able to apply them effectively. Excellent player, excellent teacher. Glad he is with the team.
This one was an eye opener, thanks for the content Jonathan!
T5s is a great pre-flop 3-bet bluff because every straight has either a T or a 5 in them - Phil Galfond. mindblown.
J4 are the best blockers
It has to be offsuit and you have to return the money.😆😆😆
Excellent video. Simplifies combinatorics and puts it to real use. Reading this in books in one thing, watching a successful MTT crusher is another.
I have increased my river bluffing frequency with hands like K7 suited when 78 is the nuts, I didn’t think that would work against low level players but it does
Nice one James, Jonathan & Poker coaching. Thanks 🙏🏻
Our pleasure!
Love this guys! Combinatorics is such an over looked way to improve your poker game.
It really is!
21:20 If you have A 10 in this spot it would not be a good hero call because it is less likely the opponent has a bluff because lots of their bluffs contain a 10. So for every combo that the opponent has that contains a 10, there is only 12 instead of 16 making it less likely he is buffing and making something like KQ a better call as A 10 and KQ have the same relative hand strength but KQ has better blocking effects as it unblocks his bluffs.
The Counting combos example is from James sweeny AKA splitsuit🙊
Quick question - if the guy in the 99s hand raised half pot on the river and not shove... are you folding anyway? whats the maximum you're calling if/when they bet
James Romero explains things so clearly; great and very helpful video thank you
Great video. Thank you 😊
You're welcome!
Teaching/Training is HARD. I know, I have been a technical teacher/trainer for 40 years. There are courses you can take to help you become a better teacher. I used to teach a course that was called "Train the Trainer" where I taught people who were very advanced in their technical knowledge but lacked the tools to convey information in a meaningful way. The subject matter is truly immaterial, its understanding how Humans learn, that's really the key. Conveying the information in more than a single way is crucial. I got something out of the video, but it was painful while it should of been enjoyable. This comment is meant to HELP, I hope it's taken that way.
Thanks for the comment. It actually backs my view that most poker coaching is a scam, including this nonsense of a coaching video. I’ve played poker for 23 years, always try to get better and help younger players. Poker isn’t math. Math is a part of poker. No one has a lock on what’s correct. It’s a game of incomplete info. So it’s easy to scam as a coach. I know what to do, I’m a winner 🏆. Listen to me, I have math. Most fools will pay to get the golden ticket to WIN. I have it for you and pay me for it.
So....are the calculations are only valid when they play A6s and not K6s.
AA with A clubs is worth infinitely more because Kx has been taken out of their range, or the solver has.
Is that realistic?
I am sure that in the games I play, they have many flushes apart from Ax clubs, therefore, the EV calculation is not correct in those games, and if they are this wrong on this calculation, then how about the others?
What am I supposed to lean from such data? I am not sure.
This is Game Theory Optimal (GTO) data, which assumes all players at the table play by the same GTO standards. Of course in reality nobody plays perfect GTO, not even the top pros, it's so hard to make such accurate plays constantly, within the time limitations of an actual game. More so, recreational players tend to be total deviations from GTO, in many various ways. So here comes the exploitative part of poker, in which you try to identify whatever it is that your opponents do wrong and adapt your plays accordingly. GTO is a strong fundamental guideline from which you should deviate depending on your opponents.
how are you supposed to accurately predict what percentage of pocket pairs he raises with or flats with? Even if you watch, you have to do it with all players at the table. And then you need to see their hand most of the time. Not saying it’s impossible, but am I missing something? It seems like an ungodly amount of data to have to track at once
Learning and playing poker is a matter of progression. Once you have the basics down, you start adding other strategies to your thought process. You can't do everything at once.
why is c-bet almost 100% when MMM pair bords are c-bet with a lower frequency than a lot of other bords?
*combinatorics
This is the only thing I know about the topic that James doesn't 😂
😀
Why do you assume that a tight player is likely to play 45s, but not 33?
Tiny pocket pairs have practically zero value outside of set mining and jamming pre with a sub 10BB stack depth in tournaments (and even when jamming shallow in tournaments, all you can hope for is to be a tiny favorite in a flip and to win the flip rather than being crushed against a bigger pocket pair when the chips go in). There may be the occasional rare board/runout when heads up where any pair is likely good given what your opponent’s range is going to look like, but outside of those rare occasions, if you don’t flop a set, even if you feel like your opponent may just be drawing, it’s still a -EV play to proceed beyond the flop without the set. Even smaller suited connectors play much better postflop and give a tighter player more board coverage to use their tight image to get semi bluffs through when flopping front door draws.
@@jaredcarrick3468 set mining has 12% probability of success on the flop, 45s does not.
@@mikezilberbrand1663 you’re talking about the odds of flopping a hand as big of a set. Yes, the odds are only 1 in 8. Do you know what board coverage means? It means even smaller suited connectors are going to interact much better with a much higher percent of all the possible flops than tiny pocket pairs, even if it’s just flopping a front door draw. This means that a much higher percent than 12% of the time, smaller suited connectors will at least give a tighter player a decent draw, and tight players may then exploit their image to get semi bluffs through in a lot of those spots, as to where if you miss your set on the flop with a tiny pocket pair, you are pretty much never supposed to proceed against a bet, even if you feel like it’s likely just a draw for your opponent, as it would a negative EV play.
@@jaredcarrick3468 12.75% is the probability, odds 14.6% = 1/7.
Yep that's what I said
I watched Jason get taken to value town in a tournament at The Venetian. The villain turned broadway with Queen 10 off and donk bet $50,000 on the river. After tanking, Jason put in the call 😫
Brutal spot
💯💯💯
A spades can be matched with A diamonds A clubs A hearts twice?! Really?!
Watching the whole thing but 12 minutes in this is basic AF
How can you say that 999 is worth nothing when it's a better hand as a set than AA. 3 of a kind beats a pair. Who gives a f*** about blockers if your hand is a loser.
This is why GTO is overrated garbage
exactly...what thw f is this: lol
Here's the logic to understand: 6 combos of pocket Aces because, 3*4=12, but half of those combinations are redundant and identical to each other, because for e.g. Ace spades (left card) + Ace of diamonds (right card) = Ace of diamonds (left card) + Ace of spades (right card). Therefore we divide 12 by 2