FLASH! 🇰🇷 (T) vs Larva!!! 🇰🇷 (Z) on Fighting Spirit - StarCraft - Brood War
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0:50
Larva: ‘Hyungnim’,
theres talk going around saying Tae Kyong ‘hyung’ (BISU) has come,
*is this true? (typo*)
Flash: yes,
yes,
He is here
0:57 Larva: wow,
*keyboard spam*
1:06 Flash: Hey/Oi,
Why you acting friendly
Larva: Yes/Sorry? ;; (; is a sign for nervous/awkward pause in written conversation)
Flash: You are already friends
with Tae Kyong ‘hyung’
1:18: Yes..
….
Flash: Youre not upset again are you?
Larva: Oh, *eyy* (common expression made usually before a followup, such as before ‘nah’ or ‘of course’) hyung when Tae Kyong hyung left I even sent a message *emoticon*
1:56
Larva: Hyungnim
Is it okay??? if I win
I am going to show Tae Kyong hyung
Flash: Thats why I gave an announcement, I said Ill take on a noob and come back 1
no not a noob
Larva: ???
Flash: I said Ill eat red ginseng and come back (noob and red ginseng in Korean is written a little similar but not that much)
Larva: Oh..
3:27 not sure what he is saying 100% accurately but along the lines of “I was anticipating a 1-1-1 build”
Larva: Oh
111 (the build?) selecting *typo*
built til now
From the conversation it is apparent that Flash is older than Larva and Larva’s dialogue reflects as he is showing respect. Bisu is older than the two.
Hyung is a masculine term for older male and literally translate to older brother. It is commonly used among siblings, friend groups with age differences (you tend to hang around people your own birth year) and cousins.
Hyungnim is sort of outdated and used more by the older generation, usually senior and middle aged men, among in-laws and widely in the mob, where it could refer to a superior and not necessarily someone elder
thank you Falcon Paladin for the constant Brood War casts
i love Larva's style so chaotic and agressive!
It’s also doing SoulKey)
@@АндрейМилошевич correct! Their games feels like full scale war rather than skirmishes and knife fights.
I've been watching a lot of brood war games recently and the more i watch the more i am grateful that SC2 balanced zerg so much better. because brood war zerg is totally overpowered.
@@Ryzot nah not really, hes just a very good player..
@@SmoKKz0r exactly
Korean translation:
Larva: Hey are you going to share demo publicly?
Flash: Yes
Larva: So Falcon Paladin can cast our game?
Flash: Yes
Larva: Cool, let's keep talking so he definitely asks someone to translate Korean
Flash: Sure, I bet he even pins the comment with the translation in hist cast
Larva: Yeah and I bet someone who is going to translate it does not even speak Korean
HAHAHAHA :D
Watching Larva play is like the true Zerg swarm. This literally looked like the campaign mission where human Kerrigan was first overrun and captured. 👀
2:14 I like that it's not just the squares when viewing their conversation. Right here when it's above the land tiles makes it easy to see.
All these matches Flash vs Larva looks like a training matches for Larva. Flash is playing same way every time (with 2-3 BCs attacks in mid/late game) and he is doing basic mistakes
Once you see Flash’s science vessel getting obliterated, that pretty much means he bout to lose lol
Didn’t expect Flash to lose😢where are his tanks? I think he was too over confident by using Marine and medics only. Without Tanks and vultures, it is very difficult to encounter with Ultralisks and Defilers.
He intended to go straight to battle cruiser, it'll be lack of resources if he expands to the tanks
If players continue to send 1 or 2 battlecruisers without escort against enemy base (they are just donating them to scourge) instead of using them as a part of combined marine-sv force to guard bases or soften ultras, they are wasting resources spent on making them and will never break "the battlecruiser curse"
Unless if I just don't understand the greater strategy behind donating battlecruisers to scourges for minimal damage dealt, someone please explain
Flash was probably experimenting.
Yeah I'd say it's a bad move overall and I don't understand the logic either. Vessels should be moving with those BCs using D matrix on them. 2 BCs is also not critical mass, you don't see protoss attack Terrans with 2 carriers.
18:35 that SCV probably killed an Ultra.
There was that Ample vs Queen game with the Battle Cruisers as well. They didn’t win the game but Ample was beast mode in it I remember
That scv drill to the ramp o.O
Nice win for Larva. And a valuable one, as Flash is NOT easy to take on, even today.
22:28 lol nice save
Killer move for sure!
Definitely an action packed replay. Could use an epic tag,
what a chaotic brutal game! METAL GUTS !
They also might have mentioned something about the news with Taek-Yong hyung and if it's true.
I bet fluffy little Cinnamon loooooved this game!
She did! :D
Hard to beat doing zero tanks.
Larva seems to have improved himself.
Hello! I notice you often dont look at the map and miss some important moments. Like in 15:20 - did you notice these battlecruisers? You missed the moment they fight with Larva. I think Larva destroyed them with lot of Scourges (you can deduct that from the movement of units on the map). This is my tip for you - please look more often whats going on on the map, because in almost every cast you make this mistake. You should look at the map like at mirrors in the car, even if it seem that nothing is going on, take a look for half a second every 10 seconds. Best regards
Breh. Seriously...
This is Falcon's trademark.
Notoriously missing some important moments in battles. Specially if he found a bird 😂😂😂
Thanks Damian very cool!
damn ur so good at it why dont u record them while casting at the same time and miss 0 things?
7:37 ...terran what are you saying before terran falcon? sk,esque Ive heard this before and I never knew what it means
SK terran. Soulkey terran. bio + science vessels.
@@RJB_TV Oooooh thanks RJB - awesome replays you got
@@RJB_TV It took me forever to get this. I thought it was a build order or something.
This was epic,thanks
No problem! :)
I was today years old when I realize that zerglings have duck legs
15:21 Random battlecruisers
1:59 Google lens says the long sentence says: "But are you okay?? I win" from Larva... I'll try to get some more context for us 😂
Zerglings are relentless!!
Larva was playing as his ass off!!!!
Larvas micro looking a lot better here
Awesome match
RJB = GOAT. Thank you
ty
15:00 so I'm going to have to bet on Larva winning this. Right now Flash is building BCs when he should probably be building tanks instead with the supply count this high.
Larva has Ultralisks coming of course but those SVs are about to take a beating with that sick PLAGUUUE!
Science vessels did not save Flash. Doubt they would have, either.
For the algorithm
Can we get a translate on that beginning game banter 😮
GG!
What does terran have to counter darkswarm? Firebats?
Firebats siege tank in siege mode and science vessel killing defilers. Losing too many vessels usually means game over.
Firebats deal very low dmg to high-armor ultras but are very good against lings.
Move
Critical mass of siege tanks, spider mines. Firebats are awesome if the zerg lacks the gas for ultras but otherwise do very little. The defilers are pretty tough with 80hp 1 armor base but a single siege tank with 2 attack upgrades will splatter it in a single shot so there's something to be said for microing the tanks and hitting them before they can even cast a swarm. A big part of beating ultra/ling/defiler is keeping the defilers irradiated too. Easier said than done against someone like larva though he makes defilers look easy to use.
@@Ziegfried82 I wasn't joking about move.
One thing I have noticed is when Flash off-races as Zerg against Terran he almost always goes queens and ensnare. He does this especially if he is up against SK Terran.
Dont see high level zerg do this but Flash does it. Why? My theory is that meta is built around the "average" pro. Whats best against the average pro probably is not what is best against the best pro.
Analogy zone defense in football. Zone is the most commonly used defense in the NFL. But if you paly zone against Brady he is going to wreck you.
Flash understands that what messes him up the most is ensnare because he loses the ability to retreat from bad exchanges.
SK Terran is like a mobility class in an MMO nothing messes them up more than slows.
That was soo good game!
I see Firebats and I click.
FLASH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRO.... are YOU SURE... HE DOESN'T even know that he can radiate his science vessel and run them around the zerg mineral lines and kill them!!!
Damn!
Go owls!
I still don't understand how dark swarm is even balanced, it's like full invulnerability for an area of Zerg for what, 20 seconds? Like there's no way around it
It's not that strong vs protoss due to storm and reaver scarabs..but vs terran it's incredibly strong unless the terran has a critical mass of siege tanks. Battlecruisers are literally useless against it other than yamato cannon on the ultras (yamato goes thru dark swarm). Without dark swarm zerg could not fight terran at all though and really if it wasn't for consume zerg players would really struggle even with swarm due to not enough energy.
So are you goin to say zerg op just like in sc2?
Larva is verygood zerg player
While jaedong is overconfident and overidiott using d same tactics
HAY GUSY LOL ;D
Battle cruiser agains zerg? I understand, if you fight versus protoss, but zerg? Big mistake 😂
Wow rare loss for Flash and his record on the channel is now 62-22
Is the flash still the goat?
@@westside9032 of course!
there was 2 battlecruisers but u didnt show them! you are getting older i think...
it's always the zerg winning
needed tanks not bcs
Flash wood of won
bobo
Yay Zerg won against Terran.
Correction The Terran.
We have we have been blessed by having so many legendary zerg players in bw. Larva is top 5, if not top 3 zerg goats. What a good game!
I'm a little behind the times, but seemed like last couple years he may have been arguably best zerg in the world, maybe even better than Soulkey. Jaedong was retired?
Bravo Larva bravo
Here's a like for Terry, rip buddy 6:22
🫡
Boy, what a match. I really thought for a minute Flash had the game in the bag!
Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina! Love your casts, Falcon!
Gracias! :)
@@FalconPaladin Hello Ive posted the translations
Epic defense of the bridge at 16:50. I recommend it in video with epic moments.
Cattle Bruiser Curse
The amount of attacks Larva does is completely insane.
Epic tag!!! Anytime Flash loses a 30min game it should get an epic tag.
lol that Scv at the ramp blocking an ultralisk, can't say flash didn't use mech
bravo good sirs, you found the falcon.
As a 40 year old guy, with apm now probably not more than 120 i realize where im i compared to this guyz but, what is the reason +1W early on marines. Mutas? Once uponA time, we have done +1A on marines on 6th 7th minute, and push zerg. Most of the games is a win, early lurkes are washed away eazy for the reason of 3rd hit(19-19), sunkens too are quite different with the uneven hits. I saw this guy sitting and waiting for +1A, just to realize there are 5 lurks on 2 holes.
15:40 Watching the two blue blips (the battle-cruisers) on the south east part of the minimap disappearing is just so sad to watch. I have such a soft spot for Battle Cruisers lol
It seems like top level terran players don't know how to use BCs or something. They always send them without any sort of vessel escort for D matrix..no marine support either. BCs are extremely expensive units to just throw away like that! Maybe they have some arcane reason for using them in this manner but it looks terrible to me.
I swear I may hire a Fever oil painter to reproduce this Ultras thumbnail and maybe make it in a Renaissance painting style
nice!
Larvaaaaaa!
What about pauly the probe? Like paul?😅
Blblblbloooarrrblblbl indeed, Terry
Sick game 😊
24:23 That was a....m......a......z.....i......n.......g... . :)))
Glad you enjoyed it!
"la hatchery dé macro" arrrrg sounds more like spanish than french :D
in french we'd say, hmm... (actualy we say macro hatch too)... that'd be "macro couveuse" ? "multi couveuse" ?
It seems like a little bit of smack talk between the two, Larva is saying something to the effect of the zerg are quick and flash is retorting with questions like "why are you pretending to be so close?"
That's what I was translating with google lens.
No Tank and wasting money for BC... GG.
and lost a lot of science vessels to scourge.
9:46 😮 "Lurker Spine Slaughter was very effective!" WOOF what a way to start the scrap at the 10 minute mark! 😂
Some of my favorite dudes… Flash vs Larva! Sigh. TY RJB and Falcon!
Nice video Falcon, love your channel
Hell of a makro zerg done.
We need a Piper the Prope
Good game
I’ve never seen Flash lose, kinda ruined my day 😂
There's a Flash Playlist here on my channel. A few losses in there, too ;) th-cam.com/play/PLKliGNeDvWOSexTFs0_0PhGPNkjkiZlBV.html
paul the probe!!! just a suggestion
Anyone who thinks probes aren't S Tier have never had one in their base 1min into the game.