Cub Cadet lawn tractor won't start - Electrical Fix
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- It's that time of year again. Winter hibernation is over for the good old Cub Cadet 2086 lawn tractor, but all is not well upon revival. No start signal at starter forces Matt to pull out his multi-meter to get this old gal ready for its 20th season.
The culprit, the notorious PTO switch, will require some quick thinking to get the Kohler 18hp twin up and running. Will Matt succeed, or will the Cub Cadet get the best of him???
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I'm gonna add a tip here if you don't mind. If after you work on your cub cadet for 3 days and you get her running and mash on your forward and reverse pedals and it won't move , check that your transmission lever is pushed in or engaged , LOL. That happened to me last night. Immediately I thought , what have I bypassed !
Good thing it was bed time so I was forced to go inside. Then it hit me , The trans lever may be disengaged. I ran back out and that was it. Keep your videos coming.
Great point! Same thing happened to me a few years back. Stored the tractor in my father-in-law’s barn and had to push it around, so I disengaged the trans. When spring came around, forgot about the lever and couldn’t understand why forward/reverse didn’t work! Those are fun fixes when you finally figure them out!!!
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It does have an awesome sound to it!
Mine is doing the exact same thing. No 12v to that small blue wire at solenoid with brake actuated.I have pulled my hair out. Im gonna put a jumper on that pto switch to eliminate that. Of course I trashed the ign switch by taking it apart and have one ordered. If its not the pto switch, It may be my brake switch (or reverse switch ? if there is one) that is hard to get to underneath. I bypassed the seat switch and a previous owner has bypassed another switch underneath (brake or reverse switch , not sure which one , its hanging under the dash). Appreciate the video. I would have never figured that out. Catalytic convertors and safety switches need to be outlawed. Thanks again!
Hi Lego! Glad the video helped! On mine, the start signal goes through the key, the PTO switch and then the brake switch (no reverse switch on my model). I got the hint from a wiring diagram from another Cubcadet model I found online that showed start going through PTO switch. Now we know!! Thanks for watching!!
Thank you so much for the video! You explained everything really good and helped me fix my mower.
Really glad to help. Thanks for watching!!!
Great stuff, love all your videos. Super helpful!
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!!
Thank you so much! This video has saved me twice now!
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!!!
I have the same model as you. I bought it from a friend and I've never started it yet but, I went ahead and changed the oil and plugs and now when i try to start it the low oil light is on and it won't crank? I thought I would see if it's getting the 12v to the blue wire like you did. I will also check that seat switch and make sure i'm holding down on the brake. Any other ideas? Thanks for your very informative video.
I’m no cub cadet expert, but in general, a low oil light when key is on without engine running is normal because there is in fact no oil pressure. Once the engine starts, and starts making oil pressure, the light should turn off. As for the no start situation, yes check to make sure you have voltage at the starter like in the video. Another trick (that I have to do on mine sometimes) is knock on the starter lightly with a light hammer while trying to start. Sometimes the starter sticks…. Let us know how things work out and thanks for watching!!!
Thank you for share, super helpful.
Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you kindly for this video. Have hills to climb and love my 2135’s direct drive (like the 2186). Mine clicked couple starts ago. Ok since. Google results point toward solenoid. Others small and seem simple to replace. But 2135/2186 has one large and attached to starter. Any advice on replacing it?
Maybe you can find just the solenoid at a starter rebuild shop, but usually you replace the whole starter…. I saw a video online where they said that if you hook up a solenoid before the starter (the new solenoid powers the old one) it fixes the clicking problem that these starters are known for. I haven’t tried it myself though….
@@mattsws tks!
OMG I have the same mower in the same condition with a house light switch under the hood to operate the pto. Works great. It's a really good mower. I do have to turn the key about 50 times before the starter engages.
Yeah mine does the same key thing!!! Always ends up starting though!!
@@mattswsdo you know what the fix is for the key thing mine will click the solenoid but doesn’t start however sometimes it works
@@alextessier3452 I have not tried it on mine, but I think I saw a video on YT where the guy adds another starter solenoid to the circuit right before the starter. He runs power from the battery to the solenoid-starter coil and uses the old starter signal to power the solenoid control coil. Hope that helps!
I have 3 fuses (inline) could they be bypass? Verey heiful gives me hope of a start
Usually fuses wont cause issues unless they are blown. If you change one and it doesn’t blow again, you are good to go. If it blows right away, you have to find the shorted wire or component and fix. Fuses are your friend! 😉
I found my problem. The safety switch for the parking brake was not being depressed. My eyesight is not very good but evidently a tab had broke off that comes in contact with the safety switch. Had to remove the deck to find it. I sure didn't worry about fixing it back. I was more concerned about routing the switch to where you could inspect it without tearing the mower apart. I screwed a small plate over the top of the button and black taped it. Now I'm safety switch bypassed all over. Hopefully it won't kill me.
Thanks for the troubleshooting video. That will come in handy in the future. I have never used a multimeter to trouble shoot anything.
I’m glad you found your issue!!! Like I always say, it’s usually the safety circuit that is causing the problem! Lol! Take care!
I really thought this would be my fix. It was having the same issue but still no start unless I bypass the harness. Are there any other safety’s besides the seat and brake?
@@zack6892 Mine had 3 safety switches. I bypassed the seat and I had to remove the deck to get to the second one. I believe it was the brake. The third one was bypassed by a previous owner and I'm not sure where it was mounted. When I bought the mower I noticed it was hanging from the dash. So I believe there should be 3. My mower is a 2206 about a 2001 model I think.
The switch that the previous owner bypassed on mine was probably the reverse safety switch.
@@richardnesbitt8368 I found it finally there are two under the deck area the brake and the reverse. What a pain in the butt haha seems the brake no longer was applying pressure to the switch.
I'm highly suspect they make these things to have frequent electrical problems so they can sell us parts.
Them along with almost every other manufacturer now a days…. They engineer failure in to make more $$$$. That’s why we have to figure out ways to fix them for free!
Mine is acting like the engine is froze up, I need it to put my boat in the water. I thought it was the battery, but put new one in it, the started in tries to turn the engine but it is so tight it will not move it, tried putting the plug and turning the engine by hand and it will not move at all.
Yeah… if you pulled the plugs and it still doesn’t turn over, you might be in trouble… Maybe put some light oil in the cylinder and let it soak a couple days. I revived a couple engines that way in the past…
@@mattsws I did yesterday, may put a bit more tomorrow if not freed up yet
Good luck buddy!
I got to cook a date I change the oil for the hydraulic and she stopped moving they don't want to run no more what can I do
If it stopped working after your oil change, are you sure you have the right oil and added enough back in?
What is the relay for? How do you trbl shoot it? continuity?
The relay is because I couldn’t find a mechanical switch that could handle 200A, so I used a relay instead. Yes, most of the troubleshooting was done by checking continuity. When current does flow where it should be, you are closing in on the problem! Thanks for watching!
Why do you think you need MUSIC? Will your video not make the grade without it?
Good question! I like music, so I figured I would try to have some in my videos… I’m guessing your not a fan? I’m still new at this so I am trying things out. Thanks for the feedback.
dude a household switch on your cub.... get real
It works doesn’t it? Got the real one now!
To much intro, losing interest. Didn’t know how to install battery correctly for connection.
Appreciate the criticism. Sorry for boring you and the minor mistake when I installed the battery. I suppose I am only human after all…. Take care buddy!
@@mattsws you are human such as I am. Editing is a big part of presentation. No one says your video recording must be done in one take. If you have a video strictly on following a wire diagram. That would interest me.
@@paulchizek9615 I get what you are saying. Thanks for the input.