@Vandy 8130 you are out of your mind if you think that. Billy Donovan is one of the best coaches in the NBA, especially when it comes to up-and-coming teams.
@@abhijithashok2564 If iI remember correctly... After a loss to some team, Boylan made the squad do high school drills and extra practice. The next game, they played the historically sh*tty Kings and lost. At the end of the game, the Kings laughed at the Bulls and told them to go do your drills.
1:03 those three right there are what we’re gonna teach our kids in the future the worst three people in the bulls organization in history glad they’re gone
Yeah I have to agree a million percent he was a bad coach. Who.did not know what he was Doing, He got a job because he is friends with somebody for sure.
I’ll never forget when LaVine started a comeback end with like 2 minutes left, Boylen tried to bench him and he looks right at him and says, “I have 40 points!” Then stayed in and shot a 3 from the horn of the bulls logo. Didn’t boylen do some weird shirt by trying to take vacation with players that didn’t even like him so they have to spend a few days around him. Forcing himself to be their friend, then would treat them like they are teenagers. Boylen is the ***** donor father you met at 20 years old who thinks Bc he missed all that time that you’ll respect him while he treats you like you’re still a kid Bc he missed all that time. He came in halfway through a season and demanded respect from the start.
A Tim Floyd Jim Boylen comparison video would be cool. Both are in the basement as far as bulls coaches. Tim Floyd definitely had less talent to work with.
I wish you had not gone on and on about Boylen's attitude. That is not why he was a bad coach, IMO. As you said, Thibs was a jerk, too, but he knew the game. The problem was, IMO, that Boylen did NOT know the game. And he made bonehead moves --- like calling timeout when Arch was going to make a breakaway layup. He also showed heartlessness -- when he didn't call timeout when Valentine was writhing on the floor from injury. He also made stupid substitutions -- like taking guys out that were playing great. His attitude was bad, but that is not why he was a bad coach.
No, I agree. I probably focused a bit too much on his attitude and personality. I think we can all agree, what really made him a poor coach was just his overall decision making and competence as a coach.
He was hired as a coach for the Bulls because Paxson and the Reinsdorks had made the worst company culture in the NBA. it is a toxic place where nobody talented wants to coach of play there. Jerry Krause is where this toxicity started and nurtured by the Reinsdorks and it was continued with Paxson and Forman.
I think it may be time to eevisit this video, with so many criticising Donovan. I do NOT think Donobvan is the problem. Let me make that perfectly clear. Now, heres what Im saying. People are quick to say: "Look...I'm not saying he's as bad as Jim Boylen, but....". Yet, when you go back and listent to some of your OWN critiques of Boylen, a lot are saying these same things about Donovan. What I'm saying is that it might be that coaching is just coaching, and that it's a recalcitrant player who the real issue. Who led the rebellion against Boyken with open questioning of his decisions, and visible smirking? Who had to be spoken to about his role on the team in the locker room when the Bulls gave up 150 points to Minnesota? Who got the touches that would otherwise have gone to Wendell and Lauri before we shipped both out for disappointing, short-lived returns? Listen to this interview with David Fizdale, defending Boylen when Boylen was fired. th-cam.com/video/OKohzmkjkb8/w-d-xo.html How many coaches are we going to label as exceptionally bad, how many potential all-star teammates are we going to dismiss as busts and trade for aging (Vuc) or mediocre (DJJ) pieces? How many pedigreed (Steve Kerr was a Popp assistant at one time too) coaches are we going to fire before we raise that Zach was a GarPax acquisition too?
Hoiberg really didn't get a fair shake in my opinion. I think our current roster is a team Hoiberg would've done well with. Being a fairly new coach and having Alpha minded figures as Jimmy Butler, DWade, and Rondo as players would be tough to coach. None of them respected him, especially Wade n Jimmy. I think the young team we have now would've been what he needed to succeed.
@@bodhisattvaFM That's not true. He got them to the playoffs and had it not been for Rondo's injury we would've beat Boston in that series. I'm not saying he was an awesome or great coach, but compared to Boylen he was a far better coach.
@@jokerYG They were planning to tank when they hired Hoiberg. But then Jimmy started setting the league on fire and they had to see what was there so the tank got bumped back a couple seasons. That's why they got him. The biggest of many disagreements they had with Thibs was he refused to coach a losing roster.
@@bodhisattvaFMYes, those are facts too. I'm not necessarily arguing history. The question that was asked is "who's worse Boylen or Hoiberg?" I'm picking Hoiberg as the better of the two. Who would you choose as the better coach? Boylen or Hoiberg
Fred Hoiberg was widely recognized as the worst coach in the league. His offense was trash. His defense was a landfill. He was literally hired to lose (but the tank got delayed when Jimmy emerged). He lied to players constantly about the most basic stuff even when he probably would've been better off just being honest. He chewed his gum like some kind of a$$hole. He let Gar recruit spies in the locker room. And Jim Boylen was inarguably worse.
How can you not say Billy is one of the best coaches in the league? This is pretty much the exact same team Boylen had and they’re way more competitive in just about every game. I had my doubts about his hire too but gotta give my man Billy his respect for sure
Donovan is a great coach, I just think it's a little too early to say he's one of the best coaches in the league. The Bulls are still 3 games below .500 and have had some bad losses. I need to give it more time and see where he takes this team before I call him one of the best in the league
Hoiberg was worse cuz he took the bulls from a title contender to a lottery team boylan inherited a fucked up team but also was terrible with development
The key is 65 or more from zach and two more players and defense,if you look at the losses no 3 players combined for 65 or more,I didnt like the way Boylan and the organization did Parker.
Any team that is relying on 65 points from one player is compete garbage. And what did the Bulls do to Parker?? Pay him 20mil to do nothing? Parker should be praising the bulls for giving his busted ass a chance
I mean, yeah but the Bulls should have never offered him that contract in the first place. At least own it and hold onto him after realizing you screwed up in giving him a contract like that. He was on a team option for the 2nd year, all they had to do was not renew it rather than trade him right away and embarrass him like that in front of his hometown
@@BullsCentral Not only that they tried to hurt him by not letting him play,he say he was healthy and ready to play and they didnt let him play,I'm glad he got paid even though they tried to hurt him by not letting him play the game he love,but I do know it was a business move to,they didnt want him to get hurt so they could get something for him.
Jim boylen to get some nut who who doesn't know how to coach he shouldn't even be in the same conversation is Tom Thibodeau Super Bowl was a great coach it's really sad and the Bulls screwed him over
He’s not the GM, but he has the ultimate say on the decision within the Hornets organization as the owner. It’s well known he’s heavily involved and has a hard time relinquishing control to his front office. Just like Cuban with the Mavs
@@BullsCentral last I checked Jordan is the owner of the hornets and he hires general managers and vice presidents to handle all that stuff just like Jerry, owner of the Chicago Bulls. So is it Jerry fault or is it John Paxton fault for running the Bulls into the ground? Because I don't see no one blaming Jerry I only see everyone blaming John Paxton and Gar Foreman last year. All I'm saying is should be a double standard.
Like I said, certain owners are more involved in the decision making process of what players and coaches they bring in. MJ is one of those owners, that's a known fact. Mark Cuban is another one of those owners. The Reinsdorf's are absolutely to blame as well, and people call them out a lot, but they're not as involved with the team as other owners, again because they're more baseball fans and focus more on their ownership of the White Sox
I read a book and it said that bald nba coaches who coach the bulls are trash *I didnt actually read a book im just being sarcastic about reading a book*
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"because I said so" is so disrespectful. Glad you did this video, because nobody else will and it should be talked about
I believe he said it to KC Johnson too, who is the Bulls best writer and very much respected in the media
With the definition of a shit eating grin. Ugh, glad that's become a faint memory.... As the players driven out thrive
Fred Hoiberg was bad, but Jim Boylen made Hoiberg look like a modern day Phil Jackson
Hoiberg better than billy
Man I keep trying to forget that we had a character from the office pretending to be a basketball coach for 3 seasons
He really was a curse for the organization
Billy Donovan is such a breath of fresh air
@Vandy 8130 you are out of your mind if you think that. Billy Donovan is one of the best coaches in the NBA, especially when it comes to up-and-coming teams.
Billy is horrible also
LMFAOOOO
I remember when the Kings laughed at the Bull. Dude, the Kings...
That was a low point
I dont understand
🤦🏽🤦🏽
@@abhijithashok2564 If iI remember correctly... After a loss to some team, Boylan made the squad do high school drills and extra practice. The next game, they played the historically sh*tty Kings and lost. At the end of the game, the Kings laughed at the Bulls and told them to go do your drills.
@@elementkx wow lmaoo thats just sad
Boylen is by far the worst of these two. Hoiberg at least clinched the 8th spot with the allstar roster.
1:03 those three right there are what we’re gonna teach our kids in the future the worst three people in the bulls organization in history glad they’re gone
Paxson is still an "advisor" to Karnisovas 🤦🏾♂️
Jim Boylen AKA the GOAT of being the worst coach in the nba
Yeah I have to agree a million percent he was a bad coach. Who.did not know what he was Doing, He got a job because he is friends with somebody for sure.
I’ll never forget when LaVine started a comeback end with like 2 minutes left, Boylen tried to bench him and he looks right at him and says, “I have 40 points!” Then stayed in and shot a 3 from the horn of the bulls logo. Didn’t boylen do some weird shirt by trying to take vacation with players that didn’t even like him so they have to spend a few days around him. Forcing himself to be their friend, then would treat them like they are teenagers. Boylen is the ***** donor father you met at 20 years old who thinks Bc he missed all that time that you’ll respect him while he treats you like you’re still a kid Bc he missed all that time. He came in halfway through a season and demanded respect from the start.
You can see it this year the players seem much happier it’s like a breath of fresh not only because boylen is gone but the whole front office
Next video: How Felicio outplayed the bulls
A Tim Floyd Jim Boylen comparison video would be cool. Both are in the basement as far as bulls coaches. Tim Floyd definitely had less talent to work with.
The vid we all have been waiting for
Our Bulls now is so much better than last season because of the new coach.
#real😎💯
#BullsFan
Can someone comment the link to the article?
www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/why-billy-donovans-benching-young-bulls-purposeful-not-punitive
Maybe not the worst coach but definetly the most incompetent
Gar-Pax-Boylan all 3 were 🗑️
GarPax got Lavine and drafted Rose
Who else was part of that draft? Michael Beasley? Lol. Rose was a no brainer. Jim Boyland was the worst coach of all time
Ah man, the title of this video alone, literally made me laugh out loud!
I wish you had not gone on and on about Boylen's attitude.
That is not why he was a bad coach, IMO.
As you said, Thibs was a jerk, too, but he knew the game.
The problem was, IMO, that Boylen did NOT know the game.
And he made bonehead moves --- like calling timeout when Arch was going to make a breakaway layup.
He also showed heartlessness -- when he didn't call timeout when Valentine was writhing on the floor from injury.
He also made stupid substitutions -- like taking guys out that were playing great.
His attitude was bad, but that is not why he was a bad coach.
No, I agree. I probably focused a bit too much on his attitude and personality. I think we can all agree, what really made him a poor coach was just his overall decision making and competence as a coach.
Don’t know how this man landed another job but he’s an assistant for the Pacers currently
Lol we were watching basketball as a family and my grandpa was saying he should go flip nurtures! Lol
That time out in the middle of that layup was just insane
He was hired as a coach for the Bulls because Paxson and the Reinsdorks had made the worst company culture in the NBA. it is a toxic place where nobody talented wants to coach of play there. Jerry Krause is where this toxicity started and nurtured by the Reinsdorks and it was continued with Paxson and Forman.
I think it may be time to eevisit this video, with so many criticising Donovan. I do NOT think Donobvan is the problem. Let me make that perfectly clear.
Now, heres what Im saying. People are quick to say: "Look...I'm not saying he's as bad as Jim Boylen, but....".
Yet, when you go back and listent to some of your OWN critiques of Boylen, a lot are saying these same things about Donovan.
What I'm saying is that it might be that coaching is just coaching, and that it's a recalcitrant player who the real issue.
Who led the rebellion against Boyken with open questioning of his decisions, and visible smirking?
Who had to be spoken to about his role on the team in the locker room when the Bulls gave up 150 points to Minnesota?
Who got the touches that would otherwise have gone to Wendell and Lauri before we shipped both out for disappointing, short-lived returns?
Listen to this interview with David Fizdale, defending Boylen when Boylen was fired.
th-cam.com/video/OKohzmkjkb8/w-d-xo.html
How many coaches are we going to label as exceptionally bad, how many potential all-star teammates are we going to dismiss as busts and trade for aging (Vuc) or mediocre (DJJ) pieces? How many pedigreed (Steve Kerr was a Popp assistant at one time too) coaches are we going to fire before we raise that Zach was a GarPax acquisition too?
Hot take, Chandler Hutchinson is in a deep depression because he misses Jim Boylen. 😅
You should do a ranking of the best coaches the bulls have had starting from worst to best
Lol, not a bad idea actually
Tim Floyd and Bill Cartwright where fucking terrible but yeah Jim Bonehead is the best at being the worst lol
Good vid! The Ghost of Boylen. LMAO
Hoiberg really didn't get a fair shake in my opinion. I think our current roster is a team Hoiberg would've done well with. Being a fairly new coach and having Alpha minded figures as Jimmy Butler, DWade, and Rondo as players would be tough to coach. None of them respected him, especially Wade n Jimmy. I think the young team we have now would've been what he needed to succeed.
He was a tank commander. Don't get misty over him.
@@bodhisattvaFM That's not true. He got them to the playoffs and had it not been for Rondo's injury we would've beat Boston in that series. I'm not saying he was an awesome or great coach, but compared to Boylen he was a far better coach.
@@jokerYG They were planning to tank when they hired Hoiberg. But then Jimmy started setting the league on fire and they had to see what was there so the tank got bumped back a couple seasons. That's why they got him. The biggest of many disagreements they had with Thibs was he refused to coach a losing roster.
@@bodhisattvaFMYes, those are facts too. I'm not necessarily arguing history. The question that was asked is "who's worse Boylen or Hoiberg?" I'm picking Hoiberg as the better of the two. Who would you choose as the better coach? Boylen or Hoiberg
@@jokerYG Boylen most def. I just think looking over Hoiberg's term highlights how impressively low the bar was already.
God man…I gotta apologize to Fred Hoiberg because man…even he wasn’t this fucking horrible like Boylen was💀💀
😂😂
Holy shit we lost by 56 points under Boylen? Lmao
Lol 😂. Jim Boylen was a terrible version of a want-to-be coach like Tom Thibodeau.
Fred Hoiberg was widely recognized as the worst coach in the league. His offense was trash. His defense was a landfill. He was literally hired to lose (but the tank got delayed when Jimmy emerged). He lied to players constantly about the most basic stuff even when he probably would've been better off just being honest. He chewed his gum like some kind of a$$hole. He let Gar recruit spies in the locker room.
And Jim Boylen was inarguably worse.
How about a video of who the worst coach in bulls history? 🤷🏽♂️
I mean, I think that's Jim Boylen
@@BullsCentral me to!😂 but it’ll be entertaining that first part of the video was hilarious like a blooper real
jim boylen is the worst of franchise
Imagine if Lavine had a teammate like Demar Derozan
Uhhhhh
@@illfaith1394 yea that shit aged well💀🤣
Utah Utes fan here wondering how he gets HC jobs still after his history.
I knew jim boylen was bad but after this video i ACTUALLY realized that he was awful and arguably the worst coach in bulls history
Lol, couldn't stand that guy
Bulls need a new Coach
"We battled"
He was flat out pathetic as a coach and shouldn't be on any bench.
Boylen is straight disrespectful to a guy who is well respected in the media in kc
A clown of a coach... Paxton should have been embarrassed for this guy to represent him.
How can you not say Billy is one of the best coaches in the league? This is pretty much the exact same team Boylen had and they’re way more competitive in just about every game. I had my doubts about his hire too but gotta give my man Billy his respect for sure
Donovan is a great coach, I just think it's a little too early to say he's one of the best coaches in the league. The Bulls are still 3 games below .500 and have had some bad losses. I need to give it more time and see where he takes this team before I call him one of the best in the league
@@BullsCentral that’s fair enough, I can see where you’re coming from for sure. Love the vids btw keep it up!
@@abrahamnuno7420 Thank you!! Appreciate it!
Boylen is the white Mike Brown from old Cleveland days lmao
Hoiberg was worse cuz he took the bulls from a title contender to a lottery team boylan inherited a fucked up team but also was terrible with development
The key is 65 or more from zach and two more players and defense,if you look at the losses no 3 players combined for 65 or more,I didnt like the way Boylan and the organization did Parker.
Yeah, that wasn’t cool at all how they handeled that situation with Jabari
Any team that is relying on 65 points from one player is compete garbage. And what did the Bulls do to Parker?? Pay him 20mil to do nothing? Parker should be praising the bulls for giving his busted ass a chance
I mean, yeah but the Bulls should have never offered him that contract in the first place. At least own it and hold onto him after realizing you screwed up in giving him a contract like that. He was on a team option for the 2nd year, all they had to do was not renew it rather than trade him right away and embarrass him like that in front of his hometown
@@BullsCentral Not only that they tried to hurt him by not letting him play,he say he was healthy and ready to play and they didnt let him play,I'm glad he got paid even though they tried to hurt him by not letting him play the game he love,but I do know it was a business move to,they didnt want him to get hurt so they could get something for him.
@@bcubs1939tp that's what you got from that is a team relying on 65 from one player?
I'm so glad Boylen is gone from the Bulls I can't believe he got hired again by Portland what a joke.
Jim boylen to get some nut who who doesn't know how to coach he shouldn't even be in the same conversation is Tom Thibodeau Super Bowl was a great coach it's really sad and the Bulls screwed him over
And Pace is still worse at his job than Boyle at his.
His own players don’t even like or respect him as couch that’s how bad he is
Yep exactly
He was terrible at Utah. No surprise he was terrible with the Bulls.
I’m so sick of bald Chicago coaches
We've only had two? Skiles and Boylen.
I’m talking about all sports.. Nagy.. Ross.. Lovie was the only good one but he was... nvm
🔥 him 🙌
Lol, they fired him months ago
Billy Donovan a bad coach to
Not as bad as Boylen though, not even close
@@BullsCentral your right but billy is so bad. He has no respect that’s why lavine and demar keep making the same mistakes
You guy kill me, like Jordan is the GM.
He’s not the GM, but he has the ultimate say on the decision within the Hornets organization as the owner. It’s well known he’s heavily involved and has a hard time relinquishing control to his front office. Just like Cuban with the Mavs
@@BullsCentral last I checked Jordan is the owner of the hornets and he hires general managers and vice presidents to handle all that stuff just like Jerry, owner of the Chicago Bulls. So is it Jerry fault or is it John Paxton fault for running the Bulls into the ground? Because I don't see no one blaming Jerry I only see everyone blaming John Paxton and Gar Foreman last year. All I'm saying is should be a double standard.
Like I said, certain owners are more involved in the decision making process of what players and coaches they bring in. MJ is one of those owners, that's a known fact. Mark Cuban is another one of those owners. The Reinsdorf's are absolutely to blame as well, and people call them out a lot, but they're not as involved with the team as other owners, again because they're more baseball fans and focus more on their ownership of the White Sox
No he wasn’t. The bulls have had worse. Boyle was a decent defensive coach just a terrible head coach.
His defense was promising but his complete lack of professionalism and self-awareness is what makes him the worst ever.
Worst coach of all time
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I read a book and it said that bald nba coaches who coach the bulls are trash *I didnt actually read a book im just being sarcastic about reading a book*
Agreed lol
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