The Evolution of Daedric Princes in The Elder Scrolls

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  • Daedric princes have been around in The Elder Scrolls since 1996, but didn't really develop until Morrowind came around. Join me as I take a look at the princes as they changed and evolved from core game to core game.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00- Intro
    01:36- The creation of the Aedra/Daedra
    08:15- Azura
    13:25- Boethiah
    17:09- Mephala
    22:10- Malakath
    27:52- Mehrunes Dagon
    31:23- Molag Bal
    34:09- Sheogorath
    36:58- Final thoughts
    38:38- Outro
    Thanks for watching!
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  • @InquisitorThomas
    @InquisitorThomas ปีที่แล้ว +669

    I think the reason that Boethiah’s Skyrim quest feels so out of character is that it was very likely rewritten at the last moment. If you use illusion magic to pacify Boethiah’s champion you can actually talk to him and he’s supposedly trying to give up violence in pursuit of pacifism. Also you might have originally been tasked to kill Elisif in Boethiah’s quest, there’s a lot of ghosts of cut content in Skyrim.

    • @chrisdiokno5600
      @chrisdiokno5600 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      And in Mephala, you'd help kill Balgruff

    • @funnyjoke9225
      @funnyjoke9225 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That's really interesting and explains why if the stormcloaks win she remains jarl of solitude. Fascinating stuff.

    • @luhso7552
      @luhso7552 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Speaking of cut content... When is Bethesda gonna release Skyrim- Finished Edition?

    • @diablo.the.cheater
      @diablo.the.cheater ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@luhso7552 After TES 6 goes out

    • @sarah69420
      @sarah69420 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@diablo.the.cheater so never :(

  • @toxicear5274
    @toxicear5274 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    Lore video? Cool to see you branching out with video ideas. I’m liking the illustrations too

  • @Raganui
    @Raganui ปีที่แล้ว +195

    It's funny, he didn't get into Sheogorath's actual Daedric Shrine quest in Oblivion, or the fact that if you do it after Shivering Isles, you talk to Haskill who just wonders why you're trying to invoke yourself, but gives you a quest to go do as it was something that your previous incarnation (or however you want to call the utter insanity of Sheo turning a mortal into himself later) had on the books but never got around to getting someone to do.

    • @seekerofalice9787
      @seekerofalice9787 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      he also points out that a mad god praying to himself for a miracle is pretty in character.

    • @DarkeningDemise
      @DarkeningDemise ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Salt isn't well known for going into depth. He's the Skyrim of analyzing youtubers.

    • @kemonngo3106
      @kemonngo3106 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DarkeningDemise pretty much lol go to any other youtuber if you want anything in depth or w/o the errors he made

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a question - why Sheogorath was in Aetherius in Daggerfall? Mara invited him out of pity?

    • @udozocklein6023
      @udozocklein6023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because he visits "the blind god" from time to time.@@indrickboreale7381

  • @SpeedeyFreaks
    @SpeedeyFreaks ปีที่แล้ว +260

    I think you kinda missed the point of Boethiah's skyrim 2nd quest. She sends you to kill her champion and take his place because he has been lazy. She hates stagnation and urges people to outsmart and outplay as well as outshine their opponents. One must always challenge themselves and have a greater goal in mind. That is why she sends you to take his place rightfully.

    • @p0laris813
      @p0laris813 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @SpeedeyFreaks: Exactly. It's not simply that he disobeyed her, because she doesn't like blind obedience. It's that he disobeyed her prime directive of not being complacent.

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alex Steen Wasn't that cut content?

    • @creatorsfreedom6734
      @creatorsfreedom6734 ปีที่แล้ว

      sooo when you become OLD what some one is sent to end you ?

    • @SpeedeyFreaks
      @SpeedeyFreaks ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@creatorsfreedom6734 could be, as long as a better contender appears, yes, you will be ended if you lose your ambition and stagnate regardless of age.

  • @Sathtana
    @Sathtana ปีที่แล้ว +37

    1 gripe so far, oblivion isn't solely fire and death, that's just Mehrunes Dagon's plane Deadlands. We actually visit a few realms including the Shivering Isles, Coldharbour, and Apocrypha.

  • @egilpeterbudde5832
    @egilpeterbudde5832 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Small point, it was not Sithis but Padomay who was the primordial opposite to Anu, Sithis is Padomays child.

    • @kiptheott5932
      @kiptheott5932 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Probably, at any rate. It's kinda vague what exactly the relationship between them is, and seeing as Sithis is implied to technically not exist on account of being the embodiment of nonexistence it's possible that whatever the hell is going on there just isn't something that mortal minds can really understand.

    • @Palemagpie
      @Palemagpie ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I thought Padomay was oblivion (the term, not the place),
      Anu is creation and Sithis is something else entirely. The void, not an absence of existence but like the embodiment of a space between existence and none existence.

    • @Sirfinchyyy
      @Sirfinchyyy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I hear the guy from Camelworks saying Padomay over and over in my head every time he says Sithis 😂

    • @egilpeterbudde5832
      @egilpeterbudde5832 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sithis is the end point of change. They are in essence entropic decay into a state of nothingness. In this sense sithis and anu are very similar. In a way you could think of anu as the neverending now. While sithis is the end. Padomay is then the progression of change.

    • @egilpeterbudde5832
      @egilpeterbudde5832 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      One should also note that calling nir the world is not entirely accurate. Kirkbrkde described nir as a "possipoint" which is a weird word to use. But one that i think means that she is the possibility of being. That she is the everchanging future, in contrast to both padomay and anu. In essence being everything that could be but nothing that is.

  • @garymcjerry
    @garymcjerry ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Hircine is less 'just about the hunt' and more about 'the strongest get the right to do as they please', so survival of the fittest is more his motto. He's as much the prey as the predator, and if the prey is clever enough, or fast enough or strong enough to evade or kill the predator he is just as quick to reward them, as he would the hunter for killing their prey. He's quite fair as Princes go. You know minus inconsistent Bethesda writing. At least this is how i've interpreted him in the Series.

  • @zachthomas8597
    @zachthomas8597 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    So this video is pretty good overall, there are some minor lore issues or misunderstandings here, but one of the bigger ones that I feel I should explain for anyone in the comments is this: The Good Daedra and House of Troubles predate the Tribunal, and their designation as such has nothing to do with bowing down to the Tribunal.
    In fact, the Tribunal act in direct defiance to the primary Good Daedra, Azura.
    The Good Daedra are named such because these three helped to build Dunmer (and their predecessors, the Chimer) into the society they are now. They taught them how to live in Morrowind, and how to differentiate themselves from the other elven races.
    The House of Troubles are Daedra that represent danger and struggle to the Dunmer, forces that would seek to weaken their foundations, enemies they must overcome.

    • @dogdog357
      @dogdog357 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He also said that it was Anu and Sithis, with Sithis taking Padomai's spot of being an aspect of Chaos instead of being quite literally The Void.

    • @glopsnopper3806
      @glopsnopper3806 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s cool thanks for the read. You big gay nerd lololololololololol

  • @MrGraae-dg5km
    @MrGraae-dg5km ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Side note, the dunmer (at the time chimer) worshipped the good daedra (mephala, boethia and azura) way before the tribunal existed

    • @KrutchesRDH
      @KrutchesRDH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And after their downfall, along with their ancestors (possibly the Ehlnofey and Aedra too) and the tribunal and saints.

  • @nsnick199
    @nsnick199 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I think you mean Padhome in the beginning, not Sithis.
    Before the creation of Mundus, the Daedra and Aedra were all just known as et'Ada.
    Magnus was the architect of Mundus and left before it was finished. The hole he tore isn't a hole *to* Oblivion, but a hole *through* Oblivion, reaching Aetherius. The stars are also the same kind of hole, made by the lesser Magna Ge. These holes leak magicka from Aetherius, which is why magic exists on Nirn. Meridia was one of these Magna Ge who was cast out from Aetherius, and made her realm such that the light of Aetherius passes through it like a prism, imbuing the sunlight with her hatred of the undead, which is why the sun harms them.

    • @nsnick199
      @nsnick199 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Also, the good Daedra were the good Daedra before the Tribunal took power and most certainly did not bend the knee. The veneration of these good Daedra as well as the view of the four corners of the House of Troubles (the bad Daedra) were what caused the schism of Veloth and his followers, the Velothi, who were later called the Chimer and later became the Dunmer. The Tribunal stepped into the roles of the good Daedra, naming them "Anticipations" when they performed their religious coup.

    • @nsnick199
      @nsnick199 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As for Malacath, rather than think of him as the god of vengeance, I would say he is the god of outcasts. Through this lens, his looking out for goblins and other quests make a lot more sense.

    • @Infected_Apple
      @Infected_Apple ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good summary of the mistakes.

    • @2010topdog
      @2010topdog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why was Meridia cast out? Was it before or after the stars were created? I might have heard the Magna Ge thing before but i think ive heard she had other origins.

    • @andrearossi6564
      @andrearossi6564 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah this video has quite a few errors/misunderstandings

  • @jamham839
    @jamham839 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I really want more info Peryite and Namira. Hope they get more of a spotlight in the future.

    • @raidenmakoto7168
      @raidenmakoto7168 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Namira got some love in ESO with Elsweyr and Markarth. She’s like the Khajiit satan and Top god for the reachmen now so that’s cool.
      Peryite fittingly gets small roles in various dungeons and it’s all mostly sorta disease and stinky yuck stuff unfortunately but there’s also some of the “keeper of the natural order with culling the weak through pestilence” so that’s cool

    • @raidenmakoto7168
      @raidenmakoto7168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I paraphrased with Namira but she really does get some awesome lore in ESO. She’s shown more in her role as the Primordial void. She sorta becomes Nihilism incarnate so that’s cool and she becomes intrinsically linked with Lorkhan. She gets cool new “minions” in the Void Mothers who are creepy ghost ladies who move creepy, summon undead, and distort reality. She also gets evil Khajiit called Dromathra who dance to the beat of the dark heart of Lorkhan which all Khajiit can become if they become consumed with negative emotion and is a manifestation of her taking over the space left behind when Lorkhan’s heart was removed which also links to Reachmen lore because a Reachfolk clan worships that very dark heart and believe Lorkhan made a deal with Namira for some space in the primordial void for a place to create Nirn.

    • @butterysnail2537
      @butterysnail2537 ปีที่แล้ว

      especially after eso and the descriptions we have of her oblivion realm i feel like we don't have nearly enough content around namira. she's honestly one of the coolest sounding daedra but she just never appears other than the obligatory quest once a game

  • @rebellyanmagic6409
    @rebellyanmagic6409 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    I know Meridia isn't in this video but I must let out an obligatory *A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON*
    EDIT: Probably didn't mention this due to 'community guidelines' but Molag Bal 'created' vampires by raping a human woman for hours. In the Dawnguard DLC it's heavily implied that female Coldharbour vampires go through the same thing to be changed. That's why one of his in-universe titles is The King of Rape.

    • @SetariM
      @SetariM ปีที่แล้ว +32

      What the hell. WHAT THE HELL BETHESDA.

    • @TheSaltFactory
      @TheSaltFactory  ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Yeah I almost went into that but uh... I didn't want to chance the wrath of youtube haha

    • @nathanwinters2400
      @nathanwinters2400 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Vivec also gave Molag Bal his head for 8 days to play with so that Vivec could learn to secrets of Chim. Won't even go into Azura and "the Spear" story. Bethesda! :D

    • @spacecowboy5486
      @spacecowboy5486 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@SetariM wait until you learn how Vivec aquired his spear

    • @evilsclone2499
      @evilsclone2499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@spacecowboy5486 explain Now.

  • @degurkin
    @degurkin ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sheogorath is actually instrumental to the story of Daggerfall as he personally interferes
    you can see him in one of the last areas and talk to him directly.

  • @RyanCalhan
    @RyanCalhan ปีที่แล้ว +239

    I think Hermeaus Mora is my favorite simply because of his mysterious nature.

    • @Maria_Erias
      @Maria_Erias ปีที่แล้ว +28

      He strikes me best as being similar to something from the Cthulhu mythos: a great being that isn't necessarily evil, but whose goals and motivations are unknowable and even alien to human understanding.

    • @RyanCalhan
      @RyanCalhan ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Maria_Erias Yes there’s definitely HP Lovecraft inspired aspects of him primarily with the tentacles and such. And he definitely seems evil but in a more subtle way. Influence, desire, madness are his tools. It’s not clear what exactly he wants other than to gain knowledge and have followers gain more knowledge for him. Definitely a character I’d love to see more of in the following games.

    • @captainrex4723
      @captainrex4723 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can’t wait for the eso necrom dlc

    • @therealadamfriedland
      @therealadamfriedland ปีที่แล้ว

      Who?

    • @RyanCalhan
      @RyanCalhan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@therealadamfriedland Skyrim Dragonborn DLC eyeball tentacle monster.

  • @MrfrogAXN
    @MrfrogAXN ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Molag Bal is the only daedric prince that actually is scary.

    • @Rynjinivar
      @Rynjinivar ปีที่แล้ว +39

      You don't get a name like "Prince of Rape" for being a pleasant individual, that's for sure.

    • @quatreraberbawinner2628
      @quatreraberbawinner2628 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Idk mehrunes dagon isn't exactly warm and cuddly

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@quatreraberbawinner2628 he's not so much sinister though, as he plays a cosmic role, to change the order of things. Revolutionise. Molag Bal is just, evil.

    • @jakobrenner2230
      @jakobrenner2230 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@quatreraberbawinner2628 the thing about Dagon is that he can be a more “force of nature” kind of bad. Molag Bal is deliberately sadistic and domineering, and unless you prove yourself strong he will mercilessly torment you in the worst and exhaustive way possible.

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@quatreraberbawinner2628 read Lamae Beoflage's story. Its absolutely bone chilling.

  • @darthskarr8975
    @darthskarr8975 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    A note regarding Boethiah's quest in Skyrim Molag Bal in Morrowind; you can actually kill all her Cultists first and then she herself will ask you to bring a follower to sacrifice, saying it's to prove that "your tongue can wield a lie." Another thing is that her quest has some hidden dialogue either as a result from bad scripting or left over cut content, because if you use a calm spell on her old Champion, you'll be able to talk to him and get some rare dialogue revealing he renounced Boethiah and that's specifically why Boethiah wants him dead.
    There are actually a lot of cases like this in Skyrim where NPCs have hidden dialogue that can't hear because their immediately hostile to you unless you have a calm spell to use on them and if they don't resist it (Voice of the Emperor generally always works)
    As for Molag Bal, he and Vaermina are related to the Vampire Cure quest in Morrowind. Whilst Molag Bal made Vampires only Vaermina can cure it. So the Vampire Cure quest in Morrowind has you going to Molag Bal and he goes "Aw F###, another one. OK, look, I'll go talk to Vaermina, meanwhile you do a quest for me, OK?" and then that's what actually happens.
    Also I really like how Malakath was portrayed in the TES novels. Though it's very different from his video game depictions. Same with Clavicus Vile who was inadvertently responsibile for the events of the novels.

    • @nomousecat
      @nomousecat ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was Vaermina, not Mephala. Quote: "It was not easy for me to obtain the cure, but I was able to pry it from Vaermina after some...discussion."

    • @darthskarr8975
      @darthskarr8975 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nomousecat right, I got that mixed it. I'll fix that.

  • @loopyloon5401
    @loopyloon5401 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hold-up, Sithis? Where's Padomay?

    • @TheodoricFriede
      @TheodoricFriede 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would seem, in your anger, you killed her.

    • @loopyloon5401
      @loopyloon5401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheodoricFriede NooOOOooo…

  • @judekaraki1650
    @judekaraki1650 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    this is a banger concept, would love to see more videos like this on other games, or even on more specific topics within skyrim, like the evolution of the depiction of the politics and factions over the games. a specific concept i would love to see you cover is the evolution of cosmic horror in the fallout series since the videos currently exploring that topic are quite shallow and seem to miss a few obvious connections. keep up the good work.

  • @simmojosh71
    @simmojosh71 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I find it interesting that a lot of your complaints are about how they have don't have consistent goals and things they want you to do. I always thought it was kind of the point of them that they are immortal and kinda just do shit that they fancy at the time so aren't locked down to a one note personality for all time.

  • @MrTylertherockstar
    @MrTylertherockstar ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m so stoked you put this out. Just started playing morrowind and Skyrim again, and I’ve been diving way deeper into the lore lately. And I always look forward to your videos

  • @piercemathena2125
    @piercemathena2125 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I appreciate that this worked as well as a comparison video as it did as a lore primer and an "is it as good" video. Just as a note, there were a few times when I think you confused the words ancestor and descendant. I noticed it first in your discussion of Azura, the Chimer, and the Dunmer, but I know it came up again at least one other time. I think you used ancestor when you should have said descendant.

  • @killerabbit003
    @killerabbit003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I CACKLED at the random "among us" while he was describing Boethia possessing the body of the follower. My humor is officially broken

  • @yesman4062
    @yesman4062 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you so much for doing content like this. I crave videos from you every day, literally just rewatching your videos all the time, big love

  • @MasterTangerines
    @MasterTangerines ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would love to see more videos on the evolution of lore in the Elder Scrolls games. So many things have been tweaked or changed to fit the newer games that it's interesting to look back at a more simplistic version of the lore

  • @VoidNull9222
    @VoidNull9222 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While I agree there’s not much to Hircine’s quests in the games I do find him interesting as a character especially compared to the other Daedra
    Hircine is one of the best examples of a True Neutral being (to use the old D&D morality system). His hunts have rules that he himself is subject to; that the prey always has to have a chance to escape or turn the tables on the hunter and prey that manages to do so is rewarded.
    In Skyrim if you go against his orders and side with the werewolf over Hircine’s hunters you still get a reward and respect from the prince instead of the “how DARE you defy me!!!” you might expect from an entity like a Daedric Prince
    And unlike most modern Bethesda quests this seems more like a character trait rather than ‘your choices are just flavor here’s a reward anyway’ gameplay philosophy

    • @JaysMissingKidney
      @JaysMissingKidney ปีที่แล้ว

      Hircine is not fair in his hunts. In ESO he is quite ruthless and unfair. In Bloodmoon too.

  • @user-pr3ur6nt7h
    @user-pr3ur6nt7h ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So, Azura is the "Rim of all Holes," and her quest reward is her "star"? Whats going on here Todd?

  • @Palemagpie
    @Palemagpie ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sheogorath has always been my favourite even before shivering isles.
    Come on, he's literally the god of shits and giggles.

  • @Whizzer
    @Whizzer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dunmer consider themselves to be Azura's ancestors? I don't think that's how it works...

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hermaeus Mora and Sheogorath are my favorites by far. The former looks like he was plucked right out of the lovecraftian mythos and is pretty enigmatic.
    While the latter is the embodiedment of chaos. He's wild and unpredicrable, but there's this almost regal elegance to him, made *genuinely terrifying* in the rare moments he lets his facade slip and shows that he's *much smarter* than his rambling makes him seem.

  • @jon-michaelsampson1120
    @jon-michaelsampson1120 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love to see a new video from and some of my favorite moments from your typical content is the lore breakdowns so lore content is great with me!

  • @sebs-shenanigans
    @sebs-shenanigans ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this different type of video!
    Well made, fun, informative!

  • @TheTiforce
    @TheTiforce ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The story of the meteor and Vivec is kinda unintentionally funny. It's like Vivec doesn't know how to use the physics engine of the universe and once he loses control of it, the meteor crashed into the land like it never lost momentum.

    • @iScAre1
      @iScAre1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Baar Dau didn't crash after Vivec disappeared, a pact was made with Clavicus to uphold it using the Ingenium but it got damaged after a scuffle one day. And so without power it inevitably fell, Vivec intentionally kept it afloat as a "symbol" to his ppl so he always had control over it (except for that time in the 2nd era where Clavicus sabotaged Vivec's power for a bit, morbid foreshadowing)

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The idea it kept inertia makes very little sense given how little damage it did. Making Red Mountain explode is small potatoes for something that size hitting that hard.

    • @MaxonerousX
      @MaxonerousX หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vivec didn't stop it, they basically froze it in time, and likely could have destroyed it. They kept it either as a threat, or as a visible symbol of their power

  • @Gensolink
    @Gensolink ปีที่แล้ว +7

    personally I love the telling of Malacath dealing with sheogorath's antics. This orc became mad because of sheo and malacath had to kill him but by doing so the orc's soul was sent to the shivering isles and Malacath was very much saddened by it. I wish we could see more of the caring side of Malacath for his people in books and quests

  • @mark5222
    @mark5222 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think the reason why most Aedra were angry at how the Mundus was created is because while they sacrificed themselves to it, they were not able to interact with it as freely as the Daedra. It can be observed on how the inhabitants of Mundus are right now. Although most people want love, justice, beauty, etc, it's mostly the influence of the Daedra that is the most dominant. Like, there's always war, thieves, murderers, and people who would spread their legs to f*cking Molag Bal.

    • @kakerei
      @kakerei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not rlly, you can see Y'ffre, Akatosh, Kynareth having a lot of influence on Nirn. It's just not personified like with the Daedra. You can argue any act of Love, natural Death, etc. is a sign of Mara's, Arkay's, etc. power. And you have Aedra like Auri-El who led a war and established kingdoms on Nirn and then ascended back to Heaven. Aedric power is much more present on Nirn, but it's more irgrained in the world so it's harder to see, than just Daedra coming and doing some crazy shit.

  • @aphawolf6154
    @aphawolf6154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love when you make lore videos even if you make mistakes your style for videos is so entertaining and informative.

  • @darryllyle5250
    @darryllyle5250 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One theory about the The Dark Brotherhood, is that the Night Mother is actually Mephala. If you take this into consideration, then All of the Dark Brotherhood quests are "Mephala's Quests". This also does fit in with her proposed personality.

  • @andyparkinson1996
    @andyparkinson1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooooo all the editing and animations etc in this are ace! Loving this style of analysis!

  • @williamnelson5549
    @williamnelson5549 ปีที่แล้ว

    A surprise to be sure, but not unwelcome. I would love to see more videos like this, this was really cool :)

  • @loli-knightxardej2252
    @loli-knightxardej2252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heck yeah, Salt! Like Strat-Edgy I always thought your Fallout and Elder Scrolls videos were the best, so it's great seeing you flesh the corners of them out a bit. Good stuff!

  • @walrusmaximus
    @walrusmaximus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly the kind of video i know imma love. Thank you.

  • @JackWalters696
    @JackWalters696 ปีที่แล้ว

    You two really outdid yourselves on the illustrations to this one. Really cool depictions all around lol

  • @tirasangue1
    @tirasangue1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd really love a big channel like yours to drop a video on Lorkhan and Talos. So many people are unaware of their connection in the lore, as well as Lorkhan's and Akatosh's relation to mankind, and the reason behind High Elves' animosity towards patron-gods of humanity. What Vivec writes about Lorkhan is also very interesting.

    • @BattlePants321
      @BattlePants321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you've never checked out FudgeMuppet they have some fantastic Elder Scrolls lore videos

  • @Hero_Of_Old
    @Hero_Of_Old ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this one Salt, like the new direction

  • @tessfairfield6435
    @tessfairfield6435 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d love to see a video discussing how things like the schools of magic and races of Nirn have changed throughout the series

  • @justinnyugen7015
    @justinnyugen7015 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the video, though I did get confused in some parts where you use the word "ancestor" when you really meant "descendant"

  • @Biodebatable
    @Biodebatable ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sheogorath vanilla oblivion quest is also fantastic, driving a whole town to madness with pranks, also hope there's a part 2 Coming going over Namira, Nocturnal, Hermeaus Mora, Sanguine, Peryite, Clavicus Vile, Vaermina & meridia

    • @Biodebatable
      @Biodebatable ปีที่แล้ว

      Vile's realm of late stage capitalism, scam and daedric artifacts that always seem to get away from him are fun. Nocturnal as the prince of night and thieves has artifacts that always seem to get stolen from her. And peryite taking the form of a dragon to hide his weakness is amazing.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Biodebatable pretty sure Akatosh must be pissed peryite is taking a form thats his kin lol

  • @grigger7000
    @grigger7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salt. You are so awesome! Having lunch while this is on is the best!

  • @ducksinthewild
    @ducksinthewild ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dagon is honestly my favorite. I've only played Skyrim but his chaotic nature and his selfish demeanor hooked me up while doing my first playthrough. While roleplaying a good mannered paladin kind of guy, the quest made me realize that it was at the end of the day, a game, and I could open up the way I act and play around at any point. An epiphany of sorts.

  • @JohnSmith-nh2te
    @JohnSmith-nh2te ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a wonderful video to find on my feed

  • @realzachfluke1
    @realzachfluke1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is about to be my favorite SF video yet, I already feel confident making that prediction.

  • @thelastcrow5660
    @thelastcrow5660 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Daedric Princes were always my favorite part of the series.

  • @zeeejay
    @zeeejay ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on the move! hope it went smoothly!

  • @fayyadhgamal2424
    @fayyadhgamal2424 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing is fire my dude i love it

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good looking animations! And fascinating topic too~

  • @The.One.True.B
    @The.One.True.B ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything you make I will watch. Do whatever feels right, maybe even a few things that don’t. This is good.

  • @TriHard7
    @TriHard7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome stuff, thanks salt

  • @rpg_haven
    @rpg_haven ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll watch anything you make a video on. Big fan of your style and approach

  • @nickbergtv
    @nickbergtv ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, new kind of content!

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It is nice to know that Dagon doesn't seem that bitter about losing in cyrodil when you meet him in skyrim

    • @Steineru_kun
      @Steineru_kun ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He didn't lose, he achieved his goals - dismantled Tamrielic current (back then) power structure and made Akatoshes lazy ass actually do their job - protect Nirn from oblivion invasions until "the end of times"

  • @isaacgraham8449
    @isaacgraham8449 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this kind of video man ❤️

  • @mcclickbait4943
    @mcclickbait4943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m pretty sure that “The Rim of All Holes” was also Salt’s nickname in college.

  • @saglamhamdi
    @saglamhamdi ปีที่แล้ว

    Another video, finally! Been waiting for a while for that voice of yours, man.

  • @DirtRider999
    @DirtRider999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clicked on this so fast !! Keep em coming !!!

  • @guts8139
    @guts8139 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos man, I considered myself a knowledgeable lore knower of elder scrolls but I didn’t know Mehrunes Dagon was made through Magnus accidentally making an alternate version of nirn, pretty cool

  • @notaflightreactsfan3706
    @notaflightreactsfan3706 ปีที่แล้ว

    ohhh snap, you know i been waiting for this one....better go grab some popcorn for this one!

  • @Tequniqes
    @Tequniqes ปีที่แล้ว +13

    HELLLL YEAAAAAH

  • @jakoby256
    @jakoby256 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ESO added a lot of depth and personality to these princes and since its considered canon, not sure why you'd avoid talking about it.

    • @rod9829
      @rod9829 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      >ESO
      >Canon
      Pick one bro

    • @jakoby256
      @jakoby256 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rod9829 I'm not quite sure what you mean. They confirmed everything in that game to be canon already.

  • @themaximainstitute4050
    @themaximainstitute4050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the video! As an aside I do recommend googling the difference between an ancestor and a descendant, lol.

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome lore video! More in this style?

  • @blifi77
    @blifi77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo man can you read my mind?!?! Seriously, lately i've been interested in exactly this topic and all the Daedra and now I see an new video about just?! Awesome, cant wait to watch all of it❤

  • @EnbyNomad
    @EnbyNomad ปีที่แล้ว

    Would LOVE more lore vids from you.

  • @sixtyminuteman2152
    @sixtyminuteman2152 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this concept Salt. Always liked your videos but this feels like what you should focus more on these concepts.

  • @VexedVergil
    @VexedVergil ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet! A elder scrolls video! One prince I would have like to see on this list is clavicus vile (sorry if I butchered the spelling) his way of monkey pawing things is both evil and somewhat entertaining

  • @Liquidsignz
    @Liquidsignz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The saltmaster is dipping his shaker into new topics! Cant wait to finish the video!

  • @yo3theguys980
    @yo3theguys980 ปีที่แล้ว

    Banger video man

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
    @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not your usual content, but I quite like this.

  • @lordofmud
    @lordofmud ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job.

  • @Serahpin
    @Serahpin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:00 "Not born. Shit into existence." -The Golgothan, Dogma (1999)

  • @awesomeblb3407
    @awesomeblb3407 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved the animation of the first part of the video it was really pretty

  • @justin9181
    @justin9181 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your back bro !! ❤

  • @HowlV1
    @HowlV1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting turn in content. I like it. Elder Scrolls lore is always interesting

  • @TMFIELD
    @TMFIELD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take a drink everytime salt says ancestor when he means descendant.

  • @MitoRequiem
    @MitoRequiem ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He lives

  • @ZurulianGroup
    @ZurulianGroup ปีที่แล้ว

    i laughed so hard at all of this, more than i should have. great vid.

  • @thegaminghippie9614
    @thegaminghippie9614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful, simply beautiful

  • @kzgames3023
    @kzgames3023 ปีที่แล้ว

    This being a short video to me now speaks volumes.

  • @lucaslobo2913
    @lucaslobo2913 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a horriple week thus far, thanks to your upload this is about to change. Thank you!

  • @yukiomishima9769
    @yukiomishima9769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you I appreciate the video 😊

  • @davidaragones2659
    @davidaragones2659 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you can do more videos like this 👍

  • @TheRunners06
    @TheRunners06 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, this is different. Very concise by Elder Scrolls lore videos standards, but still interesting with trademark humor and covers the important stuff. Well done.

  • @madithen
    @madithen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Morrowind has far and away the best version of Sheogorath. He presents himself as a prim and proper gentleman and doesn't yell "CHEESE!! I'll rip your liver out! I am very random!" in your face. At first his quest is just "go kill this creature for me" which seems just as stock as most other morrowind quests. Then you notice that the weapon you're supposed to use really is just a stupid fork and the beast can barely even fight back as you swipe at it, stabbing at the air like some lunatic. Then you go back and Sheogorath basically tells you "wow you looked pretty silly out there, I enjoyed that". If you had no idea he's the prince of madness it's a neat surprise.

  • @InquisitorXarius
    @InquisitorXarius ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My god the amount of inaccuracy in the lore is just perfect, peak salty. No Im not being sarcastic.

  • @c.jarmstrong3111
    @c.jarmstrong3111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro thank you!

  • @browzah
    @browzah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving this content. Learned more in this video, than all the wikis I’d tried to trying to absorb while playing the games.

  • @nonebeliever5321
    @nonebeliever5321 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos, and ik the witcher 3 video isnt coming out for at least a month just given how long your videos are and how much time that take to edit but I can't wait for it

  • @sentinalprimal8962
    @sentinalprimal8962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lore video hell ya. I wonder if salt will cover the some other deadra

  • @2010topdog
    @2010topdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love more of these tinier lore videos from you.
    One thing i want to mention about Malacath. I always kind of had a headcanon that Trinimac wasnt really dead. He got hurt by Boethiah sure, but Malacath may be a somewhat separate entity, similar to Sheo and Jyggalag.

  • @shawndonq135
    @shawndonq135 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t have a favorite daedric prince, but I do like the duality between aedra and daedra. For example, kynereth, the goddess of the sky and of nature. She represents nature in a pure, beautiful way. While hircine, the daedric prince of the hunt, defiles nature and would rather destroy and hunt kyne’s creations than anything else, and purely for the thrill of the hunt. It’s a lot of yin and Yang with the gods in the elder scrolls.

    • @ms.sysbit5511
      @ms.sysbit5511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love how Aedra barely have artifacts and rarely interfere with mortals yet daedra all have at least one and love to meddle. The contrasts really are quite pronounced and interesting.

    • @elijahwallace5300
      @elijahwallace5300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The two actually get along very well. From a purely philosophical standpoint, hunting is as much defiling nature as picking a carrot. A fox hunting a rabbit, IS nature. A bear destroying a bee hive for honey, IS nature. A human hunting a deer is just as sinister. To think it's somehow defiling nature is a purely ego driven and human-centric delusion. We're not separate or superior to the bear or fox, nor are our actions unnatural.

    • @elijahwallace5300
      @elijahwallace5300 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Aedra are the spirits that gave power to become the physical ground, time, nature, etc. Every step your TES character takes is on an Aedric artefact!

    • @ms.sysbit5511
      @ms.sysbit5511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elijahwallace5300 If that was the case (they made it but don’t count as Aedric artifacts), you wouldn’t need to retrieve Tiber Septim’s blood from Sancor Tor in Oblivion. His enshrined cuirass and Auriel’s Bow are among the very few recognized, Aedric artifacts.

  • @songbird6414
    @songbird6414 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Peryite has the easiest potential to completely change the world and I feel like he really doesn’t get enough attention.

    • @elijahwallace5300
      @elijahwallace5300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not really his thing. Daedra are more of a spiritual concept than a living entity with changing goals, morals, and ambitions. The only times that they change are in metaphysical adjustments to their roles. The Taskmaster taking charge and making changes... is not what a taskmaster does. Ya know?

  • @kidtruck9157
    @kidtruck9157 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this shit. You should definitely do more lore recaps, if it suits your interests.