Yumi and the Nightmare Painter Cosmere Connections
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2023
- Not sure how Tress is less significant than this. Well, this one does have a new Shard, but things happen in Tress.
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yeaaaaah when Yumi asked if people knew how it felt to have everyone relying on you and counting on you I felt like I was reading Brandon's diary
RIGHT?!?
One I wanted to add: in "Another Epilogue", Hoid says "Remember that time I got my memories stolen?”. Which is probably referring to TOdium's manipulation of his memory at the end of RoW
I first assumed it was treas of the emerald sea, but I think tedium makes more sense
Totally Todium, yup.
I love when an author let's us in on their lives and feelings, I feel like this book was a look in Brandon's head.
Totally agree. It felt *personal.*
This book has the biggest STORMING plot twist at the end!
It turns out the real Nightmares were inside us all along. Or something.
Aliyah Chen is the vessel of virtuosity
Can't argue with that!
I didn't interpret it as the creators of the machine awakened it themselves, rather they programed the machine to eat spirits and when it went overboard, it consumed so much Investiture that it awakened itself, following its programing like a Command.
Possible, though it would have to be at least Invested in some way to be able to interact with spirits.
No interpretation required. Hoid says it directly on page 432: "Let this be a lesson. When you Awaken a device like this, be very, *very* careful about what Commands you give it to follow."
Yes, Awaken and Commands are capitalized in the text.
@@TheCosmerenaut Well, certain metals interact with investiture in funny and useful ways. I'm sure there's some set up that can be done to allow it to interact with spirits. (I am assuming spirits are made out of investiture like Spren). They did say they needed a spirit to get it started, so that work as the initial investment.
9:40
This was confirmed to be the latter by Brandon on the Shard cast where they interviewed him.
Awakening is a fundamental thing that Investiture can do.
I knew I was on to something!
This was sucha fantastic book
So GOOD!
Your work on this channel is amazing. I just finished this book and I love it, but I'm with you, Tress is my favorite of the secret novels. I'm not the best to pick up the connections, so I appreciate your work immensely.
I'm glad my videos are helpful!
In The Lost Metal, Shai asks Marasi what she would do if she held one of 16 unique and invaluable paintings. And Marasi's response was that she would hide it so mistery would make it even more appealing.
I think Brandon will do something similar to the 16th shard. Revealing it only in the end game.
Yep! We know it’s intent but that’s it!
I don't think it's Intent, as that's too overarching. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Dawnshard called Intent though.
@@TheCosmerenaut I Meant we know the shards intent is wisdom or prudence sorry not that it’s called Intent. But definitely think could be a dawnshard with intent or will or something.
you are hands down the best cosmere content creator. Was pumped for this vid
Wow, thanks!
Even if I didn't know this book was written during lockdown, I would have guessed it was, because at that time media talked about those unsung heroes, like Walmart employees (and nurses and so on), would still make sure there was food on the shelves for everyone despiute being paid like shit... Kinda like Nightmare Painters
That was an excellent callout, absolutely.
One thing I noticed was corrupted soul-investiture became black smoky shadows. This is similar to what Nightblood is, it eats souls and spews dark stuff (might be a coincidence, might be related to souls being consumed). Nightblood and the Father Machine are colossal fuck-ups with investing and giving a vauge command to an inanimate object(and perhaps both are awakening fuck-ups of collossal scale).
And most importantly, If i remember correctly, the world, Komashi, is more terrifying and terrible than THRENODY. Threnody, the world messed up royally by Ambition and Odium clashing and Ambition's power getting chunks ripped off. This is terrifying, especially if my theory above is true for nightblood, as nightblood's capacity might be planet devastating if so.(It can collapse a perpendicularity already, so I guess thats not too far off)
Most importantly to this nightblood theory is the fact that nightblood's command is "Destroy Evil" which because it doesnt know what Evil is, It translates to "Destroy" and thus its command is far, FAR worse than the Father Machine's.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Nightblood is terrifying.
Brandon Sanderson has described all the things that look like weird black smoke, so Nightblood, the Nightmares, and the Nightmothers creations, are what it looks like when investiture is taken from one source to be used for something else
Just finished it the other day and man was I ever WAY OFF on my ideas of what was going on. I was thinking that Yumi and Painter were from the same planet except one from the physical realm and the other from the cognitive realm - like how people live in the cognitive realm in places - and that they were on a mission to reunite the planet into one. UNITE THEM!!!!
Near the end Yumi Commands the Scholars and they flood with color, I think it's safe to assume at least Yumi can Awaken.
Awakening is becoming a more generalized mechanic, absolutely.
Absolutely cannot wait for SP4. And Stormlight 5. And Mistborn era 3. And Elantra’s sequels.
Whenever we approach a strormlight book I get obsessed with the Cosmere all over again. And I don’t think we can be too hyped for SA5.
Things are going to *happen* in Stormlight 5. I'm excited, yet terrified.
Finally finished it, and it actually got me back into reading.
Awesome!
@TheCosmerenaut Also, the Father Machine and Nightblood definitely has a connection to Ruin, (black smoke is Ruin's Investiture) and the nightmares feel similar to Re-Shephir, the Midnight Mother. Shallan thinks that she/it might have been human, feeling that it was "searching for something it itself had lost."
Oh I've got *theories* about Re-Shephir!
I want to watch this SO BAD, but I haven’t read the book yet. I was waiting for my library to get the Ebook, and they updated it onto the website WHILE I WAS ASLEEP so by the time I saw it all the copies were checked out and there were over 20 holds on it.
Anyway, I’m considering just buying it because otherwise I won’t get to read it for another three months.
I can’t wait to come back after I read it and watch this vid though!!!
It'll be waiting for you!
Finally got to Yumi myself and immediately after finishing it here I am checking your video on how many connections I missed.
Really enjoyed this secret project, but I also still like Tress more.
So how many did you catch?
didn't count them. Maybe I should do that when I fnally get my Sunlit Man copy@@TheCosmerenaut
I saw a meme saying that Yumi is a "japanized" War breaker... 🤦 They are not even similar. Yumi was just delightful. Tress is still my favorite SP, BUT this was wonderful at every turn anyway.
I agree. There's something about Tress that puts it over the top for me - probably just my deep and abiding love for Princess Bride.
hey! where di d you get... any of the artwork on the wall behind you? i just bought a Yumi print, but need more cosmere art!!
Most of those were actually done by a friend of mine as gifts, but the big one of Vin and Elend in the middle is by Miranda Meeks, available from Dragonsteel: www.dragonsteelbooks.com/products/defending-preservation-poster
Re nightblood, Brandon has since said that Hoid would not go near it since it eats investiture.
Facts.
*waves* Hey Steve~!! Can't wait for the LOTR Magic Cards video.
This Friday! I don't get too specific on them, but it's definitely fun.
Where can I find the art from that shirt? It's awesome. Harry Potter vs The Doctor is not something I knew I needed but there it is.
It was the perfect colors for this video! If you google "priori incanfandom" there are options that come up.
@@TheCosmerenaut Sweet! Thanks! Love your videos BTW.
Thank you!
I love Elantris very much, I can see some issues, but it's still pretty good. Warbreaker is excellent. The only Sanderson's books I couldn't handle (don't bully me, please) is Stormlight archive. It started off well, I loved some characters, developed attachments and then, somewhere in book two it started going down the hill. So, I was worried about trying to read Elantris and Warbreaker and was very pleasantly surprised.
Stormlight definitely has its own challenges; it's huge, and the learning curve for the world and characters and societies is STEEP. It took me a few tries to get into Elantris initially, so I'd recommend picking it up again when you've got the bandwidth for it!
I just finished Yumi and now I furiously need to eat Ramen
Have you seen the bowls from Dragonsteel? They're in-universe canon!
@@TheCosmerenaut I've just checked. OMG want one so badly! but at 60 UDS+shipping, that is a bit expansive
Yeah, they're definitely pricey for dishware.
Theory about how the machine was “awakened” was that it was following orders. It was like an ai. With the orders. Build stone towers then suck in souls.
Also as I reading I felt a large amount of shade getting cast at AI art and writing not going to lie. Big machine nearly destroys an artist but she fights back and wins because of how natural her art was.
AI = Awakened Item
I just finished Yumi. I'm actually more confused after watching this video and the Tress video because I understood almost none of the things you talked about. And I've read everything (or at least thought I did). I need to go find a Cosmere for dummies guide.
I can help you out! There's other videos about the basic concepts of investiture and realmatic theory earlier in my posts. Or join my discord and ask all the questions you want!
7:44 i just recently saw a Q/A with brandon where he answered that the investiture in the Dor is closest to plasma, no idea whether he's stuck with that though.
Oh the Dor is definitely a plasma storm in the Cognitive Realm, but that's more of an exception than the rule. Weird things happened to make the Dor that way.
Oh my god the Raman in the background ! 😂
I like adding those details like that :)
@@TheCosmerenaut it makes your videos so fun!
The moon scepter changed the investiture to what is needed.
As far as we know Hoid still has the Moon Scepter.
6:11 I think I missed this one. What is the lesson Hoid is talking about here?
Have you finished Rhythm of War?
Brandon said in a interview the 17th shard that "awakening" here is like light weaving I e something multiple cosmere magic systems have there own angle on
I was so excited when he confirmed that! Now I just want to know what else Breath can be used for.
Have you ever done a video on Savantism for Allomancy??? Like Wax's steel bubble?
Edit: Sanderson has come out and said the steel bubble is not savantism. Savantism has to have a downside, and his bubble doesn't. Apparently, it is a side effect of mixing 2 powers called a resonance and why shallan has a photographic memory.
I mentioned it in my Allomancy video, but there's definitely more to it that I can dive into. I'll add it to the list!
Remember she imprinted her form onto his body for quite a while. His body *was* her(s). You could say that, in the end, he (his body) manifested her out of pure "muscle memory". As with bamboo.
Absolutely true. I like that.
One thing I didn't quite get:
It was explained, that Painters body conformed and changed to match Yumi when she inhabited it because of how strongly invested she is, while the same is not true for Painter inhabiting her body. But then how come Painters body transformed back right away when their connection got cut? It's not like Painter would have sufficient investiture to fuel this transformation.
His own spiritweb would have been trying to get him back into his own body, but Yumi's overinvestedness was preventing it. Think of it like a spring: Yumi was pushing the spring into a different direction, but as soon as she wasn't there anymore to push, it naturally went back to normal. His getting his own body back wasn't fueled so much as it was reverted.
I thought it was confirmed that the shard hold turned down was endowment, and that is why Edgli bears so much contempt for him?
There's a WoB saying he'd be tempted by Endowment, but nothing was confirmed. Also that was before we knew about Virtuosity, so it could have just been Brandon hedging his answer with our limited information.
@@TheCosmerenaut I see, thanks for clearing that up for me
let's go
We went!
As Painter's world is based on modern Japan, the word Hion would follow Japanese rules.
So it is pronounced like He Own.
Rather than High On.
That's right, thank you! Here lies another victim of not listening to the audiobook.
Nightblood has a cousin now??!!!!!!!
He's learning from The Lopen.
Had a cousin, he's dead now, fortunately.
"Design, who doesn't have a real body. We all learned our lesson on that." I think I'm dense, I'm not sure what this is referencing. Is it the way Painter's body snaps back into his shape at the end?
I think it's referencing Ishar's experiments on Spren in Rhythm of War
I think he's referring to kelsier
Have you read Rhythm of War? We've seen hints of what's going on, but nothing fully until at least Stormlight 5.
That Rhythm of War scene is one of the creepiest in the Cosmere.
@@danehardy1898 Facts.
I doubt you were as Invested as Yumi
It's hard to get as Invested as her.
Take a break it’ll give us time to catch up no truer words have ever been said
The man writes faster than we can read.
Wait there are 13 OTHER yoki-hijo? I thought there were 13 total, including Yumi
There are 14 total, it never said 13.
14 total, 13 other, 16 maximum.
You think the word virtuoso is unrelated to virtue?
It is etymologically connected.
So Hoid and Design are banging, right?
oh i didn’t even consider this. i didn’t get romantic vibes from them but maybe!
I can neither confirm nor deny. ;)
Masaka has trans vibes. That is all.
Given they're made up of literally millions of smaller individuals, I don't think Dysian Aimians would have one single gender identity. So, sure!
@@TheCosmerenaut I’m not saying she’s literally trans, it’s mostly how she wants to be considered human (and a cute girl) and not what the other painters would consider as inhuman. She’s in the situation of a trans woman who passes and doesn’t want to be outed to her friends. She’s not trans, she’s trans-*coded.*