My personal theory is that all god metals have the same hemalurgic application, they just connect you to different gods Atium connects you to Ruin but in a stronger way than the 16 base metals Lerasium connects you to Preservation (imagine if it was Leras in your head instead of Ati) Trellium connects you to Autonomy And so on
Ok, hear me out: What if you spiked enough people to get spikes for all allomantic/feruchemical powers, gave someone those powers, and then took the powers from them using a lerasium spike. This could be a way to "condense" different spikes together. It is also possible you could make a more potent spike by giving someone many of the same kind, and then spiking them to condense all of those different sections of spiritweb into one spike. This could be a way to get around being controlled by a shard, and also how Paalm managed to create the Chimeras with only one spike (Trellium likely can steal all attributes in the same way lerasium steals all abilities). I have more theories: The "linchpin" spike of the Inquisitors is actually a spike that steals stability (similar to the Kandra blessing), stabilizing their spiritweb (hence why no one had figured out how to control inquisitors despite their number of spikes seeming to make so any Soother or Roiter would be able to). Other theories: When ingested, lerasium grants all allomantic powers. When alloyed with another metal, it grants that specific metal's allomantic power (but you can get more power from it because you are increasing the volume of metal you have when alloying). What would happen if you used an alloyed lerasium spike hemalurgically? I think that it could grant hemalurgic knowledge of that particular metal (though that is a bit of a wild guess). Last theory: What would happen if you took two spikes and alloyed them together? (This cannot happen with the base metals, so it must be with at least one god metal) Would it just be like having both spikes, or would it merge them into something special? I personally think that they would merge, as it has been repeated multiple times as a theme that alloys are more than the sum of their parts, but I do not know how they would merge.
Interesting theories! That first one would be a pretty inefficient way to get all the Metallic Arts, because with each spike you'd lose a little bit of the ability through Hemalurgic Decay. We also haven't really gotten confirmation on how effective stealing an ability previously stolen by a spike would be. That sounds like a solid possibility of what the linchpin spike does. I think it would make most sense if a lerasium alloy stole all possible things of the alloyed metal, making it able to get all four metals from an allomantic or feruchemical quadrant in a single metal. Brandon has actually said that alloying two invested metals together would probably make the investiture inaccessible: wob.coppermind.net/events/331/#e9403
Me: if Hoid used a bendslloy spike to steal some feruchemical powers, made a connection/duralumin mind with Design, un-keyed the metallmind and made a sword, would that effectively make it a makeshift honorblade? Employee: sir, this is a Wendy’s Edit: he sort of mentioned it at the end, but I think it’s very plausible that this is something similar to what honor did to make the HBs, but maybe from himself somehow
@@TheCosmerenaut imagine someone just finds like a sword in the ground, and it’s just Design’s snarky voice. Would we even hear the spren? I guess we just need to read and find out
Spoilers... Also the hemalergic thing that interests me the most is the thought that you could take someone's identity. But that is because we have characters like Shallan who have separate identitys could a spike take a single one? Could you use a spike to take Vale and put her into someone else?
Thats a very good question dude. I think we need to know if Shallan, Veil and Radiant, share the same spiritual web, or each of theme has a different one, i think know that is a key to answer your question
Your videos are by far the best explanations for the magic systems that I've seen. Thanks for taking the time to research and make these. It would be cool to see hemalurgy explored in the future, like with stealing aviar powers or sand mastery. Maybe making almost an ultimate invested being that could wield all manner of powers.
Those steel inquisitors are the scariest things in the cosmere, other than maybe ruin or odium. I remember reading mistborn and those things are both creepy and powerful.
The image of someone walking around with literal nails through their eyes definitely sticks with you. The Threnody shades are certainly scary, but less visceral in my opinion.
You know, I've been on a huge Sanderson binge lately and started listening to a lot of different content creators about the cosmere. You are by far my favorite. Love your personality and your well-researched presentation of information.
2:03 Yeah, that makes sense since allomantic symbols look like sickles or unclosed circles, pierced with spikes, with addiction of a dot, what would respectively represent: body, spike and bind point.
God, you've just explained hemalurgy in 5 seconds with that stapler... Brilliant! Also thank you for putting an order for all the things i do know about hemalurgy, great video.
“This drink is spiked” made me spit out my coffee all over my car. This might be my favorite video yet!!! ^_^ I wanna see a villain who goes around collecting all the powers and Creating sentient cats. Also! If someone were to spike you could they steal all your knowledge of the Cosmere? Or can you not steal memories? What about memories stored in breaths? O_o See!!? What a cool rabbit hole. Thanks man!
According to Brandon, there may actually BE someone who is collecting powers via Hemalurgy. wob.coppermind.net/events/120/#e1831 And not that I encourage it, but you could totally spike out someone's knowledge or memories. That's what copper's for!
Hemalurgy is f*cking terrifying! The fact that it can steel investiture, connection, identity, and someone’s very ability to use investiture is quite concerning. We all know that Brandon will take advantage of this at some point, and I can’t decide if I’m looking forward to reading about it, or if I dread it!
One more theory about hemalurgy: since hemalurgic chromium may steal destiny, and feruchemic chromium stores fortune, I bet that "destiny" is a cosmereic trait that has to do with fortune somehow. Therefore, if you could spike Hoid with chromium, could you maybe take his place as a world hopping adventurer, and use his fortune related abilities to go where he would go?
@@TheCosmerenaut my guess is that they are somewhat related, but that they are still distinct, like with how Connection and Identity are related, and how they can be use together to make some interesting affects.
Excellent work as always! Love your visualizations and comparisons! The ability to steal the use of invested arts and identity has some fascinating implications! I agree the this will be very important going forward in the Cosmere.
The idea that Aluminum spikes remove a blockage from the donor is pretty fascinating. Does that mean there might be non-lethal ways to grant artificial investiture abilities?
@@TheCosmerenaut So I've read both mistborn eras, as well as secret history following Kelsier, where should I go next? I have a copy of Elantris and Way of Kings. Also where do you find all these art works and charts?
If you already have Elantris but haven't read it, that should definitely be your next step. I'm working on a reading order video right now, in which I will recline further for you.
Oh, and the Hemalurgy chart was released in the leatherbound of Hero of Ages. Most of the art I use is fan art by the various artists I list in the description. Some is official art, specifically for this, that I pulled from the Mistborn Adventure Game manuals.
I always like how Preservation requires you to burn something up, and Ruin give the people a way to keep powers around. Feels like they were trying to mimic their other half with each of their magic systems.
Wait, we've seen hemalurgy on Roshar? I'm probably missing something obvious - I assume this is something besides when Nale stapled SzethSoul back to himself? P.S. fully retweet that Shardcast should have you on
Nope, not missing anything obvious. Brandon has said that hemalurgy has appeared on screen in the Stormlight Archive, but in a subtle way. We're still not sure exactly where.
Hemalurgy is my favorite of the three metalic arts, and even from The Cosmere in general (I don't know what it said about me jaja), so I really apreciate this video, thanks. Also, your Alumin theory blow op my head. Sorry if there are any mistakes, english is'nt my first lenguage.
@@TheCosmerenaut I know that lol, but a Premiere means you get to interact with a live chat. Also, I just wanna learn more about getting spiked in Scadrial, and I don't just mean Hemalurgically ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I now have in my head a sort of arms race where an Aluminium Gnat stores all of their identity, and then a Hemalurgist tries to spike that identity out of them. No idea if it would work that way but still makes one thinks. Also I believe it is Canon that while ascended Rashek had an instinctive understanding of basic Hemalurgy despite it being the metallic art most opposed to Preservations nature. It makes me wonder if that is why he only figured out a couple of ways to use it himself? Which suggests Harmony knows a lot more tricks already and adds to the explanation of why other shards would be scared of him. MY other genuine theory is that in some way Nightblood is in fact a Hemalurgical construct. It is always devouring energy and seems so much more alive than other awakened constructs. But I can easily see the combining of Breath and Hemalurgy to create a type 4 awakened entity being possible.
Aluminum gnat vs duralumin spike would be an interesting matchup. Rashek had a comparatively miniscule time with the power, so while he learned a lot about Hemalurgy he only was able to implement the little bit we saw. I guess you could consider Nightblood as a hemalurgic construct, but only insomuch as it's an invested piece of metal. He's not charged with a specific attribute and he doesn't experience hemalurgic decay.
@@TheCosmerenaut My thought is that the combination of both Breath and Hemalurgic charge interact to prevent the decay as such. We do know that investiture is somewhat transferable like how stormlight can sub for breaths for Awakened. And 1000 breaths is a lot of investiture
While it's true that hemalurgy can be used anywhere, Brandon has said it wouldn't be discovered by accident on another Shardworld. The Five Scholars did go worldhopping, but it would have been incredibly difficult to observe and learn about Hemalurgy in the middle of the Lord Ruler's reign. I like your thoughts, but I don't think it would be possible.
Hoodoo BOY! Have I been waiting for this one. Hemalurgy is my favorite metallic art to theorize about. You actually touched on something I was wondering about a bit. Namely, could a spike be used to steal talents such as drawing, singing, or marksmanship? Imagine if, in the second Era of mistborn, there was a guy who went around stealing people's marksmanship skill. Like maybe he has a single spike that he has gotten really good at using repeatedly. He takes it out, spikes his target, then drives it right back into himself. If a woman, this could possibly be done through seducing them until she can go in for a hug and spiking them in the back. If done quickly enough, it might result in a net-gain of ability. And if that person happens to be a ferochemist who can use tin for sight, they could conceivably become able to hit a target from hundreds or even thousands of yards. And they would have a perfect alibi because "nobody can kill a man half a mile away with just a handgun".
If it's possible to spike a cat to make it smarter, I'm SURE it would be possible to steal conventional talents. As for what metal to use or where to place it, that I have no idea.
Tineye snipers equipped with hemalergic spikes is terrifying. You could hit enemy magic users with aluminum, removing there abilitys from them (the ulimate haze killer round), or worse, hit them with duralumin and implant them with someone elses identity. Aluminum as a metal isnt a bad choice at range either, its light and soft, a bad sniper round for sure, but unlikely to just fly right through them. I guess you could with other metals, makes me wonder what shape the spike has to be in on impact, would a hollow point still count?
@@TheCosmerenaut Spiking Odium's boon out of Moash to get insensitivity to pain without being controlled by Odium. Hey, we found an actual use for Moash!
Interesting... Hemalurgy was always the magic system I had the most trouble grasping, so this video helped a lot. It certainly has a lot of interesting implications that I can't wait to see expanded upon in future Mistborn books. I'd also forgotten all about the Hemalurgic chimeras, but according to the wiki they only appeared briefly in one of the books. They certainly show the scary untapped potential of Hemalurgy.
Thinking about hemalurgy too much always makes me regret my 5 piercings, although they’re titanium so I should be good? It’s odd that titanium and platinum aren’t used in the magic system, but whatevs. Also it’s odd that nobody reacts to the spikes physically (I can’t wear cheap steel earrings due to a nickle allergy) so the magic inherent in the hemalurgy must prevent tetanus and allergic reactions. They can shift organs so why not Anyway I think stealing identity is the most interesting use of hemalurgy. It’s what made Emperor’s Soul such a compelling story. Although the idea that transferring spikes from person to person to person takes pieces of who are is fascinating and not something I’d considered before. It’s got interesting implications for koloss and koloss blooded people in era 2
The most interesting thing Hemalurgy does in my mind is enabled when combined with the Medallions, specifically those made of Gold and charged with Ferruchemic healing. This potential to mass produce spikes would enable more people to participate in the process of finding ways to make Invested Arts helpful, rather than having the intense hierarchies we see around the Cosmere so far.
I think it'd be really difficult to mass produce spikes even with gold medallions. While we know that feruchemical gold is able to heal spiritual damage, I don't think the amount of healing stored in a medallion would be enough to replace what would be lost to a spike, or at least not repeatedly.
I was under the impression that a spike always killed the donor. I could be wrong, especially considering it turns all metal spikes into a shard blade when mixed with intent. Would also have made the lord ruler ease to kill.
Do you think that hemalurgy could permanently kill a fused? For example, if you stole their power to use investiture, they would need tons of power to regain it, but the fused are worse at healing than the radiants. Maybe stealing their connection to Odium would prove more effective? Or since that's more an attribute and less a power, it would be easier to heal? What are your thoughts on this?
Steve! I love your videos man, great job! Always fun and engaging, and Wit-ty :) This one was really helpful in regards to Mistborn lore. I was wondering if you could make a video explaining all of the cross-investiture uses among the Cosmere? For example, where in the Stormlight Archives did we see Hemalurgy, and on other planets, where did we see uses of non-native investiture? Thanks for your hard work and research! P.S. A video on Nightblood would be awesome ;)
This is incredible! Thank you for the insight. I'm setting up a Mistborn campaign finally! (I didn't want to start until I got through Hero of Ages) This video really helps develop storylines that I have been thinking about. I wanted to make a character who was a blind lurcher, who was tortured as a child by his master Nobleman who oversaw farmlands. The child caught the sadistic Nobleman in the act of overtaking his mother and as punishment blinded by two needles that were also used to kill his mother. Which granted him the access to not only see people as metal lines, but also heightened senses working in tandem. Kinda like a Misting Dare-Devil character. This character also suffers from severe nightmares of a dark, gravelly voice chanting to him to 'kill'. What do you think? Any wholes in the operation of spikes? Have you thought of running your own Mistborn campaign with your followers?
That sounds really cool! I like the image of a lurcher who can basically web-swing on iron lines. I assume he'd still have needles in his eyes then? Which would have to be tin, in order to steal senses. I'm not sure if that would necessarily work canonically - the needles might be too small to grant allomantic sight - but it could totally work in the RPG! I just recently got copies of all of the expansion rulebooks, so I'll be starting up a campaign soon!
Thank you for replying! It's fun to nerd out with not only a small friend group who love Sanderson, but also a content creator like yourself. Your enthusiasm and indepth explanations are very enjoyable 😁
Yeah, I usually have someone else check to make sure I'm framed correctly before I record, but I snuck the filming of this in between baby naps so I was a bit in a hurry. Once I started editing I figured it was close enough, and I didn't want to reshoot the whole thing.
Speaking of aluminum could it be wrapped around a sphere to stop or slow Stormlight leakage? Could Kelsier jump into an aluminum box and be carried away from Scandrial? Would that "hide" him from the anchor effect? If it did work and he climbed out of the box in say Roshar Shadesmar, would he snap back to Scadrial instantly? Or would he Connect to Roshar? If a spirit of a just deceased person that appears in the Cognitive Realm were placed in such a box, would they be stopped from being pulled to the Beyond? Damn the implications are deep.
@@TheCosmerenaut i listen to the audiobooks, so no problems for pronunciations! Personally I think the Sanderson missed a great opportunity to spell feruchemy as ferrochemy (iron-chemistry), since that's how it sounds anyways!
It's my understanding that not all inquisitors had feruchemical abilities, and even those that did were intentionally kept in the dark about compounding even being a possibility. The Lord Ruler kept a very tight leash on his servants.
Unlikely, because they didn't have the technology necessary to be able to purify many of the metals listed. It was at least Brandon's intent for it to be from Era 2, though Isaac may have adjusted that. wob.coppermind.net/events/331/#e9430
Hey, I was wondering, it can be dangerous for someone who is hemalurgicly spiked to remove their spikes because it could kill depending on where they are placed, but if you had a feruchemical gold spike that could heal you, would you be able to remove them and then just heal from the injuries? Could a steel Inquisitor perhaps revert back to being human again by removing their spikes, healing the damage to their body and soul one spike at a time?
One application of hemalurgy that I was wondering about: if you can steal innate attributes from people, such as strength or intelligence, would you get more of a hemalurgic charge in your spikes if you stole the attributes from someone who was buff and muscular or highly intelligent? For instance, if you were to spike Jasnah for her intelligence, would you get more of an attribute from her than some random person off the street?
As long as it's in their spiritweb, I think it's fair game! We know you'd get less from a Drab and more from an Elantrian, so it would make sense that individual variation of basic attributes would impact the strength of the hemalurgic charge.
@@jonathanstott3957 From the outside, it's indistinguishable. If it happens to you, I'm sure you'll notice a difference, even if you-after-the-transfer will swear up and down that there is none.
1. What would be the possible effects if a mistborn Burns a hemalurgic spike? 2. When creating a hemalurgic spike, should the process itself kill the victim? What I mean to say is, a spike in the leg may not kill a person, but hemalurgic points does exist there. So how exactly should the victim die? 3. Further, we have seen cases where some hemalurgic spikes were created "accidentally" (Spook getting his pewter allomancy). So is it possible to accidentally create hemalurgic spike? Or is there a specific process to create one other than sticking a metal spike in a person? 4. Totally unrelated to hemalurgy, what would happen to Spren of an object when that object is broken? For ex, when a stick is broken and " becomes" two sticks.
Nice questions! 1. Brandon's said burning a spike would splice your spiritual DNA with the spiritual DNA contained in the spike, so weird things could occur. 2. We have conflicting info on whether or not hemalurgy always results in death. Harmony says yes, but Brandon says no. 3. It is impossible to accidentally spike a person. Intent is required, and without it it's just a stab wound. In the case with Spook, Ruin itself was providing the intent. 4. The Stormfather actually talks about this in Oathbringer. When am object breaks - "dies" - in the physical realm, it's cognitive representation still exists as whole for as long as it is remembered as whole. Once that object is only thought of as its pieces, he imagines it dissolving. In world, it would probably be argued that the spren of the object is also broken up into smaller spren for each piece.
Hey, I was wondering; if you could awaken a hemalurgic spike with the right command, could it continue to gain strength beyond what a normal spike could, and then impart that strength to whomever was then spiked with it? We know that Nightblood has significantly more investiture than a radiant's shard-blade, and those are entirely made up of investiture. Also, it seems that the number of spikes in your body are what open you up to outside influence, not the amount of raw investiture in those spikes, since those ear rings that Harmony uses seem to work just fine.
Awakening a spike would be really difficult, because it's already heavily invested. But if you did manage it, it would be wacky. wob.coppermind.net/events/69/#e5915
Do you think you can spike a spren to a lifeless and forge a physical realm connection to allow them to exist in the physical unbonded, i think the survivor is precedent for it.
As someone who has read all 6 Mistborn books and all 4 Stormlight books, I am still super confused but excited I am most curious about what stealing someone's identity would result in, do you develop multiple personalities like Shallan or is you mind fundamentally altered
It's really interesting to think you could steal someone's destiny and use it yourself or give it to another. But does that mean the person who lost their destiny could make a new destiny or are they more stagnant in what they accomplish?
@@TheCosmerenaut you are absolutely correct about them being dead. I was just having a brain fart thinking that it was more like the medallions and not the spikes.
@@TheCosmerenaut I struggle with this question because we have seen MULTIPLE people glimpse destinies and possible destinies... Lightsong using breaths seem to see what he was meant to do and what he was reborn to accomplish. But this offers a bunch of questions... If I hemalergically spiked Lightsong and stole his destiny... What really would I gain? Maybe it would affect my luck slightly? Maybe I would be more likely to accomplish something someone else was likely to do. But for instance, what if I stole Lightsongs destiny but didn't also hemalergically steal his breath (or already have one)? Would that destiny be void? To what extent does destiny play in the cosmere as a spiritual force...? I am very excited to see what Brandon does with this.
Another weird thing is the choice of saying destiny, rather than Fortune. Because we have at least somewhat of an inkling as to what that means. Destiny is really amorphous.
A guy walks up to an Inquisitor and say, "Excuse me, but there's something in your eye." The Inquisitor beats the guy to death. The guy should have known Inquisitors only like knock knock jokes.
So to steal powers from other worlds than than the world you're native to, you would need to steal the connection to the shard of that world? Is it possible to steal a power from someone, but then fuel the magic with another shard's power because you have a connection to that shard?
I need an intelligence spike to process all this information... how do you do it?? also thank you again, every video in your channel was a pleasure to watch, and i would definitely recommend them to anyone who wants to know more about the cosmere.
I think it would be cool for an Awakener to use an altered cloak like wings, while storing physical weight in an ironmind to actually be able to get off the ground
Spike the entire crew with allomantic steel and duralumin then take off from a metal platform? Basically however it's done via allomancy/feruchemy it could be made to happen hemalurgically.
In with an opening joke: nailed it!
On point, as usual.
@@TheCosmerenaut now you get the point
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I'm pretty proud of that one too!
@@TheCosmerenaut now you need to look the the comments and ‘pin’ the best joke or pun
My personal theory is that all god metals have the same hemalurgic application, they just connect you to different gods
Atium connects you to Ruin but in a stronger way than the 16 base metals
Lerasium connects you to Preservation (imagine if it was Leras in your head instead of Ati)
Trellium connects you to Autonomy
And so on
With what we saw in The Lost Metal, that theory definitely has validity.
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Radiants: I'll take your entire stock!
Seriously. If anyone could benefit from some mental fortitude!
@@TheCosmerenaut Somehow I think Kaladin would object to receiving a Hemalurgic spike. Can't possibly imagine why.
I think Syl would probably object more.
Ok, hear me out:
What if you spiked enough people to get spikes for all allomantic/feruchemical powers, gave someone those powers, and then took the powers from them using a lerasium spike. This could be a way to "condense" different spikes together. It is also possible you could make a more potent spike by giving someone many of the same kind, and then spiking them to condense all of those different sections of spiritweb into one spike. This could be a way to get around being controlled by a shard, and also how Paalm managed to create the Chimeras with only one spike (Trellium likely can steal all attributes in the same way lerasium steals all abilities).
I have more theories:
The "linchpin" spike of the Inquisitors is actually a spike that steals stability (similar to the Kandra blessing), stabilizing their spiritweb (hence why no one had figured out how to control inquisitors despite their number of spikes seeming to make so any Soother or Roiter would be able to).
Other theories:
When ingested, lerasium grants all allomantic powers. When alloyed with another metal, it grants that specific metal's allomantic power (but you can get more power from it because you are increasing the volume of metal you have when alloying). What would happen if you used an alloyed lerasium spike hemalurgically? I think that it could grant hemalurgic knowledge of that particular metal (though that is a bit of a wild guess).
Last theory:
What would happen if you took two spikes and alloyed them together? (This cannot happen with the base metals, so it must be with at least one god metal) Would it just be like having both spikes, or would it merge them into something special? I personally think that they would merge, as it has been repeated multiple times as a theme that alloys are more than the sum of their parts, but I do not know how they would merge.
Interesting theories! That first one would be a pretty inefficient way to get all the Metallic Arts, because with each spike you'd lose a little bit of the ability through Hemalurgic Decay. We also haven't really gotten confirmation on how effective stealing an ability previously stolen by a spike would be.
That sounds like a solid possibility of what the linchpin spike does.
I think it would make most sense if a lerasium alloy stole all possible things of the alloyed metal, making it able to get all four metals from an allomantic or feruchemical quadrant in a single metal.
Brandon has actually said that alloying two invested metals together would probably make the investiture inaccessible: wob.coppermind.net/events/331/#e9403
@@TheCosmerenaut Cool! Thanks for responding to my comment!
You're welcome!
What if a spike was made out of multiple metals in the same way the bands of mourning were? Would you steal multiple abilities?
I want to say... Probably?
Me: if Hoid used a bendslloy spike to steal some feruchemical powers, made a connection/duralumin mind with Design, un-keyed the metallmind and made a sword, would that effectively make it a makeshift honorblade?
Employee: sir, this is a Wendy’s
Edit: he sort of mentioned it at the end, but I think it’s very plausible that this is something similar to what honor did to make the HBs, but maybe from himself somehow
I can very easily imagine this interaction and it's incredible.
@@TheCosmerenaut imagine someone just finds like a sword in the ground, and it’s just Design’s snarky voice. Would we even hear the spren? I guess we just need to read and find out
Spoilers... Also the hemalergic thing that interests me the most is the thought that you could take someone's identity. But that is because we have characters like Shallan who have separate identitys could a spike take a single one? Could you use a spike to take Vale and put her into someone else?
That's super intriguing! They're totally different identities, so it would make sense that you could spike one out!
It’s veil lol
@@somekidwithaphone3345 Darn that auto correct... LoL
@@lonsunocook ikr
Thats a very good question dude. I think we need to know if Shallan, Veil and Radiant, share the same spiritual web, or each of theme has a different one, i think know that is a key to answer your question
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Does anyone remember that 17th shard thread about creating a beaver with the abilities of the Lord Ruler?
Ah, the infamous Hemalurgic Beaver thread. Yeah, that one got weird.
As someone who joined the fandom in 2019, I have heard it spoken of with mythological reverence
Your videos are by far the best explanations for the magic systems that I've seen. Thanks for taking the time to research and make these. It would be cool to see hemalurgy explored in the future, like with stealing aviar powers or sand mastery. Maybe making almost an ultimate invested being that could wield all manner of powers.
Apparently there may be someone collecting magic systems via Hemalurgy... wob.coppermind.net/events/120/#e1831
@@TheCosmerenaut Nice.
DUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!
Any ideas who? Kelsier? Chiri chiri?
Those steel inquisitors are the scariest things in the cosmere, other than maybe ruin or odium. I remember reading mistborn and those things are both creepy and powerful.
Yeah, when I read Mistborn, I knew that I had found the ultimate monster type for my D&d campaign. It was glorious.
The whole planet of Threnody is scarier if you ask me.
The image of someone walking around with literal nails through their eyes definitely sticks with you. The Threnody shades are certainly scary, but less visceral in my opinion.
I haven't read the shadows for silence yet
Ooh, it's good!
Hemalugy is a very interesting magic. I am looking forward to the compounding video, I need a refresher on it before the next book Mistborn comes out!
It will DEFINITELY be out before then!
You know, I've been on a huge Sanderson binge lately and started listening to a lot of different content creators about the cosmere. You are by far my favorite. Love your personality and your well-researched presentation of information.
Thank you! It means a lot to hear people say that!
agreed
2:03 Yeah, that makes sense since allomantic symbols look like sickles or unclosed circles, pierced with spikes, with addiction of a dot, what would respectively represent: body, spike and bind point.
I always figured it was representative of feruchemical bands, hemalurgic spikes, and beads of lerasium, but considering their origin I like your idea!
Great video, but im really just leaving a comment to boost your algorithm, more people need to see this
Doing the Lord Ruler's work!
Second that. All hail the Lord Ruler
Ain’t that the truth
That Inquisitor thumbnail is going to give me nightmares.
I do what I can!
Oh, yeah! I've been waiting eagerly for this one. Great video!
PS: 17th Shard should definitely have you on their podcast, that would be sick!
I'd love it! I'm probably just not active enough on the forums to merit an invitation.
Yes they should!!!
@@TheCosmerenaut I think Ian mentioned you once on the podcast so they definitely know about you
He WHAT?!? Which one?
@@duskshard2446 You can't leave him hanging! We have to know which podcast!
I never noticed that thing with the allamantic symbols owing their origin to the hemolurgic symbols, that's so cool!
That's why they've all got spikes!
@@TheCosmerenaut I Know!! I kept thinking they were supposed to resemble their atomic symbol or number somehow
I doubt there's any relation to the periodic table. The alloys wouldn't be on it anyway.
Im imagining aluminum spike bullets as the ultimate Hazekiller round rn
That would definitely do it!
God, you've just explained hemalurgy in 5 seconds with that stapler... Brilliant! Also thank you for putting an order for all the things i do know about hemalurgy, great video.
Thanks! I honestly make these because it helps me overcome my own confusion. And Hemalurgy held a lot of confusion for me.
“This drink is spiked” made me spit out my coffee all over my car.
This might be my favorite video yet!!! ^_^
I wanna see a villain who goes around collecting all the powers and Creating sentient cats.
Also! If someone were to spike you could they steal all your knowledge of the Cosmere? Or can you not steal memories? What about memories stored in breaths? O_o
See!!? What a cool rabbit hole. Thanks man!
According to Brandon, there may actually BE someone who is collecting powers via Hemalurgy.
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And not that I encourage it, but you could totally spike out someone's knowledge or memories. That's what copper's for!
"We've apparently seen Hemalurgy on Roshar already."
Way to make me go back and read the entire series yet again with part of one sentence.
*I have the POWER!*
@@TheCosmerenaut don't worry, I'll just spike it off you ;)
Hemalurgy is f*cking terrifying! The fact that it can steel investiture, connection, identity, and someone’s very ability to use investiture is quite concerning. We all know that Brandon will take advantage of this at some point, and I can’t decide if I’m looking forward to reading about it, or if I dread it!
Both. Definitely both.
@@TheCosmerenaut you’re not wrong lol
Thanks! Now I can infodump my friends who don't read (?
That's EXACTLY why I make these!
I want to know how Hemalurgy can reattach a cognitive shadow to a new body.
So say we all.
@@TheCosmerenaut Knowing Kelsier...he cheated somehow
Almost definitely.
As a fellow Cosmere fanatic with a new child, bless your heart for these!
It takes a lot, but it's fun!
One more theory about hemalurgy: since hemalurgic chromium may steal destiny, and feruchemic chromium stores fortune, I bet that "destiny" is a cosmereic trait that has to do with fortune somehow. Therefore, if you could spike Hoid with chromium, could you maybe take his place as a world hopping adventurer, and use his fortune related abilities to go where he would go?
It's *probably* related to Fortune, but if that's the case why didn't they just say Fortune?!?
@@TheCosmerenaut my guess is that they are somewhat related, but that they are still distinct, like with how Connection and Identity are related, and how they can be use together to make some interesting affects.
Yet another thing I'm excited to eventually learn more about.
This is like my number 1 cosmere channel
Mine too!
I’m working on a homebrew D&D campaign where the big bad uses Hemalurgy to steal magic, thanks for the breakdown!
Happy to help! Good luck!
ITS HERE! And that opening was great
Thank you!
3:32 - I'm prety sure you literally became Ruin for a second there, hahah!
I am become death, destroyer of cardboard.
Excellent work as always! Love your visualizations and comparisons! The ability to steal the use of invested arts and identity has some fascinating implications! I agree the this will be very important going forward in the Cosmere.
Thank you! Yeah, seeing spiritual hemalurgy on screen is going to be crazy.
im somehow more confused, but good video
Effectively, stab someone to steal their stuff. Stab them different to steal more different stuff.
The idea that Aluminum spikes remove a blockage from the donor is pretty fascinating. Does that mean there might be non-lethal ways to grant artificial investiture abilities?
We've got the Era 2 Medallions and Ettmetal Primer Cubes, as well as fabrials on Roshar, but we'll see what else happens!
When you're only Scadriel (pardon if it's spelled wrong) into the Cosmere making several things blow your mind or confuse you
Everything's connected!
@@TheCosmerenaut So I've read both mistborn eras, as well as secret history following Kelsier, where should I go next? I have a copy of Elantris and Way of Kings. Also where do you find all these art works and charts?
If you already have Elantris but haven't read it, that should definitely be your next step. I'm working on a reading order video right now, in which I will recline further for you.
Oh, and the Hemalurgy chart was released in the leatherbound of Hero of Ages. Most of the art I use is fan art by the various artists I list in the description. Some is official art, specifically for this, that I pulled from the Mistborn Adventure Game manuals.
Damn. That was in-depth. Awesome. Keep it up. Can't wait for the next video.
Should be here soon-ish! Ish.
I always like how Preservation requires you to burn something up, and Ruin give the people a way to keep powers around. Feels like they were trying to mimic their other half with each of their magic systems.
The comparison is fun, but also incredibly confusing to some people.
Speaking each magic system is a response to the other, it kinda makes sense, like theyre trying to make up for their weaknesses
it's on days like this i see just how good Sanderson it at this
There's always another secret.
LOVE. And thanks for the call out! 😂😂😂💀
THANK YOU!!!
If it's possible to yank someone's determination out of them and staple it to someone else, I could EASILY write a Cosmere/UnderTale crossover.
If it can be stored, it can be stolen, right?
Wait, we've seen hemalurgy on Roshar? I'm probably missing something obvious - I assume this is something besides when Nale stapled SzethSoul back to himself?
P.S. fully retweet that Shardcast should have you on
Nope, not missing anything obvious. Brandon has said that hemalurgy has appeared on screen in the Stormlight Archive, but in a subtle way. We're still not sure exactly where.
Hemalurgy is my favorite of the three metalic arts, and even from The Cosmere in general (I don't know what it said about me jaja), so I really apreciate this video, thanks.
Also, your Alumin theory blow op my head.
Sorry if there are any mistakes, english is'nt my first lenguage.
You're english is great! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
This was such a great watch. You're like an excellent professor.
Wow, thank you!
Once again amazing video! Always waiting for the next one!
Thank you! I'll get back to working on it!
Damn you Timezones, why's the premiere so late in the night?
Rest in Piece Sleep Schedule I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Oh I’m leaving a zoom call halfway through for a “break” to watch this video
I appreciate y'all's dedication, but the video will still be up after the premiere I promise!
@@TheCosmerenaut I know that lol, but a Premiere means you get to interact with a live chat.
Also, I just wanna learn more about getting spiked in Scadrial, and I don't just mean Hemalurgically ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@TheCosmerenaut oh definitely! I just love your videos a lot!!! I need to get the first watching before I can do my 4 mandatory rewatches
You guys are the best!
Finally! Thank you Steve. Great stuff.
Took me a minute, but we got there in the end.
Holy heck. I thought I had a good grasp of how this worked until you explained it. Well done. Now it makes even more sense than before. Perfect.
Yay! I'm glad it helped!
I now have in my head a sort of arms race where an Aluminium Gnat stores all of their identity, and then a Hemalurgist tries to spike that identity out of them. No idea if it would work that way but still makes one thinks.
Also I believe it is Canon that while ascended Rashek had an instinctive understanding of basic Hemalurgy despite it being the metallic art most opposed to Preservations nature. It makes me wonder if that is why he only figured out a couple of ways to use it himself? Which suggests Harmony knows a lot more tricks already and adds to the explanation of why other shards would be scared of him.
MY other genuine theory is that in some way Nightblood is in fact a Hemalurgical construct. It is always devouring energy and seems so much more alive than other awakened constructs. But I can easily see the combining of Breath and Hemalurgy to create a type 4 awakened entity being possible.
Aluminum gnat vs duralumin spike would be an interesting matchup.
Rashek had a comparatively miniscule time with the power, so while he learned a lot about Hemalurgy he only was able to implement the little bit we saw.
I guess you could consider Nightblood as a hemalurgic construct, but only insomuch as it's an invested piece of metal. He's not charged with a specific attribute and he doesn't experience hemalurgic decay.
@@TheCosmerenaut My thought is that the combination of both Breath and Hemalurgic charge interact to prevent the decay as such. We do know that investiture is somewhat transferable like how stormlight can sub for breaths for Awakened. And 1000 breaths is a lot of investiture
While it's true that hemalurgy can be used anywhere, Brandon has said it wouldn't be discovered by accident on another Shardworld. The Five Scholars did go worldhopping, but it would have been incredibly difficult to observe and learn about Hemalurgy in the middle of the Lord Ruler's reign. I like your thoughts, but I don't think it would be possible.
@@TheCosmerenaut You are probably right there. Maybe something for the future then.
Well summarized and great theories!
Thanks Daren!
Great video! This really helped me wrap my mind around one of the most confusing cosmere elements!
Thanks! I'm glad it helped!
Hoodoo BOY! Have I been waiting for this one. Hemalurgy is my favorite metallic art to theorize about. You actually touched on something I was wondering about a bit. Namely, could a spike be used to steal talents such as drawing, singing, or marksmanship?
Imagine if, in the second Era of mistborn, there was a guy who went around stealing people's marksmanship skill. Like maybe he has a single spike that he has gotten really good at using repeatedly. He takes it out, spikes his target, then drives it right back into himself. If a woman, this could possibly be done through seducing them until she can go in for a hug and spiking them in the back. If done quickly enough, it might result in a net-gain of ability.
And if that person happens to be a ferochemist who can use tin for sight, they could conceivably become able to hit a target from hundreds or even thousands of yards. And they would have a perfect alibi because "nobody can kill a man half a mile away with just a handgun".
If it's possible to spike a cat to make it smarter, I'm SURE it would be possible to steal conventional talents. As for what metal to use or where to place it, that I have no idea.
Tineye snipers equipped with hemalergic spikes is terrifying. You could hit enemy magic users with aluminum, removing there abilitys from them (the ulimate haze killer round), or worse, hit them with duralumin and implant them with someone elses identity. Aluminum as a metal isnt a bad choice at range either, its light and soft, a bad sniper round for sure, but unlikely to just fly right through them. I guess you could with other metals, makes me wonder what shape the spike has to be in on impact, would a hollow point still count?
Imagining that paper man is Moash. Staple "so satisfying" staple staple staple...
I mean, he's not really using his eyes anymore...
@@TheCosmerenaut Spiking Odium's boon out of Moash to get insensitivity to pain without being controlled by Odium. Hey, we found an actual use for Moash!
@@laurentbercot3465 or Moash could spike Kals bond with Syl... (Dun dun duuuuun)
Someone needs to staple some extra human onto Moash.
Great video! That was a super in-depth summary and I definitely learned something new here. You always explain cosmere-related stuff so well.
Thank you! I do try.
What’s a supreme inquisitors favourite food?
Donor kebab
Oh man, now I want a döner.
Favourite fish?
Pike?
What's an Inquisitor's favorite film maker? Spike Lee.
If an Inquisitor had a dog, what would its name be?
omg I decided to check out another vid and I am rewarded with this greatness. So good! Keep it coming man
I strive for consistency!
You are fantastic at these informational types of videos. I feel like you would be a great teacher.
Thanks Carl!
Interesting... Hemalurgy was always the magic system I had the most trouble grasping, so this video helped a lot. It certainly has a lot of interesting implications that I can't wait to see expanded upon in future Mistborn books. I'd also forgotten all about the Hemalurgic chimeras, but according to the wiki they only appeared briefly in one of the books. They certainly show the scary untapped potential of Hemalurgy.
Yeah, Chimeras are seen so little we don't technically have an official name for them. Chimera was just decided on by the fandom.
Thinking about hemalurgy too much always makes me regret my 5 piercings, although they’re titanium so I should be good? It’s odd that titanium and platinum aren’t used in the magic system, but whatevs. Also it’s odd that nobody reacts to the spikes physically (I can’t wear cheap steel earrings due to a nickle allergy) so the magic inherent in the hemalurgy must prevent tetanus and allergic reactions. They can shift organs so why not
Anyway I think stealing identity is the most interesting use of hemalurgy. It’s what made Emperor’s Soul such a compelling story. Although the idea that transferring spikes from person to person to person takes pieces of who are is fascinating and not something I’d considered before. It’s got interesting implications for koloss and koloss blooded people in era 2
Yeah, I always figured the investiture in the spike naturally prevents reaction or disease.
The most interesting thing Hemalurgy does in my mind is enabled when combined with the Medallions, specifically those made of Gold and charged with Ferruchemic healing.
This potential to mass produce spikes would enable more people to participate in the process of finding ways to make Invested Arts helpful, rather than having the intense hierarchies we see around the Cosmere so far.
I think it'd be really difficult to mass produce spikes even with gold medallions. While we know that feruchemical gold is able to heal spiritual damage, I don't think the amount of healing stored in a medallion would be enough to replace what would be lost to a spike, or at least not repeatedly.
I was under the impression that a spike always killed the donor. I could be wrong, especially considering it turns all metal spikes into a shard blade when mixed with intent. Would also have made the lord ruler ease to kill.
We've got conflicting info on if death is for sure or not. Brandon or Harmony, who do you want to believe?
Do you think that hemalurgy could permanently kill a fused? For example, if you stole their power to use investiture, they would need tons of power to regain it, but the fused are worse at healing than the radiants. Maybe stealing their connection to Odium would prove more effective? Or since that's more an attribute and less a power, it would be easier to heal? What are your thoughts on this?
I don't think you could straight up kill a Fused with hemalurgy, but you'd probably mess them up quite a bit.
Steve! I love your videos man, great job! Always fun and engaging, and Wit-ty :) This one was really helpful in regards to Mistborn lore. I was wondering if you could make a video explaining all of the cross-investiture uses among the Cosmere? For example, where in the Stormlight Archives did we see Hemalurgy, and on other planets, where did we see uses of non-native investiture? Thanks for your hard work and research!
P.S. A video on Nightblood would be awesome ;)
Thanks! I'm planning a worldhopper video that will go deep into all of that!
The best explanation ever!!!
Thanks!
This is incredible! Thank you for the insight. I'm setting up a Mistborn campaign finally! (I didn't want to start until I got through Hero of Ages) This video really helps develop storylines that I have been thinking about.
I wanted to make a character who was a blind lurcher, who was tortured as a child by his master Nobleman who oversaw farmlands. The child caught the sadistic Nobleman in the act of overtaking his mother and as punishment blinded by two needles that were also used to kill his mother. Which granted him the access to not only see people as metal lines, but also heightened senses working in tandem. Kinda like a Misting Dare-Devil character. This character also suffers from severe nightmares of a dark, gravelly voice chanting to him to 'kill'.
What do you think? Any wholes in the operation of spikes? Have you thought of running your own Mistborn campaign with your followers?
That sounds really cool! I like the image of a lurcher who can basically web-swing on iron lines. I assume he'd still have needles in his eyes then? Which would have to be tin, in order to steal senses. I'm not sure if that would necessarily work canonically - the needles might be too small to grant allomantic sight - but it could totally work in the RPG!
I just recently got copies of all of the expansion rulebooks, so I'll be starting up a campaign soon!
Thank you for replying! It's fun to nerd out with not only a small friend group who love Sanderson, but also a content creator like yourself. Your enthusiasm and indepth explanations are very enjoyable 😁
Thank you! Good luck with your campaign!
That paper cutout was so spiked it was under Harmony’s control by 3:31
Any halfway decent soother could have done it by then!
YES! I've been waiting for this video for awhile! Thank you for making it.
You're welcome Ethan! Thanks for your patience!
Awesome work!
Thanks!
@@TheCosmerenaut No, thank you!
Well, you're welcome!
Great video, love the breakdown, but the headroom is throwing me off, I keep wanting to scroll up to center the shot. Oh well.
Yeah, I usually have someone else check to make sure I'm framed correctly before I record, but I snuck the filming of this in between baby naps so I was a bit in a hurry. Once I started editing I figured it was close enough, and I didn't want to reshoot the whole thing.
Great content as always! To the point, but sprinkled through with comedy!
Thank you!
You would think supreme inquisitors don’t have a lot of sex. Apparently they get nailed all the time!
It's because all their drinks are spiked!
@@TheCosmerenaut that’s you they get so hammered at the pub 🧐
Speaking of aluminum could it be wrapped around a sphere to stop or slow Stormlight leakage? Could Kelsier jump into an aluminum box and be carried away from Scandrial? Would that "hide" him from the anchor effect? If it did work and he climbed out of the box in say Roshar Shadesmar, would he snap back to Scadrial instantly? Or would he Connect to Roshar? If a spirit of a just deceased person that appears in the Cognitive Realm were placed in such a box, would they be stopped from being pulled to the Beyond? Damn the implications are deep.
Yeah, there are huge implications of what aluminum can do. And I really like the questions you posed.
Excellent video as always.
Thanks!
My god, fair play to ya. You put some effort into making this video. Keep up the good work ❤️
Thank you!
I have watched this video soooooo may fucking times and it still hurts my head
Not as bad as a steel spike though, right?
I always want to spell it hemallurgy. Oh well. Great vid!!!!
Thanks! I always have trouble with the pronunciations, so I feel your pain.
@@TheCosmerenaut i listen to the audiobooks, so no problems for pronunciations! Personally I think the Sanderson missed a great opportunity to spell feruchemy as ferrochemy (iron-chemistry), since that's how it sounds anyways!
Actually, ferrochemy was what he was originally leaning towards!
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I haven't finished the video but I wonder if it could be possible to steal Biochromatic breath from warbreaker using hemalurgy
I would be disraught if I still knew how to tap but couldnt...tap that knowledge
Nevermind the rusting spike of metal that is now stuffed in me.
It's fine. Once you go crazy, you forget all about it!
I hadn't even considered what would happen if a Mistwraith ate a Koloss. Interesting.
Have you thought of everything Steve?
Everything? Not quite. Many things? Yeah, maybe. Most of this just comes through research.
Got i love this channel. Never stop
To the moon! 🚀
Awesome video!!!
Why weren't the Inquisitors super fast all the time while fighting using compounding?
It's my understanding that not all inquisitors had feruchemical abilities, and even those that did were intentionally kept in the dark about compounding even being a possibility. The Lord Ruler kept a very tight leash on his servants.
The team allergy table they also be from before the Lord roller's time.
Unlikely, because they didn't have the technology necessary to be able to purify many of the metals listed. It was at least Brandon's intent for it to be from Era 2, though Isaac may have adjusted that.
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The best magic system
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Hey, I was wondering, it can be dangerous for someone who is hemalurgicly spiked to remove their spikes because it could kill depending on where they are placed, but if you had a feruchemical gold spike that could heal you, would you be able to remove them and then just heal from the injuries? Could a steel Inquisitor perhaps revert back to being human again by removing their spikes, healing the damage to their body and soul one spike at a time?
Actually, probably!
One application of hemalurgy that I was wondering about: if you can steal innate attributes from people, such as strength or intelligence, would you get more of a hemalurgic charge in your spikes if you stole the attributes from someone who was buff and muscular or highly intelligent? For instance, if you were to spike Jasnah for her intelligence, would you get more of an attribute from her than some random person off the street?
As long as it's in their spiritweb, I think it's fair game! We know you'd get less from a Drab and more from an Elantrian, so it would make sense that individual variation of basic attributes would impact the strength of the hemalurgic charge.
Un vídeo increíble. Espero con ganas el siguiente!!!!
Muchas gracias!
if one can steal identity could one move their Consciousness into a cat or other living thing by simply spiking them
You will likely die if you get your Identity spiked out. But then your friendly Hemalurgist will be able to have a cat who thinks just like you!
You'd have the argument of whether or not it's actually you, just like if you were able to upload your brain into a computer.
@@TheCosmerenaut true but the difference is negligible, either way it's the same outcome, or at least indistinguishable
@@jonathanstott3957 From the outside, it's indistinguishable. If it happens to you, I'm sure you'll notice a difference, even if you-after-the-transfer will swear up and down that there is none.
1. What would be the possible effects if a mistborn Burns a hemalurgic spike?
2. When creating a hemalurgic spike, should the process itself kill the victim? What I mean to say is, a spike in the leg may not kill a person, but hemalurgic points does exist there. So how exactly should the victim die?
3. Further, we have seen cases where some hemalurgic spikes were created "accidentally" (Spook getting his pewter allomancy). So is it possible to accidentally create hemalurgic spike? Or is there a specific process to create one other than sticking a metal spike in a person?
4. Totally unrelated to hemalurgy, what would happen to Spren of an object when that object is broken? For ex, when a stick is broken and " becomes" two sticks.
Nice questions!
1. Brandon's said burning a spike would splice your spiritual DNA with the spiritual DNA contained in the spike, so weird things could occur.
2. We have conflicting info on whether or not hemalurgy always results in death. Harmony says yes, but Brandon says no.
3. It is impossible to accidentally spike a person. Intent is required, and without it it's just a stab wound. In the case with Spook, Ruin itself was providing the intent.
4. The Stormfather actually talks about this in Oathbringer. When am object breaks - "dies" - in the physical realm, it's cognitive representation still exists as whole for as long as it is remembered as whole. Once that object is only thought of as its pieces, he imagines it dissolving. In world, it would probably be argued that the spren of the object is also broken up into smaller spren for each piece.
What would happen if an allomancer burned metal from a charged hemalurgic spike? Could someone compound kind of like burning metal mind?
Burning a spike would get... Wacky.
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RoW aluminum is used in a certain way. How does your theory chg? Is blank able to get un blank? By reversing it?
There's definitely more to aluminum than we know about right now. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when it becomes more plentiful.
Hey, I was wondering; if you could awaken a hemalurgic spike with the right command, could it continue to gain strength beyond what a normal spike could, and then impart that strength to whomever was then spiked with it? We know that Nightblood has significantly more investiture than a radiant's shard-blade, and those are entirely made up of investiture. Also, it seems that the number of spikes in your body are what open you up to outside influence, not the amount of raw investiture in those spikes, since those ear rings that Harmony uses seem to work just fine.
Awakening a spike would be really difficult, because it's already heavily invested. But if you did manage it, it would be wacky.
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Do you think you can spike a spren to a lifeless and forge a physical realm connection to allow them to exist in the physical unbonded, i think the survivor is precedent for it.
Not sure how effective that would be, but maybe!
this was in reccomended, i have no clue what almost any of these words mean at all or what series? this is about
but im interested now
This is an exploration of part of the magic system from the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson. They're great! You should totally read them!
13:32 Maybe Hoid could use that to remove his inability to harm people
I havent read SA 2-4 so idk if that use had been explored
Interesting... I'm not sure how Hoid's spiritweb would take to a spike. Definitely worth considering!
Can you compound a spike?
It'd have to be a small spike, but what happens if you do it?
Like can you burn an invested spike? Yes, but it'd get weird.
As someone who has read all 6 Mistborn books and all 4 Stormlight books, I am still super confused but excited
I am most curious about what stealing someone's identity would result in, do you develop multiple personalities like Shallan or is you mind fundamentally altered
Why not both?
DESTINY is by far the most interesting.... What the hell would that look like. I hope that happens at some point in the cosmere
It's really interesting to think you could steal someone's destiny and use it yourself or give it to another. But does that mean the person who lost their destiny could make a new destiny or are they more stagnant in what they accomplish?
I'm sure we'll see it sometime, or what why would Brandon include it?
The person who lost their destiny would probably be dead...
@@TheCosmerenaut you are absolutely correct about them being dead. I was just having a brain fart thinking that it was more like the medallions and not the spikes.
@@TheCosmerenaut I struggle with this question because we have seen MULTIPLE people glimpse destinies and possible destinies... Lightsong using breaths seem to see what he was meant to do and what he was reborn to accomplish.
But this offers a bunch of questions...
If I hemalergically spiked Lightsong and stole his destiny... What really would I gain? Maybe it would affect my luck slightly? Maybe I would be more likely to accomplish something someone else was likely to do.
But for instance, what if I stole Lightsongs destiny but didn't also hemalergically steal his breath (or already have one)? Would that destiny be void?
To what extent does destiny play in the cosmere as a spiritual force...?
I am very excited to see what Brandon does with this.
Another weird thing is the choice of saying destiny, rather than Fortune. Because we have at least somewhat of an inkling as to what that means. Destiny is really amorphous.
A guy walks up to an Inquisitor and say, "Excuse me, but there's something in your eye." The Inquisitor beats the guy to death. The guy should have known Inquisitors only like knock knock jokes.
Well when you see with nails, every problem looks like a hammer.
@@TheCosmerenaut Talk about a pounding headache!
So to steal powers from other worlds than than the world you're native to, you would need to steal the connection to the shard of that world? Is it possible to steal a power from someone, but then fuel the magic with another shard's power because you have a connection to that shard?
Probably! The whole idea of Stormlight batteries is powering one investiture with a more free flowing, unconnected source.
I need an intelligence spike to process all this information... how do you do it?? also thank you again, every video in your channel was a pleasure to watch, and i would definitely recommend them to anyone who wants to know more about the cosmere.
Thank you! I really appreciate people sharing my videos!
I think it would be cool for an Awakener to use an altered cloak like wings, while storing physical weight in an ironmind to actually be able to get off the ground
I'm really excited to see powers used in conjunction like that!
I believe it's sapience, not sentience. A small, but very important distinction.
Indeed. I always mix those up.
3:35 Ruin: Ahhhoooo. . . So satisfying.
I sorta get where he's coming from now.
How can hemalurgy be used to move a spaceship 🚀?
Spike the entire crew with allomantic steel and duralumin then take off from a metal platform? Basically however it's done via allomancy/feruchemy it could be made to happen hemalurgically.