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P88 for lasers and bar downs. Open toe curves like the other two are for guy who park on top of the crease. Closed toe or "slightly open" is for the sharp shooters the way I see it. I can still go top shelf from inside the crease with an 88. You just have to know how to use it. The open toe curves I feel like I need to slow my shot down to keep the puck on the blade to the end before it flings off the top and over the net.
I find it just really depends on where on the blade you shoot from, if you were taught to shoot off the toe then pick something like the p28, if off the heel then either the p88 or p91
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Yeah, I’m a forward and use p88. I understand how difficult it would be to use a p88 curve after already getting used to other types of curves. I’ve used it my whole life and it works for me. Great video.
P88 is my personal favourite, so much more shooting control for every type of shot including backhands! Don’t need big curves to do toe drags, Crosby’s blade is almost flat!
Totally agree. Maybe it's b/c I was a D, but I feel the P88 is the best pattern for accuracy in both shots and especially passes. I also think it might appeal to those of us that grew up with wood sticks/blades where we learned to pass and shoot from the heel. Sticks nowadays are so flexible and advanced, that they don't even teach the 'egg method' of passing (give and receive) - it's basically just slap everything...
its really interesting because what he uses and what the stick you buy at the store with his name on it is are pretty different. Per Pure hockey: Sidney Crosby uses a CCM P29 curve. This Hockey Stick Blade is one of the most popular in the game today and features a deep mid-curve allowing for great stickhandling and puck control. but like you said if you google his curve its basically a flatter heel curve
@@bryantTheFatBadger honestly its really tough to find a youth stick in a P88 curve. If I had to guess 80-90% come stock with the P92 or the equivalent. I've never seen an option for anything else until intermediate level sticks, I'm sure they are out there. especially if you are willing to buy your 6-8 yr old a $250+ stick but the normal priced ones $50-100 Youth and junior sticks are almost all P92/29/WO3
Just picked up a p28M to play with on a Trigger 8 from a P92 FT7. I play left wing mostly and lately I've been noticing I play/shoot more off the toe, so really interested to see if it helps my game. Great video!
Thanks Ayden for continuously providing great hockey content. I think I might even prefer the voice over version of the videos. Growing up playing with wooden sticks, I gravitated to the P88 when I got back into the game. I since moved on to P92 and P28, because I think they are better for modern shooting, where you use the flex of the blade to generate more power. One thing that bothers me about the P28 is the risk of the puck flying into the stands if you hit at the wrong part of the blade. Therefore I‘ve settled for the P92. Boring is good, predictable and reliable. And you can get it pretty much anywhere.
Thank you for the kind words and continuing to support my channel, I’ll keep mixing in both kinds of videos in the future! As for the curve boring is definitely good, always know what you’re going to get!
You hit the nail on the head for the P92. Its just good at everything but isn't great at anything. Its definitely a boring curve, but there is a reason why its the most popular/widely used curve there is. Its just so consistent. If you want a curve that will elevate your stick handling, go P28. if you want consistency and easier shooting, P92 is your curve.
what do you mean by consistency? with shooting? with stick handling? or both? i have a p29 and p90tm, might switch to the p28 but am scared i wont be able to stick handle good because of it being a big toe curve. how do you think they compare?
@@mike72ulyas P28 is better for stick handling. P28 has more toe, but its also got a flatter heal than the P92 does. Which helps for stick handling. The P92 curve starts further back on the blade closer to the heel, which isnt horrible for stick handling. But its just okay. The P92 is the "just okay" curve. Its strength is being decent at everything.
slap it off the heal and stop your follow through. If you roll the puck up those open faced curves it's going to sail on you every time. I grew up with the Iginla curve but now use the p88 which seems close as I can easily find. There is no shot I can't take with it. It's super nice for backhanders too.
I wouldn’t really say there are position specific curves but try out the p92 or p28 with a max blade! Will be easier to block passes and take away lanes!
88 is life. So balanced, can do everything very well. May not excel in any specific area but provides lots of tools in the box for sure. I've struggled with the newer patterns hitting the net. Missiles, but off the glass constantly😅
That’s how I feel using the p92, it really depends on the first few sticks you use when you start playing for sure. The bigger toe hooks that are coming out now definitely take a little while to get used to
Used a p92 for the longest while but as a defenseman found it annoying how hard it was to keep shots low. Just switched to a p88 tracer and I like it and still getting used to it but find it harder now to get power on the shots. Also my first mid kick stick in a while any tips? Or will my shot get back to how it was with my p92 agent once I get more confidence?
If anything you should feel more shot power on your wrist and slap shots with your tracer once you get used to it! Your shot will definitely get back to where it is once you get used to it, your slap shot will definitely feel stronger but you may notice a dip in your snapshot considering it’s a mid kick!
@@StickTalk8 Thank you I appreciate it! I hadn’t messed around much with slap shots till today but holy cow that things is a tank for sure🤣 It seems like I’m Getting used to it now but hopefully I’ll be able to get my snapshot at least around where it was!
What was the average mph for those shots you felt good about? Can you please talk us through your wrist shot form/mechanics of the shot/ core muscle use to achieve max velocity. I can’t seem to get out of the mid 50s and looks like you are well into the 70s. Thanks
I typically sit anywhere between 75-85mph on a good day, I have a few videos planned for the next few weeks but I'll plan a shooting video soon and talk through why I shoot the way I do! the easiest muscle group to work on that helps a ton is forearms!
I started with a P88, didn't know any better. I switched to P92, I think any shortcomings I have are me, not the stick. I'm stickhandling better, I have a good shot, I almost entirely shoot off the toe.
I’m a left wing or center, I just bought the nexus tracer, I went for the p92 but I usually get the p28 because I am a forward, I’m thinking about switching to a p28 or should I stick with 92 since it is kinda consistent and p28 is pretty 😢
Noticed the signage, I'm from nearby, like 30 mins away lol Just learning hockey at 40 and your vid came up at random. Maybe I'll see ya in beer league next year?
In my experience with the p88 the pocket of the curve is more towards the heel of the stick and I find it’s better to shoot from more towards the heel than midway through the blade but yes it is a great curve for sweeping wrist shots!
I just bought a p28 today and tried it for the first time. After 2 hours I still couldn’t really get the feel for it other than momentarily but your explanation of the lie change just made so much sense. I gotta cut like 2-3 cm off the shaft and it’ll be perfect. I also went from low kick to mid kick at the same time and this stick is currently slightly taller so I’m looking to cut it down to like 1-2 cm taller than my last stick. Before I had a p90tm so the toe is what I keep using right now and the tape wear says it all. The heel feels kinda awkward for now
I use P88 Kane and it’s very nice for me as a puck moving/stay at home defender, it’s great for passing/flat saucers and puck handling because it is super flat but shooting isn’t the way to go with P88 in general (because it is pretty flat) based off my experiences
I entirely agree with you, the p71 from ccm or the malkin pro curve is a great alternative because it is a p88 with a toe curve as well so it’s the best of both worlds!
lmao, i have p88 and no u dont shoot off the heal lol wtf? the puck should always come off the toe as it leaves ur blade no matter what blade ur using to put spin on the puck and get a perfectly horizontal puck in flight so it keeps its momentum and p28 and p29 have too much of a toe curve causes puck to go flying over the net, basically p29 and p28 are for weak ass kids who cant lift the puck so it helps them lol
I’m glad the p88 works for you but I’d have to say your wrong about the p92 or p28 being for weak ass kids considering over half of the nhl is currently using one of those curves or a variation of it. Ovechkin uses one of the biggest curves in the league so would he then be a weak ass kid? Respectfully a bad take on your part.
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I think this is the first youtube video discussing all 3 patterns together
That’s why I made it!
P88 for lasers and bar downs. Open toe curves like the other two are for guy who park on top of the crease. Closed toe or "slightly open" is for the sharp shooters the way I see it. I can still go top shelf from inside the crease with an 88. You just have to know how to use it. The open toe curves I feel like I need to slow my shot down to keep the puck on the blade to the end before it flings off the top and over the net.
I find it just really depends on where on the blade you shoot from, if you were taught to shoot off the toe then pick something like the p28, if off the heel then either the p88 or p91
I recently made an Instagram account where I’ll be posting more short form content, make sure to check it out @aydenfinn.yt Thank you everyone for all the support recently and I apologize for the delay publishing this video!
Yeah, I’m a forward and use p88. I understand how difficult it would be to use a p88 curve after already getting used to other types of curves. I’ve used it my whole life and it works for me. Great video.
If you’re used to it and like it there is no point to change unless you want to experiment but that is an extremely slippery slope lol and thank you!
Same. Grew up with the "Iginla" curve. p88 is close enough and I can get any sort of shot off with it.
@@GeorgeJefferson-h7w yeah like I tried a p28 and I wired it over the glass first shot. Takes times to readjust
Definitely takes some time especially after switching from something like the p88
Best video I've found comparing common curves. Great for those just getting into the sport and trying to figure out what to try.
P88 is my personal favourite, so much more shooting control for every type of shot including backhands! Don’t need big curves to do toe drags, Crosby’s blade is almost flat!
It definitely is personal preference! I just can’t get used to not having any curve near the toe but I’m glad to hear you enjoy the p88!
Totally agree. Maybe it's b/c I was a D, but I feel the P88 is the best pattern for accuracy in both shots and especially passes. I also think it might appeal to those of us that grew up with wood sticks/blades where we learned to pass and shoot from the heel. Sticks nowadays are so flexible and advanced, that they don't even teach the 'egg method' of passing (give and receive) - it's basically just slap everything...
@@bryantTheFatBadger it gives you more forgiveness on stick handling and receiving a pass. Feel like throwing some sauce is a little easier too
its really interesting because what he uses and what the stick you buy at the store with his name on it is are pretty different. Per Pure hockey: Sidney Crosby uses a CCM P29 curve. This Hockey Stick Blade is one of the most popular in the game today and features a deep mid-curve allowing for great stickhandling and puck control. but like you said if you google his curve its basically a flatter heel curve
@@bryantTheFatBadger honestly its really tough to find a youth stick in a P88 curve. If I had to guess 80-90% come stock with the P92 or the equivalent. I've never seen an option for anything else until intermediate level sticks, I'm sure they are out there. especially if you are willing to buy your 6-8 yr old a $250+ stick but the normal priced ones $50-100 Youth and junior sticks are almost all P92/29/WO3
Just picked up a p28M to play with on a Trigger 8 from a P92 FT7. I play left wing mostly and lately I've been noticing I play/shoot more off the toe, so really interested to see if it helps my game. Great video!
Thanks Ayden for continuously providing great hockey content. I think I might even prefer the voice over version of the videos. Growing up playing with wooden sticks, I gravitated to the P88 when I got back into the game. I since moved on to P92 and P28, because I think they are better for modern shooting, where you use the flex of the blade to generate more power. One thing that bothers me about the P28 is the risk of the puck flying into the stands if you hit at the wrong part of the blade. Therefore I‘ve settled for the P92. Boring is good, predictable and reliable. And you can get it pretty much anywhere.
Thank you for the kind words and continuing to support my channel, I’ll keep mixing in both kinds of videos in the future! As for the curve boring is definitely good, always know what you’re going to get!
You hit the nail on the head for the P92. Its just good at everything but isn't great at anything. Its definitely a boring curve, but there is a reason why its the most popular/widely used curve there is. Its just so consistent. If you want a curve that will elevate your stick handling, go P28. if you want consistency and easier shooting, P92 is your curve.
I've been picking the p90t recently because its exactly like the p92 but with a bit more toe so its a little more fun
what do you mean by consistency? with shooting? with stick handling? or both? i have a p29 and p90tm, might switch to the p28 but am scared i wont be able to stick handle good because of it being a big toe curve. how do you think they compare?
@@mike72ulyas P28 is better for stick handling. P28 has more toe, but its also got a flatter heal than the P92 does. Which helps for stick handling. The P92 curve starts further back on the blade closer to the heel, which isnt horrible for stick handling. But its just okay. The P92 is the "just okay" curve. Its strength is being decent at everything.
Couldn’t have put it better myself. @mike72ulyas you should try the zegras curve
I was a big p88 guy until I tried the p90tm, that's my new favorite
I tried the p90tm recently and I loved it, definitely a great retail option
What changes do you make to your release with the p28 when you want to shoot low?
slap it off the heal and stop your follow through. If you roll the puck up those open faced curves it's going to sail on you every time. I grew up with the Iginla curve but now use the p88 which seems close as I can easily find. There is no shot I can't take with it. It's super nice for backhanders too.
I find as long as I follow through with my blade closed rather than open its much easier to shoot low!
What curve is best for defense?
I wouldn’t really say there are position specific curves but try out the p92 or p28 with a max blade! Will be easier to block passes and take away lanes!
88 is life. So balanced, can do everything very well. May not excel in any specific area but provides lots of tools in the box for sure.
I've struggled with the newer patterns hitting the net. Missiles, but off the glass constantly😅
That’s how I feel using the p92, it really depends on the first few sticks you use when you start playing for sure. The bigger toe hooks that are coming out now definitely take a little while to get used to
Used a p92 for the longest while but as a defenseman found it annoying how hard it was to keep shots low. Just switched to a p88 tracer and I like it and still getting used to it but find it harder now to get power on the shots. Also my first mid kick stick in a while any tips? Or will my shot get back to how it was with my p92 agent once I get more confidence?
If anything you should feel more shot power on your wrist and slap shots with your tracer once you get used to it! Your shot will definitely get back to where it is once you get used to it, your slap shot will definitely feel stronger but you may notice a dip in your snapshot considering it’s a mid kick!
@@StickTalk8 Thank you I appreciate it! I hadn’t messed around much with slap shots till today but holy cow that things is a tank for sure🤣 It seems like I’m Getting used to it now but hopefully I’ll be able to get my snapshot at least around where it was!
I definitely think you’ll get it back to where it was in no time!
Ever tried the P90TM ?
Just tried it for the first time, I have it on the stick for the next video!
@@StickTalk8 Cant wait!
What was the average mph for those shots you felt good about? Can you please talk us through your wrist shot form/mechanics of the shot/ core muscle use to achieve max velocity. I can’t seem to get out of the mid 50s and looks like you are well into the 70s. Thanks
I typically sit anywhere between 75-85mph on a good day, I have a few videos planned for the next few weeks but I'll plan a shooting video soon and talk through why I shoot the way I do! the easiest muscle group to work on that helps a ton is forearms!
I have used the p92 my whole life and switched to p90 tm, I like it a lot and feel better stick handling (especially the toe drag).
If you liked the p90tm you should try the zegras curve, thing shoots like a dream
i gotta ask, how do you get ice like this to yourself? do you work at the rink and during downtime go and skate? or do you rent the ice??
I rent the ice, I live in a small town so it’s usually pretty readily available
I started with a P88, didn't know any better. I switched to P92, I think any shortcomings I have are me, not the stick. I'm stickhandling better, I have a good shot, I almost entirely shoot off the toe.
That’s why I like the p92 it can do anything well, and yes definitely it’s just easier to blame the stick lol
Is the p90tm like a mix of p28 and 92?
Kind of but then again not really, it’s pretty much a p92 with a toe kink
I’m a left wing or center, I just bought the nexus tracer, I went for the p92 but I usually get the p28 because I am a forward, I’m thinking about switching to a p28 or should I stick with 92 since it is kinda consistent and p28 is pretty 😢
Whichever one you perform better with I’d say to stick with, but if you want a mix of them both check out my most recent video!
Which Warrior that p28 stick was if you didnt like it?
It’s the qr5t, I just think that there are much better options at the same price
@@StickTalk8 Have you tested LX2 Pro? Thinking of buying that.
I haven’t tried the lx2 pro yet but I’ve tried the lxpro and really liked it and it’s on sale for 179 right now
Noticed the signage, I'm from nearby, like 30 mins away lol Just learning hockey at 40 and your vid came up at random. Maybe I'll see ya in beer league next year?
It’s never too late to learn and you’ll probably see me there!
P88 is amazing for wrist shots. Never had an issue. P28 I am not a fan of. Not sure which stick you are using, but P88 is mid curve.
In my experience with the p88 the pocket of the curve is more towards the heel of the stick and I find it’s better to shoot from more towards the heel than midway through the blade but yes it is a great curve for sweeping wrist shots!
I’m a winger and loooooove the p90TM I feel that it is a combination of all those curves.
I started using it recently and honestly the only curve that I can say is better than it is the zegras curve
what is a p92m
P92m is just a p92 with a max blade
@ how is it just larger?
The heel portion of the blade is taller
@ thanks
I just bought a p28 today and tried it for the first time. After 2 hours I still couldn’t really get the feel for it other than momentarily but your explanation of the lie change just made so much sense. I gotta cut like 2-3 cm off the shaft and it’ll be perfect. I also went from low kick to mid kick at the same time and this stick is currently slightly taller so I’m looking to cut it down to like 1-2 cm taller than my last stick. Before I had a p90tm so the toe is what I keep using right now and the tape wear says it all. The heel feels kinda awkward for now
It definitely takes a little bit to get used to the rocker but it's worth it in the long run and I'm glad I could help!
Great breakdown…thank you!
Happy I could help!
3:29 What is the lie as written on your stick?
It doesn’t say on the stick but it’s listed on warriors website!
Warrior lists their W28 (P28) as lie 5.5 ... but as he says, it's more of a 5 at the heel and a 6 at the toe.
@@mhicaoidh1 Thank you! Very helpful!
@@kfalkon2411 you're welcome. It answered a question for me as I always wondered why some sticks were Lie x.5 ...
Do a video on stick length
I’ll see what I can do!
I use P88 Kane and it’s very nice for me as a puck moving/stay at home defender, it’s great for passing/flat saucers and puck handling because it is super flat but shooting isn’t the way to go with P88 in general (because it is pretty flat) based off my experiences
I entirely agree with you, the p71 from ccm or the malkin pro curve is a great alternative because it is a p88 with a toe curve as well so it’s the best of both worlds!
Dude, how do you get a whole rink to yourself?
I live in a small town and book the ice on non peak hours!
i did some work in campbellford last winter in some lift locks, went and saw some jr c games there, cool old barn.
It’s a nice rink and easy to get ice time, they’re building a new one soon
@@StickTalk8 yeah our crew rented the ice a couple times there for some morale boosting nights lol, and did some bowling in town. cool quiet town
It’s definitely a nice change of pace from the city
I like P91A, 92
I tried the p91 when I was younger but I just couldn’t get used to and lost the puck a TON when I was stickhandling because of the flat toe lol
lmao, i have p88 and no u dont shoot off the heal lol wtf? the puck should always come off the toe as it leaves ur blade no matter what blade ur using to put spin on the puck and get a perfectly horizontal puck in flight so it keeps its momentum and p28 and p29 have too much of a toe curve causes puck to go flying over the net, basically p29 and p28 are for weak ass kids who cant lift the puck so it helps them lol
I’m glad the p88 works for you but I’d have to say your wrong about the p92 or p28 being for weak ass kids considering over half of the nhl is currently using one of those curves or a variation of it. Ovechkin uses one of the biggest curves in the league so would he then be a weak ass kid? Respectfully a bad take on your part.