@@thedano-spaniard2204 It wasn't exactly uncalled for if you look at the big picture, the sound toll for example and also the rivalry between Sweden and Denmark, you wouldn't have stood much of a chance even if you didn't join the 30 years war considering Sweden's professional army being one of the best in Europe at the time, in the end tho I'm happy to see that the Denmark-Sweden rivalry still lives on in games such as CS:GO where Sweden once was uncontested nr.1 but Denmark now (from what i last saw from it at least) dominates
@@ferchulanderful Cant blame em, it was a smart move, they crushed their rivals power, religiously and politically, and they were probably the sole reason why Protestantism survived as it did, though only a small portion of their population was protestant, they did have a protestant king.
Resume of the war Spain : *fight for catholiscism* England : *fight for protestantism* Ottoman Empire and Russia : *fight for wtf reason* France : Bonjour
Ottoman and Russia fought because protestants saved enough mana to cast Summon Russia and Summon Ottoman at some point. They also several times casted Summon Dracula, as we can see
Transolvania was a ottoman vassal which was protestant and usually get in trouble with catholics and ottomans have to step up to protect their vassals.
@@tycuygfyfyfh5498 Pretty sure Transylvania was primarily Orthodox at the time, and was pretty much only a vassal due to the fact that it was more beneficial to keep it out of the Ottoman bureaucracy and still reap the benefits of sapping the region of all that it was worth, and making sure they didn't build forts so they could roll in whenever they pleased.
Do you see that island of Catholics in Bohemia at 6:11? That's my hometown of Brno. There is a legend that after a long siege, the Swedish forces made a plan. If they don't surrender until noon, we'll fall back and find a better target. Some Bohemian spy heard it and because the city's supplies and ammo were nearly depleted, they rung the bells an hour before noon. The Swedes heard the bells and marched away. From that day, all the bells in Brno always ring at 11 am.
However it’s truly only a legend. In fact, around 500 soldiers with support of the citizens (most sources say 1.000 citizens participated in the defence) managed to defend the city against an army made of nearly 30.000 men for roughly 3 months.
@@David-du4xs yeah, I learned that when I visited Špilberk fortress last week. There is a beautiful painting of that battle, all the pikes and muskets..
@Pax Sarmatica Nope, because PLC never joined 30 years war. Educate yourself. Zygmunt III nigdy nie dołączył do wojny, choć chciał. Zablokowała go magnateria. Wysłał jedynie Lisowczyków jako najemników, bo inaczej musiałby ich powywieszać gdy wrócili z Rosji.
@@Genrihovich85 Time of troubles? Poland smashed armies 10 times their times (Klushino) during that conflict, unless you mean the Polish Bolshevik war which the soviets also lost.
@@WWSzar Yes, a troubled time, when the Rurik dynasty died down and the power struggle was on, the Poles wanted to slip their ruler under this business. When the Romanovs came to power, Russia won all the wars before the Bolsheviks arrived. In the battle of Klushinsky, the Poles were not 10 times smaller, but in 4-5, yes, the Polish cavalry won, crushing the infantry, nothing surprising.
An important side-effect of this war was that it forced peasants in middle Europe to switch from growing grain to cultivating potatoes, just to survive. Armies could rush through, burning wheat, oat and rye fields, but they couldn't destroy potato fields easily. Plus, cavalry units, in particular, would avoid potato fields because their green tops are poisonous, being members of the deadly nightshade family of plants. (Only sweet potato greens are edible: they belong to a different plant family.)
It's even funnier when you know that at the start of the war, France was (diplomatically) supporting the Hasburgs in their battle against a common enemy. And then Austria decided to benefit from this war to annex parts of Bohemia. The French, already annoyed by the very, very large power of the Hasburgs (who were in control of Austria and the Spanish Empire), decided to help the protestants, paying the Danes to fight, and then the Swedes (that's why you can see both joining the war against the Catholic league and invading Germany). Then, once freed of its internal trouble, France joined the battlefield and teamed up with Sweden to bring an end to this war. By a single political move, Austria doomed itself and forever weakened both its royal dynasty and its religion!
@@maloflory Sweden was pretty much knocked out of the war when they were all but completely destroyed at the Battle of Nordlingen. The Spanish Tercios overcame the Swedes with ease,even with the so called new advancements from Adolphus LOL.
@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Speak with facts, not nationalism, please. Lets focus on Nordlingen. The terico is not what won Nordlingen. The Spanish had almost 10 thousand more troops that the Swedish did at the battle, as well as had a better defensive position and favorable terrain. The Spanish had literally every single advantage compared to the Swedes, and pressed those. Furthermore, the event that is considered to have lost the battle was a Swedish blunder, not a Spanish triumph. A cavalry brigade charged prematurely, leaving its gunners expose, and proceed to ignore orders and begin to hunt down the retreating forces. This led Horns unguarded gunners to be confused, and they began firing on the other horse, infantry, and gun regiments that had already moved forward or were closed to the Spanish lines. A majority of the Swedish casualties came from friendly fire and the Spanish attacking forces that were unable to distinguish friend and foe and were attacking said friend and foe, as well as a disorganized army that were all doing their own thing. Was the Spanish leadership wise to see these flaws and press their advantages? Yes. Was the Terico any of these advantages? No. Hell, most of the Spanish casualties were *because* the terico. The terico allowed the Swedish that weren't in complete chaos to fire and do way more casualties to the terico than the terico was able to do back. The terico was even considered by the Spanish leaders to be the weakest part of their forces, given how poorly they perform against the Swedish gun formations. Now onto everything else you said. Was the Swedish army destroyed? No. Was the Swedish army able to rebuild in months and rejoin the war? Yes. Destroying the Swedish army was useful, but they were fightinf an army of mercenaries and more modern soldiers. Sweden had been training more soldiers in the case that this happens, and could hire mercenaries incredibly easily. The losses Sweden suffered were replaceble, and it did nothing to actually impact the war. This is unlike Breitenfeld, in which the Imperials were unable to regain their lost momentum and only got their armies to a similar strength to that of Brietenfeld when combining with their allies, such as the Spanish or Austrians. And your last point... These were innovations. Id like to remind you that well before the end of the war Spain had adapted several of these into their own army, and wer on the cusp of dropping the terico completely and utterly. They spent the entirety of the early fighting against effectively rebellions, who they always outbumbered by a notable amount, and a sea war against England, their rebellions, Swedish, and Italian navies. Come the French phase, and you see Spain engaging in larger scale battles against France and look what happened. France, who used these innovations, pretty much destroyed the Spanish in any notaboe battle they fought in, with all of the exceptions pretty much *always* being because of similar circumstances as Nordlingen; loss of control over armies, fighting offensive battles outnumbered, and the Spanish always taking casualties because, from their generals own mouths, the inferiority of the Terico.
@@7777-z7p Please...... If the Swedes had kept the hilltop it would of ended in disaster for the Spanish-Imperial forces. But,the Tercio not only retook the hill but fought back 15 attacks LOL. Actually it was 8 thousands more not 10. Had every advantage? The Spanish had to retake a hilltop and they did it on their first try..... The Swedish army was all but destroyed. it took them two years to come back not 6 months LOL. What innovations did the Tercio incorporate? Even funnier,the Tercio was not fully replaced until the 1700's...... Well after the 80 year war LOL. You truly know shit. Spain developed Pike and shot because of the Italian wars moron. The French were mopping the floor with them because of their dominance in heavy cavalry. Large scale battles against France? You do know Spain has defeated France many times and in many wars? Hell,the Spanish even captured King Francis I in battle LOL. Yes a unit able to take up to 60% casualty rate and not run is inferior...... Fact is even in Spain's worst it still out did the Swedes.
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@@frostrx5115 yeah, I guess we were included becuase we sent some forces to help Austria like for example cutting off the Transylvanians before they could join up with Bohemia and besiege Vienna and so any attavk on us was by extension an attack on the catholics even though we were pretty multicultural at the time. Either way the Russians attacked to take back Smolensk which they'd lost a few years earlier but Poland won and Sweden attacked to get Livonia which they succeeded in because we were occupied with the ottomans but I'm not sure why they attacked.
The actual russo-ottoman conflict began during the great turkish war. Almost all of europe went to war against the ottomans and that war also marked the first time that russia formally cooperate with the west.
This was the most dangerous thing of the german history. In this conflict 8 milion Germans died(30% of the total population). In WWI they lost 3 milion, 7 milions in WWII...... Cant even imagine how distructive this conflict was
If I recall correctly, France didn't really care about the war, but saw it as a way to weaken the Hapsburgs, who controlled the HRE and Spain at that point. So France funded and supplied the war for several years, but didn't fight itself. Sweden was the main Protestant aggressor, and France funded them. Until the Swedish king died. That could have led to Sweden pulling out entirely due to moral, which would have led to a hapsburg victory, so France and Sweden switched roles with France directly fighting and Sweden supporting the effort financially. Also, it was assumed that 40% of the overall German population died in this war.
The best part was that Catholic France was funding the Protestant Sweden to fight the Catholic Habsburgs on behalf of the Protestant Germans in a religious war. Eventually Catholic France was fighting the Catholic Habsburgs on behalf of the Protestants in Germany while being funded by the Protestant Swedish. It was kinda stupid.
@@LordofTheFallen France isnt known for its pro gamer move. It's always Révolution or war but you know ? We were 3 times more than Englan or Holland and as many and almost as powerfull as Habsburgs (because they had America's gold) so r/woof
France joining the Protestant cause despite being led by a Catholic bishop, Cardinal Richelieu, is one of my favorite diplomatic moves ever. It shows what statesmanship is. Richelieu rightfully understood that the real enemy of France were the Habsburg, not the Protestants, and at the end France was one of the few countries to benefit from the war. In the same time, Richelieu was harassing the French Protestants, the Huguenots, at home. Your enemy within can be your ally abroad because this is a false acknowledgment to believe that a nation must be at war against an ideology.
How were Richelieu and the king not excommunicated by the Pope? Up until then, the great risk of breaking Catholic unity was to be excommunicated, which had a profound spiritual impact in a world were religion provided many existential answers for the people. The prospect of dying while excommunicated was still terrifying, as it meant that Heaven was forever shut closed for that person. So being Catholic and a cardinal, how did Richelieu not fear that?
Alvaro Gomez Vivas Probably because if excommunicated they could create a protestant Church of France, in retaliation to the Pope, similar to the Church of England.
@@alvarogomezvivas7844 The pope was not stupid. There were 2 risk. The first, Louis the 14th building a gallic church like in England. The second, french troops came to Rome and bring back the pope in Avignon to keep him and "protect" him.
@@himlingpatrice fair enough. It nevertheless was a cynical decision, no doubt, and I think in other times it would have been inconceivable. But these were not the Middle Ages anymore, so I guess even though these were wars of religion, it was becoming accepted that religion wasn't everything. Plus France had already done similar moves in the past, such as allying themselves with the Ottomans against the Habsburgs , so I guess it did not come as such a huge surprise.
Swedish forces in german states: "I'm bored, been raiding and fighting here for years, there's nothing to do." Denmark 5:40 "Let me introduce myself" Swedish forces in german states: "Yay, something to do! :D"
Spain has a great world empire Spanish Habsburgs: We are going to waste all the wealth coming from America in very expensive wars to help our Austrian cousins. Spaniards: But we will not win anything in central Europe. Spanish Habsburgs: We don't care Spaniards: :c England and France: Excellent
Spain saw itself as the catholic Empire. Fighting for an allied country, while also fighting protestants was not very controversial in Madrid. When Spain joined the war, nobody knew the scale of the conflict, it looked like a very easy win for the Habsburgs. Similarly a strong Habsburg ruled HRE was in the very interest of Spain, it would come handy in the case of war with France. And that is the same reason why France, who whas fighting her own protestants, joined on the side of the other protestants, to keep the Habsburgs from dominating Europe.
bro this is legit one of my favorite mapping videos by far, i learned so much more about the 30 years' war here than any of the other 20 minute videos talking about it. good job!
UK: _win the war_ Germany: _lose the war_ Italy: _lose the war and then switch sides to win the war_ Denmark: _lose the war and then switch sides only to lose again_
Germany didn't existed the fuck are you talking about. You're like Lvl 0 in history. Know history better. . Germany was created in 1871. It was the holy Roman empire or later Prussia
@@gutsjoestar7450 haha... no... the first German state was created in 843 AD after the treaty of Verdun... Also, I was talking about Germany... you know... the one thta lost the war 100 years ago and 80 years ago...
Are you stupid. I know that. What I'm saying is that during the 30 years war Germany didn't existed. And why are you talking about the old Germany if it wasn't there in the video. Plus another historical error. During the treaty of Verdun in 843 A.D it doesn't created Germany. The purpose of this treaty was to split the Frankish empire of Charlemagne beetwen his grandsons. And it wasn't Germany yet. It was Louis the german's kingdom he was the son of a Frankish dynasty. There is a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE. ALSO CALLED EAST FRANCIA. Plus the people living there were German But German was just a ethnic group not a country. The people living in the holy Roman empire (pretending they were roman) were a German ethnic group
it happened because of the massacre of latinos in may of 1182 ,The pope scummed the participants, but the agitators knew and used it to anger the warriors, if the massacre had not happened years before or the failure to pay the crusaders none of this would have happened. search for it before saying shit.
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France never change is politic (lead by Richelieu) : Fight the Protestant inside the Kingdom and fight the Habsburgs outside so if the Habsburgs fight with catholic France fight with Protestant its like a 17 century Cold War (France was surrounded by them with Spain and HRE)
Habsburgs: "We already made you King-Elect of Hungary! Why do you keep fighting us!?" Gabriel Bethlen: "Because you're autocrats who oppress Protestants, and they keep forging alliances with me."
Such an amazing work! The Thirty Years’ War is a very long and chaotic war, but in this animation is so much attention to detail👍 Self respect 100000000/10
@@CherepashkaShusha Borsod, Abaúj, Zemplén, Szabolcs, Bereg, Ugocsa and Szatmár counties. Ung became a Habsburg enclave surrounded by Transylvanian-administered areas.
@@ashtonhawkins4639 To put it simply, the various Transylvanian princes of the time conducted opportunist strikes against the Habsburgs to gain as much control over Hungary as possible. Whenever the tides seemed to be turning, they always quickly made peace to minimise their losses and attain as much concessions as possible.
Fun fact, France was ruled by a catholic cardinal (Cardinal Richelieu) and HE CHOSE to side with the protestants. A member of the catholic church, at the helm of one of the big powers, sided with the protestants in one of the most critical wars for Christianity, let that sink in.
france was not fighting against catholics, but habsburgs. cuz richelieu and bourbons were enemies of the habsburg dinasty, and france wanted to weak the habsburg supremacy in west europe. richelieu fought against protestants in france, specially against a sect known as the huguenots.
It's even more disturbing when you know that they are basically the only reason the initially under-powered protestant side won. The Danish and Swedish interventions were both initiated and paid for by France, and it's the French armies who relived the pressure on the Swedes that were starting to lose, and finally won the war despite fighting the Spanish too (who were, if I'm not mistaken, almost not involved, as they couldn't reach the battlefield and had to deal with the Dutch [see 80 years war]). Oh, and did I mention that France initially supported Austria in its fight? Richelieu changed his mind when the already very powerful Hasburgs used this war to get control over the rich Bohemian lands. A single bad choice decided the fate of Austria, Spain, the Hasburgs, and Catholicism in Europe as a whole. Let that sink in.
@@maloflory how i hate that. France paid for its mistake at the French Revolution: Catholicism was persecuted and the world would never be the same again
No, Habsbourg vs France....A fight that began with the King of France François I against the Empire which surrounded his country and which ended with the victory of France with Louis XIV
Economists: hey Sapin you are the most powerful empire, you just have enough money for I don't know... maybe one of the biggest and longest war in history against everyone and just because of religion. Spain: Oh let's go then Spain economy: F
What a pity that the Anglo-Saxon vision of this war has prevailed so much, the rivalry between Protestants and Catholics was an important point but the axis of the war was clearly the fight between Habsburgs and Anti-Habsburgs. Both the Bohemian, Danish and Swedish armies were decisively defeated at some point, and at that time the Anti-Habsburg situation was supported financially, diplomatically and / or militarily by France, the Russian Zaratus and the Ottoman Empire. On the other hand, the Catholics Savoy and Venice were for many years on the Anti-Habsburg side, and the Protestant Saxony spent much of the war on the Habsburg side. The confrontation between Sweden and Denmark also makes it clear that religion was not such a determining factor as to position itself on a side.
Great job! It's very accurate, that's what I like 👍 It would by good idea to make animation with any country/force in other color, not only te aliances in blue and red, becouse sometimes some country was officialy in alliance, but they don't even fighted 😆
If you play Sabaton's "a lifetime of war" to this video the line "theyve been to a war a decade two more to come" occurs just as a decade of war passes
Thanks for the effort you put into this video! I have a question: Do you have a source for all the Transylvanian invasions of Austria? I've looked it up, but haven't found anything about Transylvania playing that much of an important rule in the war. I would find it interesting to read about how Transylvania got all the way to Vienna. Thanks :)
For Transylvanian invasions of Austria I mainly used articles about rulers of Transylvania :D 1. Gabriel Bethlen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Bethlen 2. George I Rakoczi en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_I_R%C3%A1k%C3%B3czi
It is very likely tbey would have besieged and taken Vienna, however the PLC saved the city once again by joining the war and cutting off transylvanian supply lines and forcing them to retreat (they were going to meet up with protstant bohemian forcez))
In addition, during winter of 1644-5, the Swedish marhsal Lenart Torstenson made agreements with the French armies and with Transylvanian prince Gyorgy Rakoczi to march on Vienna together, and they also sent messages to the protestants of Upper Austria, urging them to rebel, in the hopes of that, with the combined forces of Sweden, France, Transylvania and Upper Austria, they could besiege and capture Vienna together. Unfortunately,:Torstenson was sick throughout his lifetime and retired in late 1645, though the Swedes continued on, and linked up with the Transylvanians, as seen in the video; the French never managed to get their armies even remotely in range of Austria's core; Gyorgy Rakoczi was eventually ordered by the Ottoman sultan, to whom he was vassal of, to stand down and peace out (stupid decision on the Ottomans' part, if you ask me); Upper Austrian support for an anti-Habsburg revolt and/or a march towards Vienna never materialized. Thus, even though the Swedes and Transylvanians advanced pretty close to Vienna, the lack of French and Upper Austrian support rendered an attack in Vienna's direction, and, therefore, a siege of Vienna, not worth the risk.
It would have been very ironic if, after helping the Protestants abroad, the Protestant countries would have helped the Huguenots take over power in France. Richelieu would surely have shot himself in the foot if that had been the case.
Thats why Richelieu only joined the war when the Huguenots were mostly dealt with in France. Besides one has to remember that the protestants were losing without France's support they would be fighting against the strongest land army in Europe after being devastated by decades of conflicts while France was relatively fresh with 20 million peop
Not a peace treaty, there was only a truce between Spain and the United Provinces so the war was still going on. In other words we ended up fighting two wars at the same time, one being country vs country an the other being religion vs religion.
2:08 I'd like to learn more about the adventures of those soldiers travelling on their own from Germany, through Bohemia all the way to what I presume are their Romanian allies
@@CherepashkaShusha If I'm correct isn't that the one that got defeated before help could arrive so it fled to Transylvania and Mansfeld died of disease among the way?
This was more about weakening Spain’s dominance in the world. You have to remember that the Holy Roman Empire was part of the Spanish empire they were very closely tied . So it was basically everybody against Spain
@@atsava you must be joking? The hapsburg were married into the Spanish royal family on the strict conditions that all were to be born educated as Castilians. Do you think Isabel is a fool? Probably one of the best monarchs in the history of Europe.
Should Portugal be considered part of the Protestant side after 1640? They were fighting both sides (Spain and the Netherlands) so it makes sense they were included as a third party post 1640.
I believe they had a kind if agreement with the Dutch to stop hostilities for a while. So officialy the protestant side makes sense. Not that the Dutch (and Brazilians) cared for the agreement tho.
Summary: Austria: Fights for a defenestrated man. Denmark: Enters war, gets fucked, switches sides, gets fucked. England: Fights for Protestants. Spain: Fights for Catholics. Poland: Fights Sweden. Sweden: Fights Poland. Transylvania: Enters war, fucks Austria, leaves war, proceeds to join the war 2 more times. Ottomans: Fights for ? Russians: Fights for ? France: Fights for the opposite religion. Winner: Nobody. Map changes: None. Casualties: 4,5mil-8mil.
France and Sweden benefitted substantially tho. France's main enemies were weakened and Sweden grew to later become a great power albeit temperorarily.
This video nicely shows how army movement looked back then. "Snail-Trails" to crucial targets. Either the target falls and the region with it or the snake disappears.
So you are Catholic France: Yes And you hate Protestants France: yes Then fight along with the Catholic league Farnce: ok **fights the Catholic league**
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You have the Protestant forces, the Catholic forces
and Scotland
:D
Don't forget the Irish Rebels
And France wich is catholic but fight with protestants 😂
@@laptitemusicienne3183 Oh yes, the typical french opportunism during all europpean wars :v.
Poor catholic Spain to have him as a neighbourgh
Sr L 😂😅
I like how Denmark joined the protestants, got yeeted immediately, switched sides and then got yeeted again.
Time stamp
@@mississippiball1003 Can you just rewatch the video? But anyway here they are 2:30 5:48
foken swedes attacked us right after we got hurt bad fighting on their side
@@thedano-spaniard2204 It wasn't exactly uncalled for if you look at the big picture, the sound toll for example and also the rivalry between Sweden and Denmark, you wouldn't have stood much of a chance even if you didn't join the 30 years war considering Sweden's professional army being one of the best in Europe at the time, in the end tho I'm happy to see that the Denmark-Sweden rivalry still lives on in games such as CS:GO where Sweden once was uncontested nr.1 but Denmark now (from what i last saw from it at least) dominates
@@DaydreamingSwede Being the best at CS:GO is not something to be proud of.
Ah the three famous Christian denominations:
- Catholics
- Protestants
- France
France: allies of the Ottoman empire, "catholic" in name but helped by the infidels, now a new muslim country
@@frostrx5115 fucking france, always betray spain xD, ally of shit, france is like the italians for the germanys
@@ferchulanderful habsburgs and france were old rivals so cant really blame france
@@ferchulanderful Cant blame em, it was a smart move, they crushed their rivals power, religiously and politically, and they were probably the sole reason why Protestantism survived as it did, though only a small portion of their population was protestant, they did have a protestant king.
@@jadenstar1038 France only had many troops to sacrify so whenever there is a war they use them. No need to ask why Revolution came.
2020 Europe: we have so many problems
1600's Europe: Am I joke to you?
they basically had 3 epidemics while fighting with each other and we're here complaining about 1 lol
1400s as well. Because shit went down amd kept going down
2020 Europe basically Vat-2 Catholics, LGBT Prots, Atheists and Muslims
@@ZuoCruz and all of that... garbage has destroyed europe. I mean the things you were talking about
1914 Europe: AMATURES
Is war between Catholics and Protestants
Orthdoxy (Russia) And Islam (Ottomans): Hello there.
And France was a catholic country but fight against Catholics
@@Jean-wx4wh it was a smart political move though.
@@Jean-wx4wh they saved protestantism
what about ottoman transilvanaia
@@goktugyldz574 You mean ' Orthodox ' Transylvania ruled by Hungarian Catholics who were vassal to the Turks ?
Resume of the war
Spain : *fight for catholiscism*
England : *fight for protestantism*
Ottoman Empire and Russia : *fight for wtf reason*
France : Bonjour
scotland and ireland: Hello there!
Ottoman and Russia fought because protestants saved enough mana to cast Summon Russia and Summon Ottoman at some point.
They also several times casted Summon Dracula, as we can see
Transolvania was a ottoman vassal which was protestant and usually get in trouble with catholics and ottomans have to step up to protect their vassals.
@@tycuygfyfyfh5498 Pretty sure Transylvania was primarily Orthodox at the time, and was pretty much only a vassal due to the fact that it was more beneficial to keep it out of the Ottoman bureaucracy and still reap the benefits of sapping the region of all that it was worth, and making sure they didn't build forts so they could roll in whenever they pleased.
Ottoman and Russian fought just for each other, that's kinda sweet
That moment when you realize all this started only because some angry Bohemians threw 3 men out of the window.
For a second time
@@Monkey_triplets actually third
into a pile of crap (not joking, look it up)
Into a pile of shit
@Poopity Scoop Sure, but the propaganda version is more fun.
Catholics vs Protestants
Russia and Ottoman Emp.:Hello can we play too?
Knk avrupa da din ayrılığı olduğu için osmanlı destekledi protestanları.
Do you see that island of Catholics in Bohemia at 6:11? That's my hometown of Brno. There is a legend that after a long siege, the Swedish forces made a plan. If they don't surrender until noon, we'll fall back and find a better target. Some Bohemian spy heard it and because the city's supplies and ammo were nearly depleted, they rung the bells an hour before noon. The Swedes heard the bells and marched away. From that day, all the bells in Brno always ring at 11 am.
However it’s truly only a legend. In fact, around 500 soldiers with support of the citizens (most sources say 1.000 citizens participated in the defence) managed to defend the city against an army made of nearly 30.000 men for roughly 3 months.
@@David-du4xs yeah, I learned that when I visited Špilberk fortress last week. There is a beautiful painting of that battle, all the pikes and muskets..
I didnt know it, thank you - this siege is worth to remember!
Zdravím moraváka. Bydlím u Brna v Dražovicích!
Ok moravec XDDD
3:30 *Russian join a war
3:37 *Ottoman join a war
Catholic:Hold Up
Unfortunetelly, in real world they never joined
@Pax Sarmatica Nope, because PLC never joined 30 years war. Educate yourself.
Zygmunt III nigdy nie dołączył do wojny, choć chciał. Zablokowała go magnateria. Wysłał jedynie Lisowczyków jako najemników, bo inaczej musiałby ich powywieszać gdy wrócili z Rosji.
@Pax Sarmatica Oh well, Poles are such heroes who go to war with Russia during the revolution and lose to the peasant militia, we know)
@@Genrihovich85 Time of troubles? Poland smashed armies 10 times their times (Klushino) during that conflict, unless you mean the Polish Bolshevik war which the soviets also lost.
@@WWSzar
Yes, a troubled time, when the Rurik dynasty died down and the power struggle was on, the Poles wanted to slip their ruler under this business. When the Romanovs came to power, Russia won all the wars before the Bolsheviks arrived.
In the battle of Klushinsky, the Poles were not 10 times smaller, but in 4-5, yes, the Polish cavalry won, crushing the infantry, nothing surprising.
An important side-effect of this war was that it forced peasants in middle Europe to switch from growing grain to cultivating potatoes, just to survive.
Armies could rush through, burning wheat, oat and rye fields, but they couldn't destroy potato fields easily. Plus, cavalry units, in particular, would avoid potato fields because their green tops are poisonous, being members of the deadly nightshade family of plants. (Only sweet potato greens are edible: they belong to a different plant family.)
Dang, that's crazy
So basically living in Europe back then sucked
@@tentthegamer790 it was always sucky. Middle class people today have far far better lives than royalties of the past.
@@Chris-hp9be I'd rather live like shit if I was free of judaism
@@tentthegamer790 historians: do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down
Christian War
Ottoman Empire:join the game
The separation of religion was in the interests of the Ottomans, so it supported the protestants.
Ottomans: Merhaba
war about catholics and protestants
Russia and Ottomans:looks fun
Obviously the forces of evil would favor the Protestant cause.
The Ottomans joined the Protestant side to shit on Austria I think, not out of any religious motivation.
Catholic League: You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Protestants, not join them!
France: *_STONKS_*
It's even funnier when you know that at the start of the war, France was (diplomatically) supporting the Hasburgs in their battle against a common enemy. And then Austria decided to benefit from this war to annex parts of Bohemia. The French, already annoyed by the very, very large power of the Hasburgs (who were in control of Austria and the Spanish Empire), decided to help the protestants, paying the Danes to fight, and then the Swedes (that's why you can see both joining the war against the Catholic league and invading Germany). Then, once freed of its internal trouble, France joined the battlefield and teamed up with Sweden to bring an end to this war.
By a single political move, Austria doomed itself and forever weakened both its royal dynasty and its religion!
Star wars reference
@@maloflory Sweden was pretty much knocked out of the war when they were all but completely destroyed at the Battle of Nordlingen.
The Spanish Tercios overcame the Swedes with ease,even with the so called new advancements from Adolphus LOL.
@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Speak with facts, not nationalism, please.
Lets focus on Nordlingen.
The terico is not what won Nordlingen. The Spanish had almost 10 thousand more troops that the Swedish did at the battle, as well as had a better defensive position and favorable terrain. The Spanish had literally every single advantage compared to the Swedes, and pressed those.
Furthermore, the event that is considered to have lost the battle was a Swedish blunder, not a Spanish triumph. A cavalry brigade charged prematurely, leaving its gunners expose, and proceed to ignore orders and begin to hunt down the retreating forces. This led Horns unguarded gunners to be confused, and they began firing on the other horse, infantry, and gun regiments that had already moved forward or were closed to the Spanish lines. A majority of the Swedish casualties came from friendly fire and the Spanish attacking forces that were unable to distinguish friend and foe and were attacking said friend and foe, as well as a disorganized army that were all doing their own thing. Was the Spanish leadership wise to see these flaws and press their advantages? Yes. Was the Terico any of these advantages? No. Hell, most of the Spanish casualties were *because* the terico. The terico allowed the Swedish that weren't in complete chaos to fire and do way more casualties to the terico than the terico was able to do back. The terico was even considered by the Spanish leaders to be the weakest part of their forces, given how poorly they perform against the Swedish gun formations.
Now onto everything else you said.
Was the Swedish army destroyed? No. Was the Swedish army able to rebuild in months and rejoin the war? Yes. Destroying the Swedish army was useful, but they were fightinf an army of mercenaries and more modern soldiers. Sweden had been training more soldiers in the case that this happens, and could hire mercenaries incredibly easily. The losses Sweden suffered were replaceble, and it did nothing to actually impact the war. This is unlike Breitenfeld, in which the Imperials were unable to regain their lost momentum and only got their armies to a similar strength to that of Brietenfeld when combining with their allies, such as the Spanish or Austrians.
And your last point...
These were innovations. Id like to remind you that well before the end of the war Spain had adapted several of these into their own army, and wer on the cusp of dropping the terico completely and utterly. They spent the entirety of the early fighting against effectively rebellions, who they always outbumbered by a notable amount, and a sea war against England, their rebellions, Swedish, and Italian navies. Come the French phase, and you see Spain engaging in larger scale battles against France and look what happened. France, who used these innovations, pretty much destroyed the Spanish in any notaboe battle they fought in, with all of the exceptions pretty much *always* being because of similar circumstances as Nordlingen; loss of control over armies, fighting offensive battles outnumbered, and the Spanish always taking casualties because, from their generals own mouths, the inferiority of the Terico.
@@7777-z7p Please......
If the Swedes had kept the hilltop it would of ended in disaster for the Spanish-Imperial forces.
But,the Tercio not only retook the hill but fought back 15 attacks LOL.
Actually it was 8 thousands more not 10.
Had every advantage?
The Spanish had to retake a hilltop and they did it on their first try.....
The Swedish army was all but destroyed.
it took them two years to come back not 6 months LOL.
What innovations did the Tercio incorporate?
Even funnier,the Tercio was not fully replaced until the 1700's......
Well after the 80 year war LOL.
You truly know shit.
Spain developed Pike and shot because of the Italian wars moron.
The French were mopping the floor with them because of their dominance in heavy cavalry.
Large scale battles against France?
You do know Spain has defeated France many times and in many wars?
Hell,the Spanish even captured King Francis I in battle LOL.
Yes a unit able to take up to 60% casualty rate and not run is inferior......
Fact is even in Spain's worst it still out did the Swedes.
Server status:
0:43 Poland joined the server
2:51 Poland left the server
3:29 Poland joined the server
3:53 Poland left the server
Blame the Polish wi-fi
2:51 and 3:53 internet connection
Poland was in war with Russia, isn't?
@@frostrx5115 yeah, I guess we were included becuase we sent some forces to help Austria like for example cutting off the Transylvanians before they could join up with Bohemia and besiege Vienna and so any attavk on us was by extension an attack on the catholics even though we were pretty multicultural at the time. Either way the Russians attacked to take back Smolensk which they'd lost a few years earlier but Poland won and Sweden attacked to get Livonia which they succeeded in because we were occupied with the ottomans but I'm not sure why they attacked.
@@frostrx5115 With Russia, Sweden and the Ottomans
Nah it can’t be the wifi, cuz why else would Hitler try invading a country with poor wifi?!
WAIT A SECOND!
The Ottomans and Russians joined on the same side
*Visible confusion*
Don't be so confused. That had happened several times.
The actual russo-ottoman conflict began during the great turkish war. Almost all of europe went to war against the ottomans and that war also marked the first time that russia formally cooperate with the west.
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@Wilson Santos WHAT CURSED WORLD IS THIS?
Better lay out the double bed
This was the most dangerous thing of the german history. In this conflict 8 milion Germans died(30% of the total population). In WWI they lost 3 milion, 7 milions in WWII...... Cant even imagine how distructive this conflict was
Maybe Germans only lost 7M in WW2, but they murdured 30M more, so WW2 was still destructive
@@666bambucia of course yes, but i'm talking about Germany. The most destructive conflict they had was not the WWII but the thirty years war.
The One True King Is murder the correct term?It was war what did ya expect
@@hx5525 It was an unjustified war so murder is the correct term.
The One True King Murdered 30 million?Sources?
If I recall correctly, France didn't really care about the war, but saw it as a way to weaken the Hapsburgs, who controlled the HRE and Spain at that point. So France funded and supplied the war for several years, but didn't fight itself. Sweden was the main Protestant aggressor, and France funded them. Until the Swedish king died. That could have led to Sweden pulling out entirely due to moral, which would have led to a hapsburg victory, so France and Sweden switched roles with France directly fighting and Sweden supporting the effort financially.
Also, it was assumed that 40% of the overall German population died in this war.
More like the spanish king controlled the habsburg.
This move was perfect against spain
The best part was that Catholic France was funding the Protestant Sweden to fight the Catholic Habsburgs on behalf of the Protestant Germans in a religious war. Eventually Catholic France was fighting the Catholic Habsburgs on behalf of the Protestants in Germany while being funded by the Protestant Swedish.
It was kinda stupid.
@@LordofTheFallen France isnt known for its pro gamer move. It's always Révolution or war but you know ? We were 3 times more than Englan or Holland and as many and almost as powerfull as Habsburgs (because they had America's gold) so r/woof
Some German states even losed 2/3 of their entire population tho
The swedes and the frenchmen teaming up
like the good o'l days
France joining the Protestant cause despite being led by a Catholic bishop, Cardinal Richelieu, is one of my favorite diplomatic moves ever. It shows what statesmanship is. Richelieu rightfully understood that the real enemy of France were the Habsburg, not the Protestants, and at the end France was one of the few countries to benefit from the war. In the same time, Richelieu was harassing the French Protestants, the Huguenots, at home. Your enemy within can be your ally abroad because this is a false acknowledgment to believe that a nation must be at war against an ideology.
How were Richelieu and the king not excommunicated by the Pope? Up until then, the great risk of breaking Catholic unity was to be excommunicated, which had a profound spiritual impact in a world were religion provided many existential answers for the people. The prospect of dying while excommunicated was still terrifying, as it meant that Heaven was forever shut closed for that person. So being Catholic and a cardinal, how did Richelieu not fear that?
Alvaro Gomez Vivas Probably because if excommunicated they could create a protestant Church of France, in retaliation to the Pope, similar to the Church of England.
@@alvarogomezvivas7844 The pope was not stupid. There were 2 risk.
The first, Louis the 14th building a gallic church like in England.
The second, french troops came to Rome and bring back the pope in Avignon to keep him and "protect" him.
@@himlingpatrice fair enough. It nevertheless was a cynical decision, no doubt, and I think in other times it would have been inconceivable. But these were not the Middle Ages anymore, so I guess even though these were wars of religion, it was becoming accepted that religion wasn't everything. Plus France had already done similar moves in the past, such as allying themselves with the Ottomans against the Habsburgs , so I guess it did not come as such a huge surprise.
makes me vomit
Swedish forces in german states: "I'm bored, been raiding and fighting here for years, there's nothing to do."
Denmark 5:40 "Let me introduce myself"
Swedish forces in german states: "Yay, something to do! :D"
Spain has a great world empire
Spanish Habsburgs: We are going to waste all the wealth coming from America in very expensive wars to help our Austrian cousins.
Spaniards: But we will not win anything in central Europe.
Spanish Habsburgs: We don't care
Spaniards: :c
England and France: Excellent
Perfect resume of the Spanish Empire under Hagsburg dominance.
Even so, i still prefer them too the frenchies Borbons anyday.
Spain saw itself as the catholic Empire.
Fighting for an allied country, while also fighting protestants was not very controversial in Madrid.
When Spain joined the war, nobody knew the scale of the conflict, it looked like a very easy win for the Habsburgs.
Similarly a strong Habsburg ruled HRE was in the very interest of Spain, it would come handy in the case of war with France.
And that is the same reason why France, who whas fighting her own protestants, joined on the side of the other protestants, to keep the Habsburgs from dominating Europe.
@@Defsould hasburg under rule of spain open a goddammit book
More accurate
Spaniards: why this Heresy still alive?
@@Defsould well under habsburg spain had its best time after that is was declining till now
Very underrated.
Thanks!!
Nice flag
*War between catholics and protestants*
Muslim Ottomans and Orthodox Russians: now this looks like a job for me
Orthodox is nothing but Russian Church, and Islam is nothing but Turkish church.
@@ul-rf4ym Greece, were orthodox church was born.
"I am a joke to you?"
@@ul-rf4ym Blasphemy
bro this is legit one of my favorite mapping videos by far, i learned so much more about the 30 years' war here than any of the other 20 minute videos talking about it. good job!
UK: _win the war_
Germany: _lose the war_
Italy: _lose the war and then switch sides to win the war_
Denmark: _lose the war and then switch sides only to lose again_
Is the WWI, WWII, or the 30 years war?
@@anthonyreynolds1995 30 years war
Germany didn't existed the fuck are you talking about. You're like Lvl 0 in history. Know history better. . Germany was created in 1871. It was the holy Roman empire or later Prussia
@@gutsjoestar7450 haha... no... the first German state was created in 843 AD after the treaty of Verdun...
Also, I was talking about Germany... you know... the one thta lost the war 100 years ago and 80 years ago...
Are you stupid. I know that. What I'm saying is that during the 30 years war Germany didn't existed. And why are you talking about the old Germany if it wasn't there in the video. Plus another historical error. During the treaty of Verdun in 843 A.D it doesn't created Germany. The purpose of this treaty was to split the Frankish empire of Charlemagne beetwen his grandsons. And it wasn't Germany yet. It was Louis the german's kingdom he was the son of a Frankish dynasty. There is a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE. ALSO CALLED EAST FRANCIA. Plus the people living there were German But German was just a ethnic group not a country. The people living in the holy Roman empire (pretending they were roman) were a German ethnic group
A third of entire German population died during this war,main reason of Germany’s being uniting late and being late in colonialism.
That was terrible...
@Good Boi Yeah, they have tons of natural resources anyway.
It was because of the HRE.
the catholic south got to recover faster than the protestant north.
beaucoup de français protestants sont venus repeupler l'Allemagne après l'édit de Fontainebleau.
Meanwhile orthodox Russia remembered what Catholics did to Constantinople in 1204 and joined.
While muslim Turks conquered constantinople
@Krzysztof Bartczak Smolensk retaken?
it happened because of the massacre of latinos in may of 1182 ,The pope scummed the participants, but the agitators knew and used it to anger the warriors, if the massacre had not happened years before or the failure to pay the crusaders none of this would have happened.
search for it before saying shit.
maybe they remembered, but it was securing the west that were on the Muscovites minds.
Спасибо большое Вам за действительно наглядное освещение такой непонятной, огромной, многосторонней войны! Вы, как всегда, на высоте! Мало кто из мапперов сейчас подписывает города на карте и все стороны конфликта. Лишь у Вас по-настоящему качественный контент!
Отдельная благодарность за музыкальное сопровождение!
Scotland, Ireland and France be like: "Switcheroo!"
France never change is politic (lead by Richelieu) : Fight the Protestant inside the Kingdom and fight the Habsburgs outside so if the Habsburgs fight with catholic France fight with Protestant its like a 17 century Cold War (France was surrounded by them with Spain and HRE)
And the ottoman muslims hate all chirstians but they joined protestant to later besiege vienna
The Ottomans and the Russians though they surrendered when an inch of homeland was taken
Impressive job mate !
Thank you for this video, a really great help to figure a very complexe war.
Transylvania must have been the most annoying thing ever for the Austrians.
Transylvania:
Join the war
Invade Austria
Leave the war
Repeat
Habsburgs: "We already made you King-Elect of Hungary! Why do you keep fighting us!?"
Gabriel Bethlen: "Because you're autocrats who oppress Protestants, and they keep forging alliances with me."
Such an amazing work!
The Thirty Years’ War is a very long and chaotic war, but in this animation is so much attention to detail👍
Self respect 100000000/10
Im surprised there arent more comments about Transylvania dipping in and out of the war conquering the same strip of land every time
This is amazing.
Thanks!!
@@CherepashkaShusha это игра такая?
Bruh it's the frickin guy that made the poland vid
@@germanfan6481He is one of the best mappers
They should teach about this in the schools. Really interesting!
Nah it would be boring to learn about catholic protestant battle royale in an Indian textbook
they do? but that also depends on where u are from
Transilvania: I will fight
Also Transilvania: Ok peace
Transilvania again: ok lets fight again
Also Transilvania again: ok bye
transylvania is like a pro gamer who keeps disconnecting every 10 seconds due to network issues
Or, like a gamer who keeps winning and then backing out whilst he's ahead, then rejoining to gain some more victories.
Incredible work! That's a very good video for such a complicated and long war as the Thirty Years'! Keep up the good work ;D
Spain: catholic vs Protestants
German princes: Protestants vs catholic
France: Catholic but vs Spain that’s also catholic wtf
France and spain ware rival
it also misses the detail that Sweden was outright FUNDED by France.
seriously check the treaty of bärwälde
Amazing. My only nitpick is that the Habsburgs actually ceded 7 counties to Transylvania, after their first conflict ended, but you didn't show that.
Thanks!! This is true, but I didn't find information which Habsburg counties were ceded to Transylvania...
@@CherepashkaShusha Borsod, Abaúj, Zemplén, Szabolcs, Bereg, Ugocsa and Szatmár counties.
Ung became a Habsburg enclave surrounded by Transylvanian-administered areas.
@@fehervari98 Okay
you know why transylvania kept on leaving and then joining back tho?
@@ashtonhawkins4639 To put it simply, the various Transylvanian princes of the time conducted opportunist strikes against the Habsburgs to gain as much control over Hungary as possible. Whenever the tides seemed to be turning, they always quickly made peace to minimise their losses and attain as much concessions as possible.
Really love the animation, looks smooth and stunning, good job!
Thank you very much!!
Сolleague, it is your video about Thirty Year's War has motivated me to make the same. Thanks again!
@@CherepashkaShusha Hey, glad it did! And NP.
"And the protestants were equalised with catholics forever,,
Meanwhile in Bohemia: Am I a joke to you?
0:53 Ottoman Empire (Boss) joined to server...
Catholic Countries: wtf dude this was just a Christian war !
They immediatly started losing territories to the Hapsburgs after they attacked them. They should never been involved.
the boss were spanish and swedish empire in the most of the fronts of the war
well, the ottoman empire had some orthodox people :v
@@SrLx1 some? yk that balkan was full of orthodox people almost
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 there were also some muslims and chatolics, and at the time also a lot of jews.
Fun fact, France was ruled by a catholic cardinal (Cardinal Richelieu) and HE CHOSE to side with the protestants. A member of the catholic church, at the helm of one of the big powers, sided with the protestants in one of the most critical wars for Christianity, let that sink in.
france was not fighting against catholics, but habsburgs. cuz richelieu and bourbons were enemies of the habsburg dinasty, and france wanted to weak the habsburg supremacy in west europe. richelieu fought against protestants in france, specially against a sect known as the huguenots.
It's even more disturbing when you know that they are basically the only reason the initially under-powered protestant side won. The Danish and Swedish interventions were both initiated and paid for by France, and it's the French armies who relived the pressure on the Swedes that were starting to lose, and finally won the war despite fighting the Spanish too (who were, if I'm not mistaken, almost not involved, as they couldn't reach the battlefield and had to deal with the Dutch [see 80 years war]). Oh, and did I mention that France initially supported Austria in its fight?
Richelieu changed his mind when the already very powerful Hasburgs used this war to get control over the rich Bohemian lands. A single bad choice decided the fate of Austria, Spain, the Hasburgs, and Catholicism in Europe as a whole. Let that sink in.
Arc66 They did the best move possible
@@maloflory how i hate that. France paid for its mistake at the French Revolution: Catholicism was persecuted and the world would never be the same again
More then half of the world relates bro.
Ah yes, the three great Christian religions:
- Catholics.
- Protestants.
- France.
No, Habsbourg vs France....A fight that began with the King of France François I against the Empire which surrounded his country and which ended with the victory of France with Louis XIV
@@JRos-qc6kw ça a commencé même avant sous Louis XI après la mort de Charles de téméraire.
I'm blown away. How do you not have more subs?
Thank you!!!
I like how Transylvania kept occupying the same Habsburg land repeatedly without gaining anything at any point
They just loved joining anti-Habsburg alliances constantly, ha ha.
Anyone: **exists**
Sweden: *no*
Europe: Violence is the question and 'YES' is the answer
Italy: We're best at switching sides!
France: *Observe.*
Denmark:
What?
2:53 Habsburgs and their allies: Why do I hear boss music?
*Gustavus Adolfus has joined the server*
biggest plot twist to me, Ottoman Empire & Russia picking the same side :O - 3:36
Are you in the protestants forces
France : N...NOO the heck. I'm just France
So i guess you're on Catholics forces
" : I said I'm France
Transylvania *joins the war*
Europe: that's just boring
Also Transylvania: *Proceeds to somehow take over half of Hungary*
@magyarmem Horváth You're right, It was More!
@magyarmem Horváth I was referring to Habsburg controlled Hungary, which you can clearly see that in the first invasion they took over half of.
@magyarmem Horváth But the part of Hungary they controlled had half of it taken, You can see on the map they made it all the way to Bohemia.
"Russia and Ottomans on the same side"
*Wait that's impossible!*
Economists: hey Sapin you are the most powerful empire, you just have enough money for I don't know... maybe one of the biggest and longest war in history against everyone and just because of religion.
Spain: Oh let's go then
Spain economy: F
At least they had the best forces, the tercios, but F to economy haha
This wasnt by far the longest war in history
SAPIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO SAPIN= LITTLE FROG IN PORTUGUESE HAHAHAHAHAHAMAAOALAMMAOA
@@Lucas-zx9dr In some spanish dialects too
@@happyfriend341 cool
Bohemia's flag: *exists*
The Poles: *maximum butthurt achieved*
Yes i've got butthurt
@@josealpaca356 Why?
The current flag of the Czech republic is just as nicer :)
I made a map in Age of Civillizations 2 of the 30 years war and showed it to my teacher (we were seeing that period) and she really liked it :)
0:31 Border readjustment after the time of troubles. Excellent detail.
Denmark-Norway joins Protestants 😀
Denmark-Norway signs peace🙂
Denmark-Norway joins Catholics🤨
It's not really that they joined the catholics but more that Sweden blitzkrieg'ed them without even a declaration of war.
That was the important Facto of Sweden as dominant power of Nord-Eastern Europe
This map is made really well. I love it and if I had a chance to give it more than 1 like, I'd do it. You have a new subscriber, keep doing these!
Little mistake (very little) :
Until 1640 there was the Iberian union instead of Spanish Empire.
It was basically Spain, like with Castille and Aragon
Cool, i am from Venetian republic, we actually joined only nominally because austrians attacked us
Thank you Kaiser from Silesia !
Silesia is Katholical country for ever !
this (or ollie bye's two recent videos) is the most accurate mapping video about the thirty years war ive seen yet.
Poland: "I was raped and partitioned between my neighbours."
Germany: "Halt mal mein Bier!"
Sweden pushed into Berlin and München, Britain and France pushed the west, Denmark just died
What a pity that the Anglo-Saxon vision of this war has prevailed so much, the rivalry between Protestants and Catholics was an important point but the axis of the war was clearly the fight between Habsburgs and Anti-Habsburgs. Both the Bohemian, Danish and Swedish armies were decisively defeated at some point, and at that time the Anti-Habsburg situation was supported financially, diplomatically and / or militarily by France, the Russian Zaratus and the Ottoman Empire. On the other hand, the Catholics Savoy and Venice were for many years on the Anti-Habsburg side, and the Protestant Saxony spent much of the war on the Habsburg side. The confrontation between Sweden and Denmark also makes it clear that religion was not such a determining factor as to position itself on a side.
Great job !
Thank you very much!!!
It took over 100 years for German and Austrian cities to recover from this mess.
Great attention to detail on the map! 👍
Great job! It's very accurate, that's what I like 👍
It would by good idea to make animation with any country/force in other color, not only te aliances in blue and red, becouse sometimes some country was officialy in alliance, but they don't even fighted 😆
Thank you very much!! Oh, I had plans to add more colors... But in practice that caused confusion and some colors don't combined between themselves
If you play Sabaton's "a lifetime of war" to this video the line "theyve been to a war a decade two more to come" occurs just as a decade of war passes
Basically.
Sweden saved protestantism
And then France saved it even more.
Ottomans were big, mate
Thanks for the effort you put into this video!
I have a question: Do you have a source for all the Transylvanian invasions of Austria? I've looked it up, but haven't found anything about Transylvania playing that much of an important rule in the war. I would find it interesting to read about how Transylvania got all the way to Vienna. Thanks :)
For Transylvanian invasions of Austria I mainly used articles about rulers of Transylvania :D
1. Gabriel Bethlen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Bethlen
2. George I Rakoczi en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_I_R%C3%A1k%C3%B3czi
@@CherepashkaShusha Thanks!
It is very likely tbey would have besieged and taken Vienna, however the PLC saved the city once again by joining the war and cutting off transylvanian supply lines and forcing them to retreat (they were going to meet up with protstant bohemian forcez))
In addition, during winter of 1644-5, the Swedish marhsal Lenart Torstenson made agreements with the French armies and with Transylvanian prince Gyorgy Rakoczi to march on Vienna together, and they also sent messages to the protestants of Upper Austria, urging them to rebel, in the hopes of that, with the combined forces of Sweden, France, Transylvania and Upper Austria, they could besiege and capture Vienna together. Unfortunately,:Torstenson was sick throughout his lifetime and retired in late 1645, though the Swedes continued on, and linked up with the Transylvanians, as seen in the video; the French never managed to get their armies even remotely in range of Austria's core; Gyorgy Rakoczi was eventually ordered by the Ottoman sultan, to whom he was vassal of, to stand down and peace out (stupid decision on the Ottomans' part, if you ask me); Upper Austrian support for an anti-Habsburg revolt and/or a march towards Vienna never materialized. Thus, even though the Swedes and Transylvanians advanced pretty close to Vienna, the lack of French and Upper Austrian support rendered an attack in Vienna's direction, and, therefore, a siege of Vienna, not worth the risk.
@@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBVmore like they don't whant to be humiliated by one of their vasal
It would have been very ironic if, after helping the Protestants abroad, the Protestant countries would have helped the Huguenots take over power in France. Richelieu would surely have shot himself in the foot if that had been the case.
Huguenots were, tho dangerous, a minority. Catholicism had way too much influence in France for it to become a Protestant country.
Thats why Richelieu only joined the war when the Huguenots were mostly dealt with in France.
Besides one has to remember that the protestants were losing without France's support they would be fighting against the strongest land army in Europe after being devastated by decades of conflicts while France was relatively fresh with 20 million peop
Has man gone insane?
A few will remain
Who'll find a way
To live one more day?
Spain and England sings pace
Spain and united provinces sings pice
12 years later
Oh shit, hear we go again
What if one could sing the pice,
AND sign the peace!
LOL
Not a peace treaty, there was only a truce between Spain and the United Provinces so the war was still going on. In other words we ended up fighting two wars at the same time, one being country vs country an the other being religion vs religion.
Spain need to fight without honor again France, England and their minions if they want to win. They haven't honor in war and peace.
Weda Aesir yes i know but I don’t know how to say it in English because I am Spanish Xd
I love how Transylvania was just joining and leaving the war.
You need more subs ! Bro i am going to put you on my recommended
Thank you very much, bro!!
2:08 I'd like to learn more about the adventures of those soldiers travelling on their own from Germany, through Bohemia all the way to what I presume are their Romanian allies
This was army under the command of Protestant general, Ernst von Mansfeld
@@CherepashkaShusha If I'm correct isn't that the one that got defeated before help could arrive so it fled to Transylvania and Mansfeld died of disease among the way?
This Video and a few others of this channel has now made me realize one thing, I must subscribe
This was more about weakening Spain’s dominance in the world. You have to remember that the Holy Roman Empire was part of the Spanish empire they were very closely tied . So it was basically everybody against Spain
M Alvarez replace spain with habsburg. the holy roman empire was never a part of spain, more like the other way around
@@atsava you must be joking? The hapsburg were married into the Spanish royal family on the strict conditions that all were to be born educated as Castilians. Do you think Isabel is a fool? Probably one of the best monarchs in the history of Europe.
@@malvarez8484 you're wrong. bourbons controlled spain and france at the same time when the revolution occurred. habsburg spain didn't exist anymore.
@@nurval1093 Omg the war of Spanish succession didn’t happen until 1700 read up a bit
@@malvarez8484 sorry, i thought you were talking about the french revolution, which occurred in 1776 LOL
Ah, the Peace of Westphalia, truly one of the most vile, brutal and destructive conflicts in human history. 6:53
Should Portugal be considered part of the Protestant side after 1640? They were fighting both sides (Spain and the Netherlands) so it makes sense they were included as a third party post 1640.
I believe they had a kind if agreement with the Dutch to stop hostilities for a while. So officialy the protestant side makes sense. Not that the Dutch (and Brazilians) cared for the agreement tho.
No Portugal was firmly catholic and had 0 intentions of helping the fake Christian’s
Mолодец, отлично вы ето видео зделали, вам нужно еще подписчиков!
Спасибо огромное!!
The HRE is such a mess
Summary:
Austria: Fights for a defenestrated man.
Denmark: Enters war, gets fucked, switches sides, gets fucked.
England: Fights for Protestants.
Spain: Fights for Catholics.
Poland: Fights Sweden.
Sweden: Fights Poland.
Transylvania: Enters war, fucks Austria, leaves war, proceeds to join the war 2 more times.
Ottomans: Fights for ?
Russians: Fights for ?
France: Fights for the opposite religion.
Winner: Nobody.
Map changes: None.
Casualties: 4,5mil-8mil.
France and Sweden benefitted substantially tho. France's main enemies were weakened and Sweden grew to later become a great power albeit temperorarily.
1:37 the only time you will see a part of Switzerland in a war (Canton of Grisons)
Napoleon: Am I a joke to you?
This is why I love European wars
Killed a lot of people and mostly innocent people think about that kid,but yeah war games such a fun
@@serhatyigit1321 what.. are you serious?? Are there wars that kill people?? You must be kidding
@@Alkhalidi723 Its simple look to russian ukrainian war
This video nicely shows how army movement looked back then. "Snail-Trails" to crucial targets. Either the target falls and the region with it or the snake disappears.
Can you explain though why armies march mostly not through belligerent countries territories, but through white (i suppose neutral) territory?
@@Mounstrum I think in that time, armies just went wherever they wanted to get to one place fast
Sweden: it is time to take Prague
Prague: NO
I like how France just eliminates the Jewish-Ottoman concoction "Protestants".
*I think more people died in making this map then the war*
LOL
Lol
@@-_-1665 your Name is so nice
@@kristastisch2505 thanks i am from roblox
So you are Catholic
France: Yes
And you hate Protestants
France: yes
Then fight along with the Catholic league
Farnce: ok
**fights the Catholic league**
Well you spoke english, ofc France woudnt understand properly
I must confess, I have read three lengthy books about the 30 Years War, and I'm still confused!
*Casually animates the beginning of the English Civil War*
Good work man
Саня лох!!
@@CherepashkaShusha плюсую!
Please choose a religion
>catholic
>Protestant
>French
French was both...
French all the way
damn.. 3:29
hawk... 3:36
at this moment a campagne in Europa Universalis comes to an end