Outdated Pet Food Advice ...Dr. Judy and Dr. Bessette
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- Pet Parents have to be careful about who they listen to on TH-cam. I trained veterinarians and their teams on Prescription Diet for 34 years. The comments these two veterinarians are making are inaccurate and outdated. I respond to their misinformation in this video and also Part 2.
Do you want to prevent a fire, or clean up the ashes? Why wait, I definitely professionally disagree. But I’ll take her blessings that I think the nutrients matter.
Yeah, pretty crazy!
Of course they matter I completely agree with you , the worst thing you can do ti food is expose it to intense heat for long periods of time which is exactly what happens during the extrusion process, not one of the 9 essential Amino Acids survive this Process, doesn't matter good they were or weren't in the pre cooked form, nothing designed to sit on a shelf fir months is enough to thrive, the animals survive due to the Vitamin premixes but they age fast abd are considered Senior as young as 7 , this Sad
@PetFoodPuzzleGuy what's crazy is giving Pet food Advice when you've only been exposed to ONE type of food and One Company ,
This is an insult to Pet Parents who have Spent Years Researching Pet food ,labels, and seen their dogs health do sn 180 degree turn around by learning how to investigate what exactly goes on behind the scene in this Industry.
@@samjj8942 I can’t imagine how many lectures I’ve been to and how many board certified nutritionists I’ve learned from….and how many discussions over studies from Purina and RC, and all the discoveries the MN Utility Center worked on…and on and in. But you believe I sat around all those years reading g marketing. Asterisks from one company because you don’t know anything about my training. Instead of trusting my 34 years of training vets and seeing the miraculous results almost every day, I should ditch that knowledge and experience and trust TH-cam celebrities who I know are wrong? Researching on social media is absurd. As the director of nutrition at Angel Memorial said back in the 90s when the internet was new, she spends more time debunking bad info and sharing new info. She said people don’t consider the source. Today it is so much worse. Watch my videos. As soon as you say the ingredient panel, you are lost. The industry you don’t trust, for good reason, has manipulated that into a tool to fool you, not educate you. Keep looking at something they can control so you don’t look at the actual nutrients being delivered. I appreciate your comments and understand them completely but I hope you’ll stick around and at least be somewhat open to another perspective
@@samjj8942 well, we all end up believing someone.we should try to listen to those with lots of training and especially those with experience.theres plenty of people with opinions that are based on no credentials or even knowledge of a subject.
i suppose if one really wanted they could just be exposed to one type of food and one company but for any engaged person like me I was exposed to research by a number of board certified vet nutritionists and attended countless lectures over three decades plu, taught by independent nutritionists who wouldn't even name products, just results of studies. and though some research was over my head, the summaries of peer reviewed studies were always helpful.And you might be surprised there was conflicting results at times, especially between RC and Hills, like utilizing high sodium in feline urinary diets and the risk of kidney disease. i always felt obligated to keep up on all that and share it with my veterinarians and their teams. so its not as simple as parroting marketing materials, (which made by the marketing dept were not always the most accurate!)
as far as researching behind the scenes, find me someone else who has been behind the scenes of the pet food industry for 34 years like me. that was the whole reason I started my channel....to expose the dishonest misinformation of the industry, which is only getting worse. i share my knowledge and experience and am no sponsored by anyone.
you mention folks seeing a 180 degree change in their pets feeding fresh or rw or whatever. you can read comments on my video's from people saying just the opposite. they used the fancy boutique diets and saw vast improvement when switching to Hills or Purina or perhaps a Prescription Diet. i trust their experience but that is all anecdotal and not clinically proven evidence. nothing was more rewarding for me as a dog lover than to see the results of dogs and cats lives being improved and even saved by the diets I trained vets on.that somehow gets dismissed in the conversation but that's why most vets trust and recommend Hills. They love research and they love results. But I agree with you that we should never get tunnel vision and let our bias blind us. That's the whole purpose of my videos, to give people another perspective from someone who isn't selling anything, just sharing what I know/
As always, wonderful, educational video ❤ I LOVE these videos you do, because it really shows you both sides and not just 1 side which is what people usually see. I’m so excited you chose the name I came up with “Nutrition Mission” , it just seemed to fit so perfect to what we are all seeking. Thank you so much for your time teaching us and comparing things Glenn, I know many of us really appreciate it.
I have a senior girl who has been having stomach issues, as someone who followed some of the fads, it’s because people made one feel so guilty if god forbid you feed anything other than xy or z. I battled her stomach issues for 6 months and it’s thanks to your videos that when my vet suggested a vet gastrointestinal food that I said yes, where a few months back I would have not wanted to do that. My girls stomach issues are GONE, she has more energy, visibly happier, and I’ve had zero issues since switching her to the vet food. Your videos don’t just help us learn, but in my case, you teachings saved my senior girls stomach and allowed her to have a happier life. I am so grateful to you.
That is great news about your fur baby's stomach issues!! I'm from Canada too, btw, so hello fellow Canadian =) I live in Saskatchewan.
@@TJ-kz1ul thank you so much 😊 and hello 👋
I need your channel…
I will admit I am easily sucked into one way that I forget my Brittany passed at 13 with heart disease.
He was allergic to beet pulp.
At the time he was a pup & had failure to thrive/hair loss.
We ended up feeding him
“GO” salmon.
He was on Lasix and Vetmedin 10mg qd for the last 2 yrs of his life.
Thank you for the clarification on these Hill's diets having no deficiency .
I'm glad the "others" weren't around back in my childhood and early adulthood when we fed our dogs plain Purina Dog Chow and most all live to be ripe old ages, unless they got cancer, again in their old ages. Same with our cats. Canned cat food. Everyone was full, healthy, and happy. Only when I was grown and my parent's kitty started having kidney issues, so their kitty was started per the advice of the Vet, on Hills Prescription Diet for kidney issues and she did marvelous on it, loved it, and it definitely helped her kidneys. Another long living pet, too!
Cant wait for part 2!!!
I feed cd for one cat and my vet told me if the other cat eats it will be fine. You have just confirmed. THANK YOU! You are the nutrisionist!
So your non cd cat did fine with the ckd diet?
Thank you for this video Glenn! A winner, once again! I really appreciate your passion! Yay! for Nutrition Mission!!! 🐶😻
I can't wait for you to drop part 2!
It's posted! Thanks!
Thank you for this information! New subscriber here, I’ve been enjoying your content. I thoroughly enjoyed the comparisons within one brand and different lines like Blue Buffalo. I would LOVE to hear your comparisons and thoughts on the healthiest option for Purina. They have so many lines, true instinct, high protein, one, pro plan…. Which is actually healthiest! Thank you 😊
Mamma Tom, that’s a good idea. Years ago I compared macronutrients like protein and fat but things change. Thanks and welcome to the Nutrition Mission.
Can't wait for part 2 Glenn! I look so forward to your videos. Because of you I switched my two cats from raw to Hills and science diet light canned food (they both have a little extra fluff lol so a scoop of canned in the morning and dinner then Hill's when we want little snacks during the day!! Thanks again for making my cats food decisions sooooooooo much easier!😃
Jenni, you're very kind. Just posted Part 2. I hope you enjoy it!
My cat has sensitive skin and i feed her Hills Sensitive Skin/Stomach and the Indoor Kibble. She gets Tiki Cat canned and kibble on Saturdays as a treat.
The "why do you need a prescription when there is no medication it" argument thing has always annoyed me. It is a disingenuous argument. My explanation has always been, that it is appropriate and positive gatekeeping of those diets as many of the prescription diets would not be appropriate for an animal that does not have the condition/disease it is intended to help. People misdiagnose their animals all the time. They decide their animal has some disease or condition that it does not based on something they were told by someone else or that they read online. Requiring an actual diagnosis by a veterinarian prevents that, or limits misdiagnosis greatly, so that those animals do not get a diet that could actually make the condition worse if misdiagnosed by a pet parent and fed an inappropriate diet.
Totally agree on feeding a specialty diet for kidney or liver disease as soon as it is found - not only at late stage disease
I disagree with veterinarians not knowing to restrict nutrients in certain conditions and Hills discovering that - most of that came from human medcinine and was well know way before Hills existed - I agree with the fact that Hills pioneered pet specialty nutrition though and have refined the diets through trials and time.
Jessie, that’s actually an additional excellent point! I’m stealing that! J have the smartest folks in the Nutrition Mission! Thanks!
@@JesseDavis I should do a video on Dr Morris Sr! He was the first vet to use a diet to manage disease. The guy was at Vet School I’d Colorado in his second year I believe, and the school called Cornell Vet School and said we can’t teach this kid anything else. We’re sending him to you. I know he was the first to also run the same types of blood tests and urinalysis testing as well. His practice in NJ was only the 2nd one devoted to small animals. His buddies at Cornell said he was crazy since there was no money in small animal medicine! lol!
@@JesseDavis Yeah, Soviet Union had prescription diets since 1921 (eg. M.I. Pevzner) and the reason why you needed a doctor's note was because the USSR couldn't scale mass-production of high-quality ingredients. The only food the Soviets was able to scale for consumer consumption was the Doktorskaya kolbasa and even that was too expensive to eat outside of special occasions.
The issue isn’t that a veterinarian should see a cat before feeding a prescription diet, it is the cost difference. Urinary Care c/d, has almost the same ingredients as SD Urinary Hairball Control. SD is actually lower in calcium and phosphorus. PD has whole grain corn, SD whole grain wheat. PD is $8.75 lb. SD $6.43 lb. A 36% difference.
Can you do a review on Farmina Vet life range? Its the only prescription diet available in India, would really help us
Could you review Raynes Nutrition? It is a prescription food company. It has some novel protein foods like rabbit and kangaroo but they all have pea protein or chickpeas or pinto beans which seem like odd choices for limited protein source diets. I also noted some with high calcium/phosphorus. I only looked at the dog food but there are cat foods too.
LOL! well based on what you've already said, looks like you've evaluated it pretty well already! Ill take a look.
You just mentioned the stress factor. Forgot to add that the cd I feed is cd multicare urinary stress. I am now a believer as it has been proven.
Thanks again.
Christine, it’s a shame it gets marketed as a urinary diet because it works on any behaviors due to stress. I’ve seen it work in less than 6 weeks for aggression, fear, etc. any behavior due to stress, not just the bladder.
I have a question. I was just thinking about it while watching this video. Hills does have optimal nutrition there is no doubt about it. The question is the percentages are so tiny between senior and adult that should be able to feed my 13 year old the adult diet as long as the nutrients are within range do you agree?? I want to feed them the urinary hairball formula but my 13 year old is predisposed to urinary and kidney issues so excessive nutrients is dangerous for her. What are your thoughts?
April, one issue I have with Hills is so many almost duplicate diets. It causes undue confusion. Hills, as you said, makes all their diets urinary and renal friendly. I wouldn't worry about feeding any of them to a senior cat. Hope that helps!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy thank you! I appreciate your help through this. This literally has made me mental. I am the most depressed I have ever been in my life and I have lost a brother and a my father but this is really making me nuts!
@@aprilcasserly2172 sorry for your losses. Life comes with rough times to be sure. Don’t let the pet food marketers make you crazy. There’s enough trouble in a day, as you know!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy ❤️
Thanks for another interesting and informative video! I have an unopened bag of a kidney diet kibble that I was going to donate to our SPCA, as the dog I had bought it for passed away at about 19 years of age, after a year and a half of treatment, exceeding the specialty vet's expectations. It is expensive, so I wanted it to be given to a dog that really needed it. But the vet tech whispered to me that I could feed it to my other dogs. But this one was the only kidney diet my oldie really seemed to like. I don't know what the difference was, but my healthy dogs are not picky eaters, so I think I will still donate it.
On another subject, another small dog, over 15 years ago, was full of calcium oxalate stones, and he had to have surgery. I don't remember being advised to buy a special kidney diet for him. Is that something newer?
KD is a bit high in calories for most dogs but that’s the only issue with it. It’s not new that calcium oxalates and kidney disease are common together but years ago UD would be the diet of choice for calcium stones and KD would be an alternative. The new CD Multicare was tested against the UD Diet for oxalates and did even better.
After trying out Fromm and Nutrisource, which I do like, I am leaning back towards getting Hills or Royal Canin for my next bag. It’s readily available and while I think “big pet food” does influence education and the industry at large, it’s probably not bad in the long run. I don’t buy Purina though since they are owned by Nestle and that corporation is horrible.
What do I feed my miniature poodle? Suggestions please
I trust Science Diet, Purina, Iams…
Research all options
Hello Glenn, have you covered a video on lentils in dog food?
Can’t say I know much about lentils to comment.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Got it, thanks Glenn.
I couldn't agree more with what you said. I despised how she said that big pet food companies "acknowledge" the importance of nutrients when these companies been using a nutrient led approach to formulate their diets for decades, but the newer companies strayed away from that. She should be directing her message to those companies, not the big ones.
Absolutely! if she ever looks at nutrients she might change her mind!
I feel like these people really undermine the intelligence of veterinarians. It’s honestly crazy that they imply those that have years of education have no knowledge. To me, that makes these two doctors less credible. I heard this same statement from an owner of a boutique pet food store that sells all these designer foods. I found that to be laughable. No nutritional background but implied he is more knowledgeable than a veterinarian. Down right dangerous!
Christine, I just don’t understand how they can ignore how well the diets work! How do they not know their colleagues live ZD and CD!
I heard from two vet who flat out said med school is so stressful and they are so overwhelmed and they really DO receive minimal education in nutrition. Maybe one semester in their entire education. The vast majority is focused on identifying and treating disease
@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I belong to many Facebook cat groups and am a,axed how many people have cats on prescription diets for urinary health or weight control and the cat still gets stones and wont loose weight.
I am a skeptic. That’s why I take forever to make a decision research the heck out of things. I hear what you say but think you would have more credibility if you were “riding the fence” more. I think your really biased as a former Hill’s rep who undoubtedly were paid bonuses on year end sales (I was a retail rep once). Employees of corporations undergo much continued education and training especially new info to present to clients. If we don’t believe it we can’t sell it. But I’m asking you to take a step back and detach and see the food chain and how our food (people food) is made, and no I can’t afford all organic and grass raised. You know pets get what’s not fit for humans from there. You know it has to be highly processed to make it safe. It is safe? By and large. Are prescription foods meticulously researched, yes. It’s just that overall I think you approach these videos from the perspective of a Hills salesman (I buy commercial cat food myself, but don’t think it’s the best option just like I don’t eat the best food…and I’m quite sick from multiple autoimmune diseases and other conditions of which food source contributed)
@@Wendy-ce5gd i think they forgot to tell you that in every single lecture that teaches how to manage disease, they talk about nutrition ( at least at my school) Maybe they just weren't listening. And for the record, "vet school" was the best 4 years of my life. As the song says it was: "a beautiful mess" and I am better for it. You get out what you put in.
What ARE there so many sick pets even needing to change their diets these days?????
They're living longer, and senior pets need a bit more TLC. :) Just like us. When we get older, we need to watch our sodium intake, insulin level and so on.
Back in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s before leash laws were implemented, the average life expectancy of a dog is 8 years. Nowadays in western countries, it's really only hunting dogs and working dogs which end up dying prematurely (Agria says hunting dogs only live 5-7 years). Short-lived dogs also are still the norm in places like Turkey where free-roaming pet dogs are still common.
Think in cats, outdoor cats only live like 3-5 years.
I do know cats as a species as a whole start having renal problem at about 7 years old.
Wendy, I do t have any stats but my hospitals varied alot on their clientele. As Zara’s said, if your clientelle is more geriatric you’re going to see more issues. There’s def more allergies in pets but there are in children as well so figure that.
It’s because of the crappy foods people are feeding their pets and kids.
@@patrussell59 What do you feed your dogs, out of interest?
@@patrussell59idk, I think our pets used to live pretty good lives back in the day, before kibble and then after, just because we fed them relatively little food, just like WE ate. Before Americans were obese, our pets were probably healthier too.
I'll continue to make.my own food at home. What's the fuss of making good food from quality protein, some greens,ect
Hey Stockman, the fuss is most pet parents barely have time to prepare food for their human family! the other issue is that even home cooked proponents claim about half of the meals they are preparing are unbalanced or deficient. that is the real concern.
Its only a concern when they're deficient. If you were to analyse the DIY diet today, more than likely not It may be deficient in vitamins B, D and E, magnesium, iron, zinc, manganese, potassium and iodine. The ratio of calcium to phosphorus may also be way off the mark. Get some knowledge on what foods contain which nutrient etc.
TIP: If you’re going to DIY, at least feed a home-prepared diet that meets the recommended allowances for dogs (per the NRC). If need be, get some education and seek guidance from a qualified raw fed vet nutritionist, they should know about fresh foods and can guide or formulate a meal plan for your individual.
I lost my respect for Dr Judy Morgan when she said that she was treating her dog's cancer with homeopathic medicine. It's such a dangerous message to be sending.
Careful what you write, it may be dangerous. You make it sound like the only thing she treats cancer with is homeopathic remedies, really?
What message are you trying to get across?.. Write what you mean, mean what you write or don't write anything
You cannot make me believe the celebrity vets don’t know this. They choose to ignore it or disagree with it because it eats into their profit of their raw foods, their recipes, books, etc
They are educated! They should know science. What you are saying makes perfect sense. They do not! Her followers are cult like and you won’t convince them. I’ve seen it and been in dialog with them in the breed groups and they absolutely have an answer for everything. Some answers very far fetched.
They should be able to answer their patients on why these diets are prescription! But then again it would cut into their profit!!! Makes me so darn angry when they slam the legacy brands when they have done all the research. She should also know how kibble is made. It’s not processed at high heat! It’s made at same or lower temperatures than the casseroles I bake! You were too nice.
"far fetched" Dogs. I see what you did there. LOL
Brennan McKenzie over at SkeptVet has been critiquing these individuals for years
Yes! Love reading his blogs
I’m curious why you would give dry kibble to an animal with kidney disease?!?!
I wouldn’t give dry. I would use canned for the additional moisture. But it’s the correct protein load and mineral restriction that’s the most important. A canned food with excessive minerals would be just as harmful. Most videos I watch they talked moisture and ignore minerals and protein
In Europe, it's very common to pre-soak kibbles in water before giving to dogs. You will find videos from mushing kennels and hunting kennels in English on the importance of hydrating your dogs with pre-soaked kibbles
@@ZaryaTheLaika it was believed it would also help prevent bloat to pre soak the dry food. Never was confirmed but popular among sporting dog breeders.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Yes, I don't know why American pet parents think feeding dry causes kidney problems when most of the pet parents in Europe pre-soak
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Like... most of the dry food products sold in Europe say to add water to kibbles. Even Royal Canin has a tutorial video! Which is omitted by social media influencers in the US
I had a cat on Royal Canin Urinary SO once and the vet said it was fine if her brother ate it too. He didn’t need to eat it, but it actually offered me some peace of mind because male cats are more prone to blockages.
Kitcatmom, I just don’t like SO for older cats. The high sodium used in the diet could be very dangerous if there’s any j detected kidney issues. Hills does not use high sodium. I’d be running an SDMI test every six months if using SO.
Sadly, that kitty passed several years ago (oral cancer), so her brother is no longer on that…but she was 10 when that was prescribed to her 😬. I’m pretty sold on Hill’s being the best nowadays, so I will go the Hill’s route if that ever happens with another cat. Her brother gets Hill’s sensitive stomach and skin now. He’s 17 and 3 months and always has great blood work. I get a little nervous having him on a food that isn’t on the SO index (S+OX Shield for Hill’s), but Hill’s has good levels for calcium, phosphorus, and magnesium, so that makes me feel good at least. I’ve also read DL-methionine is important for not developing stones or crystals?
@@Kitcatmom wow! You know your stuff!
Aw, thank you (blushing) ☺️. Pet nutrition is important to me ❤️ I was starting to feel confused by all the marketing recently. When I discovered this channel, it was reassuring for me that I am feeding my cat well and I find the info interesting in general!
99% of pet owners who are feeding Hill’s or Purina corn kibble to their pets are not going to watch Dr. Judy Morgan. Most people who watch Dr. Morgan have already decided to switch to homemade for whatever reason. They are looking for validation for their decision. If Panda had not gotten sick, I would probably still be feeding my cats Rachael Ray wet and dry food. The main reason was we watched her Food Network show, “30 Minute Meals.” How's that for logic? LOL
well definitely agree we all love validation for our decisions about everything, but I have heard from a few folks who were still open minded. i feel TH-cam just needs both perspectives. People make their own choices. scary how we have to choose who to believe, but isnt that true with everything?
Another great blog to read sometime in your “free time” is called Hello Danes” I believe she’s a veterinarian with a lot of nutrition knowledge. Love her articles. Especially the three part one debunking the pet fooled documentary. It’s called “ive watched pet fooled so you don’t have to”
She is excellent and provides her research
She also, like you, did one on the purina panic
Thanks! I will def check it out!
27:04 - Royal Canin has the same origin story as Hill's. Jean Cathary was treating different disorders with his diets in the 1960s, Dr. Cathary sold the business to a livestock feed company in 1970s-- similar to Purina. Then financial investors at Paribas Bank acquired RC in 1990.
If Ed was here, he probably makes a joke about Hill's being the toothpaste company fighting cavities while RC is the candy company causing cavities
@@ZaryaTheLaika No. Hill's is the corn company. I'm surprised they haven't signed Caitlin Clark to be a spokesperson. LOL In the US, RC uses carrageenan in all of their wet foods. It has been banned in the EU as a carcinogen. Studies have shown carrageenan to be genotoxic. "A genotoxin is a chemical or agent that can cause DNA or chromosomal damage." National Institutes of Health.
@@ZaryaTheLaika lol! Don’t encourage him!
@@edschulhof6303 Well, Morris Animal Foundation had Betty White
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy speaking of Royal Canin getting its start in cooking dog porridge, have I sent you dog food recipes from 1870s -1950s?
Are you a Certified Vet Nutritionist or a Canine Nutritionist?
Absolutely not! Those certificates are simply different non credentialed folks teaching things and handing out certificates. Only board certified vet nutritionists have the formal education with valid credentials. I did a video on that very topic.
Are you a DVM?
Hey Rob! No, not a vet. I was trained by top board certified nutritions who formulated the prescription diets and trained vets and their teams. I have no silly pet nutritionist certifications. I loved the job and became an expert on Purina and RC diets because I felt I needed to know which ones were the best. My vets appreciated that. Once retired, discovering the horrible misinformation about pet food and nutrition I felt I had to speak up. So with all my experience and no responsibilities to any company, I feel I can help pet parents.
Trained by the people who's food they want you to sell?! Doesn't seem to be neutral or unbias
@@clairegriffiths9284 trained by the board certified nutritionists, not the sales dept. in fact, I always warned my vets to never simply buy into marketing materials. They sometimes exaggerate the facts. But the studies they use, or the ones they are just jnvolved, the nutritionists live in a different world than sales. They don’t just get a stamp of approval from their colleagues. In fact, peer reviewed studies are scrutinized. Making some biased claim would quickly be discounted.
Science Hill K/D with Chicken
Ive read (no special them/they website) that my 7lb chihuahua gets 1 gram of protein per each pound of weight.
The 13 oz can states it has 15.7% protein, and then states that Im to feed a little more than 1/2 a can (states: 5lb dog gets 1/2 can)
She'll be getting more protein than what is recommended for a healthy dog?
So we're not lessening her protein.
You said to me on another comment feed; "Im sorry that its confusing for you"
Now you know why?
You’re looking at min percentages vs grams. You need to stop trying to be the researcher and trust the nutritionists. You’re not dealing with some new disease or new discovery. Perhaps besides urinary issues were talking about the most common disease affecting dogs and cats. You have to decide who to trust. Again, it’s early in the disease. If blood values worsen on KD I would have my vet call Hills with all the numbers and see what they say. But I would try the safest most proven way first. Then go from there.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy
I have a Hills image of the K/D Chicken Wet Dog food and it shows: 20 grams min of crude protein and the min of fat is 45 grams, for an adult dog that is a 7lb toy chihuahua, they should only get 5.5% daily.
Per vet: When a pet eats a high-fat meal, the pancreas can become inflamed and begin to leak digestive enzymes, a process akin to the organ digesting itself.
Can you explain why there is so much fat content in the Hills K/D wet diet?
The 20 grams of protein and the 45 grams of fat is too much for my dog and her size/weight.
Again, I only want to do what's best for Trixie and not cause other health issues.
@PetFoodPuzzleGuy
Also,
And this is the email that I received from Hills when I question the protein content, versus my dog body weight and original protein needed for a healthy dog, and this was their reply:
The Guaranteed Analysis displayed on the package is the minimum or maximum levels of any given nutrient. Min. 24% protein - this means the food has at least 24% protein, but could have 25%, 30%, or 50% - you really have no idea what level is in the food.
@@kountryedge I’m assuming you’re not in the US but I hope Hills has a phone number for vets to call with specific cases like Tracie. Kd and all renal diets are higher in fat for energy to help preserve the body from using protein for energy, thus increasing the muscle wasting. Sorry I’m not familiar with cabs showing grams. Your vet should also have a Hills book that shows the actual nutrients in a dry matter basis. That’s what they should be looking at. Hope that helps!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy
I'm in the United States. The can provide the % and gram next to it. The dry bag only provides the percentage with Protein 18.5% and Fat 11%
Dr Judy is nuts. Sorry. How is she a practicing vet?