Temporary fix, Drainfield froze up, Gray water backing up in the house.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Howdy folks, well just another day at the ranch. We've lived here for over 13 years and never had a problem with our drainfield freezing up. Problem is it's been 35 to 40 below zero. And has not been above freezing for about two weeks, we've got 2 feet of snow and 9 foot drifts. Well long and short of it is the Drainfield off our septic tank froze up! This is a temporary fix I hope it helps you, if you ever have this problem. Folks if this helps please hit that thumbs up button subscribe to the channel insurance on social media. Thanks for watching and happy trails~
The Lord guide and keep you.
Luke
That's the prairie resourcefulness I like to see. It all goes in the ground one way or another.😉
+Myles Mathern
Thanks Myles, thanks for watching.
Luke
I pray the Lord Jesus will bless you for posting this to try to help others.
+COMB0RICO
Thank you old friend, still using that slingshot?
Luke
Slinging tennis balls recently for the dog.
Great ingenuity!👍🏻
+aprilbug29
Well I guess a guys got to do, what it guys got to do. ( : thanks for watching, i'm in your neck of the woods now days you know.
Luke
I've been in septic hell before.several times.Easter morning my daughter yelling that the downstairs tub was full of poo water.thankfully I had to go to work and the septic guy pumped it out and I rented a minni excavator and fixed it for good. saved thousands.if I lived near you I would have come right over and tackled the job.I know the stress. your friend marc from west falls ny
+Suburban Plantation
Hello Marc, you know the feeling! : ) The problem is of course the ground is froze up solid. So digging with a backhoe is very difficult.
tried on top of the ground with a Diesel heater, that didn't work, tried shipping the ice out. That didn't work. Then a brainstorm... it's been working good for about a week now. Good to hear from you, you been with us pretty much from the beginning. Sure appreciate you taking the time to leave comments it greatly encourages us.
Happy trails old friend, may God Guide and keep you.
Luke
Gotta do whatcha gotta do at times on the farm God bless hope all is well
+jcy1117
All is well, and God is good. Sure appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. It is greatly encouraging to my family and I.
Happy trails
Luke
I like it.............. We think much alike.
If the codes written by the health dept would allow the septic tank and drain field to be put below the frost line, you and the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with this. You're in Bismarck now so you can help do something about those knuckleheads at the health dept.
I have a biomat clogged field but it’s winter now. To do the same I siphoned the tank to a bucket set to the level I want. Hose is heated so not to freeze and it is more of. Trickle. Thus the effluent can soak into the overflow pit
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You are just a brilliant dude, and love the Romans verse. Sadly I wish i knew where my septic tank was.
It took me a while to find mine as well. Your drain in your home where your sewer goes out of your house is a good place to start. After that it will be in that general direction. If you’re good at witching that would work. If not I would suggest using a probe and just start probing the ground.
Another idea for you, hire someone to empty your septic tank for you. They’re usually pretty quick and efficient at finding them.
Good luck friend
Luke
Great job Larry😊👍🙏
how you going to keep that vertical pipe from freezing
Nice fix 👍. Been there done that before
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Thank you VERY MUCH :)
Don’t forget to cuddle with the pets tonite. In all seriousness I’ve had/ got similar issues too with mine. Like I saw someone else say - efen codes or install isn’t below the frost line. Simply juicy when you can’t take a dump in ur new million $ chalet. Back to the outhouse or five gallon bucket.
awesome
Set that sump pump as far away from the inlet pipe as you can. You don't want it to suck up paper and poo that hasn't yet settled to the bottom. Install that temp pvc pipe closer to the ground so your neighbors can't see your pooey "grey" water being pumped right at their property. Oh, and don't produce any youtube videos of yourself breaking the law. Yeah, that one is important. Sheesh!
It’s technically not against the law in North Dakota, only permanent it is against the law.
No neighbors to worry about it here, otherwise I would agree with you.
You don't want the ground to "unthaw". You want it to thaw.
you mite want to drill a small hole in the pipe just above the pump so wat will not stand in you rizer if you pump has a cheak valve in it but that is a good idea
That is a very good idea and I have not yet done it. I will though, and thank you for the heads up.
Schedule 80 PVC is the heaviest you can use, but 40 would work okay.
Lol at the cat and dog going to the poo water fountain to check it out…I can imagine having to chase all my animals away from the water 💩
Concept
Waste water and waste if underground is naturally warmer than freezing, so why did it freeze? A few reasons, exposure to freezing temps ,an open to aboveground temps (most likely) . Note in this instance make sure no open to atmosphere happens.
Next, Ground is frozen deeply, the resolve there is when installing the tank, plumbing and all of the field is well below the normal freezing depth of the ground.
This is a terrible situation & doing the install is a critical way to be way ahead of all the cost and added trouble by frozen sewer pipes.
My situation came from having to drain my pool, I went in back yard found a sewer clean out removed the cap and drained my pool, but life went on and forgot to reinstall the cap. OH DID I PAY DEARLY FOR THAT!
Late that winter I wanted to improve my bathroom, as i stripped the floor out near my bathtub I saw all the cast iron waste pipes under my house were cracked and broken ozzing the waste from toilet flushes since 3 months back.Needless to say I had an unplanned unessary job to do .
break out 40 ft of cast iron pipe
clean all that waste out of my crawl space, Note best way was with lime, it helped so greatly at decomposing the waste.
I replaced all the cast iron with pvc pipe.
Major operation.
So be carfuly
It's really simple but oh so hard if you mis out on dumb details.
God bless ya's
+Mr. Vile
You are so very right. That’s exactly what happened to our drainfield. It’s not uncommon for it to be 40 below zero here in North Dakota. But that’s what good stories are made out of. Thanks for sharing. Have you subscribed? If you did let me know. Appreciate the input.
Happy trails
Luke
Yup
Just Did!
That white stuff and those weird numbers and words, "35 below zero" are why I live in South Alabama. LOL I can't put on enough clothes.. Seriously, the local news will WARN US ABOUT THE HARD FREEZE when it is supposed to get down in the TWENTIES. Cool video. Improvise, adapt, overcome...
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Why a sump pump in particular, and not a sewage pump, or trash pump, or can another pump be used instead?
been there too twice actually caught it in time the second round no fun thats for sure too many health codes that dont make sense if you ask me
Here is a tip for cold weather. Put a quarter inch hole in the pvc pipe about a foot above the pump. This will allow the vertical portion of the pipe to DRAIN and keep from freezing.
+badlandskid
That's a good idea, unless the pump would plug it runs out pretty quickly.
Thaw unthaw, you're right hate to say it but you are. 😬😳🙄
Luke
Back to the Basics 101 The vertical part is the only part that is susceptible to freezing, as long as the horizontal part is slightly inclined to drain.
The issue happens in colder weather when the pump shuts off. Sump pumps can hold water in the vertical portion of the pipe, which can freeze and cause all sorts of nefarious mayhem. (Burning out the pump, cracking the pipe, etc...)
The drain back hole is just a bit of added assurance that it won't freeze and have your whole operation circling the drain. I would hate to see you in deep doo doo with the brains of your outfit.
in most apps youre required to do that to prevent the pump from airlocking
I don't agree. In the case of an ejector pump in a basement (heated space) you would use a check back valve and no hole in the pipe. But in that instance there isn't a danger of freezing in the pipe.
badlandskid what's a check back valve?
Where do you live? We have never had any problems with our system and we had gray water back up into the house. The septic company came and our tank was full as so was the seepage pit. They told us the septic system failed. We live outside of Boston and we have had subzero temps for days. (They said it's the longest stretch in 100 years) Everyone said that the septic couldn't freeze.
+Audra Sprague
We live in North Dakota, the advantages of living outside of town definitely away the advantage of living in town. But it there is a lot of extra work involved. Lol
Happy trails friend
Luke
septic can and will freeze if no snow cover and is -30 -50 for weeks, the drain field is the first to freeze the tank can freeze as well if it is nor working right, meaning it is not got enough bacteria in the tank, I used baking yeast once every 3 months, it works better then any tank crap you can buy, washing chicken eggs is the best, my tank is so hot the 7 feet of snow we get melts all around the tank, that all started over 35 years ago when I got laying hens, never have I had my tank pump since over 30 years ago, the last time the truck was here as my wife at the time insisted it needed pumping, the driver told us your wasting your money having it pumped s there was nothing in the tank but water, everything's been eaten up fast, so it has never been pumped since
Are those two lads you sons or farm hands? Great video as always.
+Country Farmer32
One is my son who is not in the film much, The other is my sons friend. Who comes over quite often. Glad you liked the video. sure appreciate you watching & your input and encouragement.
Happy trails friend
Luke
If you live on a farm and have lots of ground to disperse the BLACK WATER onto, OK once. Then you will have learned and get the system fixed. BTW: Gray water never comes in contact with sewage to remain gray water. Gray water comes from washing and dishwasher machines and sinks. Some jurisdictions don't allow washing machines as gray water. Looks like going cheap got you in this mess in the first place.
Nothing cheap about a $6000 septic system, you’re right about the gray water by the way. When you’re front of a camera your brain kind of goes to jelly sometimes. That year a lot of people septic dream fields froze solid. Mine was on a hill, and the hill froze over very weird which happens from time to time it is rare in North Dakota for it to happen, but when it does it affects hundreds and thousands of people that live in the country.
Happy trails
@@BacktotheBasics101 Hello 101, we live in Northern Ontario and spent $30,000 on ours (Waterloo Bio Filter system) because of near bedrock. Our frost depth is about 5 feet and most of the cost was for sand and gravel to ensure that the system would not freeze which it doesn't but the tanks and pump chambers could so we run heating cables which is tough because we are 100% off grid. What I'm saying: anything can be solved and sometimes it takes money and honestly, I would have liked to spend it on something else but chose to invest it to keep my environment save.
Cheers back, and better luck
Darren, Centreview Island
Oh I see the problem the septic system is bigger than the house... wa wa waaaa
Questions how does it not suck up toilet paper and other surprises?
Yeah I'm sure when your Neighbors calls for the smell and the county comes out that you're gonna get fine
Chris Horsley for real though. That has to stink to high heaven. I currently live with my parents and we are having issues with what i suspect is an effluent line damaged by tree roots. The line is within 10 ft of a cluster of 20 to 30 ft tall trees, and we get a soggy spot out close to our property border. My father’s initial response was to do nothing and hopefully nobody would complain. But, we live in a residential area, and are surrounded on all sides, so we did get a complaint. His response was to essentially lie and say he would fix the problem just so the town would go away, and they didn’t take a real hard look at anything. Welp, I wonder what happens the second time around...
This was a temporary solution, when the tank gets drained by professionals, they just dump it on my pasture. I had one company paying me to dump on one of my passengers which needed fertilizer. The state was completely OK with that. There was no smell.
Back to the Basics 101 who are your passengers?
Does the pump let the water in the standpipe drain out? I don't know the proper terminology I might be asking the question wrong, does the pump keep the prime? So if it does do you have to worry about the water freezing in the standpipe?
+acet7
No, the water all comes out. (The pump allows the fluid to come through) Other wise you are absolutely right it would freeze in the pipe. Also, the pipe that is diagonal, I set it at a good slope, so it all drains. Thanks for watching it's always good to hear from you. Happy trails.
Luke
Sump pumps don't come with a "back flow" valve as standard equipment. They are a separate purchase. So. yes the water will drain back into the septic tank.
3:36 "...until the ground unthaws..."
Freeze = liquid to solid
Thaw = solid to liquid (melt)
Unthaw = ?
Try to understand what I meant, not what I said necessarily.😉
if you pump it out of the tank on the ground that is a no no
The thing is,is when I have the tank pumped, the professionals many different companies and are licensed by the state dump it on my pasture for me as fertilizer. The century code says that you can dump it on your pasture. I had one company dump on a field for two years straight they would bring load after load day after day.
Remember this was temporary not a permanent thing. There’s a lot of misconceptions, this is not a hazardous material. It is when you’re in urine just like any other animal.
Happy trails
Luke
Your wife looked very unloving and cold ...I'm sure she isn't ...my wife jumps up and down if I do the dishes 😊👍🙏
+versatec1
Was a busy day, this winner everything is kind of coming apart on us. Plan on doing a video just on that alone. Kind of 😩 stressed. Normally my wife just like yours,, sometimes I think she treat me like one of the children.😂
Thanks for watching, have you subscribed?
Happy trails
Luke
+Back to the Basics 101 Hi Larry...yes I've been subscribed for quite awhile now 😊👍🙏 God bless
Drain field should have been deeper
It is actually an exposed drainfield, been said it is 14 feet deep for most all of it except for where it is exposed Joseph, the ground pushed up around the exposed pipe making it have a belly in the very end of the pipe. You are correct though.
Happy trails
Luke
Back to the Basics 101 well I hope it all works out for you guys that's a messy situation you guys all have a Merry Christmas ...... I'm kind of Lucky down here in Missouri doesn't freeze too deep into the ground where I'm at right now though surface temperature is 42 degrees Fahrenheit it's not even cold for Christmas day
Did you realize that nothing inside your septic tank is "grey" water???? You had better look up your state's definition...
I am a state legislator, I am quite familiar with the law. This was a temporary solution. In our state you can dump sewage that was pumped out of your tank directly on pastures or fields. Every day practice.
But obviously I was having septic tank problems that’s why I fixed it the way I did. Not a permanent fix.
polish solution
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Great job Larry😊👍🙏
Who is Larry?
+Back to the Basics 101
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