I purchased 6 years ago and has been a definite money saver. Today 2/12/2023 I measured again after three years since last pump and it is easily another three years till I need to look and measure again. Thus I saved $600 dollars for a non-pump-out year. Thank you Staurt! Regards. Jeff
Sometimes that’s when you really realize what’s important. Provided you’re not a mean drunk that is. When I get drunk, which is not often, I feel love and appreciation so much more, no anger or jealousy which is great. I’ll never understand mean drunks and I’m glad that no one in my family is that way. Count my blessings.
I pump my septic tank every 4 years. easy to remember if you do it in November at election time when all the campaigning is going on (a bunch of crap) what do you think of this idea?
This is pretty good idea. However, it is possible your tank needs to be pumped sooner that every four years OR you can go longer, perhaps every six years. The core sampler is the best way to check and see when it actually needs to be pumped.
The community makes us get ours checked every 3 years in the Summer. It's a fine if we don't get it pumped or a certificate that the sludge layer is less than 33% (I think there's only like a 30 day grace period too). Ours is always at about the right time to get pumped every 3 years too, though I suspect we could go 4.
yard farmer - this is a perfect way to remember to pump - especially because of the similarities between politicians and septic tanks both being full of shit!!
I own a vacation home in a small shoreline town in Connecticut . It’s used 6 months out of the year. The town requires that I pump my septic system every 5 years if it needs pumping or not ! And they require proof of pumping by the septic company that does the job !
It certainly is . And they keep track of it !!! I tried ignoring it and the town kept sending me reminders saying that I was violating a town ordinance !!!
@@donaldperrotta8514 If they are going to require your tank be pumped, it should only be when the tank needs it. I know of a county here in Indiana that requires tanks be pumped as needed but they CHECK THE TANK to be sure it needs to be pumped.
That makes perfect sense … but not in this small shoreline town that’s been under control by swamp Yankees for over 100 years ! I’m regarded as “seasonal” resident … although I pay taxes year round ! and to add insult to injury .. I don’t have a dishwasher or washing machine ! only 1 full bathroom and 2 bedrooms … can’t fight city hall !!!!
Riddex is crap you might as well be put in oatmeal down your your septic tank you shouldn't have a wash machine pouring chlorine bleach and ear your septic tank and drainfield that's the cause of them failing I seen him last 60 years ice put septic tanks in in the 70s and the 80s I was one of the first ones to get certified and I got all these fancy tools now I can't believe what it cost to put in a drain system
In SoCal, our tanks have a “baffle wall” separating the “solid” from the “liquid” sides, with a crossover tube connecting them which, for the most part, keeps suspended solids from entering the liquid side and hence the leech field. And most our tanks are plastic, unless they are to be driven over.
Two compartment tanks work just like two tank in series. Each tank, or compartment, separates out the solids, scum and effluent into the three layers. The second compartment, or second tank, just recieves the effluent from the first tank (or first compartment). The retention time in that second tank or compartment allows that effluent to further separate out suspended particles and nutrients, effectively lowering the strength of the wastewater even more so, which is beneficial to your septic system.
Great video on septic tank pumping and the best time to do so. I think I will direct all of out current septic service customers to watch your video as it's very educational and informative. Thanks a ton..Dan Sexton III :-)
1:33 - its like those diagrams you see on social media, which box will fill up first and some are blocked off and others are not. But these are all blocked off.
Just a note...Amazon has a no return policy on core samplers...no matter how well you rinse it off. LOL To date, tank pumping is still a lot less than city sewer charges in my town. Nice video.
Each side will need to be pumped when the sludge build up to the 25-33% level. The side where the inlet is will accumulate sludge much quicker than the second compartment. You should check each side with the core sampler to see what needs to be pumped. That said, if the pumper is there anyway, they should probably go ahead and pump both sides, even if just the one really needs it.
@@davidhouston5783 Yes, both sides will be pumped but the second compartment won't need to be pumped nearly as often as the first compartment. But yes, with one tank, you would have both compartments pumped. If you had three large tanks in series you would want to only pump the tanks that need it (according to my video). This would save you money.
I have had my septic tank pumped but they have only opened one side. Do all tanks have two sides that are supposed to be pumped? I am thinking to have my septic pumped this summer it has been over three years. Any suggestions for it too flow better besides the monthly bacteria maintenance. Thanks
I’m not finding this info to be accurate based on other sources. The ones I found state the measurement should be based on the outlet side of the tank, not both sides.
bajuarek, The pumper does not need to leave sludge or scum to seed the tank. This will happen on it's own. In the future, make sure he pumps it all out.
That's a good idea. Perhaps I can get that done once things warm up a bit. I simply place the open end over the septic tank opening and let hose water flow through the tube from the other end. I turn the tube as water flows through it.
Vane Vane They won’t have it. I see this more for the home owner to gauge how often it really needs to be done so as to avoid unnecessary expense and problems.
thank you great video. In 2001 our house in NJ seller had to replace 1000 gal septic & leach field. We always pump it out ever 2 years always had a thick slum layer with driver said it was ok. I never knew they made a core sampler.
Well You dont know the size of my tank and that we have 14 children 😉 The tank was put in 60 years ago and I am on my third wife. Lots of children and dozens of grandchildren.
Whenever you pay to have your septic tank pumped, you can write that off on your taxes. And also if you have to septic tank and leach field repair or replacement, you can get government assistance, meaning that they will help foot the money cost on the repair and replacement. Just contact your local "County Extension Office" I hope that this little information helps someone or somebody. :-)
Hola Stuart. I Enjoyed your guidance & will order the Core sampler via the link you provided someone below. 3 questions- A- can I inset a garden hose into intake pipe from house to tank (at the tank side) & turn it on to clear blockage in drain pipe near the end of the drain run? My tank and drain pipes are vintage 1976: No T-Shape end of drain run on the incoming drain pipe into the tank. I recall seeing a had a cast iron plate detached and several inches from the cast iron pipe drain intake. Thus there may be room to insert a hose. Your advise? The kitchen sink an a shower tend to have water back up. The tank was drained clean ( so they said) a year ago. B- the lid on the tank is about 18-20" deep and covered with clay dirt that is very hard to dig out. What can I replace the clay soil that I remove with to alleviate the too difficult dig again? Top Soil? Your advise? C. Can I pour Rid X powder directly into the tank ? Thank you
Hello Jose, Using water from your hose is not going to be a good way to clear blockage in the gravity sewer. If you have a blockage, you should contact a professional clean-out service who can run a "router" though the pipe. Contact you local septic tank precaster and have them provide a riser and new lid to put on your existing tank. Before you put a new riser on an old tank, I'd suggest having a professional check out our tank to be sure it is structurally sound enough to continue using.
@@georgemartinez8434 did you get up on the wrong side of the bed or what? If you google cleat it shows an image of this exact part, and nowhere does it mention a pants crease, which is called a crease. Lighten up.
General recommendations may not work for your family. You may need your tank pumped more often (or less often). If you only need your tank pumped every 6 years, you are wasting money having it pumped more often.
Stuart Meade I’ve run into numerous customers that get it done every year no matter what, I guess some people get peace of mind by doing it that often. On the other end of the spectrum I’ve had people brag that they’ve never had it pumped (usually 10 years right up to 25-30 years) then wonder why all of a sudden they’re system starts backing up every time the tank fills back up. It truly amazes me that some folks willingly destroy one of, if not THE most expensive part of your home/property all because they think maintenance is a waste of money or it’s too expensive. Well you reap what you sow I guess.......
In Finland the regulations require to pump the septic 1-2 times a year depending from the use. It costs somewhat 100-200€ per time depending from the transport distances.
That is very often. Pumping your tank before it needs it is not helpful. That's because tanks often take a few weeks or month to "settle-in", separating into the various layers. During this period, the effuent leaving the tank (from the effluent layer) layer is not as clean as it will be after the settle-in period is complete. Therefor pumping before your tank needs it, perhaps yearly, means your tank is spending more time in this settling-in period, sending higher strength water to your absorption field. Make sense?
Great video. We're a family of 5 and have a 500 gallon traditional septic tank. I've taken the washing machine off of it to reduce the load. We have a 50 year old house and system and it's now starting to have issues with draining. Especially when it rains. It seems like we're pumping every spring. I'm wondering if there bio mat build up in the leach field. Is there anything you can recommend to help reduce this? Thank you
So just to be clear you pump out the entire tank and leave NO sludge layer? If this correct what would you use to promote new bacteria and enzyme growth?
The anaerobic bacteria necessary to aid in settling with automatically propagate. No need to leave any sludge behind or to add bacteria or enzymes. That said, the pumper, due to the limitations of the equipment he uses (a large diameter suction hose), will never be able to pump every tiny bit from the tank.
Thank you I really needed to be educated about septic tank systems. I have been looking for properties that have land, but they also come with well water and septic tank systems.I have been afraid to even consider purchasing any property that had one or both. Do you have a list of items that should be covered in a inspection? And, how much does it generally cost to have a septic tank pumped? Great video!
First, remember that septic systems have a life span. Some last 15-20 years and some last much longer (or shorter). If you're looking to buy a house with a septic system find out everything you can about when it was installed and how often the tank has been pumped. Also ask about how many people have lived in the house. Two older people will be MUCH easier on a septic system than a family of four. Often old systems will function for the older folks but will quickly go into failure once the family moves in. The number one thing to check during an inspection is evidence of high water in the tank. If the water level in the tank has been above the outlet, that is evidence that the system was backed up in the past (water was moving into the tank faster than the absorption field could take water). This is, at the very least, evidence the system is in early stages of failure, so beware! You can also as the local health department if they have records of the systems installation. Also be aware that a failed septic system that is not used for a long time due to a house sitting empty (e.g. forclosure), will work for some period of time before it goes again into failure. That might be one year or one month. It would also be a good idea to ask people in the area what they paid to recently have a new system installed. Don't get burned by having wishful thinking about the septic system or well.
Thank you for your response, their are 3 single family houses on the property. They all have electricity from the city, but it has it's own well and septic tank system. One of the houses (the largest house) has been vacant for a few years. The owner said it had two septic tanks, but now that septic tanks have two compartments, so I need to make sure to ask if it is two tanks or two compartments. I am in the process of getting a loan and just wanted to see the property. I was able to talk to the owner and we did not really go into the specifics of the property, because I am not ready to negotiate. The main house was boarded, for security. The other two houses are occupied. I would look at that as being a good thing, but I once saw a property I wanted to rehab that had a tenant. I thought the property just needed to be fixed, but after paying $400 for an engineer to look at it I found that it had to be torn down. So, I have learned to do my home work. Your videos are very educational and gives people a tool to know what to look for and how to not being taking advantage of by businesses in the industry. Thank you.
Two systems for one house is a red flag. At the very least it means the systems are very old. These tanks are bound to be very small and possibly corroded. Ask when the tanks were pumped last and wait for the blank stare. Budget for a new septic system. I know you don't want to hear that but its reality.
Funny... it actually has three houses on it. The original that was built in 1940 and I don't know when the other two were added. I have 6 children and I would like to have the two smaller for my four adult children. So, I was wondering if each house should have it's own tank. I thought maybe having two was a good thing. I am not planning to spend all my rehab budget on a septic system. I will have an inspection and if it doesn't look promising then I will have to move on. But you advise has been invaluable.
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This guy does not no what he is talking about.You should pump your tank every year and a half to 2 years.If you have a garbage desposil ever year.I pump septic daily.We dont use these tubs to check the tanks.
I have about 4'' of scum (crust) in my tank which is almost flush with inlet.We are only two adults what causes the scum to accumulate was pumped out 3 years ago.I also have a water softner .Appreciate your opinionPhil
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We are a family of 7. We do not flush toilet paper or wipes. We use bleach about a 2 cups a month for white clothes. We have used green gobbler septic packs monthly for the past 4 years. We have also have an insinkerator garbage disposal that we use green gobbler garbage disposal enzyme liquid. We had our septic company out last month and he said there was less than an inch of sludge after 5 years (1500 gallon tank). He said we can go another 4-5 years based on our practices. The key is maintenance, not flushing paper and adding enzymes or yeast regularly to digest waste and reduce methane gases and the enzymes will also eat waste in the drain field ports
I was 8. When my grandfather had a septic put in, he had 4 1000 gallon tanks made & installed, i was 35 last i heard the system still hasn't been pumped..
It's possible that some of those tanks, the ones further downstream, still don't need to be pumped. The first one or two most certainly do, even under a very light load.
what if my septic tank does not look like the one in your drawing? I dug up the 2 covered holes but when I opened them the inlet side was level with the cover and had about 2 inches of sludge at the top. The outlet side also had liquids level with the top lid but no sludge, just murky water. I have had no symptoms from inside the house that the septic needed to be pumped but it is going on five years and I thought I was pushing it by waiting so long. by the way, it’s just me and my 15-year-old daughter living in a 1400 square-foot house if that info helps. thank you
Caroline, you may have a two compartment tank where the sludge is first accumulating in the first compartment. You may be able to go five years or more between pumping, but the only way to tell for sure is to core sample your tank. Best wishes.
Great information. I just had my fathers septic tank pumped. I wasn’t sure how long ago it was done. He passed away about a year ago and my family will be taking over the house. Here is a question for you. He had a sump pump discharging into the main line to the septic tank. Upon talking with the service that pumped it, he said to move the sumps discharge someplace else. Well, it took me about 3 weeks but I got it done. ( had to work) Unfortunately if my math serves me right, on average it was dumping 2 to 3 times an hour of about 10 gallons. That’s a ton of water per day. Obviously the tank is most likely full of this water. Is there anything I should do? We won’t be living there for at least 5 months so water usage will be limited to the times we are there remodeling. Any advice is welcome.
That is a common issue, clear water from the sump pit dumping lots of foundation water to the septic system. This extra water can really tax your system. The discharge can also keep the tank stirred up and allow solids and sludge to wash out of the tank and into your absorption field, causing damage. Does this water contain laundry water also? If so, check with your local regulations. They probably require that water go to the septic system since they are a household waste. If your tank is currently full of clear water, I would not bother to pump that out. It is not worth the money.
Yeah. Laundry and other grey water goes into the tank per code. The sump on the other hand doesn’t have to. It’s not removing any thing else other than foundation water. I figure now it’s separate, the clear water will go elsewhere and the septic tank will be ok. The nice thing is, it will sit for a few months before we can move. I’ve also added a system treatment to keep things flowing. Roebic sp? Leach field treatment. Prior to this, dad used ridx religiously. I kept that practice up as well. As long as the extra water that’s in the system now won’t hurt it, I’ll skip having it pumped again.
@@SilverAlert1 I don't recommend the use of additives. Just be sure to pump your tank when needed and do your best to reduce the strength and amount of wastewater your are putting into the system.
@@SilverAlert1 your dad was a smart man, use ridx my parents use it once a month, its been 15 years since they poumped. They just had risers installed and the tank condition was checked at that time. they had less than 6 inches of sludge at the bottom,
Tanks are generally buried 6 inches to 2 feet deep. If you have plumbing in your basement that gravity flows out, your tank may be much deeper, perhaps 48" down. Deeper tanks are harder to find :)
This guy is absolutely right I have septic tanks and three or four buildings and two other ones once a year I take my core samples to not want to get pumped for smaller tanks cost $400 and the two larger tanks in a settling tech cost $3000 to get pumped so all how often would you wanna Pump every three years like everybody says or when they need to be pumped
Im looking to do my own system in the future, Im an electrician by trade working for the local utility..This work is difficult but if you have the equipment which I do its all labor and research....DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT!!!!! EXCELLENT JOB!!!!
It does sound like you are overwhelming the system or it is failing. The lowest D-box is most susceptible to failure. That is how gravity works. Water will push-out at the lath of least resistance. That is often the lowest portion of the system or the portion that has the least amount of cover or above the tank. That said, water won't surface unless the system is malfunctioning.
So to give you more details, my home and septic system are only two years old. Seems like the overflow of the distribution box happens more frequently after a rain event. Is it possible I just don't have enough cover over the Leach lines? Last summer I added cover in some spots where I could actually see the top of the lines. I think I have 2-4" or more over all of it now. How much cover should I have?
@@patrickbates4161 Your system shouldn't behave after a rain event. This obviously means that rain or surface water is making its way into your system. Lack of proper surface water diversion away from the system and lack of proper cover may be the culprits. Do you have a foundation drain that is pumping clear water to your septic? If so, get that routed elsewhere. Only septic water from from sinks, toilets and showers should be going to your septic. Softener recharge water is a bit more tricky, especially in Indiana. A malfunctioning water softener can add hundreds of gallons of extra water a day that may tax your system. Your system should have about 12" of cover over the top. Check with your local state code to see what the minimum amount of cover is in your state. Indiana is 12". 2-3" is not enough.
@@Indiana_Sepitc_Tank_Systems Thanks for the information by the way .. My foundation does not drain to septic, but all other household water does including clothes washer, dish washer which pretty much run every day, do. Two adults, three teen agers who take 40 minute steam baths and call them showers, everyday are going into the system. I definitely don't have 12" of cover. Will check local guidelines.
Tyler, If not pumped, the sludge will build up in your tank, essentially using up the tank's space needed for biological and physical settling that happens through retention. If never pumped the sludge will build up in the tank until the tank is full with sludge. At that point, all waste simply flows through your tank, meaning solids, fats, oils and greases all head directly to your absorption field. This will harm the field's ability to absorb wastewater and cause premature failure.
Thank you that's awesome! I had a homeowner's neighbor that asked me that yesterday while mitigating an overflow in their garage and I wanted to provide that information to him. Thanks for the quick response!
I've opened the cover on a septic tank in a home that I am buying and I can see sludge up to the top of the tank. What I do not see is any liquids. Could this mean that the tank may have a leak or will pumping the tank be the only way to tell? Thanks for any advice!
Lance, you see the top of the scum layer which is normal. The scum layer on top and the sludge layer on the bottom may be thin or may be very think. If combined they make up 1/4 to 1/3 of the volume of the tank, it is time to have the tank pumped.
An effluent filter is always a good idea. That said, the problem with filters is they are not regularly cleaned. Lack of maintenance means that filters get plugged, resulting water getting backed up inside the tank (and the home's plumbing). Removing the filter during high-water in the tank will result in water rushing out of the tank into the field system. This would include much of the scum layer (fats, oils and greases). Tip, if you find your filter is plugged and your water level is high in the tank, try jiggling the filter every few minutes before removing it. This can crack a path for water to slowly flow through the filter, lowering the water level in the tank without creating a rush of the high water level out of the tank. Once the water level has lowered to normal levels, you can then remove the filter to clean it. Check and clean your filter every few months to avoid this situation.
@@Indiana_Sepitc_Tank_Systems I'm sure you're aware of this by now but there's a device available to prevent any flow when you remove the filter. Search for Sim/Tech STF-130 Maintenance Sleeve
Tom, I guess it was bad luck on my part that I opened up a septic tank without a notable scum layer. Not much F.O.G. (fats, oils and greases) produced by this family.
I wonder do you have to have a Leach bed under ground or can you make an above ground sand filter Leach bed. In my area we are required to have after septic tank, tank aerators in a secondary tank but I'm not sure of the Leach bed.
My question is, if it is a normal thing to pump your tank, why do they not have a outlet above the ground? They didn't do a good job on the paper showing where it is.
Good point. All septic and dosing tanks should have a riser and lid to the surface. I think most state codes now require risers to the surface, at least they do now in Indiana.
This is an interesting video, and good to have the background explained with a very tidy paper animation! I have a question, as my scenario is somewhat different. My septic tank is no longer necessary as there is now a municipal waste treatment plant to which my outlet is connected (I could quite legally bypass the tank, but the problem is finding someone to do it and the amount of paperwork involved in Italy due to the tank being on municipal land - it could take years to ever get it done). So it doesn't actually matter if the septic tank is allowing solids to bypass or polluting downstream as the outlet goes to the treatment plant anyway. In this context, what sort of percentage of solids would you consider might be excessive? Mine is certainly above your 25% recommendation, but the outlet water seems reasonably clear to the eye and the local plumbers who have seen my system seem to think it is really not worth doing yet on the grounds that there is obviously still a reasonable amount of liquid and hence space in which sludge could accumulate before a blockage becomes remotely likely. What's the worst you've seen in terms of percentages that still seems to flow?
John, It is not uncommon for people to neglect to pump their tanks, resulting in a completely full tank with a channel through the top of the sludge for their waste to travel from inlet to outlet without any settling. As you mentioned, full tanks can also create backups that will require you to hire someone to pump it down. Do you know if the municipality is fine with you sending them solids?
If you're already on sewer why not run schedule 40 all the way? You can expose the inlet line, tank and outlet lines cut them off a few feet out then crush and remove the tank then connect the plumbing directly. Or you can sever those lines and stub the pipe thru the tank all the same and leave the tank abandoned but have it pumped and fill it with stone. Where I live and work those repairs don't require local municipal input or the health department, they're only involved with the soil which you're not leeching into. Your connection is yours until about 10' from the road. Anything beyond that point is theirs. It wouldn't hurt to call a local septic company that offers repairs and installation - they'll know exactly what to do.
John, It is possible that solids build up in your tank and block the flow to the municipal sewer. Also, keep in mind that your sewer after the tank was made to carry effluent only. It is possible, depending on where you connect to your existing piping that solids get hung up in that pipe (especially in the elbows/turns) and cause a backup.
When I call out the septic service I've never seen anyone take a cross section sample using a sludge judge. When I do call them out they pump out my 1st 1500 gallon tank but tell me the second tank doesn't need pumped because it's all liquid and that's what I want.
That second tank will accumulate sludge but at a much, much slower rate than the first tank . It should be checked at some point. You may find you need to have it pumped every 10 or 12 years.
@@stuartmeade267 does the same 25-33% slude/scum rule apply to the second tank, which I think is called the distribution box? I do have three lids for my septic. Two lids are close together and the other farther away. The farthest away lid is what I'm referring to.
@@tubesockets120v The "second tank" refers to a second septic tank. A distribution box is often just a 12" x 12" x 12" concrete box used to distribute effluent to the absorption field trenches. If you have a second septic tank, yes, the 25-33% rule applies to it, just like the first tank.
Thanks for clearing that up about my 2nd tank for liquids. Is it odd (house built in 1974) that my first tank has two access lids? The pumping technician says it doesn't matter which lid they uncover and pump from because they can pump both sides from either one.
My septic just has a cement plate over it right on the lawn. I pulled it off and looked in. All I see is brown liquid about a foot from the top of the tank. I don't have any filters or anything that I can see. House was built in 1972 and my stupid town and board of health lost all the records of the well and septic. Is there any info you can share based on its age? It does appear to be a concrete tank with a brown masonry pipe that goes to the lawns surface.
Stuart Meade is the sludge the solids? I expected to feel actual solids at the bottom of the tank but with the exception of the occasional very small chunk I feel it's all liquid. It was just pumped 3 years ago. My question is the sludge solid or complete liquid? Sure seems like there's no solids in my tank when I probe it with a long pipe. the previous report says it has 2 leaching trenches 1 @ 32" 1 @ 33" I want to follow your advice but being new to this home with a septic I'm baffled as to why there seems to be no solids at the bottom. The liquid depth is 4'
I have been told that a healthy septic tank does not need to be pumped. That a properly digesting system will also consume the sludge and turn it into gas. But the problem is that many septics are not "healthy" because of too much of scum or too much water or even too much toilet paper - and that's why they need to be pumped. Mine is 20 years old and never been pumped. I have been here for 13 years with a family of 8 and had teenagers taking ridiculously long showers and more than our share of tp. The septic has never backed up and no pooling water in the yard. My neighbors are similar....20 year old septic tanks, never been pumped. Now all of us know that only poop, pee, toilet paper, water (shower, dishwasher, laundry, toilets) are the only thing to down. We don't even have a garbage disposal. We are very good about sending as little grease down the sink as possible and minimal food. I don't treat the septic with enzymes or anything as I was told that you only need to do that if the septic is having issues. So it seems like in 20 years, that me or my 2 other neighbors would have had an issue by now? That being said, I'm digging up my lids and doing this test! I did find out that if I sell my home, I have to have the tank pumped and the system certified. That was not a requirement when I bought the place 13 years ago. I'd rather do it now instead of under the stress of a sale.
Frank, Some systems last an unexplained long time whether they are pumped or not. You are fortunate to have one of those systems. That said, you are incorrect about the system not needing to be pumped. Your tank is certainly full of sludge which is both negating the whole reason to have a septic tank and certainly causing damage to your field system. Please report back after checking your tank! Thank you. Stuart
@@stuartmeade267 I was able check my tank and while the sludge was quite high, it was not up to the outlet. And very little scum layer. It got pumped and I added inspection ports/access so I don't have to dig it up next time. We also sent a camera down the outlet to the distribution box and it all looked good.
@@fnalley1761 This is great. Now check your sludge yearly to see how fast is accumulates. You are on the way to proper care and maintenance of your septic tank while saving money!
Stuart Meade Well we went 20 years until we pumped it, so that was pretty low cost! Checking will be easy now that I put in access. Digging it up was not all that fun as it was not exactly where shown on the original plans...which seems common.
an informative video. My neighbors have no idea how the septic systems work. Some have never pumped the systems. we have our pumps done every two years when the three kids where home and now with the two of us it's about every 3 years. Our system is 34 years and good so far. I put Ridex every other month or so. I wonder if Ridex is a good idea or not?
Generally speaking, your system does not need of any additives (biological or chemical). Pumping your tank as needed and reducing the strength and amount of wastewater is the best thing you can do for your system.
I have a QUESTION. What if you come in and move into a house that has a septic tank. And the home has been empty with no activity for a long time... Say a few years 2 to 5 years. So no new bacteria has been introduced to the tank... Will the life in the tank still be viable and able to be jump stsrted when you move in and start pooping there?? Or will the tank really need pumped before you start living there???
The tank only needs to be pumped if the sludge and scum make up 25-33% of the tank depth. You do not need to pump a tank simply because it has been sitting unused for years. I hope that helps. That said, it is a good time to investigate the tank to see if it is watertight (before you start sending water to it).
I will soon need to pump out a tank in africa. There are no contractors available to dispose of the contents. If I found one they'd probably empty it into a river anyway. Anyone have any ideas on how to safely deal with the sludge? Perhaps some clever way to turn it into compost or the like?
Hmmm. I've known of remote places in Canada where they have no pumper available. They use the tank until it is mostly full of sludge and then abandon it in the ground and build a new tank. I know municipalities often compost their sludge but I'm certainly no expert on the process. Some googling is in order!
@@stuartmeade267 Thanks Stuart. Yes, I'm already thinking in terms of maybe coming up with some sort of DIY composting solution. I'm pretty sure the existing tank is inadequate as well, with only a single chamber and an outlet going to ground. So I might need to disinfect it and turn it into a multi chamber solution. Not a pleasant task, but there's no room anywhere else on the property to site it.
What about water softener's salt discharge? Our septic tank is 1000 gals softener discharges 6 lbs per cycle. I can lower it to 3 lbs per cycle but, might not soften the water rep said?
I would recommend you remove the softener discharge (re-charge water) from the septic system if doing so is a legal option in your state. While I understand most states allow softener re-charge water to be sent to the ground surface, Indiana does not. They consider softener discharge water "normal household waste" and there for it need to go to the septic system or its separate absorption field. "Turn down" your softener to as low as you can while still getting the benefits you want.
Made my day....now I can determine the location and determine if I need to pump it or not. Even if I decide not to pump myself, at least I can call a professional in my area to come and do it at my time.
My septic tank is 8 feet square and 7 feet deep. It is 43 years old with the same field line. I put bacteria in it once a month and root killer they recommend once a year. I check mine once a year to see if it needs pumping. So far it has not been pumped and is still going strong. The secret is watching the household chemicals you put in it and keeping Bacteria and root killer in your Tank.
@@truenorthmuskoka9077 You can look this up on line, I buy it from our local Wal-Mart, it is in the store, if not Wal-Mart has it on line, Roebic Laboratories 1LB ROOT KILLER - Kills Roots in Septic and Sewer Lines, I usually put in in mine every 8-10 months.
Great video, Stuart. Nicely described (and illustrated). I grew up with an outhouse, and later studied civil engineering and architecture, and had a hand in designing a number of residential septic systems. If you can get around the material being handled, it's a fascinating technology; how we get rid of our waste. If not, there's always knitting. I now own a 30 year old home in the country with a septic tank/leech field and am fortunate to have a great septic firm (who could probably have a pretty good YT channel, if they were so inclined) to service and advise on it. Best regards and don't mind the online idiots.
Thank you for your video, what would you advise for a concrete septic tank filling into a soak pit getting repeatedly full after a 6 year usage period.
Why not use a stick that you can throw away? And how are you going to clean this time with all the little moving parts? How often do you spray it and get yourself wet with the funk? Do you just throw it in the truck with the rest of your tools then handle your tools without gloves? Maybe it needs a case? Or maybe just use a stick.
You could use a stick, but it is much less effective and doesn't show you the details of the contents of your tank. Running hose water through it cleans it enough to keep the pipe clear enough.
We had our 1500 gallon tank for over 20 years, and no problems. When we sold the house the buyers wanted us to pump it so we had it pumped and in the bottom was only 6" of sludge and on the top was about 10" of scum. because we never put anything into the tank except human waste.
I didn't notice any mention of the SCUM depth. Isn't this a critical consideration as well. As the scum builds in volume in moves downward from the water level, and eventually has the potential to enter the exit pipe, which of course is a bad thing.
Yes, you are correct. I thought I mentioned the tank should be pumped once the sludge + scum is 25% to 33% of the depth of the tank. I wish this tank had more of a scum layer. It would have been easier to make that point. Thanks for watching.
Meade Septic Design Inc. I think you may want to think about that scum measure as 25% of tank level. That'coming down the height of the discharge baffle or tee whatever it happens to be.
I agree. If you have all scum and no sludge, 33% would pretty much cover the entire baffle. 25% is always a better "pump level" but folks want to wait as long as they can. 25% recommended, 33% required!
I purchased 6 years ago and has been a definite money saver. Today 2/12/2023 I measured again after three years since last pump and it is easily another three years till I need to look and measure again. Thus I saved $600 dollars for a non-pump-out year. Thank you Staurt! Regards. Jeff
Thank you, Jeff!
Thank you for the update and congratulations on the savings!
The animation in your tank was really really well done
Thank you!
I was going to leave a very similar comment But after reading yours, I don't have to.
It's 2 am and drunk …. what am I doing with my life ??? and yet I find this video enlightening
You could be watching something much less informative!
Love it! Had me laughing. 😂
Sometimes that’s when you really realize what’s important. Provided you’re not a mean drunk that is. When I get drunk, which is not often, I feel love and appreciation so much more, no anger or jealousy which is great. I’ll never understand mean drunks and I’m glad that no one in my family is that way. Count my blessings.
Not sure why but I also am watching this at 2am after several drinks. Cheers!
We all need God
More God 😉😍🍻
I pump my septic tank every 4 years. easy to remember if you do it in November at election time when all the campaigning is going on (a bunch of crap) what do you think of this idea?
This is pretty good idea. However, it is possible your tank needs to be pumped sooner that every four years OR you can go longer, perhaps every six years. The core sampler is the best way to check and see when it actually needs to be pumped.
Depends on how many people in the house. With two people I'd check 1st. I've seen couples go beyond 5 years.
The community makes us get ours checked every 3 years in the Summer. It's a fine if we don't get it pumped or a certificate that the sludge layer is less than 33% (I think there's only like a 30 day grace period too). Ours is always at about the right time to get pumped every 3 years too, though I suspect we could go 4.
@@dupeaccount1647 This is a good policy for your community system!
yard farmer - this is a perfect way to remember to pump - especially because of the similarities between politicians and septic tanks both being full of shit!!
Super helpful! An informed consumer is a consumer who doesn't get taken advantage of. Excellent!
Your professionalism is hard to compete with , your clients should be honored to have your service , thanks for the great informational video
The family and I are always looking for a fun project. Thanks for sharing.
I own a vacation home in a small shoreline town in Connecticut . It’s used 6 months out of the year. The town requires that I pump my septic system every 5 years if it needs pumping or not ! And they require proof of pumping by the septic company that does the job !
That's a pain! No need to pump a tank that doesn't need to be pumped!
It certainly is . And they keep track of it !!! I tried ignoring it and the town kept sending me reminders saying that I was violating a town ordinance !!!
@@donaldperrotta8514 If they are going to require your tank be pumped, it should only be when the tank needs it. I know of a county here in Indiana that requires tanks be pumped as needed but they CHECK THE TANK to be sure it needs to be pumped.
That makes perfect sense … but not in this small shoreline town that’s been under control by swamp Yankees for over 100 years ! I’m regarded as “seasonal” resident … although I pay taxes year round ! and to add insult to injury .. I don’t have a dishwasher or washing machine ! only 1 full bathroom and 2 bedrooms … can’t fight city hall !!!!
It’s 1:30 in the afternoon in Germany I am high and watching this video what I am doing with all my life
For goodness sakes go outside! Germany is a beautiful country.
Bravo! Nice illustration. Easy to understand and plain makes sense. I see value in your core sampler and the added value you've given us here.
Thank you.
is it necessary to pump both sides of the tank? i/p and o/p?
Thank you so much. New homeowner here. Will definitely be core sampling my tank as soon as I settle. This is top priority on my list of to dos.
Loved your fast motion doodle video drawings to explaing the process to construct a complete engineered septic system.
Thank you, Henry. It was a bit of a long and tedious process making the stop animation but was well worth it. Thanks again.
Riddex is crap you might as well be put in oatmeal down your your septic tank you shouldn't have a wash machine pouring chlorine bleach and ear your septic tank and drainfield that's the cause of them failing I seen him last 60 years ice put septic tanks in in the 70s and the 80s I was one of the first ones to get certified and I got all these fancy tools now I can't believe what it cost to put in a drain system
Finally a smart and honest man. Thank you very much for sharing this video with me (us). Finally guess work is over and peddlers are at bay.
Maurice
I'm so glad you found it helpful!
4:39 I like how you made the glove disappear then reappear
Great easy-to-understand video, thanks! had our tank drained today, so i was curious as to what exactly happens as i am new o rural life.
I'm glad you found it helpful.
In SoCal, our tanks have a “baffle wall” separating the “solid” from the “liquid” sides, with a crossover tube connecting them which, for the most part, keeps suspended solids from entering the liquid side and hence the leech field. And most our tanks are plastic, unless they are to be driven over.
Two compartment tanks work just like two tank in series. Each tank, or compartment, separates out the solids, scum and effluent into the three layers. The second compartment, or second tank, just recieves the effluent from the first tank (or first compartment). The retention time in that second tank or compartment allows that effluent to further separate out suspended particles and nutrients, effectively lowering the strength of the wastewater even more so, which is beneficial to your septic system.
So far best info I’ve found for when to pump my tank.
Well Done Stuart! very professional and educational.
Thank you Dennis!
Great video on septic tank pumping and the best time to do so. I think I will direct all of out current septic service customers to watch your video as it's very educational and informative. Thanks a ton..Dan Sexton III :-)
Thank you, Dan! I very much appreciate the kind words.
1:33 - its like those diagrams you see on social media, which box will fill up first and some are blocked off and others are not. But these are all blocked off.
Just a note...Amazon has a no return policy on core samplers...no matter how well you rinse it off. LOL To date, tank pumping is still a lot less than city sewer charges in my town. Nice video.
The core sampler in 2019 cost $160 that includes shipping.
$158 (almost $160)
If you can't build it I would say that's a fair price. Could save you alot. Then again so could a diet change lol
Still beats a siphon tube.
Boat thing is a cleat great video I’m new to septic always had sewer at house thank you!
You are very welcome! Be sure to take good care of your system.
Each side will need to be pumped when the sludge build up to the 25-33% level. The side where the inlet is will accumulate sludge much quicker than the second compartment. You should check each side with the core sampler to see what needs to be pumped. That said, if the pumper is there anyway, they should probably go ahead and pump both sides, even if just the one really needs it.
It’s mandatory in my state it be pumped every 2 to 3 years...we have a double...so 3 years.
Aren't both sides pumped anyway when having the tank pumped?
@@davidhouston5783 Yes, both sides will be pumped but the second compartment won't need to be pumped nearly as often as the first compartment. But yes, with one tank, you would have both compartments pumped. If you had three large tanks in series you would want to only pump the tanks that need it (according to my video). This would save you money.
I have had my septic tank pumped but they have only opened one side. Do all tanks have two sides that are supposed to be pumped? I am thinking to have my septic pumped this summer it has been over three years. Any suggestions for it too flow better besides the monthly bacteria maintenance. Thanks
I’m not finding this info to be accurate based on other sources. The ones I found state the measurement should be based on the outlet side of the tank, not both sides.
bajuarek, The pumper does not need to leave sludge or scum to seed the tank. This will happen on it's own. In the future, make sure he pumps it all out.
You clearly enjoy what you do, so I do, too!
Thank you for your support Dottie! I'll put out a new video sometime soon.
Can you upload an instructional video on how to properly clean the core sampler after using it?
That's a good idea. Perhaps I can get that done once things warm up a bit. I simply place the open end over the septic tank opening and let hose water flow through the tube from the other end. I turn the tube as water flows through it.
In a separate area, a rinse with a 10% Javex to water solution would be a good idea.
Hi Stuart....great video and the animated illustration of drawing was great. thanks man..
Great video..learned so much, gettin septic done for 1st. time as homeowner, hope they have that measuring stick!!
Vane Vane
They won’t have it. I see this more for the home owner to gauge how often it really needs to be done so as to avoid unnecessary expense and problems.
thank you great video. In 2001 our house in NJ seller had to replace 1000 gal septic & leach field. We always pump it out ever 2 years always had a thick slum layer with driver said it was ok. I never knew they made a core sampler.
Pump before it plugs up and overflows.
We have been on a septic tank system for 60 year's.
We have the tank pumped annually.
Well
You dont know the size of my tank and that we have 14 children 😉
The tank was put in 60 years ago and I am on my third wife.
Lots of children and dozens of grandchildren.
Gosh Justin
You do have very bad Cabin fever 😉😁😎
@@soillife1 Yup, I do mine every two years, better safe than sorry.
Whenever you pay to have your septic tank pumped, you can write that off on your taxes. And also if you have to septic tank and leach field repair or replacement, you can get government assistance, meaning that they will help foot the money cost on the repair and replacement. Just contact your local "County Extension Office" I hope that this little information helps someone or somebody. :-)
Lenovovo, What makes you think you can write-off the cost of having your septic system maintained? In the US?
Hola Stuart. I Enjoyed your guidance & will order the Core sampler via the link you provided someone below.
3 questions-
A- can I inset a garden hose into intake pipe from house to tank (at the tank side) & turn it on to clear blockage in drain pipe near the end of the drain run? My tank and drain pipes are vintage 1976: No T-Shape end of drain run on the incoming drain pipe into the tank. I recall seeing a had a cast iron plate detached and several inches from the cast iron pipe drain intake. Thus there may be room to insert a hose. Your advise?
The kitchen sink an a shower tend to have water back up. The tank was drained clean ( so they said) a year ago.
B- the lid on the tank is about 18-20" deep and covered with clay dirt that is very hard to dig out. What can I replace the clay soil that I remove with to alleviate the too difficult dig again?
Top Soil? Your advise?
C. Can I pour Rid X powder directly into the tank ?
Thank you
Hello Jose, Using water from your hose is not going to be a good way to clear blockage in the gravity sewer. If you have a blockage, you should contact a professional clean-out service who can run a "router" though the pipe. Contact you local septic tank precaster and have them provide a riser and new lid to put on your existing tank. Before you put a new riser on an old tank, I'd suggest having a professional check out our tank to be sure it is structurally sound enough to continue using.
the boat looking thing is called a cleat
Boop!!
No its not it's called a hook, cleats are creases in pants stupid or types of running shoes stupid ok?
@@georgemartinez8434 did you get up on the wrong side of the bed or what? If you google cleat it shows an image of this exact part, and nowhere does it mention a pants crease, which is called a crease. Lighten up.
@@sandiatcheson3921 was just being ignorant, didn't believe anyone on your side would respond back. No hard feelings huh. I forgive you!
It's actually called a kevel.....now who's stupid
This video was awesome! Very well explained and very easy to understand. I plan on purchasing a sludge judge from you .
Jim, thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you found the video helpful.
It cost 275 dollars in arkansas to have septic pumped out (1000)gallon ,recommend every 4 years,for family of 4
General recommendations may not work for your family. You may need your tank pumped more often (or less often). If you only need your tank pumped every 6 years, you are wasting money having it pumped more often.
Stuart Meade I’ve run into numerous customers that get it done every year no matter what, I guess some people get peace of mind by doing it that often. On the other end of the spectrum I’ve had people brag that they’ve never had it pumped (usually 10 years right up to 25-30 years) then wonder why all of a sudden they’re system starts backing up every time the tank fills back up. It truly amazes me that some folks willingly destroy one of, if not THE most expensive part of your home/property all because they think maintenance is a waste of money or it’s too expensive. Well you reap what you sow I guess.......
In Finland the regulations require to pump the septic 1-2 times a year depending from the use. It costs somewhat 100-200€ per time depending from the transport distances.
That is very often. Pumping your tank before it needs it is not helpful. That's because tanks often take a few weeks or month to "settle-in", separating into the various layers. During this period, the effuent leaving the tank (from the effluent layer) layer is not as clean as it will be after the settle-in period is complete. Therefor pumping before your tank needs it, perhaps yearly, means your tank is spending more time in this settling-in period, sending higher strength water to your absorption field. Make sense?
It totally makes sence. I prefer longer time too. But what do you do, it is the regulations.
Some cities even keeps a list so they can supervice that all houseowners has emptied the tank by the regulations. And remind if not.
Thumbs up, just for the stop-motion animation alone!
Thank you. It was a bit of work but worth it!
The boat thing is called a cleat
Thank u so much, Stewart on Septics.
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Wow what a perfect video. Thank you for sharing this information with us.
Our pleasure!
Great video. We're a family of 5 and have a 500 gallon traditional septic tank. I've taken the washing machine off of it to reduce the load. We have a 50 year old house and system and it's now starting to have issues with draining. Especially when it rains. It seems like we're pumping every spring. I'm wondering if there bio mat build up in the leach field. Is there anything you can recommend to help reduce this? Thank you
Your options depends on where you live and what regulations allow.
So just to be clear you pump out the entire tank and leave NO sludge layer? If this correct what would you use to promote new bacteria and enzyme growth?
The anaerobic bacteria necessary to aid in settling with automatically propagate. No need to leave any sludge behind or to add bacteria or enzymes. That said, the pumper, due to the limitations of the equipment he uses (a large diameter suction hose), will never be able to pump every tiny bit from the tank.
Thank you I really needed to be educated about septic tank systems. I have been looking for properties that have land, but they also come with well water and septic tank systems.I have been afraid to even consider purchasing any property that had one or both. Do you have a list of items that should be covered in a inspection? And, how much does it generally cost to have a septic tank pumped? Great video!
First, remember that septic systems have a life span. Some last 15-20 years and some last much longer (or shorter). If you're looking to buy a house with a septic system find out everything you can about when it was installed and how often the tank has been pumped. Also ask about how many people have lived in the house. Two older people will be MUCH easier on a septic system than a family of four. Often old systems will function for the older folks but will quickly go into failure once the family moves in. The number one thing to check during an inspection is evidence of high water in the tank. If the water level in the tank has been above the outlet, that is evidence that the system was backed up in the past (water was moving into the tank faster than the absorption field could take water). This is, at the very least, evidence the system is in early stages of failure, so beware! You can also as the local health department if they have records of the systems installation. Also be aware that a failed septic system that is not used for a long time due to a house sitting empty (e.g. forclosure), will work for some period of time before it goes again into failure. That might be one year or one month.
It would also be a good idea to ask people in the area what they paid to recently have a new system installed. Don't get burned by having wishful thinking about the septic system or well.
Thank you for your response, their are 3 single family houses on the property. They all have electricity from the city, but it has it's own well and septic tank system. One of the houses (the largest house) has been vacant for a few years. The owner said it had two septic tanks, but now that septic tanks have two compartments, so I need to make sure to ask if it is two tanks or two compartments. I am in the process of getting a loan and just wanted to see the property. I was able to talk to the owner and we did not really go into the specifics of the property, because I am not ready to negotiate. The main house was boarded, for security. The other two houses are occupied. I would look at that as being a good thing, but I once saw a property I wanted to rehab that had a tenant. I thought the property just needed to be fixed, but after paying $400 for an engineer to look at it I found that it had to be torn down. So, I have learned to do my home work. Your videos are very educational and gives people a tool to know what to look for and how to not being taking advantage of by businesses in the industry. Thank you.
Two systems for one house is a red flag. At the very least it means the systems are very old. These tanks are bound to be very small and possibly corroded.
Ask when the tanks were pumped last and wait for the blank stare. Budget for a new septic system. I know you don't want to hear that but its reality.
Funny... it actually has three houses on it. The original that was built in 1940 and I don't know when the other two were added. I have 6 children and I would like to have the two smaller for my four adult children. So, I was wondering if each house should have it's own tank. I thought maybe having two was a good thing. I am not planning to spend all my rehab budget on a septic system. I will have an inspection and if it doesn't look promising then I will have to move on. But you advise has been invaluable.
Good luck!
Ahhh...those late night hours when you stray into the best parts of youtube..."should I pump my septic tank?", "How to debone a platypus?", "documentary on moldavian underground squirrel fighting", "meet the people who determine how many buttons should be on a shirt", "is surgical swap of mouth and anus a good way to lose weight" and so on
Androandroandrica Len thanks for the heads up on the platypus!!
This guy does not no what he is talking about.You should pump your tank every year and a half to 2 years.If you have a garbage desposil ever year.I pump septic daily.We dont use these tubs to check the tanks.
@@richardkelly5385 You check daily???
Do you want to verify that?
I have about 4'' of scum (crust) in my tank which is almost flush with inlet.We are only two adults what causes the scum to accumulate was pumped out 3 years ago.I also have a water softner .Appreciate your opinionPhil
Hello hope your well. The tank is just cement right? And how deep the drill to install septic tank ? Thank you so much this vid helpful so much.
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We are a family of 7. We do not flush toilet paper or wipes. We use bleach about a 2 cups a month for white clothes. We have used green gobbler septic packs monthly for the past 4 years. We have also have an insinkerator garbage disposal that we use green gobbler garbage disposal enzyme liquid. We had our septic company out last month and he said there was less than an inch of sludge after 5 years (1500 gallon tank). He said we can go another 4-5 years based on our practices. The key is maintenance, not flushing paper and adding enzymes or yeast regularly to digest waste and reduce methane gases and the enzymes will also eat waste in the drain field ports
Excellent video presentation, thank you. Informative and entertaining. Who would have thought anythning on septic tanks can be entertaining 😂
Thank you!
I was 8. When my grandfather had a septic put in, he had 4 1000 gallon tanks made & installed, i was 35 last i heard the system still hasn't been pumped..
It's possible that some of those tanks, the ones further downstream, still don't need to be pumped. The first one or two most certainly do, even under a very light load.
what if my septic tank does not look like the one in your drawing? I dug up the 2 covered holes but when I opened them the inlet side was level with the cover and had about 2 inches of sludge at the top. The outlet side also had liquids level with the top lid but no sludge, just murky water. I have had no symptoms from inside the house that the septic needed to be pumped but it is going on five years and I thought I was pushing it by waiting so long. by the way, it’s just me and my 15-year-old daughter living in a 1400 square-foot house if that info helps. thank you
Caroline, you may have a two compartment tank where the sludge is first accumulating in the first compartment. You may be able to go five years or more between pumping, but the only way to tell for sure is to core sample your tank. Best wishes.
Any tips on how to find that access cover? I can't see digging up 32 square feet of yard to find it.
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@@stuartmeade267 Thanks for the videos.
Boat thing is probably a cleat....nice explanation of how the tank is checked using this tool
Thank you!
Make sure your system has an outlet filter to help protect your leech field.
Great information. I just had my fathers septic tank pumped. I wasn’t sure how long ago it was done. He passed away about a year ago and my family will be taking over the house.
Here is a question for you. He had a sump pump discharging into the main line to the septic tank. Upon talking with the service that pumped it, he said to move the sumps discharge someplace else.
Well, it took me about 3 weeks but I got it done. ( had to work) Unfortunately if my math serves me right, on average it was dumping 2 to 3 times an hour of about 10 gallons. That’s a ton of water per day. Obviously the tank is most likely full of this water. Is there anything I should do? We won’t be living there for at least 5 months so water usage will be limited to the times we are there remodeling. Any advice is welcome.
That is a common issue, clear water from the sump pit dumping lots of foundation water to the septic system. This extra water can really tax your system. The discharge can also keep the tank stirred up and allow solids and sludge to wash out of the tank and into your absorption field, causing damage. Does this water contain laundry water also? If so, check with your local regulations. They probably require that water go to the septic system since they are a household waste. If your tank is currently full of clear water, I would not bother to pump that out. It is not worth the money.
Yeah. Laundry and other grey water goes into the tank per code. The sump on the other hand doesn’t have to. It’s not removing any thing else other than foundation water. I figure now it’s separate, the clear water will go elsewhere and the septic tank will be ok. The nice thing is, it will sit for a few months before we can move. I’ve also added a system treatment to keep things flowing. Roebic sp? Leach field treatment. Prior to this, dad used ridx religiously. I kept that practice up as well.
As long as the extra water that’s in the system now won’t hurt it, I’ll skip having it pumped again.
@@SilverAlert1 I don't recommend the use of additives. Just be sure to pump your tank when needed and do your best to reduce the strength and amount of wastewater your are putting into the system.
Ok. Sounds good.
@@SilverAlert1 your dad was a smart man, use ridx my parents use it once a month, its been 15 years since they poumped. They just had risers installed and the tank condition was checked at that time. they had less than 6 inches of sludge at the bottom,
How deep would the lid be buried under ground theres a pole in our yard marking it but its covered in dirt and grass above the tank.
Tanks are generally buried 6 inches to 2 feet deep. If you have plumbing in your basement that gravity flows out, your tank may be much deeper, perhaps 48" down. Deeper tanks are harder to find :)
@@stuartmeade267 it's a mobile home
@@Bobherry It shouldn't be deep! It's probably at least 50', 75' or 100' from the well.
"The Boat thingy" It's called a cleat. Thanks, I'm going to check and see if I can get this "Core" check done first.
Thank you for this video and the illustrations. Very informative, i needed to see what it was that needed to be dug out.
This guy is absolutely right I have septic tanks and three or four buildings and two other ones once a year I take my core samples to not want to get pumped for smaller tanks cost $400 and the two larger tanks in a settling tech cost $3000 to get pumped so all how often would you wanna Pump every three years like everybody says or when they need to be pumped
Im looking to do my own system in the future, Im an electrician by trade working for the local utility..This work is difficult but if you have the equipment which I do its all labor and research....DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT!!!!! EXCELLENT JOB!!!!
One of my three distribution boxes is lower than the other three and is overflowing effluent on to the lawn. Am I just over whelming the system?
It does sound like you are overwhelming the system or it is failing. The lowest D-box is most susceptible to failure. That is how gravity works. Water will push-out at the lath of least resistance. That is often the lowest portion of the system or the portion that has the least amount of cover or above the tank. That said, water won't surface unless the system is malfunctioning.
So to give you more details, my home and septic system are only two years old. Seems like the overflow of the distribution box happens more frequently after a rain event. Is it possible I just don't have enough cover over the Leach lines? Last summer I added cover in some spots where I could actually see the top of the lines. I think I have 2-4" or more over all of it now. How much cover should I have?
@@patrickbates4161 Your system shouldn't behave after a rain event. This obviously means that rain or surface water is making its way into your system. Lack of proper surface water diversion away from the system and lack of proper cover may be the culprits. Do you have a foundation drain that is pumping clear water to your septic? If so, get that routed elsewhere. Only septic water from from sinks, toilets and showers should be going to your septic. Softener recharge water is a bit more tricky, especially in Indiana. A malfunctioning water softener can add hundreds of gallons of extra water a day that may tax your system. Your system should have about 12" of cover over the top. Check with your local state code to see what the minimum amount of cover is in your state. Indiana is 12". 2-3" is not enough.
@@Indiana_Sepitc_Tank_Systems Thanks for the information by the way ..
My foundation does not drain to septic, but all other household water does including clothes washer, dish washer which pretty much run every day, do. Two adults, three teen agers who take 40 minute steam baths and call them showers, everyday are going into the system. I definitely don't have 12" of cover. Will check local guidelines.
Either once ever 10 or 20 years or every other day, just go with what you feel.
Can someone explain what the consequences of leaving the sludge again? I didn't understand his verbiage.
Tyler, If not pumped, the sludge will build up in your tank, essentially using up the tank's space needed for biological and physical settling that happens through retention. If never pumped the sludge will build up in the tank until the tank is full with sludge. At that point, all waste simply flows through your tank, meaning solids, fats, oils and greases all head directly to your absorption field. This will harm the field's ability to absorb wastewater and cause premature failure.
Thank you that's awesome! I had a homeowner's neighbor that asked me that yesterday while mitigating an overflow in their garage and I wanted to provide that information to him. Thanks for the quick response!
You bet
I've opened the cover on a septic tank in a home that I am buying and I can see sludge up to the top of the tank. What I do not see is any liquids. Could this mean that the tank may have a leak or will pumping the tank be the only way to tell? Thanks for any advice!
Lance, you see the top of the scum layer which is normal. The scum layer on top and the sludge layer on the bottom may be thin or may be very think. If combined they make up 1/4 to 1/3 of the volume of the tank, it is time to have the tank pumped.
i highly recommend installing a filter on your septic tank which helps prevent the sludge from entering the drain field.
An effluent filter is always a good idea. That said, the problem with filters is they are not regularly cleaned. Lack of maintenance means that filters get plugged, resulting water getting backed up inside the tank (and the home's plumbing). Removing the filter during high-water in the tank will result in water rushing out of the tank into the field system. This would include much of the scum layer (fats, oils and greases). Tip, if you find your filter is plugged and your water level is high in the tank, try jiggling the filter every few minutes before removing it. This can crack a path for water to slowly flow through the filter, lowering the water level in the tank without creating a rush of the high water level out of the tank. Once the water level has lowered to normal levels, you can then remove the filter to clean it. Check and clean your filter every few months to avoid this situation.
You only need a large "T" as shown in the sketch to keep sludge out of the weeping bed.
The filter will only prevent partials that are too big to pass the filter, the finer stuff still makes it out there no matter what.
@@Indiana_Sepitc_Tank_Systems I'm sure you're aware of this by now but there's a device available to prevent any flow when you remove the filter. Search for Sim/Tech STF-130 Maintenance Sleeve
@@geecrawdad Yes, many effluent filters have a ball or other device that will plug the outlet of the tank when the filter is removed.
Stuart, here is my question. Love the device. What/how does one do with it, ie where should it be stored? Thanks.
Timothy, When finished, you can rinse it off with a garden hose over the septic tank lid opening. Then simply store it in the pvc case it came in.
Meade Septic Design Inc. thanks! Brilliant design!
Glove removal was spot on!
In your video I did not see the top scum layer in the core sample.
Tom, I guess it was bad luck on my part that I opened up a septic tank without a notable scum layer. Not much F.O.G. (fats, oils and greases) produced by this family.
I have a septic tank which runs into a leachpit. My leachpit also needs pumping because it is at the top every year
I wonder do you have to have a Leach bed under ground or can you make an above ground sand filter Leach bed. In my area we are required to have after septic tank, tank aerators in a secondary tank but I'm not sure of the Leach bed.
My question is, if it is a normal thing to pump your tank, why do they not have a outlet above the ground? They didn't do a good job on the paper showing where it is.
Good point. All septic and dosing tanks should have a riser and lid to the surface. I think most state codes now require risers to the surface, at least they do now in Indiana.
@@stuartmeade267 What about New York state?
@@Hippieinthewoods I don't know the code there. Try googling "New York State Septic Code"
This is an interesting video, and good to have the background explained with a very tidy paper animation!
I have a question, as my scenario is somewhat different. My septic tank is no longer necessary as there is now a municipal waste treatment plant to which my outlet is connected (I could quite legally bypass the tank, but the problem is finding someone to do it and the amount of paperwork involved in Italy due to the tank being on municipal land - it could take years to ever get it done). So it doesn't actually matter if the septic tank is allowing solids to bypass or polluting downstream as the outlet goes to the treatment plant anyway.
In this context, what sort of percentage of solids would you consider might be excessive? Mine is certainly above your 25% recommendation, but the outlet water seems reasonably clear to the eye and the local plumbers who have seen my system seem to think it is really not worth doing yet on the grounds that there is obviously still a reasonable amount of liquid and hence space in which sludge could accumulate before a blockage becomes remotely likely.
What's the worst you've seen in terms of percentages that still seems to flow?
John, It is not uncommon for people to neglect to pump their tanks, resulting in a completely full tank with a channel through the top of the sludge for their waste to travel from inlet to outlet without any settling. As you mentioned, full tanks can also create backups that will require you to hire someone to pump it down. Do you know if the municipality is fine with you sending them solids?
If you're already on sewer why not run schedule 40 all the way? You can expose the inlet line, tank and outlet lines cut them off a few feet out then crush and remove the tank then connect the plumbing directly. Or you can sever those lines and stub the pipe thru the tank all the same and leave the tank abandoned but have it pumped and fill it with stone. Where I live and work those repairs don't require local municipal input or the health department, they're only involved with the soil which you're not leeching into. Your connection is yours until about 10' from the road. Anything beyond that point is theirs. It wouldn't hurt to call a local septic company that offers repairs and installation - they'll know exactly what to do.
John, It is possible that solids build up in your tank and block the flow to the municipal sewer. Also, keep in mind that your sewer after the tank was made to carry effluent only. It is possible, depending on where you connect to your existing piping that solids get hung up in that pipe (especially in the elbows/turns) and cause a backup.
Thanks Stuart ...appreciate the help!
Thank you very much for making this video.
Why did he leave that heavy concrete lid in. Should have pulled it out earlier. Now it's going to be difficult
Thank you for this educational video.
Thank you for watching!
Great video! Loved the animation! Impressive!
When I call out the septic service I've never seen anyone take a cross section sample using a sludge judge.
When I do call them out they pump out my 1st 1500 gallon tank but tell me the second tank doesn't need pumped because it's all liquid and that's what I want.
That second tank will accumulate sludge but at a much, much slower rate than the first tank . It should be checked at some point. You may find you need to have it pumped every 10 or 12 years.
My guess is that pumper's truck won't hold 300 gallons. If it did, they'd probably go ahead and pump that second tank.
@@stuartmeade267 does the same 25-33% slude/scum rule apply to the second tank, which I think is called the distribution box? I do have three lids for my septic. Two lids are close together and the other farther away. The farthest away lid is what I'm referring to.
@@tubesockets120v The "second tank" refers to a second septic tank. A distribution box is often just a 12" x 12" x 12" concrete box used to distribute effluent to the absorption field trenches. If you have a second septic tank, yes, the 25-33% rule applies to it, just like the first tank.
Thanks for clearing that up about my 2nd tank for liquids. Is it odd (house built in 1974) that my first tank has two access lids? The pumping technician says it doesn't matter which lid they uncover and pump from because they can pump both sides from either one.
My septic just has a cement plate over it right on the lawn. I pulled it off and looked in. All I see is brown liquid about a foot from the top of the tank. I don't have any filters or anything that I can see. House was built in 1972 and my stupid town and board of health lost all the records of the well and septic. Is there any info you can share based on its age? It does appear to be a concrete tank with a brown masonry pipe that goes to the lawns surface.
No telling what's there! Liquid level about 12" below the top of the tank is typical (normal). You may or may not have a legit field system.
Stuart Meade is the sludge the solids? I expected to feel actual solids at the bottom of the tank but with the exception of the occasional very small chunk I feel it's all liquid. It was just pumped 3 years ago. My question is the sludge solid or complete liquid? Sure seems like there's no solids in my tank when I probe it with a long pipe. the previous report says it has 2 leaching trenches 1 @ 32" 1 @ 33"
I want to follow your advice but being new to this home with a septic I'm baffled as to why there seems to be no solids at the bottom. The liquid depth is 4'
I have been told that a healthy septic tank does not need to be pumped. That a properly digesting system will also consume the sludge and turn it into gas. But the problem is that many septics are not "healthy" because of too much of scum or too much water or even too much toilet paper - and that's why they need to be pumped. Mine is 20 years old and never been pumped. I have been here for 13 years with a family of 8 and had teenagers taking ridiculously long showers and more than our share of tp. The septic has never backed up and no pooling water in the yard. My neighbors are similar....20 year old septic tanks, never been pumped. Now all of us know that only poop, pee, toilet paper, water (shower, dishwasher, laundry, toilets) are the only thing to down. We don't even have a garbage disposal. We are very good about sending as little grease down the sink as possible and minimal food. I don't treat the septic with enzymes or anything as I was told that you only need to do that if the septic is having issues. So it seems like in 20 years, that me or my 2 other neighbors would have had an issue by now? That being said, I'm digging up my lids and doing this test! I did find out that if I sell my home, I have to have the tank pumped and the system certified. That was not a requirement when I bought the place 13 years ago. I'd rather do it now instead of under the stress of a sale.
Frank, Some systems last an unexplained long time whether they are pumped or not. You are fortunate to have one of those systems. That said, you are incorrect about the system not needing to be pumped. Your tank is certainly full of sludge which is both negating the whole reason to have a septic tank and certainly causing damage to your field system. Please report back after checking your tank! Thank you. Stuart
@@stuartmeade267 I was able check my tank and while the sludge was quite high, it was not up to the outlet. And very little scum layer. It got pumped and I added inspection ports/access so I don't have to dig it up next time. We also sent a camera down the outlet to the distribution box and it all looked good.
@@fnalley1761 This is great. Now check your sludge yearly to see how fast is accumulates. You are on the way to proper care and maintenance of your septic tank while saving money!
Stuart Meade Well we went 20 years until we pumped it, so that was pretty low cost! Checking will be easy now that I put in access. Digging it up was not all that fun as it was not exactly where shown on the original plans...which seems common.
an informative video. My neighbors have no idea how the septic systems work. Some have never pumped the systems. we have our pumps done every two years when the three kids where home and now with the two of us it's about every 3 years. Our system is 34 years and good so far. I put Ridex every other month or so. I wonder if Ridex is a good idea or not?
Generally speaking, your system does not need of any additives (biological or chemical). Pumping your tank as needed and reducing the strength and amount of wastewater is the best thing you can do for your system.
I have a QUESTION.
What if you come in and move into a house that has a septic tank. And the home has been empty with no activity for a long time... Say a few years 2 to 5 years. So no new bacteria has been introduced to the tank... Will the life in the tank still be viable and able to be jump stsrted when you move in and start pooping there?? Or will the tank really need pumped before you start living there???
The tank only needs to be pumped if the sludge and scum make up 25-33% of the tank depth. You do not need to pump a tank simply because it has been sitting unused for years. I hope that helps. That said, it is a good time to investigate the tank to see if it is watertight (before you start sending water to it).
I will soon need to pump out a tank in africa. There are no contractors available to dispose of the contents. If I found one they'd probably empty it into a river anyway.
Anyone have any ideas on how to safely deal with the sludge? Perhaps some clever way to turn it into compost or the like?
Hmmm. I've known of remote places in Canada where they have no pumper available. They use the tank until it is mostly full of sludge and then abandon it in the ground and build a new tank. I know municipalities often compost their sludge but I'm certainly no expert on the process. Some googling is in order!
@@stuartmeade267 Thanks Stuart. Yes, I'm already thinking in terms of maybe coming up with some sort of DIY composting solution. I'm pretty sure the existing tank is inadequate as well, with only a single chamber and an outlet going to ground. So I might need to disinfect it and turn it into a multi chamber solution. Not a pleasant task, but there's no room anywhere else on the property to site it.
What about water softener's salt discharge? Our septic tank is 1000 gals softener discharges 6 lbs per cycle. I can lower it to 3 lbs per cycle but, might not soften the water rep said?
I would recommend you remove the softener discharge (re-charge water) from the septic system if doing so is a legal option in your state. While I understand most states allow softener re-charge water to be sent to the ground surface, Indiana does not. They consider softener discharge water "normal household waste" and there for it need to go to the septic system or its separate absorption field. "Turn down" your softener to as low as you can while still getting the benefits you want.
Great video!!! Answered all of the questions I had and then some.
Great to hear!
Thank you for the advice.
Made my day....now I can determine the location and determine if I need to pump it or not. Even if I decide not to pump myself, at least I can call a professional in my area to come and do it at my time.
Stan the man every 3 years it said
My septic tank is 8 feet square and 7 feet deep. It is 43 years old with the same field line. I put bacteria in it once a month and root killer they recommend once a year. I check mine once a year to see if it needs pumping. So far it has not been pumped and is still going strong. The secret is watching the household chemicals you put in it and keeping Bacteria and root killer in your Tank.
whats roots killer.
@@truenorthmuskoka9077 You can look this up on line, I buy it from our local Wal-Mart, it is in the store, if not Wal-Mart has it on line, Roebic Laboratories 1LB ROOT KILLER - Kills Roots in Septic and Sewer Lines, I usually put in in mine every 8-10 months.
how do I find the septic tank lid on my property?
See if my other video helps th-cam.com/video/hqNyp5NCwAM/w-d-xo.html
Great video, Stuart. Nicely described (and illustrated).
I grew up with an outhouse, and later studied civil engineering and architecture, and had a hand in designing a number of residential septic systems. If you can get around the material being handled, it's a fascinating technology; how we get rid of our waste. If not, there's always knitting.
I now own a 30 year old home in the country with a septic tank/leech field and am fortunate to have a great septic firm (who could probably have a pretty good YT channel, if they were so inclined) to service and advise on it. Best regards and don't mind the online idiots.
Thank you for the kind words!
So did you check you outlet baffle ? When you sell is when your buyer will say you only pumped ever 6 years or more !!
Please clarify your comment. Are you responding to another comment?
Thank you for your video, what would you advise for a concrete septic tank filling into a soak pit getting repeatedly full after a 6 year usage period.
What do you mean "filling into a soak pit?"
Most the time there is a mid baffle or baffle wall. Inlet “baffle or outlet” are most commonly referred to as fittings.
A good pumping service will stir the sludge up into suspension before pumping the tank dry.
Wanted to change my order and left you a voicemail. Thanks for your expert opinion.
Why not use a stick that you can throw away? And how are you going to clean this time with all the little moving parts? How often do you spray it and get yourself wet with the funk? Do you just throw it in the truck with the rest of your tools then handle your tools without gloves? Maybe it needs a case? Or maybe just use a stick.
You could use a stick, but it is much less effective and doesn't show you the details of the contents of your tank. Running hose water through it cleans it enough to keep the pipe clear enough.
We had our 1500 gallon tank for over 20 years, and no problems. When we sold the house the buyers wanted us to pump it so we had it pumped and in the bottom was only 6" of sludge and on the top was about 10" of scum. because we never put anything into the tank except human waste.
Great video sir very educational keep up the good work 👍
I didn't notice any mention of the SCUM depth. Isn't this a critical consideration as well. As the scum builds in volume in moves downward from the water level, and eventually has the potential to enter the exit pipe, which of course is a bad thing.
Yes, you are correct. I thought I mentioned the tank should be pumped once the sludge + scum is 25% to 33% of the depth of the tank. I wish this tank had more of a scum layer. It would have been easier to make that point. Thanks for watching.
Meade Septic Design Inc. I think you may want to think about that scum measure as 25% of tank level. That'coming down the height of the discharge baffle or tee whatever it happens to be.
I agree. If you have all scum and no sludge, 33% would pretty much cover the entire baffle. 25% is always a better "pump level" but folks want to wait as long as they can. 25% recommended, 33% required!