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I think this narrator did every school and safety film I watched in the 60's and 70's
Mike Wallace off 60 Minutes.
lmfaoooo
Great video. I didn't realise that 75% of all roof problems occur at flashings.
+Roofing Contractors UK And you claim to be "a roofing contractor"???
I've never had the pleasure of dealing with a leaky roof, but I've had plenty of building issues where contractors would say "Just replace it; you can never fix it right.", like boilers and loose bathroom tiles, which I kept alive without much hassle for many years longer. But I'm inclined to believe that fixes like this are more likely to work on a DIY basis, where either an owner or a live-in building manager who works on the building on a regular basis has enough experience with it to chase down leaks before they become serious and monitor the fix to make sure it works permanently, and that the structure of the building hasn't suffered from the leakage that has taken place. Most roofing contractors don't want to be bothered with that, and I don't blame them, since it involves multiple visits which would cost far more than the same work by someone who is always there. That, of course, doesn't make them crooks and the title of this video is a little unfortunate in that respect. And I'm sure there are some repair firms that will do this kind of work, and if they can offer some guarantee at a reasonable price, they many be worth trying. But even then, I''d want to be watching the situation closely, just to know that the fix is for real.
Wow..Pace has a good point about the lack of roof maintenance. Great video. I actually learned something new today and that's a good thing. There Web-Jet process seems pretty good for asphalt based roofs.
Roofing Companies CT IDIOT
Mop and bucket. Shawshank redemption style. With a cold beer at the end of the day. AAAAgggghhhh!!!!
We do 4ply tar and gravel also 2 ply mod-bit(torch down roofing). Also do single ply but that's generally used for production on very large roofs. Much less labour to apply.
HAH. What a scam. Roofers like to tear up old roofing membranes for so many good reasons. Mainly being able to assess any water damage in your roof deck and structure. Going over existing membranes only creates more problems and doesn't fix other issues that a leak would cause. If you get a warranty for your roof, it's likely not a scam. And you gotta tear down to deck for any decent warranty.
This narrator guy has got like a retro-60's narrator voice. So oldschool. Kinda cool. . . . oh this IS retro.
"They were up there slappin' each other with the hot mops"...
Go to Your local Home Depot and insist on Pace Wet Jet! When they tell You they haven't a clue what You're talking about, just tell 'em IT'S THE BEST! Then go to Special Orders and harp the people behind the counter for at least forty five minutes that it has to be Pace, why don't they carry it, and how much their store sucks. When they finally give up, tell 'em You're going to Lowes.
excellent advice and I work with roofing contractors
Anyone that says "excellent advice " to this , I would stand clear of . The fact that this schmuck actually put his website link is crazy . STAY AWAY from this outfit
I actually like some of the spray/mop coatings that I put down at work. There's one in particular, I think it's called Gaco Roof or something. It's apparently 100% silicone, and sticks pretty good to everything. The thing is though, if you put it where there there is already an issue with ponding, it'll flake and fail within the year guaranteed. If it were we me on my building and I had the money, I'd coat a brand new roof with it. It makes more sense to coat the roof before it has a chance to deteriorate.
Great idea no tear off mess i would use it
I'm a ticketed roofer and I don't think going over gravel would work too good. Over a smooth surface maybe. Shame on hiring cheap "day laborers". Fall protection is still required and workers should make a living wage even doing this.
Sounds like a Dale Carnegie 70's special alright :-)
and now i have to tear that crap off.
lol gedder done brother. hahaha
I am in the process of tearing my old tar and gravel roof off (flat roof). Major pain in the ass. I'm replacing with a roofing membrane. Coated it years ago but that is only a temporary fix. Take your time and do it in sections. If the current roof leaks, buy tarps and tape the perimeter down with that tape they sell for exterior openings (window and door) until you can get to that area. Good luck!
Aproved roofing restoration system.
Ah yes, the good ol 5 finger trowel
that's funny right there!
It's fine to prolong your roofing investment!!! But to solve a repair is to have the necessary knowledge to trace the source of water penetration and then execute proper procedure. Most flat roofs can be repaired with generic materials offered at most building suppliers. ( May not last as long). Meaning if you can find the leak, you don't need a miracle in a can. But a pro can do it better and guide you in the right direction. Leaks can add up to a high cost on a worthless roof.
If it wasn't black, say tan or white you might have something, but black is most negatively impacted by solar deterioration.
They make it in white
Contractors love when building and homeowners do stupid things like this because it won't work and would cost 4 times as much to get rid of this mess
As a home/commercial building inspector, I run into this type of stuff constantly. First and foremost, these roofs being "repaired" were obviously never properly maintained to begin with. Secondly, patching flat roofing is only going to work for about 6 months at the max. Thirdly, if the roofing is being patched due to leakage that has penetrated into the interior of the home/property, you WILL have much more extensive damage under the roof's tar paper and/or decking that causes soft spots and framing or structural damage. That is why a proper roofing contractor would never authorize this type of half-handed work, much less guarantee the work. When it comes to your roof, just get the job done properly and save yourself thousands of dollars in future repairs. Don't forget, a roofing contractor is likely to charge more for removal when this stuff is done because it adds unnecessary labor and weight to the materials being removed.
This is so old it is obsolete. Both coatings and membranes have been improved to where using a water based product is a much better option than petroleum based coatings.
I FIXED 2 FLAT ROOFS THIS WAY WITH A TROWEL.. WORKED GREAT WITH THE OLD BASE PRODUCT MADE BY CONDOR IN QUEBEC CANADA CHECK MY CHANNEL
San379 - no thanks , this is crap and a mess
the contractor quoted 30.000$ to remove the roof and change everything even the plywood ... i put a thick layer of tar over it and fixed it for a few more years ..its still there today
Spray Directly on gravel
I don't think legitimate roofers have the time and day to rip customers off.
Their reputation is vital to their livelyhood.
But you do have to look out for small time hustlers and traveling con people.
it doesn't matter if roofing contractors don't want you to know these quick fixes, eventually that roof is coming down and you're going to need the muscle to install it and a home owner generally can't do it by himself. Although I'm guessing some people have accomplished it before but not without an aching back after 5 days of work
I wonder if Andy Dufresne can arrange for the workers to get a cold beer!
@tomandkelly well for a pinhole leak on a good quality well installed roof, this is the same stuff they sell in the can, this would work fine
interesting video
looks like something va.beach roofing co. would do,right over dirt and debri=harder repair/tearoff/reroof for the real roofer.
If done correctly, Top coatings cost as much as replacing the roof.
the same speaker was selling life time aluminum siding\ at the same time lol
Sorry don't think so. Had a roof with a flat section and dumped gallons upon gallons, entire roof was sealed probably 5 times and it still leaked. This crap is a band-aid that MAY work TEMPORARILY for SOME people.
+Ian Mcdowell I would recommend using liquid applied polyurethane
5 layers dang I'm thinking there is a problem with the coating not being thick enough, not penetrating the openings, contamination by dirt. But i agree these including the new ones are temporary and would probably give 10yrs if done right before the roof needs to be redone. I think your roof could use a few more drains and maybe a good base layer.
if you put 5 layers of anything on a flat roof and it still leaked, you were not addressing the actual leak, buddy. i spray, brush and roll water-based elastomerics and i have never even had a failure. substrate preparation is key to successful liquid coatings working for any duration of time. 'yes, you [must] remove all the spider's webs or you are going to see some sort of lumping or blistering of the paint' an old painter taught me. yes, these are not paints, i know plenty about that already. the attention to detail still makes the differance
Jason T
where to get PACE emulsion In Toronto? GTA
torch down baby for 20+ years oh yeah!
this narrator needs to be in audible night story telling, so I can fall sleep faster !!
Can we extend the life of a sloped asphalt shingle roof, by covering it with some kind of spray like this? My only concern is that the sprayed-on layer, if it ever became leaky, would trap water underneath itself.
I think this type of coating would be better under the shingles.
Intresting. What year was this?
We dont even mess up this badh here in Africa.
lol a 3 man crew can fix your roof in an 8 hour day? sounds like you might as well hire a roofing contractor to fix your roof
Any cold solutions,never worked.
I had my shingles replaced 12 years ago with 25 year shingles. Last year a few shingles on the sunny side started curling. Do I need to replace the whole roof or can the shingles just be repaired?
Curled shingles cannot be repaired, but you can remove and replace the area that is curling. With there being a 12 year difference, you may not be able to get the shingle colors to match easily.
Meanwhile my product "Douche bag in a can" never took off!
There is no way they are still in business. What a terrible idea.
my roof has 13 layers and it never leaks untill that damn rain wtf
My house was built in 1925 and has a tar and gravel roof. Tearing off the old roof is a major pain in the ass. I got quotes from roofers that were as high as 3/4 of what I paid for the entire house. Its now a diy project.
@@MrWadsox that's because it's a lot of work and its pitch tearing it off is gonna burn your skin and irritate ur eyes bad
the title sucks. there are good honest roofers out there. you just have to find them
Interesting. And to add a useless comment, next time I have a hole in my paper roof, I'll be sure to apply this stuff to it. 3:15 ;)
nice but this is the exposed finish too?
Not right-it needs to be dusted with a non skid mineral surface while it still has tack.
I think that's Compton, CA.
My roof doesn't leak until it rains.
Uploaded on 2008 ... technology of the 60's.....
right up there with spray foam urathane applications....lmao.
Try getting an HVAC contractor to service the equipment on that mess ,after 1 hour on that roof you'll go home looking like a piss ed off sasquatch ,your trucks interior wiped the fuck out ,leaves and twigs stuck to your steering wheel lmfao
their is white, gray, silver, blue, etc, roof coatings.
Is it still made though ??
Don't be fooled. The reason a roofer recommends a complete re-roof is there is no way to guarantee the work they do. The person who has the roofer look at the roof wants a guarantee when the roofer patches the roof. Only a fool would give a guarantee on a patch job that was performed. Roofer in a can is a complete joke. What kind of guarantee is this product giving the person that has the roof leaks?
+Best Quality Roofing and Chimney yea I've seen something like this used whenever those satiates for the T.V. Are installed and they still right into the roof lol
Almost every commercial NEW roof leaks! So what a load of dog-pile your theory is. Where I live we have a shopping centre that has a permanent roofing crew trying to stop all the leaks. A new roof will NOT stop this problem EVER!
@@richtradesman7080 say what
Never seen a good roofing product come out of a tin.
Warranty expires after 1st rain
a hundred years ago
HI there, These products of a one coat system is a joke, but the biggest joke is roofing contractors using outdated methods to fix roofs , I have seen time after time roofs leakings, and most of the time its roofers or the labors they seem to want to use to do there job, as roofing does take skill to truly understand the building envolope and I think most not all dont understand or are to cheap to properly roof a roof, the flashing is where most the leaks come from but are in my experience done with overkill that they need for those extreame strorms. flat roof seem to always leak and it always roof ing error , the ponding of water, or where thet rain can barley get off that flat roof so it runs on the fascia board hand rot that, but it seems mostlly roofing error as everybody just wants to hurry and get done, if you dont like your job, get in a different field. but you cant because this one pays better thats why they dont leave they dont know anything else and would have to start over in a new trade. So the flashing is most of the time never done with over kill from the way they do it now. and for flat roof useing tar and felt. that stuff never lasts very long its not water tight very long time.
what I recomend for falt roofs and is already used is a fiberglass roof water tight and last for at 50years plus as far a testing can tell just think of a bottom of a fiberglass boat on top of your roof covering it you know that the boat doesnt sink as its water tight that the way to go to permatly end you flat roof problems call around you will find some contractors doing that.and you can pick the color of roof.
ps go to the pacific islands and see the grass huts made from nature and guess what there roofs dont leak like ours do with using tar.based products we have so many leaks
with newer style houses still and every time with those is always roof error never done fully correct with the proper overkill that is needed just the bare minimum that the roofing suppler recommends, SO I don't blame all roofers as there are very very good roofers but they have to do what there told as the way the roof will be done and its mostly just the same old bare minimum way. so save money.
phoenix Az Terry
yes this is an old video from the 50's probable late
Hello there,
What do you think about this rood compund?
www.berger.com.mt/english/products_item.asp?View=Brand&BrandID=72&ProductID=79
Do you think it s a good solution which protects the roof ( which is made from stone ) or better liquid membrane?
Regards
Terry Thrower I have an early 1970's metal roof mobile home, what would be the recommended material to fix whole roof? What are all procedures to accomplish such task?
Also in Arizona the only code is what the manufacture suggests .
But again the main problem is flashing flashing flashing it's half the time never completely done adequately or in all areas needed an example is a fascia board rotting on a house that's only 10 years with the amount of rain in Arizona it's probably been getting wet from day one I'm tiled roofs in Arizona to make the tiles very close on the flashing where to roofs meet together called a valley they got the tile so tight in there the men that use or leave broken pieces of Kyle to prop up the cut tiles they don't have support from their cut in half so what happens is those pieces of tile using the size of the 50 cent piece work order getting the valley get stuck from all the other towels in the way now you have inadequate drainage you just down there Valley up it's very problematic as every almost every Roofer I've seen has some issues with the valley drainage because of the tile roofs for the way they have been installed then with a hard rain water sports - go left or right and not down the valley which then makes all the water started jumping on the tar paper membrane which is your last defense and should not be doing that if roofed correctly when the flashing exit the roof they cut it too short so it drips on the stucco house wall so using labors don't care or have no attention to detail or have no business doing roofing you need grilled you Roofer just to get the job done and done right and not cutting any corners has your roof is your main and only defense from water intrusion so why is it so hard to get that done correctly also in Arizona there is no inspection approved if there is its just random very random African had to be fermented and there will be money for inspectors to check these rooms to get them done right we have an ROC in the state register of contractors who want to enforce the contractors are doing their job correctly but they seem to have missed Roofing don't know why that is the main concern water intrusion mold water damage costly repairs is it really that hard to have inspectors for the roofs since they went to the state wants to release the contractor's what are not doing it on roofing or it's not enough to be noticed and make a difference in getting quality Roofing done there's a lot more still to talk about anybody's got any comments on their issues they've seen I would welcome it to bring light can almost epidemic problem
+Terry Thrower Nice job Terry. Thanks.
Thanks sorry for the typos was dictating while at subway and wanted to get that out to the public because it's a big deal as you will probable pay a roofer to fix the leak or water damage.
So have your roof checked by a sesonsed (mature ) roofing that is good and knows his trade forward and backwards takes years to see and learn from enough roofs what is right and what is not or marginal. And who's has a positive attitude some roofers didn't want to be in that trade and got stuck because of pay now there just a warm body going through the motions and not even concerned if they somthing wrong that's small . I seen saw marks on a tiled roof I guess the roofers were to lazy to put a board underneath that home had a dozens or so cuts on that roof. Yea it won't leak but your paying for a professional job charging the going rate . Next is cuts for the razor blade while there cutting the tar paper seem 2 or 3 in a 6x6 area recently with no repair done by them just a 1 or 2 inch slice right through your tar paper which is really keeps the rain out of home so if water gets under the concrete tiles usually for blowing storm and or a cracked tile which has direct exposure to the sun slowly drying out that area where it can crack the paper and or it breaks down like regular paper as the oils in the tar paper exposed to the sun has now dried out the area and hopefully if that wasn't the case the roofer who cut through the tar paper during installation and said cracked tile is in that area above it .
A good rain will show you a leak.
Conclusion have your roof inspected during and after installing when flashing is layed. First inspection and second inspection when roof installed and don't pay finally bill till after inspection, withhold 10 percent.
if I come apon this mess I am going to charge the owners of the building 4 times as much to do the roof because of the mess that has been done to the roof. and that stuff that they spread around the pipe flashing s what a mess
Is this from the '60s?
Roofs last a long time-if you don't walk on them.
they couldn't sell this to roofing contractors because it wasn't worth a **** so they opt for home owners that are easily influenced with the promise of spending very little to solve all there roofing woes,lol
And yet we keep building flat roofs
I think the guy just said that this is a three Mexican job. 6:28
Ha! will void and damage every roof type except modbit. and even then it is bad for your roof.
and did you just coat over the rock?
If I did a consult for that building owner id immediately tell him to call his lawyer. That's a major violation.
He conveniently failed to mention that it causes cancer.
RE - SET!! ROOFING NOTHING NEW
This is a wind up, right?!
This is completely ridiculous.
United Asphalt co. is better :)
its very good, you just have to do it every year as there is no life in blackjack its shit.
This is totaley a quick fix repair job, not a solution to a leaky roof. You would have to be stupid to think it is a total fix when you have NO IDEA what damage and mold you have underneath. I have no idea what this costs but i am sure it is not cheap, SO why waste your money on a temp fix unless you are a SLUMLORD trying to save money. I am not a roofer, but i would say get one...
wow its 2016 almost 17 get with the new age products...
i know, water-based elastomerics are gong to put the crunch on a lot of product manufacturers
I don't know where to begin....this sort of "fix" is pissing money away. I wouldn't do business with a client that wanted this type of nonsense. The building owner would be money ahead to just have a "tune up" done (recement all details, cut & 3 course any blistering and coat any leaking alligatoring) then have leaks repaired as they happen.
A "tune up" could be done for $6,000 to $7,000 on that building whereas this crap system would run $25,000 minimum and the results are the same...
look this vid : "THE REAL ROOFER "
click on the first vid
thats quality
You know he's a roofer by the labcoat.
Lmao I'm the best out there,
contest it and see nothing can slow me down or shake me. Metal, shingles, commercial, or flat I'm the best and still young enough to do it
+Daniel Coker your the best. lol. the best at what? your name says it all. lol
+Michael “Moses” Hammer I'm just amazing .
+Daniel Coker I believe you are good. I was jk you.
4 letters epdm
The truth is, this method WILL work...temporarily. However, it is extremely outdated, self-defeating, and not worth the time and effort. A quick example would be that it is similar to patching up a leaking bucket with duct tape. Although it does work, further leaks are usually (not always) inevitable because a new onset of leaks are a clear indication of a compromise in structural integrity. Wouldn't recommend...period (unless your a scumbag who is trying to sell a home to a buyer [victim] that is avoiding a proper fix for an easy buck).
junk...pure junk. i would never even bid on a tear off of this shit. the worst thing ever for real roofers.
i Think i need some more drugs the last lot dont seem to be working
dirtiest roofer I've ever seen, not a recommended roofer.
yeah, he says 'fiber glass' but in the 70's, most likely asbestos
@faffaflunkie
i thought he was a taco o_O
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Anyone who would Allow a Flat or Semi-Flat roof to be Built Over their Business is Two Bricks Shy of a Load.....The More Pitch, the Less Bitch when it comes to Leaks.....
is this even relevant now?
Not at all
This garbage is the same as snow coat & spray foam roofing ! If a REAL roofers says you need a new roof, take his advice . Quick fixes do not work .
didn't Pace go bankrupt over this crap ????
one who builds a house or a building with a flat roof is not a very smart contractor because water has to have a slight angle to run off if you make a roof that's flat and it catches water in puddles you're a fool
That shit is garbage. It might last a few years but eventually you will have to replace your roof
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......
Scrape it and prime it then torch down a new 1 ply torch cap right over it. And bang 15 to 20 years more of cheaping out on a new roof. LOL.
hahahahaah joke if its so bad let me replace it dont patch a turd fix it cuz ur whole life is under it
My Ass, give me a break
Boring & no good info
hahah lol...thats not roofing....they are painters.....and it looks like shit... how many garanty do you have to give ?... if a roof is 15 20 years old..... and it looks like crap..rebild..or one layer on top... all the details have to be renewed.. than you have a perfect roof an you can be proud.. (sorry for my english...im dutch)
Blah, blah, blah... Pace dose not want contactors to tell the truth. Roof it once. Roof it right. This looks out dated. Goin over the Top with TPO would take half the time this video took lol
Is this from the '50s?
No 70ies. Pace had been around since 1974. The roofs show here were most likely Pitch (coal tar Bituminous) & slag 40 to 60 years old. In the 50ies oil companies wanted something that acted like Pitch (self sealed when the sun came out) So they blew steam through asphalt. It was marketed as Dead Level Asphalt because it acted like pitch for the first 2 years, then leaked. Anyone tell you to spay anything on your roof is a thief. These should have been torn off, and a good 4 ply roof put in it's place.