You can always make something out of nothing. There's over 1700 minutes of Star vs. This is a 3 minute video. That means .0013% of the show was devoted to Tom and Marco.
@@wonder1440 Did you even read the text at the beginning of the video before spamming Tomco hate in every reply? It says *imagine* that they are in love in the out of context scenes, and that they are aware that all of these moments are canonically in a Starco context
I mean..he did have chemistry with star...its just they kept FORCING star and marco to speed run to each other which made it less natural and awkward compared to if they just..werent into each other romantically at first at all and if teh show had treated the other relationships properly and let them run their course...plus ...honestly star and tom had felt like they had gotten stronger at the end before the breakup so the breakup had felt awkward..especially when they never really showed marco and kelly dating properly or breaking up after seeing him and kelly get together
they had good chemistry, but they force them to be lovers instead of actual genuine best friends. i was so excited to see more of them cause of that dynamic, i thought we could have more boy-girl tandem that isn't lovers trope. but nope, they have to do that.
@@Thesmus honestly if they wanted star and marco to be endgame they should have done what kim possible did. treat the times they had romantic interest in others with respect and seriously, let that play out properly while letting them be best friends.
Tbf, there's a difference between confirming Star is bi outside of the show (though the scene implying it was there and no hate to the creators on this, it was intentionally made to have reasonable deniability to not piss of homophobic parents) and having two main male characters get together at the end. I'm really glad people are starting to talk about the double standard of mlm relationships not getting as much obvious rep as wlw, (saw two videos on it in my yt reccs today), because obviously, I am SO happy for the wlw ships we're getting but it sucks that we can't get that for mlm ships, too.@@Huh9631
Ikr, he wasn’t even like, “How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends?” no, just straig-….never mind, just Marco immediately.Btw I absolutely HATE that Disney cancelled tomco, ‘cause it was supposed to be canon.
@@wonder1440 hey, what's your deal? you replied for a good amount of tomco comments outa here. why do you care about what others think of them so much?
@marchuuk Because Marco can't be gay and it ties into his Turdina alter ego. The character was designed to show boys they can feel emotions like compassion and sympathy and still be heterosexual boys. It's stereotypes that he's breaking because people look at things and label them. Even this video has to take things out of context to make something out of nothing.
The ship Tomco only clicked for me as a concept when Tom told Star (during their breakup) that he wanted to date "someone he could be best friends with." Marco was such an attractive harem protagonist that he charmed his main love interest's BOYFRIEND. If Tom was "Tamara" instead, then "Tamco" might have been a canon ship for a bit.
I have no idea how I managed to watch this show my entire childhood with only realizing recently, after SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, just how… gay these two were. Like, obviously, they were never together, but this is some serious bromance practically pleading to have the fandom ship this xDD
So based on these clips we can safely say that Tom has a crush on marco and is trying really hard to hide it. 2:43 from this clip alone he clearly hesitaded
I actually head cannon that they had a crush on each other but they either never realized it or Marco just felt like that world wanted him with star and so he went with that
@@lupinforestgreen7614 Tomco was never planned. Where do you come up with this? Less than 1% of the show had Tom/Marco interaction. There's more Marco/Janna interaction
@@wonder1440 I made my comment in the spirit of "X walked so Y could run." Or rather: Tomco never got its chance to shine so that Lumity could break the mold. Tom and Marco had fantastic chemistry when they interacted with each other and in my opinion could have been couple goals had their potential been explored. There's nothing wrong with Starco but mutual attraction aside their dynamic always seemed more like platonic besties and occasionally siblings to me.
2:07 literally me in this moment (can we talk about how tom say "i should be dating someone i could be best friends with" and in the next second ", you- you're my best friend" to marco, i just need to someone talk about it 😭)
2:53 Marco didn’t deny anything. He only changed the subject since he was clearly embarrassed. Tom didn’t say anything because, in my opinion, he was worried that his crush on Marco was obvious.
Not gonna lie: personally, I wouldn't mind this outcome. A sense of purity through progression strikes between these 2, so I can't really sit here and be like "that ain't happening." Perhaps not originally, but imaginarily.
This is the only time I’ve seen a love triangle in a show and thought “Yep, they should just be poly together.” They’re already both kissing star, and Tom definitely seems like he has a thing for Marco. The only thing left is : does Marco have a thing for Tom? I actually think he might. Idk maybe I’m just making assumptions.
Honestly would have been better than starco, disney rlly forced the romance with them it felt awkward and tbh star doesn't seem the type to even be in a relationship. I can see her trying to rule alone and only "marrying" to have an heir but other than that she just seems too wild to ever wanna settle down Tomco although probably wouldn't be as good as any of us hope (bc the show doesn't know how to write relationships) would have at least a fun dynamic. Tom and Marco seem the most compatible bc Tom eventually actually sees Marco as an equal and treats him well and Marco seems to be the only one that can get through to Tom
@@willowparkeditssMarco is basically a Chad. This is a 3 minute out of context video. There were over 1700 minutes of Star made. This is 0.001% of the show.
I think Marco, Tom, and Star shouldve been in a poly relationship. They all had really good chemistry with each other and its a shame to see Tom left out. It also sucks that Marco never got to be transfem. He originally supposed to be trans but they didnt let it happen :(
Although transfem rep would be nice, I do honestly do like that Marco can dress feminine, as a woman without him being seen as less of a man. (This is partially because I am a cis women who likes to dress up as a man sometimes, and it makes me uncomfortable when people say I am not “feminine” or “womanly” enough, though I am a woman and comfortable with it, and I do dress up feminine rest of the time.) HARD agree with you on the poly ship, their trio moments were so good! They have such great chemistry, All of them really just love each other, even if it is canonically only platonically.
Actually I really like that Tom and Marco have such a fantastic BROmance instead of ROmance. We need more sincere platonic relationships in the media. If you love a person it doesn't mean this can only be romantic or erotic. Love is love, love for a sibling and for a friend can be as beautiful as romantic.
I’m in a weird place where I ship stomco (star x Tom x Marco) but I don’t ship any of their individual relationships. (I mean, i did love star x Tom, but it was ruined whenever star got super longing for Marco). I need them, and love them, as a trio. Beach episode? Peak. The three of them together, their hugs, are just so cute. It’s really great, because I can always watch these videos and pretend the third person is just off doing something else at the current time. Anyway, this is fun, love the video.
Thing is any relationship with Tom is great cause the character development star and Marco is bad cause their relationship feels weird and like Aphrodite trying to hard to get them together
I don't see this show, I'll probably never do it, I don't know anything about it but it was on my recomendations, and if you tell me this guys are not dating you're not only lying to me, you are lying to yourselves
Tom is still basically in teenage years. Marco will just die first if age was the cause of his death. Star should also live longer than Marco now that I think about it
"It's cool if you... and your best friend..." *cut scene* "YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND"
You can always make something out of nothing. There's over 1700 minutes of Star vs. This is a 3 minute video. That means .0013% of the show was devoted to Tom and Marco.
@@wonder1440 Did you even read the text at the beginning of the video before spamming Tomco hate in every reply? It says *imagine* that they are in love in the out of context scenes, and that they are aware that all of these moments are canonically in a Starco context
@@wonder1440if ur homophobic, just say that lmao
PLOTED FROM THE BEGINNING
2:13 “I feel like I should be dating someone who I can be best friends with.” “I’m not leaving you! You’re my best friend”
0:44 “SAY I’M A GOOD BOYFRIEND!” “NEVER!!” will always be my favourite quote because it’s just so hilarious out of context
definitely my favorite out of context moment lmao
Also kinda dark when you think about it
Yea Definitely and in a way make me think of (❤tomco❤)
I just realised that without context A LOT of moments are seen as Tomco
Alot of it even with context is still tomco
@@flowerteapot-zy3ouyup
Don't you just love how Marco had better chemistry with nearly every other character he interacted with than with Star?
I mean..he did have chemistry with star...its just they kept FORCING star and marco to speed run to each other which made it less natural and awkward compared to if they just..werent into each other romantically at first at all and if teh show had treated the other relationships properly and let them run their course...plus ...honestly star and tom had felt like they had gotten stronger at the end before the breakup so the breakup had felt awkward..especially when they never really showed marco and kelly dating properly or breaking up after seeing him and kelly get together
they had good chemistry, but they force them to be lovers instead of actual genuine best friends. i was so excited to see more of them cause of that dynamic, i thought we could have more boy-girl tandem that isn't lovers trope. but nope, they have to do that.
@@Thesmus honestly if they wanted star and marco to be endgame they should have done what kim possible did. treat the times they had romantic interest in others with respect and seriously, let that play out properly while letting them be best friends.
Star came off as so Aromantic with comphet ngl
This
"Ooo the love birds finally showed up"
"Um are we doingg the jump or what...."
Just from these clips, it makes me convinced that Tomco was their original intention, but scrapped it in fear of audience backlash.
Pretty ironic given that Starco became canon and, yeah I'm sure you probably know what happened
I think it’s more so that Disney just didn’t let them do it
It’s not that because star is actually bi, it’s cuz the fandom shipped starco
Tbf, there's a difference between confirming Star is bi outside of the show (though the scene implying it was there and no hate to the creators on this, it was intentionally made to have reasonable deniability to not piss of homophobic parents) and having two main male characters get together at the end. I'm really glad people are starting to talk about the double standard of mlm relationships not getting as much obvious rep as wlw, (saw two videos on it in my yt reccs today), because obviously, I am SO happy for the wlw ships we're getting but it sucks that we can't get that for mlm ships, too.@@Huh9631
Yeah, personally, and don't come after me. Starci feels stiff and forced, I personally think that tomco would've worked better.
That last one cannot be explained, they could've denied it but they didn't 💀
1:10 it’s so funny how casually Tom puts himself in the situation of kissing Marco without being weird about it
Ikr, he wasn’t even like, “How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends?” no, just straig-….never mind, just Marco immediately.Btw I absolutely HATE that Disney cancelled tomco, ‘cause it was supposed to be canon.
"How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends? Like... Marco? Later today? Like, after this conversation?"
@@Montesama314 at this point he's just saying "mom said it's my turn on the xbox."
Not sure if "funny" is the right word, maybe "amazing".
For me, this is the confirmation that Tom is not straight (and that he and Marco should kiss)
2:55
Okay but neither Marco nor Tom denied it...
Marco did. He was obviously not happy with what Talon said.
@@wonder1440 ??? No, he was just embarrassed. I hated it when people kept calling me and my future boyfriend gay
@@wonder1440 he looks embarrassed
@@wonder1440 hey, what's your deal? you replied for a good amount of tomco comments outa here. why do you care about what others think of them so much?
@marchuuk Because Marco can't be gay and it ties into his Turdina alter ego. The character was designed to show boys they can feel emotions like compassion and sympathy and still be heterosexual boys. It's stereotypes that he's breaking because people look at things and label them. Even this video has to take things out of context to make something out of nothing.
The ship Tomco only clicked for me as a concept when Tom told Star (during their breakup) that he wanted to date "someone he could be best friends with."
Marco was such an attractive harem protagonist that he charmed his main love interest's BOYFRIEND.
If Tom was "Tamara" instead, then "Tamco" might have been a canon ship for a bit.
SAY IT LOUDER!!!! (Plus the homophoic ppl that rule d*sn*y made the whole show a fucking trash when they forced starco.)
Shout out to the one guy who said "I like this", a true homie
His tone cracks me up every time.
Damn Tom is more down bad for Marco than I remember
I know right
A funny thing is that Tomco was supposed to be Cannon but Disney didn't accept that
I HATE DISNEY FOR THIS SO MUCH 😢
Really? Where did u find this stuff out? I’ve heard people say it but I’ve never seen where the info comes from
@@Kind_King127-yz5hs from google i looked up if tomco was supposed to be cannon and turns out it was
@@ImnotTHATlonely "Google" just told you? What website?
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 One of the show writers comment on a tweet
"If I had kissed Marco..." - Tom
Just make out already
Fr
I have no idea how I managed to watch this show my entire childhood with only realizing recently, after SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, just how… gay these two were. Like, obviously, they were never together, but this is some serious bromance practically pleading to have the fandom ship this xDD
Honestly, I feel like they would be super aggressive boyfriends who secretly love each other. Tomco is (in my opinion) better than Starco. ❤️
Agreed (until the episode where they Canonically made Marco a grown man 😌)
Watching these two together made me realize more than ever that I'm a Tomco stan
I can understand that
So based on these clips we can safely say that Tom has a crush on marco and is trying really hard to hide it.
2:43 from this clip alone he clearly hesitaded
I actually head cannon that they had a crush on each other but they either never realized it or Marco just felt like that world wanted him with star and so he went with that
@@billykaplan9915 yes that's kinda how i see it too i just believed it for so much time i forgot it was just a headcanon
I thought the same thing when Tom said "Say I'm a good boyfriend"
Fun fact: tomco was suppose to be cannon but Disney cancelled it
Why would that cancel it. Tomco is amazing
I hate Disney now
W disney
@@scrumbo_07 what do u mean with that
I'm canceling, and sue the heck out of disney
Me when I see Tomco: 2:07
THEY MADE LUMITY CANON, WHY NOT TOMOCO 😭😭😭
YESSSS THIS IS BREAKING MY HEART💔
It was different back then ig
Tomco bled and died on the sacrificial pyre so Lumity could soar.
@@lupinforestgreen7614 Tomco was never planned. Where do you come up with this? Less than 1% of the show had Tom/Marco interaction. There's more Marco/Janna interaction
@@wonder1440 I made my comment in the spirit of "X walked so Y could run." Or rather: Tomco never got its chance to shine so that Lumity could break the mold. Tom and Marco had fantastic chemistry when they interacted with each other and in my opinion could have been couple goals had their potential been explored. There's nothing wrong with Starco but mutual attraction aside their dynamic always seemed more like platonic besties and occasionally siblings to me.
2:07 literally me in this moment (can we talk about how tom say "i should be dating someone i could be best friends with" and in the next second ", you- you're my best friend" to marco, i just need to someone talk about it 😭)
ДА! ДА ДА ДА
exactly, everything hints to Tom liking Marco, he was the one to actually helped Tom become a better person in the 2 season!!!
NO BUT THAT EP WHERE THEY SANG A SONG TOGETHER OF THEIR FAV GROUP ALL SAD AND EMO... DAMN THAT SCENE CAN'T GET OUT OF MY MIND
2:23-2:30 Uh-uh. Pull it back, Marco. Pull it back.
I swear tomo is so underrated
Tomco
SAY
IM A GOOD BOYFRIEND
*NEVEER*
I love that especially the way marco says never lol
2:53 Marco didn’t deny anything. He only changed the subject since he was clearly embarrassed. Tom didn’t say anything because, in my opinion, he was worried that his crush on Marco was obvious.
😳возможно
Good god they have so much chemistry-
Not gonna lie: personally, I wouldn't mind this outcome. A sense of purity through progression strikes between these 2, so I can't really sit here and be like "that ain't happening." Perhaps not originally, but imaginarily.
if only disney wasn't homophobic
Not me squealing like a little girl who just got twice the amount of Christmas presents than before 🤭
This is the only time I’ve seen a love triangle in a show and thought “Yep, they should just be poly together.” They’re already both kissing star, and Tom definitely seems like he has a thing for Marco. The only thing left is : does Marco have a thing for Tom? I actually think he might. Idk maybe I’m just making assumptions.
Is this the universe's way of telling me to check for them on ao3 again?
I’m not 100% sure but i think that tomco was cannon but disney didn’t allow it
THEY WERE GONNA DO IT- WHY DIDNT THEYYYYY OMNGMG
bc disney is homophobic 😔
I feel like they have better chemistry--
Чел...? Ты говоришь факты
You say what if, but deep in my heart I know they are canon, even if Disney refuses to acknowledge them. 😤
I love so much the "SAY I'M A GOOD BOYFRIEND" one xD
Ok but if the “ say I’m a good boyfriend” scene was meant for Tom o it would be sooooo adorable OMG
I love ur edits on tiktok lol
awww thank you!!
2:06 all tomco stans after watching this video:
I really hate Starco. It’s the worst relationship of the entire show, Tomco and Jarco are 🔛🔝
0:30 RWAWEE👿
2:10 bruuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh That chemistry brotherly bind
Also either way Tomco would either be canon or one sided
0:39 Me to Marco : u wish that was you huh?
queer rep: omg!!! i like boys but... I'm a boy??? >////<
queerbait:
litterally was the healthiest relationship T^T
best thing I’ve ever seen, I used to be a tomco fan when the show first came out and now I’m becoming one again 😭
I really like Tomco as a whole
Honestly would have been better than starco, disney rlly forced the romance with them it felt awkward and tbh star doesn't seem the type to even be in a relationship. I can see her trying to rule alone and only "marrying" to have an heir but other than that she just seems too wild to ever wanna settle down
Tomco although probably wouldn't be as good as any of us hope (bc the show doesn't know how to write relationships) would have at least a fun dynamic. Tom and Marco seem the most compatible bc Tom eventually actually sees Marco as an equal and treats him well and Marco seems to be the only one that can get through to Tom
“I like this.” -Me
tomco and startomco are my favs honestly. I also liked the potential of a few other marco ships. god, he just has chemistry with everyone 😭💀
Tomco walked so Lumity could RUN
(i love them all)
TRUE OMGGG
Apparently they are both bi
yeah they give those vibes
@@willowparkeditssMarco is basically a Chad. This is a 3 minute out of context video. There were over 1700 minutes of Star made. This is 0.001% of the show.
@@wonder1440 Uh, yeah, we get it, Starco is canon...but what do you mean Marco is a chad?
@@_k33l4n_I mean Marco had the whole cast loving him
@@wonder1440Starco sucks
I think Marco, Tom, and Star shouldve been in a poly relationship. They all had really good chemistry with each other and its a shame to see Tom left out.
It also sucks that Marco never got to be transfem. He originally supposed to be trans but they didnt let it happen :(
Although transfem rep would be nice, I do honestly do like that Marco can dress feminine, as a woman without him being seen as less of a man. (This is partially because I am a cis women who likes to dress up as a man sometimes, and it makes me uncomfortable when people say I am not “feminine” or “womanly” enough, though I am a woman and comfortable with it, and I do dress up feminine rest of the time.)
HARD agree with you on the poly ship, their trio moments were so good! They have such great chemistry, All of them really just love each other, even if it is canonically only platonically.
“I like this”
Me:I like this as well my good sir😂😂
Seeing this edit made me think Tomco was cannon, ... in a hidden way.
they wouldve been such a fun relationship. We deserved them 😭
Tomco shpuld have been endgame
Starco vs Startom vs Tomco? Lol, no!
Startomco! All of them! All three!
2:53 Oh wow
nah after seeing the last scene i realized how gay these guys are
"THAT DANCE WAS MEANT FOR ME"👺
"Hey that dance was meant for me - aaaa I'm just kidding"😂
i wish they realized polyamory was a thing
Tomco is canon it got to be 😢😢😢😢😢😢
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Wattpad is my friend 🤝
Upgrade that to Archive of Our Own soon but at your own pace ofc. I dislike the ads on wattpad nowadays
@@avourrito1819THERE’S ADS?
okay but hear me out; startomco
Мне нравится эти двое❤жаль они все таки не стали каноном😅
I haven't even seen one whole episode and I actually tougth this was canon
2:08 “I like this.😠”
Disney is homophobic yeah, marco was supposed to be trans too, all the characters are canonically bi
I still Ship them😼
Best bromance 😊 and I do kinda ship it ❤
Wouldn't be the first time that Rider Strong played a character who had a bromance with his best friend
I mean, this relationship had more spark and dimension to it than Star and Marco had.
2:08 I agree with you
Actually I really like that Tom and Marco have such a fantastic BROmance instead of ROmance. We need more sincere platonic relationships in the media. If you love a person it doesn't mean this can only be romantic or erotic. Love is love, love for a sibling and for a friend can be as beautiful as romantic.
Время проходит а это до сих пор мой любимый корабль
1:53 YASSS
okay though just to start some drama (/j)
the better ship name is mom
0:18 and Marco
When i started the series i always saw Marco and Star as siblings... They ruined it for me 😭😭😭😭
THISS!!! BUT STARCO SHIPPERS LITERALLY HATE ME IF I SAY THAT!! 😭😭😭
Star/Tom/Marco should've been a triad you can't change my mind
OMG I just realized Yon reminds me of Zuko
WHERE IS THE CLIP WHERE THEY SING FOR THE FIRST TIMEEEE
I’m in a weird place where I ship stomco (star x Tom x Marco) but I don’t ship any of their individual relationships. (I mean, i did love star x Tom, but it was ruined whenever star got super longing for Marco). I need them, and love them, as a trio. Beach episode? Peak. The three of them together, their hugs, are just so cute. It’s really great, because I can always watch these videos and pretend the third person is just off doing something else at the current time. Anyway, this is fun, love the video.
Tom say to star lf l kiss marco ❤❤ Tomco
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK I LOVEIT
It's so weird listening to the original dubbing. Idk, the brazilian dubbing just fits so perfectly...
Tomco is sm better than starco or startom
Thing is any relationship with Tom is great cause the character development star and Marco is bad cause their relationship feels weird and like Aphrodite trying to hard to get them together
0:46 cannon😊
I don't see this show, I'll probably never do it, I don't know anything about it but it was on my recomendations, and if you tell me this guys are not dating you're not only lying to me, you are lying to yourselves
@@outsider186 absolutely
This comment is gold
I perfer tomco
THIS IS SO OUT OF CONTEXT 😭
I haven't seen stuff from the show for so long I've forgotten the context and can confirm without context this looks very gay-
Tomco would have been great, if one of them wasn't much older than the other. Still better than Starco. And Tom deserves way better than Star.
Tom is still basically in teenage years. Marco will just die first if age was the cause of his death. Star should also live longer than Marco now that I think about it
@@avourrito1819 Tom is 16, Marco is 30+ can't you see the problem?
it should have been them
I swerved the last season so in my head there’s not much proof it isn’t canon