@@Cookie34558 Yet he doesn't count as a monster. Why, kingdom against monsters, there should be a few alright with bull frog since he helped their queen and princess to fight toffee, but the queen didn't moment him.
Personalmente no lo veo asi, tom merecia a alguien mejor, star solo lo uso para olvidar su enamoramiento a marco y aparte de eso ella le fue infiel, quien rayos sigue saliendo con alguien que le fue infiel y encima sabiendo que es persona no te ama? Tom era mucho para star, ninguno de los ships es realmente bueno, ni starco ni tomstar, habria hasta preferido que el tomco fuera canon en vez de esos 2 ships
@@fircuariux6820 I see your point and I agree. But also, imo, if they didn’t have her use Tom as a rebound and made her actually grow like she seemed to be doing, it would’ve been a great development
@@fircuariux6820 Unfortunately, they're teens, and teens do stupid stuff. From what I recall of what Star said about their relationship before and the fact that Tom went through that anger management, my guess is Tom screwed up majorly in their relationship before with Star. So imo they are just not good for each other as a couple. Starco seem to grow together, but it's still a little off. then again, they are still teens.
That's gotta be bafflingly insane if you were given birth by a Giant that's a sheer size of a Kaiju with a Human partner, how the flying 😈 sauce does that work exactly?
I didn't expect her husband to be a Dave. I love her tho she's the best version of a demon parent. And is a nice refresher from the stereotype demon parent. And their relationship 10/10 😘
I love Tom's family so so much. His dad and mum have a great relationship and they really love him. I'd love to know how his parents got together. His mum seems to be the type who have a simmering anger while his dad is like a small volcano. Seeing his dad sitting on his mums knee is just so sweet.
@@ajstudios9210 i think its how non demon language speakers interprets the language. Its a full language, not just “grunts and screeches”. They and we dont understand a single word so this is how its shown.
Hyperpoint: she just never said a single line in human language. She spoke clearly in her language which isn’t mainstream esp since demons are looked down upon by mew people and earthlings
@@fircuariux6820 have you ever seen the short animation “Satina” we’ll basically it’s the daughter of a giant demon named Lucia and oddly enough the father is a human named Dave who lives the normal life and has an office job😂
It always weirded me out how this was perfectly fine but Eclipsa doing the same thing wasn’t. It’s not like they totally swept it under the rug because they definitely had a scene somewhere where someone mistook Tom for a monster and it got swept under the rug once they knew it was Tom I guess
+Maximum Overdrive You're absolutely right. Plus, Mewnie is FULL of inhuman creatures wandering around! o_o Some of which are upperclass, too! It's broken, unfair, and makes no sense.
I remember sawing that on an episode, Star literally use that point to prove that they were acting wrong and her mother said that it was basically cause they were rich
I feel like its mainly due to the fact Eclipsa was the heir to the throne, if she was just a commoner like Mina they probably wouldn't have gave a shit much
Not sure what you're talking about. She and Tom are on good terms at the end of the series. I agree that him breaking up with her felt a little forced but they felt like natural friends after
I always wondered if Tom’s mother was related to Globgor, considering he was supposedly the “King” of monsters, would that make Tom’s mother Globor’s Great (Great?) Grand Neice or something?
@@massacremark6782 But wasn’t Tom HALF monster?, didn’t he say so in his speech about getting stared at in a elevator? From what I remember his father looked Mewman or Mewman sub-race like Piefolk or whatever King River was.
@@cwa728 yeah but when Star confronts her mom about the monster situation, she classifies demons as a separate species, maybe it has to do with class or kingdom.
@@massacremark6782 Maybe it’s like the Piefolk and Swamfolk, they’re both Mewmans but just different races of Mewman. Like how here on earth we have different races of Humans, they are of the same species, just a different race of the same species. Demons appear to be higher in the nobility chain, while Ludo’s family are more of Barons than Kings. Barons and Baronesses being peasants being given titles of nobility rather than being born into it, like a Duke or Duchess being a direct sibling to the King or Queen, or a Viscount or Viscountess, Count or Countess, Lord or Lady, ect.
Is Tom a monster though? I thought his species was demon, though I know Tom once talked about being mistaken for a monster, and admitted that he couldn't see what the big difference was between monster and demon.
Still can't understand HOW ON EARTH TOM WAS BORN?! I mean. His mum is A GIANT DEMON and his dad is...a human...You know. I don't want to understand that. It's kinda like Eclipsa and Globgor with Meteora. You know what I mean. P.S. Ok. I remembered that Globgor can change size, but I can't understand how Meteora was born healthy. Even with tail, with a father's ability change size...maybe. Because it is still controversial.
globgorn can shift his size anyway, so not a big deal of how they "made" Now Dave and Wrathmelior? I mean its possible, maybe Dave has another D beyond the one of his name
Probably kinda angry given her son got ditched, forgotten, and immediately moved on from by star :/ She hated his mistreatment and yet star still kept it up.
Hobestly his mother was great, she knew his girlfriend sucked and only made him miserable, in almost every single photo he either has a painful memory and only she is happy about things or he is visibly unhappy. Tom was wayyyh to good for Star; he knew he had problems and he tried to better himself, and honestly they were both toxic in the relationship but Star, on the other hand always made Tom angry because she never cared much about his feelings, or reciprocated them, and in return he ended up pissed off. His mother knee he wasn't happy with her, but still respected his decision even though she HATED his girlfriend. I can't imagine this woman's happiness once she found out he was the one thaf dumped her this time. Lol
damn i wish she growled at least once in the lava episode like at the start. they changed her voice and didnt explain it but they couldve saved it if they just showed she has range
You gotta wonder how the hell was tom born his mother is this massive demon and his dad is this small squishy human how was that even possible? Like I can understand globgor and eclipsa because he can change his size though maybe it's the same for wrathmelior and dave? maybe wrath can change her size to? since she's a monster I could see this being a thing that only legendary monsters of a royal bloodline can do? since globgor is the king of all monsters and wrathmelior is a demon queen so I wouldn't be surprised that the underworld has it's own form of magic that would allow human demon conception
i honestly wish Star stayed with Tom- TomStar is one of my fave ships 😭 i especially wish Marco got with Kennya? (kenny??) i forgot her name but it for sure started with a K
DUDE!!! How are the moomans SO hypocritical?!?? (Also, why did it take me till the end of the series to notice 😅) Having a giant, monstrous spouse is fine, unless you're a naughty queen who speaks her mind and uses your ancestral magic in the way you see fit??
Anyone feel like something like this happened between these two? th-cam.com/video/8LCot-MyCKM/w-d-xo.html Extra: th-cam.com/video/dO-WkzZMQoY/w-d-xo.html
I'm so curious as to whether Tom's dad is a mewman or a human. I mean, I guess you can look at Tom’s familiarity with earth culture-listening to Love Sentence, having a vague awareness of action movies and earthly junk food-as evidence that his dad’s from earth and maybe encouraged him to develop an interest in these things as a way of connecting with his earth heritage. But at the same time, it’s suggested that Tom’s kingdom might be linked to earth’s afterlife as well, so he might have learn about them from people who had passed on from earth. Either way, I’m really curious.
Hilarious that Tom's mom despite being a raging demon of the Underworld is more chill then he ever was.
That means that his temper came from his dad.
There was a comic made by a fan.....the dad was a raging mess, apparently the human appearance was disguise
@@NAVEMAN3 makes sense, humans are hateful little angry apes the majority of the time.
@@GateOfShadows Link?
th-cam.com/video/Zdsf80ztZ7k/w-d-xo.html
Sadly is in Spanish and apparently is from the TOMCO section of the fanfic
I like how she knew ahead of time that Star cheated on Tom. She really looks out for her son.
Wait Star cheated on Tom? Since when and with who?
@@YoungSmiggles marco
@@samuraibear5102 Oh, that should’ve been obvious? What did they do again?
@@YoungSmiggles kissed at the photobooth during a wedding ep
If the one cheating were Tom, he would had a massive cancel party and probably being axed from the series
I love that she kind of purrs when she’s happy. That’s cute lol.
Made my hear go 😩💝💝💝🥲
I love how dave is the temperamental one and the wife is the emotional one
And tom is both
I like that Tom is like his father and mother at the same time
He’s half human and half monster
@@oziswag3260 He's a demon
@@Cookie34558 close but yeah
That's kinda how children work
@@Cookie34558 Yet he doesn't count as a monster. Why, kingdom against monsters, there should be a few alright with bull frog since he helped their queen and princess to fight toffee, but the queen didn't moment him.
They messed all up separating Star and Tom, and Marco and Jackie to make Starco canon. I mean, LOOK AT THEM, THIS IS AWESOME
Personalmente no lo veo asi, tom merecia a alguien mejor, star solo lo uso para olvidar su enamoramiento a marco y aparte de eso ella le fue infiel, quien rayos sigue saliendo con alguien que le fue infiel y encima sabiendo que es persona no te ama? Tom era mucho para star, ninguno de los ships es realmente bueno, ni starco ni tomstar, habria hasta preferido que el tomco fuera canon en vez de esos 2 ships
@@fircuariux6820 EXACTAMENTE. Tom merece mejor 😔
@@fircuariux6820 I see your point and I agree. But also, imo, if they didn’t have her use Tom as a rebound and made her actually grow like she seemed to be doing, it would’ve been a great development
I know 😩❤️
@@fircuariux6820 Unfortunately, they're teens, and teens do stupid stuff. From what I recall of what Star said about their relationship before and the fact that Tom went through that anger management, my guess is Tom screwed up majorly in their relationship before with Star. So imo they are just not good for each other as a couple. Starco seem to grow together, but it's still a little off. then again, they are still teens.
I wonder if she even knew she was pregnant with Tom or did she sneeze one day and he popped out 😂
Most likely the last 😅
LMAO
DON'T SAY THAT WITH NO WARNING🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That is some Greek god stuff.
That's gotta be bafflingly insane if you were given birth by a Giant that's a sheer size of a Kaiju with a Human partner, how the flying 😈 sauce does that work exactly?
I didn't expect her husband to be a Dave.
I love her tho she's the best version of a demon parent.
And is a nice refresher from the stereotype demon parent. And their relationship 10/10 😘
I find its like Tad Strange situation
yeah stereotypes
are misleading
Which makes it a nice quirk
😂😂
That’s the luckiest man on the universe
Surprised she didn't crush Toms father to make Tom haha.
*S N U S N U*
IT TIME SNU SNU!
“The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised”
@@MrRepoman197 I wonder if he was on top to avoid getting crushed 😭
"MY DAUGHTER IS A DELICATE FLOWER"
Star: 😐😒😐
Hskskdjd
I love Tom's family so so much. His dad and mum have a great relationship and they really love him. I'd love to know how his parents got together. His mum seems to be the type who have a simmering anger while his dad is like a small volcano. Seeing his dad sitting on his mums knee is just so sweet.
Ironically, despite being a raging demon, this woman is one of the best moms in the series.
Way better than Moon's dusty behind.😒
SHe's not really Ranging, she seems able to handle her own emitions.
Her husband on the other hand.
I mean she seems to have resting wrath face but seems relatively chill.
wrathmelior is the best character in the show and she hasnt even said a single line
She does. She just screeches and grunts. She speaks her own language.
@@ajstudios9210 i think its how non demon language speakers interprets the language. Its a full language, not just “grunts and screeches”. They and we dont understand a single word so this is how its shown.
Hyperpoint: she just never said a single line in human language. She spoke clearly in her language which isn’t mainstream esp since demons are looked down upon by mew people and earthlings
A single line that we can understand.
Why does every giant demoness seem to have a human husband named Dave this has happened twice 💀
With who?
Humans named Dave like giant demon sex.
WHAT
@@fircuariux6820 have you ever seen the short animation “Satina” we’ll basically it’s the daughter of a giant demon named Lucia and oddly enough the father is a human named Dave who lives the normal life and has an office job😂
YOU KNOW SATINA
It always weirded me out how this was perfectly fine but Eclipsa doing the same thing wasn’t. It’s not like they totally swept it under the rug because they definitely had a scene somewhere where someone mistook Tom for a monster and it got swept under the rug once they knew it was Tom I guess
+Maximum Overdrive You're absolutely right. Plus, Mewnie is FULL of inhuman creatures wandering around! o_o Some of which are upperclass, too! It's broken, unfair, and makes no sense.
I remember sawing that on an episode, Star literally use that point to prove that they were acting wrong and her mother said that it was basically cause they were rich
I would have loved to have seen more of both couples' stories thb. There's a lot to be curious about.
Mmmm good point. I didn’t really think about that
I feel like its mainly due to the fact Eclipsa was the heir to the throne, if she was just a commoner like Mina they probably wouldn't have gave a shit much
“Hi Dave”
“Hey”
most normal reaction in the show lol.
Isn’t it weird how toms mom is a huge big demon while his dad is just a small human looking guy
thats what ppl said about my mini german shepards, the moms was a german shepherd and the dad a chiwawa, but life finds a way
@@railroadverdigo1665 if there is a hole there is a goal
How it was done is a question I don't think I want answered.
Man of culture
De hecho hay un cómic en chochox que lo explica 🍷
I respect Dave so much
I'm just gonna forget Starco ever happened and Tomstar is how it ended 😌
Tomstar was the best ship created.
@@TaliaShire098 agreed 😌
@@chirouvu till this day, I'm hoping someday, we'll be able to create our own season ending for them 😭
Tomco is better
@@user-zs9ux1ru8u that's also true xD; honestly, Starco is just better best friends than anything happening to them ffs.
4:05 The cry of his mother screaming his name. "Thomas!!"
shame how the series with star obviously ending up on bad terms with the clearly forced shipping and breakup?.
Not sure what you're talking about. She and Tom are on good terms at the end of the series. I agree that him breaking up with her felt a little forced but they felt like natural friends after
I appreciate the callback to the damage Toffee caused.
✨a giant woman✨
Steven universe
I always wondered if Tom’s mother was related to Globgor, considering he was supposedly the “King” of monsters, would that make Tom’s mother Globor’s Great (Great?) Grand Neice or something?
Demons are a separate race to the monsters for some odd story plot reason.
@@massacremark6782
But wasn’t Tom HALF monster?, didn’t he say so in his speech about getting stared at in a elevator?
From what I remember his father looked Mewman or Mewman sub-race like Piefolk or whatever King River was.
@@cwa728 yeah but when Star confronts her mom about the monster situation, she classifies demons as a separate species, maybe it has to do with class or kingdom.
@@massacremark6782
Maybe it’s like the Piefolk and Swamfolk, they’re both Mewmans but just different races of Mewman.
Like how here on earth we have different races of Humans, they are of the same species, just a different race of the same species.
Demons appear to be higher in the nobility chain, while Ludo’s family are more of Barons than Kings.
Barons and Baronesses being peasants being given titles of nobility rather than being born into it, like a Duke or Duchess being a direct sibling to the King or Queen, or a Viscount or Viscountess, Count or Countess, Lord or Lady, ect.
Is Tom a monster though? I thought his species was demon, though I know Tom once talked about being mistaken for a monster, and admitted that he couldn't see what the big difference was between monster and demon.
Tom's mom so cute
I've litteraly never seen this show but I absolutely love this woman
Bro, I low-key just wanna watch wrathmeilor and her life.
Wrathmelior is such an adorable character!
Still can't understand HOW ON EARTH TOM WAS BORN?! I mean. His mum is A GIANT DEMON and his dad is...a human...You know. I don't want to understand that. It's kinda like Eclipsa and Globgor with Meteora. You know what I mean.
P.S. Ok. I remembered that Globgor can change size, but I can't understand how Meteora was born healthy. Even with tail, with a father's ability change size...maybe. Because it is still controversial.
globgorn can shift his size anyway, so not a big deal of how they "made"
Now Dave and Wrathmelior? I mean its possible, maybe Dave has another D beyond the one of his name
oh my sweet and innocent summer child.
@Gee Dave is just the underworld version of dick
Why does this remember me of Donkey and Dragon from Shrek 😐
i mean globgor can change size, meaby Tom is product of a pact?
It’s kind of sad and very sweet that Tom‘s family was a lot more healthier than Stars. And half of them are literally demons.
Dave is a lucky man.
Not as lucky from the other Dave. He married a female demon and has a cute demon daughter name Satina
“Hi Dave” I love that line
I wonder how she feel by how the things end up LMAO
Probably kinda angry given her son got ditched, forgotten, and immediately moved on from by star :/
She hated his mistreatment and yet star still kept it up.
Tom's dad being zman of taste.
Dave is a winner.
Hobestly his mother was great, she knew his girlfriend sucked and only made him miserable, in almost every single photo he either has a painful memory and only she is happy about things or he is visibly unhappy. Tom was wayyyh to good for Star; he knew he had problems and he tried to better himself, and honestly they were both toxic in the relationship but Star, on the other hand always made Tom angry because she never cared much about his feelings, or reciprocated them, and in return he ended up pissed off. His mother knee he wasn't happy with her, but still respected his decision even though she HATED his girlfriend. I can't imagine this woman's happiness once she found out he was the one thaf dumped her this time. Lol
I have no idea wht show this is but I am HERE. FOR. IT 🙏🏻🔥✨
We gotta show this man the magic of svstfoe
Her laugh tho 😍😍😍
"Hello Wrathmelior!!!! Hi, Dave!" Never fails to make me laugh.
Awww she's a loving mama
damn i wish she growled at least once in the lava episode like at the start. they changed her voice and didnt explain it but they couldve saved it if they just showed she has range
Tom's mom is so sweet. Dangerous, but if you can't like a woman who's so true to her emotions than I don't know what to tell ya.
Wrathmelior is actually cute. I love her.
It’s funny how both kings are fighting and they don’t have powers
I see tom's mom is so adorable.
The way his mom talks is the cutest thing ever
I LOVE this subversion! XD More BIG demon waifu's, please!!
You gotta wonder how the hell was tom born his mother is this massive demon and his dad is this small squishy human how was that even possible?
Like I can understand globgor and eclipsa because he can change his size though maybe it's the same for wrathmelior and dave? maybe wrath can change her size to? since she's a monster I could see this being a thing that only legendary monsters of a royal bloodline can do?
since globgor is the king of all monsters and wrathmelior is a demon queen so I wouldn't be surprised that the underworld has it's own form of magic that would allow human demon conception
I loveeeee Tom's mom soooooooo muchhh she's sooooo cuteeeeeeeeeeee
His mother is so cute
Idk why but this makes me laugh so much. 😅
"Hi Dave"
Toms mom: strongwoman competitor lmfso
0:50 I ducking love those lines of the fathers ❤❤
I wonder how Tom’s parents meet?
Price Thomas must have an understanding of globgor
he couldve had a chance if he never cursed star at the ball. ofc they got together they had no choice, they were cursed to be together for life
That’s really true
Hmm, a guy named Dave is married to a giant red demon lady.
Now where have have I seen this before?
*looks at Satina*
Thicc with 2 Cs
That bro looked at his wife and said, "I do like a challenge."
Dave’s a lucky man
She's so cute! I absolutely love Wrathmelior.
“Hi Dave.”
snu-snu
Homeboy Dave got that dawg in him
Till this day
I am extremly jealous of that man
She's so adorable😍😍
I just realized that Tom is actually half human xd
Also dam they should have been endgame
i honestly wish Star stayed with Tom- TomStar is one of my fave ships 😭
i especially wish Marco got with Kennya? (kenny??) i forgot her name but it for sure started with a K
The girl who could skateboard? Yeah i think so too
And then they break up
DUDE!!! How are the moomans SO hypocritical?!?? (Also, why did it take me till the end of the series to notice 😅) Having a giant, monstrous spouse is fine, unless you're a naughty queen who speaks her mind and uses your ancestral magic in the way you see fit??
I’m confused, did she not end up with Marco?
She did end up with Marco which makes everything in this video awkward.
There were a few episodes where Star started dating Tom again, and Marco started dating Kelly.
MYYY DOTTA IS A DELICATE FLARWWAAAR!!!! 😭😭😭😭🪬🪬🪬
какая любовь)
I still cant believe star did not end up with tom. Just upsetting
W family, W Dave, W demon mama!❤
I this Tom dad a demon too Just a rather human looking one.
it's so sad when u think about tom made the carriage all by himself for star 😭☹️
"Hi dave."
"Hey"
💀
She reminds me of Satina's mom Lucia. I mean her mom was a demon, and her dad is a human name Dave.....And i do mean the other Dave
She's fiinnneee
Lucky bastard…
Admit it...we ALL got questions
I'm in love with her
Ok I wanna know how the heck did they make tom if the dads a human and the moms a giant😭😭💀
I used to think they should end together... but NO! Star deserved to be left alone 😡
Dave scored
Anyone feel like something like this happened between these two? th-cam.com/video/8LCot-MyCKM/w-d-xo.html
Extra: th-cam.com/video/dO-WkzZMQoY/w-d-xo.html
My mans knows what he wants
Nah Dave got it, he a G fr fr.
oh I like Tom's mom hehehe she's alright in my book.
Cute couple.
I forgot about Dave and wrathmelior
Bruh
Bro's a god
Dude toms dad a titan slayer😮
I want what Tom's dad is having
Am i the only one wondering how they even made Tom?
king fight!
I'm so curious as to whether Tom's dad is a mewman or a human. I mean, I guess you can look at Tom’s familiarity with earth culture-listening to Love Sentence, having a vague awareness of action movies and earthly junk food-as evidence that his dad’s from earth and maybe encouraged him to develop an interest in these things as a way of connecting with his earth heritage. But at the same time, it’s suggested that Tom’s kingdom might be linked to earth’s afterlife as well, so he might have learn about them from people who had passed on from earth. Either way, I’m really curious.