The Elefant Tank Stomper
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- An overview of the Elefant " Panzerjäger Tiger (P)"
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Movies/Video Games Featured:
White Tiger 2012
Band of Brothers 2001
Girls und Panzer Episode 10
War Thunder (Video Game)
Sudden Strike 4 (Video Game)
Company of Heroes 2
Prince Violent 1961
World of Tanks (Video Game)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 2003
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Russian Soldier: “Tigers, Panthers and Elephants. My mother thought I was going to the Berlin Zoo.”
Their was one elefant that survived all the shit on the west east and south fronts and saw itself defending Berlin
Technically wherever that soldier was fighting he could have actually gone to the Berlin Zoo
@@TheAlmightyToaster01 wouldn’t all the animals be dead especially the big cats
@@ryleeculla5570... going through all the shit ain't peanuts.
At least there wasn't a Mouse or Rat.
At Kursk, the powerful German 88mm gun coupled with the heavy armor of the Ferdinand, punched right through the Soviet tanks, and right into the infantry behind. The main problem was that the Ferdinand lacked a hull mounted machine-gun, and the surviving Ferdinands had to target individual soldiers with their main gun in order to safely withdraw from the assault. The Elephant was the new upgrade that added a gunner and was the difference between the two models. And German troops used to say that the easiest way to take out an Elephant, was for it to tow another Elephant, lol.
That is really hard to imagine going through and also good video by JJ. Who knows what other videos he'll do maybe the B-52 Bomber, M2 Browning Machine Gun, DSHK Machine Gun , MIG Jets and who knows what other topics out there.
Yup. Germans also added better, bigger commander cupola to Elefant, so he had a better orientation and situational awarness, than in Ferdinand. That and MG-34 mounts are two main visual differences between these two, that I have mentioned.
That wasn't the "main" problem. The "main" problem was the Ferdinant/Elefant was using a drivetrain rated for 45 tons, shoehorned into a 55 ton vehicle and then grandfathered into a 65 ton vehicle without any upgrade or modification at all. They were rolling fire hazards.
The Ferdinand was a one-off design: there was no logistical or maintenance capability for 65 ton vehicles, and to deal with one required the full effort of an entire recovery company (to the neglect of a dozen other vehicles). When the Germans were still pushing at Kursk that was the kind of luxury the Germans could afford, since they were tough and they could leave M-killed vehicles until dusk then work all night on getting them out. But the moment they fell back on the defensive the vast majority of the Ferdinands ended up being blown to avoid capture. I'm sure they were sick of looking at them by that point anyway.
This piece of trash didn't even have 360° view and was used as assault heavy instead of TD lmao. Common Reich L
@@raketny_hvost That is also something to think about when dealing and a disaster situation there and who knows what other topics for JJ to deal with like the DSHK machine gun, M2 Browning and many other topics to deal with.
German engineers: "these Porsche hulls really struggle with their weight, let's make them even heavier"
Hill - Allow me to introduce myself
Elefant - *Scream*
Clarification since I was confused in this when I first learned about the tank: All of the remaining Ferdinands who received hull machine guns and cupolas were redesigned as Elefants. So that is the difference between the two tanks.
Yes, correct
The Germans *really* liked renaming vehicles and other equipment during the war, so they probably had at least a dozen different names in official documents.
That is only partially correct. The name change was not made to denote the modifications (mg, cupola, ...). It happened independently although at roughly the same time.
Ok Johnny: I guess that the Elefant wasn't 'relefant' after all 😉 Keep it going, mate!
A career in stand up beckons.😅😅.
*ACTIONABLE PUN DETECTED* (cue shock gloves)
Damn for that range, It's frightening seeing your comrade in a tank row just instantly erupts it's turret and burst in flames. That element of fearing the unknown comes to place
Only two of these vehicles survived the war.
One Ferdinand was captured by Soviet forces at Kursk, and it was sent to NII BT testing facility in Kubinka, Moscow for testing. It was on display at the Kubinka Tank Museum outside Moscow. Its gun mantlet was painted red. Its chassis number was unknown, either No. 150090 or No. 501.
An Elefant, numbered "102" of sPz. Jgr. Abt 653, was captured at Anzio by the Americans, and is now part of the United States Army Ordnance Training Support Facility's collection at Fort Gregg-Adams, VA. The example at Fort Lee was restored to display condition in 2007-2008,[14] as documented on the show Tank Overhaul, but not in its original paint scheme.[15] The Fort Lee Elefant was loaned to the Bovington Tank Museum in Dorset, UK as part of the museum's "Tiger Collection" display from April 2017 until January 2019, and later returned to the United States. This display brought all the members of the Tiger family together in one place for the first time (the Sturmtiger was represented by its gun).
"I hope you found the video... relefant?"
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Adding Bugs to the video is a great call
Called "Dumbos" in our Axis&Allies house rules because 1 Elefant division costs the same as 2 divisions of StuG III but they look cool on the board and have niche utility.
Ok that ending was too funny to not comment again. Thanks Johnny 😂
Lol thanks for dropping in 🙏🥸
Yes and also I know there are many topics out there and also speaking of tanks may want to do videos of the Russian Soviet T-54/55 tanks if you're thinking about that subject in the future.
Thank you JJ and also other topics I mentioned earlier like the MIG Jets, Skycrane helicopter, B-52 bomber, M2 Browning and DSHK Machine Guns and also may do ones on M1 Abrams tanks among who knows what other topics for the channel.
Hope all you guys are doing well tonight. Anyway The jadgpanther is so gorgeous (as far as tank destroying vehicles go) that I have both versions. I have the normal Ferdinand and sadly i dont have the Elefant despite elephants being my favourite land animal. Thank goodness for tank games getting me so interested in armoured warfare.
I think we're all forgetting when 7 out of the eight in one region (of Kursk) caught fire within minutes of engaging because of the whole engine issue...
I had an Elefant when I was 11. Self-built with plastic and glue from the Italeri brand, scale 1:35. It was an impressive kit.
I've had the 1:72 version of that kit sitting on a shelf for years, waiting. Maybe some day...
'The slowest Porsche in the world!'
Kursk was the Elefants proving ground as it was rushed into the battle before all testing could be completed.
The British had decoded German intelligence regarding the upcoming push into the Kursk salient. They handed this information over to the Soviets. Dates, battle plans, divisions, troop strength, reserves, armor, etc... everything. This gave the Soviets months to prepare anti-tank ditches, zeroed in artillery zones, massed aircraft, tank traps, etc etc.
Considering all this... the Elefant (Ferdinand) did very well.
Awesome video as usual, Johnny!
"Slowest. Porsche. Ever."
Yet approximately the same ass-heavy weight distribution as the 911.
I contacted Porsche if they still make this one, they won't answer my question
I didnt know I needed a video but I did, Thank you
Was anybody else thinking of all the ole phant scenes in LOTR during this whole video too? 😂
They'll never believe me back home at the Shire.
Great video as always. In regards to the Elefant and Ferdinand though, particularly with the Elefants as they were heavier, the engine being underpowered was perhaps a bigger killer of the tanks than the Red Army itself. Many tanks would have their engines combust under their own weight, especially with the stress of climbing slopes. Comparatively, since these guns were most often used to support other tanks that had machine guns, the lack of an anti-infantry weapon was a less meaningful problem.
The Elefant wasn't heavier than the Ferdinand
@@Dreachon the Ferdinand weighed just over 65 tonnes. The Elefant had wider tracks, a machine gun, and more frontal armour compared to the Ferdinand, increasing its weight marginally but not improving the engine stress issue with improved cooling, etc.
Not a spectacular tank, but a useful one that proved its worth and to use a chassis Porche made so many of.
A favorite of mine of German TDs that I really like learning about. Plus it served me well in Sudden Strike 4, being my last 2 surviving tanks in the Kursk level. Imagine scouting with a Ferdinand so its twin can fire at the enemy.
I'm surprised you didn't use footage of it in Girls und Panzer while you used the clip showing both the Jagdpanther and Tiger II. Missed opportunity there, but not a serious issue.
Come back next week to find out how the Germans named their biggest and most advanced tank as Der Johnny.
They call it, "Snot tank".
It sized like a nose, but shoots cannon.
haha, your relefant elephant deserved a thumbs up
Go Johnny, go Johnny, go! Go Johnny, go Johnny, go! 🇨🇦
Wait no, relefant? Boooooo
Rock ,,n ..roll..baby...❤❤😅😅😅
That pun at the end - lol! Sounded like you regretted it as the words were coming out of your mouth!
Lol I couldn't think of anything better and was late for something
This thing was built because Porche was too confinident in its design and started making hulls before the trials completed, where it was discovered that its engines were worthless for a vehicle of that size.
Due to its poor engine it had a habit of overheating and bursting into flames.
The lack of an MG was not a issue initially as it was intended for Tank destroyers to be behind the line, thus not needing a mg as the infantry would have cleared enemy infantry from the area it would be firing from.
Awwwww yeaaahhh, look at that monstrosity
Great video, good to see Girls und panzer featuring In such well made videos
I love you Johnny
I also tend to comment this in the channels i watch. Cheers!
Love you too! 🎉
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsqoh well....peace, love and understanding from the music metropolis of Merseyside...E...😊😊
Your channel is awesome
its funny, the thing can take out like 10 t34s, but then died half way up on a 20 foot hill. the germans had their priorities, transmissions were not one of them
Finally talking about the elefant in the room.
This Elefant was a big baby. Sinking in mud draining theoil pipe! Never seen it in a warmovie though....!
Johnny: (says a bunch of historical facts)
Johnny's Commenters: "Yes, but in the lunch room I herd *WEHRABOO* is teh coolest."
German tank destroyers: The Jagdpanzers, the Panzerjägers, and the Elefant.
Even you didn't believe the pun at the end. ;) The Elephant was revolutionary, but as usual, over-engineered and prone to breakdowns. And there wasn't enough of them.
Reminds me of that “Gate Jietai” anime where Princess Pona described the tanks as “steel elephants”; if she were to see this, then she would’ve called it a “Greater steel elephant”!
I imagine coming up against one of these in Italy would still make your blood run cold. Set up in a defensive position, it could still do some damage. Like you said, dwindling supplies made them less effective, thankfully.
@4:14 the elefant in it's natural habitat - tracked on the steppes of russia, a soviet mg crew preventing the crew from escaping, and, without it's own mg to fire back, it waits for an infantry squad to neutralize it.
meanwhile, 1,800 km away, an asshole thinks that what his military needs is an even larger tank, slower, with an even more overstressed drivetrain, which is helpless against the enemy's overwhelming air power
Who remembers camping in these in COD?
When it worked it did pretty well, but it was a mechanical nightmare.
I always like Elefants on my side when I game. If you can get one up on a hill, it pretty much commands the map, and unless the other side has heavy artillery, it's pretty much unkillable unless the other side can get people behind it.
Raise your tankards for the Elefant tank!
My favorite Tank!
The "e" in Porsche isn't silent
It's just a vernacular I wouldn't worry about it.
Cause that's how the Elefant do. Relefant? Alright. Catch ya on the next one.
Nice tank indeed!
I liked this spg, (as a modeller or diecast modell collector) but it was rathe cumbersome. On the other hand it was a first hybrid :)
Thought most people could pronounce Porsche by now
Not in Canada. We all typically pronounce it wrong. A cognate, I suppose.
Charlie Sheen did it well in 1987's "No Man's Land".
Tip: Porsche is NOT pronounced "Porsch", but like PorschEE. I recommend watching the video from Feli from Germany about the pronunciation of german Brands.👍
Yah we say Adidas different in Canada too. It's just the vernacular pronunciation where I live. Not technically correct, but that's language sometimes.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq yes, btw I really enjoy your videos!
Thanks man! I'll keep working on my German 🇨🇦 🇩🇪
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq nice👍
Almost forgot to like until I heard the "relephant" bit in the end.
This thing was as heavy as a mark 4 land ship but has better gun and armor
One of many tank destroyers used by Kuromorimine Girls' Academy.
2:48 front armor damaged!
2:10 ... physics, you fookin childrens.
it seems inconceivable Germany did not fit original Ferdinands with MG defensive armament .. and mechanical failure- shown up with the Porsche Tiger prototypes - were prevalent . Elefants served in Italy in 1944 and later Germany in last ditch defence of Germany - Russians often referred to German heavy TDS as "Ferdinands" generally
Love the saucy video at 1:44
Yes White Tiger was a very odd movie.
What was I supposed to think of that scene at the end?! The one with Hitler and Trotzky by the fireplace, what was that point?!
@@paulwee1924dus I still haven't got a clue about it or what it was setting up.
LSD fairy tale from Moscowywood. @@killzoneisa
Such a unique looking tank in my opinion.
Could you do 1 about the Christmas truce
Who was in charge of armaments... oh... wait...
Heffalump.
Snuffleupagus.
Video suggestion can you do Sylvia IS 3
Su Da Wondrous Beast De Le Elefant,
De Cannon Mo Killa Den A Dilettante -
No. 1 Fan Johnny - John 14:6
Some of these tanks a very funny.
How they call them by animals, such as a tiger tank, leopard, panther and elephants
5:21 - 🤦♂ Oh, that was painful.
They had the 88mm guns. I have my puns.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq One of them makes you want to dive into the nearest hole and curl up in the fetal position with your hands over your head. (The other is the 88.) 😉
This vehicle is simply another in a long line of heavy, unreliable vehicles made by the Germans during the war. The Stugs and up to the PzKpfw IVs were fine, but the heavies that followed were unreliable trash constantly breaking down, complete with part shortages since there were too many wild variants out there with little in common. Not to mention fuel hogs for a nation that was already starving for fuel.
Abysmal failures all of them.
Bo time gaming makes a return once again, love the video Johnny Johnson, have a great day
These beasts later served both in Italy and on the southern east front (roughly in the same area the Russo-Ukrainian war is taking place right now).
Hey Thanks, Johnny
Please if you can, also use R.U.S.E. gameplay to show weapons, tanks or tacticts, it was an amazing WWII RTS game!!
Your bad jokes, JJ are very much……..the elephant in the room!
Classic german design: perfect and reliable but complicated and overengineered
Thanks dont see alot anout this tank thankyou
You forgot about the one Ferdinand ace that had 34 kills painted on the barrel
You have a typo at 2:40. The cartoon’s title is ‘Prince Violent.’
I always have at least one typo 🙃
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq At least it was correct later on.
Japan made a better Ferdinand/Elefant also known as the Ho-Ri screw you I wasn't completed.
Great video
65 tonnes isnt 10x more, than Tiger I weight lol
Ten _tons_ more, not ten _times_ more. Listen again.
very Rel🐘 thank you Johnny
The jokes, man! they just keep coming back
What film was featured in the clip?
Just the top left corner as clips play
the tiger 2 is the most heavy armoured tanks it was use to destory soviet and american tanks only few 100s of these were every made making the most poupluer ww2 tanks for the germans
We 🇩🇪 building 🤡 tanks at this point
And you mangled Elephant completely 😅🤗
E le fand(pronuced like find just with a)
Movie name please?
Please do the Maus next, Johnny. And we might even forgive you for that stinker of a dad joke at the end. (Just kidding, that one was bad) 🤣🤣🤣
plural of 'Elefant' is 'Elefanten'
My favorite tank destroyer. F 🐺🐺🐺🐺
Do you still have time to play Warthunder, JJ?
Sadly living on a farm my internet is trash so my old gaming days are done until they run a cable out to my house =( Currently playing offline Heroes of Might and Magic III lol
heheeh, nice one at the end
What are your sources
Father of pzh2000
Damn you!
Wo ist die m16?!
the fact they didn't order any more after the first 91 shows that it was not a success. had it really worked the germans would have ordered more as it was, i think it was a case of "well we spent money on these chasis, do something with them, anything!
Engines not Engine Johnny as it had 2 Maybach Hochleistung 230 being 590 odd cc engines.
Was a rather convoluted construction but did use pre-existing automotive engine HL210 upgraded to the HL230.
The whole purpose of the Panzer Jager was to use pre-existing civilian manufacturing-product for war effort which the Elephant started to stray from that original design principal but still fit the bill unlike any Blighty or yank tanks being motor gun carriages & not Jager panzer=armour hunters/tank destroyers.
Nothing more annoying then USA Chrysler propaganda of the M18 Hell cat as a tank destroyer which it is not as it had no Panzerabwehrkanone=anti tank defence cannon.
The British Archer is not even a tank destroyer as it gun is backward & reverses intro combat though very similar is not a true tank Destroyer.
I can tell you a lot on this matter as I have before for unlike most I talked to German tank crews even if my German is meh but most Germans have alright English!
I said two! Maybe I'm speaking too fast these days. We might never agree in the M18 but that's okay! At least you didn't tease me for my canadian pronunciation of Porsche 🙏🇬🇧🇨🇦
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq This is a hill I will die on concerning Panzer Jager now obsolete. As the antitank guided missile carrier made by Britain & Sweden.
Recalled the vehicle after a search on British IFV's (FV1620 Humber Hornet) if interested as it fulfilled the role of both SPG's & Motor gun carriers/ MCG's while making Jager panzer/tank hunters obsolete.
Antitank guided missiles from 1st France then the joint British & Australian programs changed the face of armoured vehicle warfare in the 1950's.
Humber Hornet is a little 1/2 dozen ton vehicle a lot gloss over or have no idea how important it was to the face of modern warfare.
The USA did not have anything comparable to this vehicle till over a decade later with Sheridan.
Well don't worry I'm going right off topic next video
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsqFair.
The design, very interesting, and prescient...the cold war imitations abound, clever stuff ,my jedi...as you have sai us nerdii need to stick together...😅😅...cheers Johnny...E..
Pronounced "Porsch-uh." It's a family name, AND a current company, so shouldn't be mispronounced.
It's common in Canada. We pronounce Adidas, Wilhelm, Mercedes, Hyundai, etc, differently, too. We know better its just a vernacular.
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