Nice video! My Airoh is indeed a bit warm during summer time - I would love to have a bit more ventilation on top. However, by opening the visor half-way it's quite nice when riding + you can also open it just a lil tiny bit to get some extra ventilation. I carry a towel with me to wipe my head from time to time 😃 Other than that it's an excellent and nice looking helmet. I might look for something summer-specific and the LS2 looks nice for that. I also looked at "bell mx-9 adventure" as I've heard it has good ventilation and it also has this nice adventure style, but it was impossible to see one in a shop to try out. Maybe next year I will try it out
iv Had many helmets Scorpion ADX, Nolan n70, Icon Airflite and multiple DH helmets including Leatts and IXS but i always go back to 1, the LS2 . iv been using the LS2 for 2/3yrs now , exactly like in the video but its the adventure style one which is identical to your motocross one except it has a pinlock visor (LS2 Pioneer Evo)
One suggestion for us winter riders: cut off the metal chinstrap rings then install a magnetic Fidlock ($10). Then cut off excess strap and wrap end with gorilla tape a few times. Easy on off and secure.
Hey Adam, I just saw a bunch of people who knew nothing about EUCs say that you can't brake on these, even though they clearly never even tried one. So I thought there might be a video on braking distance. But I can't find any. So I think a good idea for a video would be a brake test for a bunch of EUCs, and compare it to other vehicles, like bikes, e-bikes, scooters, even cars, all going the same speed. One good quality video that anyone could reference when people are doubtful about the security of these would be amazing to have. Or multiple videos, each one about a different prejudice on EUCs, so we've got a whole catalogue to send to people when they don't believe it's not as bad as they imagine it. Or even if it is bad, to at least know what the risks are, and therefore be better prepared for them. I think you could do an amazing job with this.
@@graemebuchan1919 thanks! It's a comparison between one wheel and one e-bike on a lot of different topics though. I think a bunch of smaller videos each about one small subject (or a big video with a lot of timestamps like Adam does so well), comparing multiple wheels at different speeds to different vehicles would be a great resource to have. Making it more "scientific", using more data and more varied, and it would be amazing. But thanks for the video, it is a great start I somehow forgot about.
I really think EUC riders can be right babies about weight. As a motorcycle rider I just use my motorbike helmets and got used to the weight when I started bikes. They are by far the safest way to go and already have a bunch of research into them. If you can't tell, I am not a fan of people using MTB/longboard helmets for fast EUC riding purely because they cba to build the neck muscles needed to be comfortable with a standard ece motorbike helmet. Edit: Just to note, I am aware that in summer / high heat and doing slow speed riding, motorbike helmets can be too much, but that's ventilation not weight. Just get a ventilation focused helmet.
As a motorbike rider, I can't entirely agree with you. Motorbike helmets are also designed to lift some of the weight with speed we can't achieve with EUCs. Yes I agree that you can get used to the weight, but that doesn't mean that long term it's good for your neck. Also, you more than anyone should know that you should adjust your gear to your activity. Doing offroad means that you need to have a wider field of vision, a lighter helmet and that you're going low speed, a MTB should be more than enough. If you're doing high speed on road then you don't need that much of a field of vision and you need more protection and aerodynamism, therefor a motorbike helmet makes more sense. If it was just all about protection and nothing else, everyone would be using the same helmet for every sports. There's a reason that's not the case especially on a professional lvl...
Same reason why doing long roadtrips on a motorbike, you don't gear up with track gear, and on track you don't gear up with the gear you use for long roatrips. And why on a bicycle you don't wear motorbike gear...
I use the BULLITT CARBON full faced motocycle helmet. It only weights like 2.5 lbs but it's a full motocycle helmet. Highly recommended. Also the commend on TSG is correct, it's not a good enough helmet for EUCs.
As we going faster we really need to look and start like you do recommend MX or adv helmets. We only have one head might as well protect it. My Bell Super Air R is also looking for a replacement and its MX with goggles first choice. Thanks for the video.
@@mr_wrongway got the big brothers N40-5 GT instead. Heavy but with nice features. Still, I would have preferred a lighter helmet. Until now, I only heard good review of the Nolan N30-4 VP which was build for our kind of usage (EUC, electric scooter, …). Just missing a few feature like the ability to add an audio system and a sun protection. I am quite surprised that you were able to try it out as it is quite new (around 1 year? And 6 month for availability?) Well, I will keep your opinion in mind.
Canadian winter can be harsh. I use a similar carbon solution but much better adapted to cold weather. Have you tried snowmobile helmets? I wear the CKX Mission Carbone. It has a heated double lense visor, a neck wind guard and a nose seal to make a goggle like sealing around your face. All of these can be removed for summer riding as well but I need to try it next summer before I make myself an opinion.
Hi there! I’m glad you like your choice! We checked out a FXR snowmobile helmet with a heated shield and breathbox :) although it was great, it felt a bit heavy and I already had the Airoh at the time which is great in those conditions minus the breathbox and heated shield :) both of which I can live without pretty well (at this time). Thanks for your input though! I will look up your model!
I rode with a mountain bike/motocross Fox helmet all summer. It was great, but noticed how loud it got when I purchased a watch and it kept reminding me. I started with earplugs and it was great, but winter here is also harsh so just now purchased a modular LS2. Yes, it is heavy, but the ECE22.06 is something that I felt is necessary for me. My use case puts me often many miles from signal let alone civilization, the safer the better. I love the LS2 modularity, I see you with something like that too in the first part of the video, maybe the other one like that, the Shark? Anyways, informative as always, keep it up!
My 2nd helmet is a blue TSG and I just added Lightmode light together with a the white Breakfree light plus strapped the ACE Pro on the front of it using the insta360 helmetstrap, and then im trying out the L shaped portrait mode bracket and using the watch to make sure framing is on spot.
OK, you've finally made me google pinlock so I now know what it is. I like the LS2, but mine isn't particularly comfortable with the com system. Could be my install or the particular version of LS2 I'm using.
Thanks for mentioning how bad TSG/Predator helmets are, though more people like yourself should be hammering down harder on this subject. To many “retailers” and paid TH-camrs promoting that rubbish.
Please do. You’re not the only one that has brought up this subject, there was a quick video Dawn Champion made showing just how bad they are. TSG helmets should be condemned for EUC riders.
@@skampster, Adam, every time I see these complaints about the TSG Pass, it's always about concussions. The problem is that bike and motorcycle helmets in general are not designed to prevent concussions. Concussions are not part of any helmet testing standard. So it's a fundamentally confused discussion. Dawn focused incorrectly on concussions. The only safety complaint about the Pass that makes sense is that it's too easy to hit your face against the chinbar.
@@SkeptikosUTube correct, and do you know how many injuries occur with people faces when crashing? How many people have hit things like poles/trees etcetera…… I’d rather crash in my Shoei helmet, concussion or not when dealing with the extreme venerability that comes with EUC/ high performance scooter riding.
Let’s break this down to its basics. Do you think that F1 and Moto GP drivers/riders would ever dare race with a TSG helmet? No they wouldn’t, and I’d rather spend more money staying alive than look “cool” in a TSG helmet. That’s all they are is a fashion statement. Period.
I appreciate this video. I've been using a full-face motorcycle helmet all summer, but now that it's winter I'm finding that my visor and glasses fog up really badly below 20F (-6C). I even tried holding my breath with no luck. I ended up having to open my visor completely (cracking it didn't even help) and removing my glasses (lol blind man on a unicycle coming through!). I'm going to have to give the off-road helmet with ski goggles a try.
If you wear superthin Motorcycle balaclava inside the helmet youll be warmer and the helmet will be cleaner. Windnoise will be reduced. You dont want to wash the helmetpads, easier to wash MC balaclava.
Prefer a motorcycle helmet, mx helmets were designed to wear while doing a physically grueling off-road activity so they will be far more ventilated and noisy. Full face motorcycle helmets are likely a better choice in almost every scenario that isn't flying down a bumpy treed trail on a sunny day or while on an MX track/downhill track. As someone who has a low speed cutout and bounced the face of a helmet off the pavement, I'll take the neck/face safety of a full face helmet design over the ventilation of an mx / half helmet.
I use the LS2 and have had little to no issues with it. The chin strap fastening could be easier and the earpieces for my Com system don't fit that well. Also, there are so many surface changes, it can be difficult to put stuff on it such as a mirror, Com system, and lights. That said, I did manage to find a place for all that stuff. Pin lock?
I prefer to wear sunglasses with my helmet but some helmets squeeze on the sides causing discomfort. It would be nice to know what helmets accommodate sunglasses.
It's end of 2023 - can we have some ranking of the year for ewheels? Good to be divided by few categories - best first/for beginners, best performance, best price/quality.
I love my LS2 OF569 open face helmet, but i can't mount my camera on the chin which is a bummer, i've ordered a Bell Sanction MTB just one day before your video
I would like to see a video about gloves too. I have cheap wrist protectors and with them I can't use really warm gloves. I looked at motorcycle gloves but they miss wrist protection as we need it.
How do you find it wearing glasses with the heavy padding inside the helmet. Is it annoying, do the glasses get shifted on your eyes because of side pressure?
Thank you for the video!! I just use my Ruroc, completely newbie and I like how they look I don't really trust the chin guard that much tho, looks a bit weak
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching :) Ruroc RG1DX indeed doesn’t have a certification on the chin piece and is generally a snow helmet :) they do look cool!
what kind of intercom systems do you use for the LS2 Fast EVO? i am also a little worried that the helmet blocks too much of the noise since i use my hearing a lot for corners i cant directly see the cars coming.
@@mr_wrongway This made me go into cyclegear and check them all out. I ended up going with the scorpion exo 960 for the flip up feature. Thanks for the push! I love it
No Palestine talk thank god. I just got to say for all the lefties who hated on Trump but was pro Biden. You know Trump bad ass leader who was anti war. They got what you voted for. That being said I love EUCs and other pevs.
@@BladeStar420while it's easier to like one person for every factor of their personality, you can't always do it. He is allowed to be himself not forced to keep his personality hidden for fear of retribution. You must be fun at parties if you can't tolerate an opinion that doesn't match your echo chamber.
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I just got LS2 MX701 Explorer for the winter rides and the pinlock visor is so amazing! -10 degrees and still going strong with perfect vision!
Sweet! Good to hear! :)
yah, if your head is long oval, theres no alternatives, except LS2
I got a ls2 carbon challenger for my euc 2 months ago, really nice helmets
Nice video! My Airoh is indeed a bit warm during summer time - I would love to have a bit more ventilation on top. However, by opening the visor half-way it's quite nice when riding + you can also open it just a lil tiny bit to get some extra ventilation. I carry a towel with me to wipe my head from time to time 😃 Other than that it's an excellent and nice looking helmet.
I might look for something summer-specific and the LS2 looks nice for that. I also looked at "bell mx-9 adventure" as I've heard it has good ventilation and it also has this nice adventure style, but it was impossible to see one in a shop to try out. Maybe next year I will try it out
iv Had many helmets Scorpion ADX, Nolan n70, Icon Airflite and multiple DH helmets including Leatts and IXS but i always go back to 1, the LS2 . iv been using the LS2 for 2/3yrs now , exactly like in the video but its the adventure style one which is identical to your motocross one except it has a pinlock visor (LS2 Pioneer Evo)
Got you! I’m glad you’re liking it!
One suggestion for us winter riders: cut off the metal chinstrap rings then install a magnetic Fidlock ($10). Then cut off excess strap and wrap end with gorilla tape a few times. Easy on off and secure.
Hey Adam, I just saw a bunch of people who knew nothing about EUCs say that you can't brake on these, even though they clearly never even tried one. So I thought there might be a video on braking distance. But I can't find any. So I think a good idea for a video would be a brake test for a bunch of EUCs, and compare it to other vehicles, like bikes, e-bikes, scooters, even cars, all going the same speed. One good quality video that anyone could reference when people are doubtful about the security of these would be amazing to have. Or multiple videos, each one about a different prejudice on EUCs, so we've got a whole catalogue to send to people when they don't believe it's not as bad as they imagine it. Or even if it is bad, to at least know what the risks are, and therefore be better prepared for them. I think you could do an amazing job with this.
look for the EUC VS e-bike video
@@graemebuchan1919 thanks! It's a comparison between one wheel and one e-bike on a lot of different topics though. I think a bunch of smaller videos each about one small subject (or a big video with a lot of timestamps like Adam does so well), comparing multiple wheels at different speeds to different vehicles would be a great resource to have. Making it more "scientific", using more data and more varied, and it would be amazing.
But thanks for the video, it is a great start I somehow forgot about.
I really think EUC riders can be right babies about weight. As a motorcycle rider I just use my motorbike helmets and got used to the weight when I started bikes. They are by far the safest way to go and already have a bunch of research into them.
If you can't tell, I am not a fan of people using MTB/longboard helmets for fast EUC riding purely because they cba to build the neck muscles needed to be comfortable with a standard ece motorbike helmet.
Edit: Just to note, I am aware that in summer / high heat and doing slow speed riding, motorbike helmets can be too much, but that's ventilation not weight. Just get a ventilation focused helmet.
As a motorbike rider, I can't entirely agree with you. Motorbike helmets are also designed to lift some of the weight with speed we can't achieve with EUCs. Yes I agree that you can get used to the weight, but that doesn't mean that long term it's good for your neck.
Also, you more than anyone should know that you should adjust your gear to your activity. Doing offroad means that you need to have a wider field of vision, a lighter helmet and that you're going low speed, a MTB should be more than enough. If you're doing high speed on road then you don't need that much of a field of vision and you need more protection and aerodynamism, therefor a motorbike helmet makes more sense.
If it was just all about protection and nothing else, everyone would be using the same helmet for every sports. There's a reason that's not the case especially on a professional lvl...
Same reason why doing long roadtrips on a motorbike, you don't gear up with track gear, and on track you don't gear up with the gear you use for long roatrips. And why on a bicycle you don't wear motorbike gear...
Would be interested in hearing about your cold weather gear!
Alrighty! ✌️
I use my motorcycle helmet in the winter; it was a tad heavy at first but you quickly get used to it.
I use the BULLITT CARBON full faced motocycle helmet. It only weights like 2.5 lbs but it's a full motocycle helmet. Highly recommended. Also the commend on TSG is correct, it's not a good enough helmet for EUCs.
As we going faster we really need to look and start like you do recommend MX or adv helmets. We only have one head might as well protect it. My Bell Super Air R is also looking for a replacement and its MX with goggles first choice. Thanks for the video.
Suggestion: Nolan N30-4 VP.
Lot of aeration and quite light while still being a motorcycle helmet.
I tried it out. It was really poor quality, weird balance. I had to send it back :/
@@mr_wrongway got the big brothers N40-5 GT instead. Heavy but with nice features. Still, I would have preferred a lighter helmet.
Until now, I only heard good review of the Nolan N30-4 VP which was build for our kind of usage (EUC, electric scooter, …). Just missing a few feature like the ability to add an audio system and a sun protection.
I am quite surprised that you were able to try it out as it is quite new (around 1 year? And 6 month for availability?) Well, I will keep your opinion in mind.
Canadian winter can be harsh. I use a similar carbon solution but much better adapted to cold weather. Have you tried snowmobile helmets? I wear the CKX Mission Carbone. It has a heated double lense visor, a neck wind guard and a nose seal to make a goggle like sealing around your face.
All of these can be removed for summer riding as well but I need to try it next summer before I make myself an opinion.
Hi there! I’m glad you like your choice! We checked out a FXR snowmobile helmet with a heated shield and breathbox :) although it was great, it felt a bit heavy and I already had the Airoh at the time which is great in those conditions minus the breathbox and heated shield :) both of which I can live without pretty well (at this time). Thanks for your input though! I will look up your model!
I rode with a mountain bike/motocross Fox helmet all summer. It was great, but noticed how loud it got when I purchased a watch and it kept reminding me. I started with earplugs and it was great, but winter here is also harsh so just now purchased a modular LS2. Yes, it is heavy, but the ECE22.06 is something that I felt is necessary for me. My use case puts me often many miles from signal let alone civilization, the safer the better. I love the LS2 modularity, I see you with something like that too in the first part of the video, maybe the other one like that, the Shark? Anyways, informative as always, keep it up!
Hey there! Thanks for your insights! The modular helmets are too heavy for my dumb riding :)
My 2nd helmet is a blue TSG and I just added Lightmode light together with a the white Breakfree light plus strapped the ACE Pro on the front of it using the insta360 helmetstrap, and then im trying out the L shaped portrait mode bracket and using the watch to make sure framing is on spot.
Sounds like a good video-righ! Still can’t recommend TSG for higher speed/performance riding :/
OK, you've finally made me google pinlock so I now know what it is. I like the LS2, but mine isn't particularly comfortable with the com system. Could be my install or the particular version of LS2 I'm using.
Thanks for mentioning how bad TSG/Predator helmets are, though more people like yourself should be hammering down harder on this subject. To many “retailers” and paid TH-camrs promoting that rubbish.
You’re welcome and thanks for the donation! Indeed they should not be as popular as they are :( I might make a separate video on this subject :/
Please do. You’re not the only one that has brought up this subject, there was a quick video Dawn Champion made showing just how bad they are. TSG helmets should be condemned for EUC riders.
@@skampster, Adam, every time I see these complaints about the TSG Pass, it's always about concussions. The problem is that bike and motorcycle helmets in general are not designed to prevent concussions. Concussions are not part of any helmet testing standard. So it's a fundamentally confused discussion. Dawn focused incorrectly on concussions.
The only safety complaint about the Pass that makes sense is that it's too easy to hit your face against the chinbar.
@@SkeptikosUTube correct, and do you know how many injuries occur with people faces when crashing? How many people have hit things like poles/trees etcetera……
I’d rather crash in my Shoei helmet, concussion or not when dealing with the extreme venerability that comes with EUC/ high performance scooter riding.
Let’s break this down to its basics. Do you think that F1 and Moto GP drivers/riders would ever dare race with a TSG helmet?
No they wouldn’t, and I’d rather spend more money staying alive than look “cool” in a TSG helmet. That’s all they are is a fashion statement. Period.
I appreciate this video. I've been using a full-face motorcycle helmet all summer, but now that it's winter I'm finding that my visor and glasses fog up really badly below 20F (-6C). I even tried holding my breath with no luck. I ended up having to open my visor completely (cracking it didn't even help) and removing my glasses (lol blind man on a unicycle coming through!). I'm going to have to give the off-road helmet with ski goggles a try.
You’re welcome! You might also try a breath box or balaclava that has a breathing outflow to the bottom. Goggles work best though!
You’ll have to get a pin lock visor to avoid that issue.
If you wear superthin Motorcycle balaclava inside the helmet youll be warmer and the helmet will be cleaner. Windnoise will be reduced. You dont want to wash the helmetpads, easier to wash MC balaclava.
Thank you for the video ;) You helped me via Fb now I see the in-depth review :) Note that I got the Airoh Carbon at the end :) We ll see how it fits!
You’re welcome! Oh that’s cool! Lemme know how it goes!
Love the Helmet! Great Fit, and the weight is crazy light!@@mr_wrongway
i bought the fox v1 leed helmet the new version....absolut fantastic...ece 22.06,mips and great weight about 1.2kg...for 200 euros.
Sweet!
I ride with an icon airflite MIPS bc it looks cool and it saved me twice from rider error cutouts with minimal damage to the helmet itself
Prefer a motorcycle helmet, mx helmets were designed to wear while doing a physically grueling off-road activity so they will be far more ventilated and noisy. Full face motorcycle helmets are likely a better choice in almost every scenario that isn't flying down a bumpy treed trail on a sunny day or while on an MX track/downhill track. As someone who has a low speed cutout and bounced the face of a helmet off the pavement, I'll take the neck/face safety of a full face helmet design over the ventilation of an mx / half helmet.
I would just need one just for driving it for fun
I use the LS2 and have had little to no issues with it. The chin strap fastening could be easier and the earpieces for my Com system don't fit that well. Also, there are so many surface changes, it can be difficult to put stuff on it such as a mirror, Com system, and lights. That said, I did manage to find a place for all that stuff. Pin lock?
Do you recommend Bluetooth motorcycle helmets? When going fast it's kinda hard to hear the beeps and also what jacket are you wearing in the video?
I use an intercom in my helmet :) SENA 50S. Jacket is a 4F ski jacket
I prefer to wear sunglasses with my helmet but some helmets squeeze on the sides causing discomfort. It would be nice to know what helmets accommodate sunglasses.
It's end of 2023 - can we have some ranking of the year for ewheels? Good to be divided by few categories - best first/for beginners, best performance, best price/quality.
Good idea!
I love my LS2 OF569 open face helmet, but i can't mount my camera on the chin which is a bummer, i've ordered a Bell Sanction MTB just one day before your video
I would like to see a video about gloves too. I have cheap wrist protectors and with them I can't use really warm gloves. I looked at motorcycle gloves but they miss wrist protection as we need it.
How do you find it wearing glasses with the heavy padding inside the helmet. Is it annoying, do the glasses get shifted on your eyes because of side pressure?
Thanks Mr Wrong Way, timely ha im putting my cheap helmet on, i was ,eh perhaps i might put my better one on.
Thank you for the video!! I just use my Ruroc, completely newbie and I like how they look
I don't really trust the chin guard that much tho, looks a bit weak
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching :) Ruroc RG1DX indeed doesn’t have a certification on the chin piece and is generally a snow helmet :) they do look cool!
Airoh Rządzi : )
Jest ok :)
what kind of intercom systems do you use for the LS2 Fast EVO? i am also a little worried that the helmet blocks too much of the noise since i use my hearing a lot for corners i cant directly see the cars coming.
I use the Sena 50S. But I might switch to the Spider ST1 because of the mounting system. You can hear plenty well in it!
@@mr_wrongway thank you! I got the veteran patton from watching your video and i have been loving the ride!
I am going to continue to use my modular motorcycle helment
Great! :)
Helmet treads are very ugly and narrow the view. Do you think it is beneficial?
Gear please :::)
I went from DH to MX helmet but now im going back to DH because my neck kills riding for long periods with mx helmet
I can relate so much
how's the nolan n30-4? was thinking about getting one because it looks like it has a really good fov
It was terrible build quality :/ the chin piece was moving about 0.5 cm up and down making the visor not seal correctly :/ pretty bad experience
@@mr_wrongway unfortunate( thats the second time I hear about bad quality of this helmet. looks like its a no go. thanks though
What happened to the Shoei glamster?
It was time for it to go :/ I needed a more off rod dedicated helmet with a peak
How does it compare to the bell mx-9 adventure?
It’s far lighter. I just looked at the weight though, I didn’t try it out
@@mr_wrongway This made me go into cyclegear and check them all out. I ended up going with the scorpion exo 960 for the flip up feature. Thanks for the push! I love it
I got LS2, so I don't need to watch the video.😂
Haha you got it :D
Just wear a backwards baseball hat like a real man 💀
Squib life! Short life
That's funny I laughed, then sad, then imagination, ain't there cap helmets now.
No Palestine talk thank god. I just got to say for all the lefties who hated on Trump but was pro Biden. You know Trump bad ass leader who was anti war. They got what you voted for. That being said I love EUCs and other pevs.
#freepalestine ✌️🇵🇸
@mr_wrongway based.
please don't try to lump euc in with politics dude it is a fun and safe hobby for people of all ages genders and backgrounds
😢
@@BladeStar420while it's easier to like one person for every factor of their personality, you can't always do it. He is allowed to be himself not forced to keep his personality hidden for fear of retribution. You must be fun at parties if you can't tolerate an opinion that doesn't match your echo chamber.
@timwatterson8060 my comment was directed at OP not wrong way
its pink tho
That’s’a the beauty of it!