Destiny 2: Hierarchy of Needs - Yet Another Great Exotic Bow
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- I finally got Hierarchy of Needs from the dungeon Spire of the Watcher and got the catalyst from a run of Master. So, in typical Datto fashion, let's talk about something that became accessible weeks ago.
How it Works/Catalyst - 0:00
Performance - 1:11
vs. Ticuu's - 3:28
Single Target Damage - 4:32
Warmind Cells - 8:30
Conclusion - 10:49
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Here's the lore about the weapon:
The Spire of the Watcher was a research facility made in collaboration between the Seraphs and the Ishtar Collective. They created an AI as a twin to the Warmind, the Augurmind Soteria who was meant to be focused on extra-solar colonization efforts.
She was built with Vex tech to see the future, and it suddenly abandoned the facility for seemingly no reason.
The Collapse occurred soon after.
You may have heard the term "Pillory" while in the dungeon. That is a project designed to kill Rasputin by splitting his program into sub-minds. Incidentally, it also saved him since that preserved his data.
Anyway, Osiris and Ana assumed that the Spire was a Pillory for Rasputin.
It was not, it was for the Augurmind.
During a launch "test" of the ECHO colonization ships, Soteria launched them for realsies. In return, the researchers activated the Pillory, splitting it up into at least two pieces
The largest piece, on the main ECHO ship got caught into a large "gravity well" at the edge of the system and crashed.
Presumably, into Neptune.
The other piece was locked away in the basement, but was freed when we blew up Persys. It found a small processor and implanted itself into an old caster's bow.
Behold, the Hierarchy of Needs.
Quote from Ana Bray:
I swear anything sentient has a chance to wind up as a weapon around that Guardian…
Thanks, very cool.
Legend for the explanation.
Could literally just watch Byf's video instead of your interpretation in a comment section
@@bigdaddynero well the endless search for who asked for ur opinion has started
@@ole-edvardkopperud5854 Saving this dude from attempting another essay over covered material.
My only real problem with hierarchy is how clunky it feels when trying to use it up close. All it takes is one chunky enemy to push up and to can’t use your ring anymore
They just need to decrease the range needed to proc the damage buff to like 25-30m for this thing to be used seriously in endgame. But damn is this thing fun to use
They should make it a sphere instead of a ring, that would solve the issue
It pairs nicely with a kinetic shotgun or Riptide in that case.
Thats why special ammo guns exists...
Try using a chill clip riptide
Crazy how Datto the Kingslayer got the new exotic before Touch of Malice.
RGN do be like that
im kingslayer with 34 clears and dont have touch either
It took me 60 clears to finally get it. And I got this bow before the touch
Could be because of drop rate increase triumphs
I got it in 3 pinnacle runs
Can’t wait for a stasis exotic bow seeing how good bow exotics usually are
This, but also a Strand bow. Something about linking targets together with the threads and shared fates or something.
the ager's scepter is such a powerful statis weapon right now. It would be interesting for another exotic to change that
Just give it chill clip and it'll be bonkers, sprinkle in some exotic flavor and ship it
Think of Ganyu's charged shot from Genshin as a Stasis bow.
@@Ryees9 Tether
if you use path of the burning steps youll be able to one shot warmind cells and get a bigger ring more consistently plus a huge damage buff just from getting kills
Gotta try that. Been to busy with it on my hunter with assassin's cowl 😁
I have been one shooting warmind cells without any damage buff. What are you talking about.
@@swizzywaffles2478 what?
@@swizzywaffles2478 The IN thing for hunters right now is the new void mg with busted volatile rounds. It pumps way more dps than a linear fusion currently.
@@JohnFreedman0 I know that my dude. Got the crafted god roll 😁 Just meant that I'm mainly using the HoN with my solar hunter and assassin's cowl and didn't try it on a titan with path of burning steps for the damage boost
Quick note: catalyst is a guaranteed drop from master.
From final boss or do you need a full clear?
@@kylemccready5081 just the final boss
@@kylemccready5081 Final boss, but you may as well do a full clear as it's honestly super fun to do.
@@kylemccready5081 Full clear isn't required. Final boss is for sure required. Other than that, unless you want the Artifice armor, there's no point in doing Master.
Am I correct to assume that this comment implies completion of the normal version has a chance of dropping?
Finally, I can form an opinion on this weapon
same
@@dusk2308 don’t care
@@okthisisepic9218 same
@@y66502 don't care
@@damonte1127 same
Still sad this didn't get the ghorn treatment of buffing other bows. It would've made it feel unique vs just being ticcus but warmind themed
Cool idea but I like the ring thing too. Maybe should have made it Stasis or something to separate it a bit.
@@mcgikle but he is talking about the ring. It should make all legendary bows that shoot through the ring get the two explosive arrows, that would be very cool to play around in nightfalls
@@tiagonicolodi2237 That would be perfect.
That would be a good buff for it. Or even if it just buffed the range or damage of any weapon that fired through the ring.
@@underscore_5450no💯
Actually got it today. My first time soloing a dungeon. I didn't realize it had to be all at the same time... so I ran it again, and got it flawless, and the bow
It isn’t just some nice rng on your end
Wait. 2 runs on the same day with the same character?
Just got it today! So excited to use this. Makes it feel like your Odysseus when he shot his arrow through the axes. So cool! Good luck to those still hunting you’ll get it soon!
I think Grandmaster Nightfalls may represent a chance for Hierarchy to shine... There are moments in Grandmaster Nightfalls where you must remain stationary to defend. And Hierarchy might fulfill that purpose since it can easily track and destroy enemies from a distance. For example, "The Corrupted": At the final boss of the strike, have somebody with Hierarchy stay behind and shoot all the taken to lighten up on AD control. "The Glassway" Strike, similar scenario but at the Vex pool draining part where multiple shanks descend and you have Hierarchy to take them down... Though it depends on what shields shanks have, but I do recall that the shank's shields are *solar*...
It is a bow that can be tricky to master but definitely interesting...
But there's just better options, it wouldnt make sense.
@@TheGrimmReefer42 bruh fuck better options I’m tired of the same handful of weapons in every GM, if someone wants to try something that might very well work, let them! “bEtteR opTioNs” how about I blow your back out? Does that sound like a better option?
@@whiterose2321 just use ticcus bruh, it ain't that hard and it aint that used.
Just ran an easy GM with this bow. Was not that good. Granted, I got it literally 1.5 hours ago and didn't run for the catalyst.
@@raved2death the catalyst is as mandatory to this bow as trinity ghouls
Run it with well of radiance and the fragment that makes solar super kills explode = amazing
Its definitely one of those weapons where it gets better the higher end of content you play. Like glaives, machine guns, and of course bows in general
The bow not 1-shotting warmind cells is so counter intuitive, you'd think with such a cool unique interaction they thought about making it actually usable.
i really love this bow but it does feel a bit too clunky and its setup effort vs reward isn't quite there yet, i'd love to see it getting some buffs in the future.
I don’t think it’s intentional tho. It definitely needs a bit of a design change to make it stand out from Ticuu or Outbreak. Perhaps the ring should allows other bows shooting through to spawn the heat seeking missiles as well ALA Gjallahorn. Alternatively it can go with damage buff per stack. Says hip fire always creating the ring but the strength of the missiles and the duration of the ring depends on how many stack we have, etc.
Mine has been one shotting cells.
Also how is the reward not there? It’s the highest DPS primary in the game.
@@RobGThaino it works with itself fine as is just like outbreak no need to do this
@@RobGThai I mean simply making it stasis and giving it some kind of slow/freeze effect would've been enough to make it stand on its own. Have the arrows/rockets shot thru the ring apply slow stacks or freeze targets and you've got an instant hit of a weapon - first exotic stasis bow and a unique, powerful stasis gameplay loop.
That and not having any kind of champion interaction kinda kills it for me - which I acknowledge is a stupid reason but that's where we're at in the game with champs saturating difficult content. Way too much overlap here with Ticuus.
glad all the exotic bows get to be bangers, nice consistency
Been waiting for the Datto breakdown. 😊
the huge ring with warmind cells is a really cool hidden interaction!
Still have to grind out my catalyst. Thanks for the video I wasn't sure how it worked. Awesome video 👍😎
Use this with Boots of the Assembler and a Radiant/Restoration build so you can camp in your rift and stay with your Rings.
I did not realise that it had such an interaction with warmind cells O: Now I definitely want to put on a warmind cell mod and have fun with it, it's the first time a bow has appealed to me so greatly just from it's design and gameplay, it can be tough to make it work in such an ability heavy sandbox and when there's so many other options that feel more rewarding for way less effort but I still want to play with it.
Will certainly be trying to complete a master run for the catalyst soon as I am able to! Great Video Mr Trv, enjoyed it a ton :D
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So much for the cool tie-in with warmind cells. RIP.
FASHION TIME DATTO!! Need to see what your rocking in 2023!
I enjoyed this video and your input. Video interaction.
Yep I have it with that catalyst and it is very good in this weeks nightfall. I was using it on master.
I'm kinda confused as to why they would add the special interactions with warmind cells just to remove them entirely in lightfall I wonder if there will be new way to proc the new big ring
I mean, it makes sense that they removed warmind cells since Rasputin no longer exists
@@venatorgd5099 I agree it makes sense but why add a special interaction for 1 season
@@ceesechake7159 yeah, that doesn't make sense
@@venatorgd5099wait, what happened to rasputin?
@@clearestt6414 you missed season 19, right?
Yeah it's nearly perfect in my eyes how it is, this is a good vid to summarize what I've been trying to explain to my friends on how it feels. You brought up some really good points about how the damage should scale with range and not just increase suddenly. The warmind cell not being one shot also stinks. I also believe warmind cells you pick up with and throw with grasp of the warmind don't offer the big ring either. Have to do some more testing on that.
I just got it yesterday so thank u for uploading a video for me to have an opinion
Imagine if the big ring gave you the bonus damage no matter the range
They need to fix that because saying you need to be 40 from the target is insane considering most bosses are really close.
@@adjcsee4476 40 meters is for the full damage buff. You still get a damage buff from closer distances. I can consistently get 22-25k damage per headshot at normal ranges.
Thank you for formulating my opinion on this exotic (I haven’t touched D2 since Rasputin was introduced in it)
40 metres does seem like a really far distance.
Thanks for the grasp boss reference.
Been chasing this for the last week.
Biggest problem with it is that weapons, except for bosses and anti-champ mods , weapons are basically optional in PvE content.
I like the bow. I think it’s good. Just hard to use it over Witherhoard unless you just “feel” like using it.
seems like a great option for the people without catalyst for witherhoard though.. i am one of those people and holy christ it is actually horrible to use witherhoard without it.
I hate saying it but abilities need to be reigned in, plus things like Jolt. Just trivializes adds and makes everything non threatening
@@jerryballstein I don’t even remotely disagree.
It’s crazy that you get all these really good add clearing weapons that people will still use just because (Ostio Striga, Trinity Ghoul [well the buff to it), Ticuu’s) but they serve very little purpose because of ability spam and the big 3 of volatile (when it’s put on weapons by abilities), Incandescent and Jolt.
When you’re not using abilities non-stop these 3 things are as strong as exotics.
I understand their push towards casual (which I’m not the biggest fan of) but their is a difference between casual and for straight up children.
I can’t wait to get this bow I’m just dreading doing the masters with a lfg
I got it on my first run and damn I plan on using it more often it's just have been levelling up my craftables. I still need the catalyst
Just got mine last night🥳 under 10 runs!
The larger Warmind Cell rings seems to be tied more to distance than anything. I was able to trigger it through another ring, but it only ever seemed to work if the cell was closer than around 15 meters, regardless of currently active rings.
Just got it this week too 🎉
I got this drop on my first ever run. Have thousands of kills with it. Very happy to finally know if I like it or not!
I think this is the first time I noticed how insane the symbol is on the UI. Holy chonk
It's probably a gitch but if your running it with an anti barrier champion mod, the extra seeking shots don't peirce barriers they just bounce off while the arrow itself goes through
i have this thing and i love it. its my baby boy i put on when i feel like having fun with my favorite loadouts. hierarchy, wastelander, and my roar of the bear, with my sunspot path of burning steps titan build. plus the sound design is pure asmr goodness.
side note, i got this my like 3rd clear, the first time doing it after getting all the logs. i then training montaged to do master, and finally i have achieved zen.
This is catastrophically badass 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
Agree hard on the catalyst, I wanted to use it so bad when I first got it but it being so slow was a massive drag especially after using the super fats and snappy under your skin constantly. The catalyst feels incredible and I find myself using this weapon because it really feels like an exotic, moreso than a lot of others. Playing around it is fun, it's perfect in Heist BG level difficulty stuff, shredding waves of enemies while my teammates watch everything burn is awesome. Like mentioned it takes knowing your encounters, but using it at the right ones it's just great and I honestly find it hard to switch to other primary weapons currently. I'm bored of all the ability spam so this bow really just hits right
One note as well, it can make warmind cells with explosive wellmaker 👍
I love this thing so much
Bungie continues to amaze me with how creative they are when designing exotics. Each one has its own way of getting me excited to grab something new.
The best use case I can think of for this bow is day one caretaker. Imagine being able to chain rings with your teammates for each of those little pools at the top floor. You're far away for the first one, and you're getting closer and closer when you have no ammo left
Could be viable, Touch of malice would probably still be better.
I’ve always been quite pleased with my massive ring
Glad a TH-camr shows of the big ring cause of the war Mind
I do wonder if Warmind Cells will see a rework of some kind come Lightfall, and I assume it'd tie into this bow quite a bit if so.
They're getting vaulted
Wish this was a quest exotic as I still haven’t had one drop even with the drop bonuses (except the master completion one waiting to get the bow to streamline the catalyst)
I think the problem with shooting through a ring not making the big ring is actually an issue of range. If the arrow makes the ring before it registers contact with the warmind cell (by virtue of the cell being very far away), it'll make a small ring, as the game hadn't yet realized you blew up a cell. This kinda sucks, because you usually want to use this bow at long ranges.
I just really like how sometimes when you pull out the bow, you can hear old rasputin from it
This thing may be really good in corrupted and glassway. Also maybe insight terminus
It's so hard for me to put down my trinity ghoul, but I'm hoping to use this more once I get the catalyst!
PLEASE DONT DO IT QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
its worth a try
See Trinity Ghoul is just boring imo. It's become so strong it's not interesting to use. You can shoot the floor and wipe a room of adds, not really engaging
I think the damage buff could be nice for select persnickety sniper champions, for builds where you don’t have arbalest/it isn’t a barrier champ
We did a HoN only Caretaker and Taniks kill yesterday. Imagine hitting over a million damage with just a primary.
I would like to see the DPS done with 3 people using it in Spire on 2nd encounter, since the boss moves farther away from you....i feel like there is some sort of build with Warmind cells that people haven't figured out yet which makes this a monster. Only reason I can think of for why they made all the mods accessible all of a sudden. Most newer players aren't going to have Warmind mods, so I think they are hoping someone figures this out.
They made all the mods accessible because they’re removing a huge portion of our current mod pool come lightfall. It’s a last chance for people who never got certain mods to play with them before they’re gone.
I can't help but think about the weapon Lightning Blast from Gunfire Reborn whenever I use this thing. Unlike Lightning though, this bow is damn fun to use, and I just wish the ring was more sphere-like, similar to the field LB creates, so the weapon could have more flexibility when you and your ring get rushed down by trash mobs, or when you accidentally spawn the ring at an awkward angle or position, since the ring travels a small distance from you before spawning fully.
..on second thought, that would probably enable a worst-case situation where you could just stand inside the sphere and aim anywhere for free buffed arrows, so this concept would probably need more work
I bet it’s a blast in the leviathan activity when the bosses slowly walk towards you and the ads spawn around them.
I wonder how it compares damage wise to the wish-ender. The wish ender basically does 3x the damage of a normal bow because of the multi hit mechanic and the after hits do the same damage as a crit and this also does 3x the damage as a normal bow when you're 40m+ away.
Ya Wishender does nearly as much damage as a Revision Zero sniper shot. It doesn't have as many flashy features as this one but that thing is a damn monster
Took this into the Scarlet Keep GM and it was nasty
the fact that this can create warmind cells is gold
Gave us a Stasis Bow that creates a dusk field when firing a charged up bow. The field contains crystals and any shot can shatter the crystals for damage.
Make it amazing at crowd control - as it’s the identity of Stasis!
A Strand bow could follow the same charged shot can do a thing sort of plan but it could be something bonkers like a grapple joint that the bow can utilize!
Biggest missed opportunity with this bow is not making it Stasis when Ticuus already exists and basically fills the same role. The charged ring is a very unique idea...but a homing explodey arrow solar bow already exists.
I just got it today too :)
I wished the ring would work like the titans citan’s ramparts…strong in pve and very situational in pvp
I hope there's a strand bow which has some interaction with the grappling hook.
Also, is it just me, or is every exotic bow pretty solid in some form right now.
Wishender is super solid, heavy hitting and consistent damage
Ticcu's is super useful for ad clear and has good damage.
Lemon is just insane at what it does
Trinity Ghoul is the second best ad clear primary (osteo + necrotic grips makes me hard)
Hierarchy has the best primary dps rn, which gives it a solid position in terms of primaries, even if it is a bit clunky
even Levi's Breath has solid damage and can stunlock a shit ton of enemy types.
With Heirachy's need to stay stationary, I wish the Guidance Ring provided some type of psuedo barricade that at the very least reduced incoming projectile damage.
I love bows but I'll take my lament over this everytime.
I hope I can get the bow next week, feels really bad havin all the dungeon triumphs done and not having it hands on it Lmao. Thing looks nuts. I’d retire my ticuus for it
When u fire through the ring u don’t need to draw the arrow fully, u can aim and just spam it much much faster and still get the tracking missiles to proc 👍🏻
wish i had people to run spire with more often. i really want this bow!
Just solo it or use LFG. Plenty of chill no mic runs on there
If only I could get my hands on it. I got my cowboy hat before this thing, just can't get it to drop. Look like a blast to use though.
Getting this bow took me since the encounter dropped, all my characters for at least 5 weeks
Trinity Ghoul with arc buffs is by far the nastiest ad clearing bow by far. Orb/well generation gives you a full super in half the cd time. And it does quite a bit of damage on its own too.
This weapon (HoN) will be fun for Lost sector and grand master activities for long ranged snipers and barrier champions.
Hierarchy is a great example of a potent weapon that has a high skill ceiling (ie. requires more skill from the player to reach it's full potential) - which is great! We have so many weapons (cough, cough, old divinity) that was very potent and extremely easy to use (ie. high skill floor). Hope more people interact with warmind cells (I still use them in NFs/GMS), just wish for a few more weapons to proc them.
Which is funny because this bow doesnt even spawn warmind cells. It only spawns them because it has explosives on it.
@@snottytoe6957 I know. Wish it and the seraph weapons created them at base. But having the explosions proc it is pretty fine tho, imo.
I think it's worth stating that even if you don't get the long range bonus damage it still chunks hard, while going from 19,195 damage per shot to 24,703 per shot is a nice boost of about 30% more damage, I don't think it's a make or break kind of thing.
But yeah it would be nice if it was more of a gradual ramp up rather than an on/off type of thing.
I dont think it will even be a backup, since it competes with outbreak, and that thing combos with quick charge, which means more special for the whole team.
I got it on Tuesday finally!
After clearing it with every character since it came out.
Turn the ring into a sphere and put in a range calculator to see how far you are away or better decrease the range to like 20
Warmind cells and all the other mods are getting a overhaul in lightfall. Personal think this weapon is gonna shine a lot when light fall comes with warmind cells
There is a gun in warframe that has a mechanic where you alt fire to shoot our an orb and shooting through it buffs you.
I wasn't aware of big hole.
I love Hierarchy, but it does feel clunky at times; the neutral draw time is really long, the ring will spawn if I shoot while ADS but de-scope as the arrow is being launched, I have to debilitate myself by ADS'ing if I don't want to waste my ring (who actually ADS's with bows outside of 50+ meters?), the exotic perk is essentially nullified at close ranges (the seekers don't lock on a lot, enemies can just walk in front of the ring, you don't get bonus damage), you're a sitting duck behind the ring, it's all a mess. But when it gets going it's a huge power trip.
Also, the arrows overpenetrate like Wish-Ender which I haven't seen anyone talk about (no broad-head bonus damage but you can hit a target behind another target)
I’d be a lot more interested in this weapon if the catalyst would let you make a second ring and you could stack them for more bonus damage.
I feel like Hierarchy is one step away from being too complicated to make use of consistently.
I think I’ll stick to Outbreak for my exotic primary, it’s never done me dirty and doesn’t require the stars to be aligned.
it’s a minigame within the game using this. so if you’re into that you’ll love it
Does Incandescent proc Warmind cells? Then Ticuu's and Calus Mini-Tool could make for even more amazing primaries with their solar splash.
It wasn't until Datto was talking about warmind cells that i realized how old this video was LMAO
I created a stasis build with this bow, and it is by far THE MOST fun I’ve had with any build
Why stasis?
God, come on bungie, I need a badass stasis bow already! Crossing my fingers for lightfall!
I got mine on the first run.
It would also be really cool if it had built in anti champion, like anti barrier if you shoot through the ring
ov or unstop would be nice considering theres a bunch of ab already
Wait datto you got it in weeks wow, I got it on my first run of spire
I feel like it’ll get it’s shine is light fall with the landscape and city
The ring should act like titan shoot threw shield. Also the draw time needs to be faster. It feels so slow
Took me 25x clears working on the cata now
Is nobody gonna notice the acolyte picking up and carrying the warming cell at 9:35?
I love this bow
One of the things I think people mess up with this bow is spamming hip fire through the ring. You’ll build up stacks for your next ring while shooting through the first, and if you spam hip fire you will accidentally launch your next ring too far out in front of you or in an inconvenient place. With this bow you gotta post up near cover, intentionally place your ring, then shoot through until you can intentionally place another. Don’t just run around spamming or you’ll waste rings where you don’t need them. When used correctly I find it way better than ticcus, and it’s use case comes up fairly often in hard content
Got this 3rd run and it just sits in my vault
Yeah I was thinking this bow would be great for Titan's who are a pretty stationary class. I move around way to much to get use at the moment lol