Stuttgart Trams 1975 & 81 Silent Movie
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2018
- 17 Minutes. The Stuttgart Tramway has been totally transformed since 1975, including the conversion to Standard Gauge, line diversions and closures plus new tunnel sections.
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What a gem for people like me, who grew up with and still love the old Stuttgart teams. Thank you so much!!
In the 1970s, most German tramways had fairly similar trams mostly painted cream and the landscape was mostly flat. Stuttgart was clearly very different and so, very interesting. While the upgrade to standard gauge has proven beneficial, the Tramway has lost some of its interesting features.
This Movie, brings sweet memories back.
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Danke für die tollen Impressionen meiner Stadt und für die Erinnerung meiner Jugendzeit wie es damals ausgesehen hat 😎👍❤
Freut mich! 😊👍
Nemzoi baz har jisch jazar!Nohcho!
I love this video!!! Thank you so much for uploading!!!!!! It's Gold.
That’s how I feel about it too. Germany has many tramways but Stuttgart especially in metre gauge days was something very special. I also have a video of Stuttgart from 1984 but I’m not sure that there is much interest. Interest in this video not been as great as I would have thought.
Thanks for the video. Brings back memories on the old tram lines in Stuttgart... I used to live in the Stuttgart area from 1982 until 1997. Today only the historic tram line 23 still runs as a special service on some days on one meter gauge, the rest is converted to standard gauge and a lot of new lines and tunnels have been built. The last one meter gauge line was the route 15 from Heumaden via Ruhbank, Charlottenplatz, Hauptbahnhof, Nordbahnhof, Pragsattel, Zuffenhausen to Stammheim. It was converted in 2007 to standard gauge.
😊👍 I know just a little about the 23. Great that the tracks have been kept.
@@tressteleg1 by the way, if you want to see the GT4 from Stuttgart in regular service today, you need to go to Arad in Romania. And in Germany some GT4 from Freiburg are still in regular service in Halberstadt. They seem to be indestructable :)
I was well aware that many GT4s found their ways to other countries after their Stuttgart lives. Unfortunately one way or another, I don’t expect to be making any more European trips and certainly not while Covid is running amok there.
Wunderschön die Aufnahmen. Ein echtes Juwel und Zeitdokument. Macht mir klar, wie mühevoll und aufwendig der ganze Umbau damals in den 70er und folgenden Jahren war. Die alten gelben Wägen vermisse ich sehr. Das ganze wirkt wie eine Zeitreise und Stuttgarts alte Straßenbahnen wirken wie Lissabons Tram-28 heute. Ganz herzlichen Dank für s Einstellen. Gruss aus Simmozheim
Vielen Danke 👍. Es gibt mehr aus Stuttgart und Deutschland hier!
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Schöne alte Aufnahmen und überraschend für mich die Königstraße, die ich bislang nur als Fußgängerzone kannte. Aber wie ich nachgelesen habe, ist die 1977 zur Fußgängerzone umgebaut worden und damals war ich noch nicht einmal im Kindergarten. An den typischen Sound der GT4 erinnere ich mich dafür noch gut, da eine Großmutter in Zuffenhausen in der Nähe von so einer Linie gewohnt hatte. Wirklich ein schönes Zeitdokument.
Ja, damals war es viel besser in Stuttgart
Ja, Mehr Spaß mit GT4 und Straße Verkehr 😊 (aber langsamer ☹️)
Danke. Schön zu sehen, dass einige heute noch existierende Geschäfte schon damals "genauso" aussahen :D
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🍀Wunderschön! DANKE für dieses *Fenster in die Vergangenheit* ✅ 😁👌🍀😁 🇮🇹 Ciao LIKE#75👍 *FULL VIEW*
Ich bin Frohe das sie sehen gern diese video. Haben sie auch ‘Stuttgart Trams 1984’ gesehen? 😊👍
Guten Tag! 🍀 not yet, but as soon as I have time I will watch your videos! BY THE WAY.... take a look to my channel there are a few video with trams from Budapest (Hungary) Greetings Hector! Ciao.
Impressive throwback to my childhood.
😊👍 if you want to see more Stuttgart videos from earlier days, you can find them here.
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Thank you so much, it´s beautiful history!
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Sehr schön, diese alten Aufnahmen. Danke dafür!
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I was born in Stuttgart and grew up there, so what shall I say - this is sensational. And it's not an illusion - Stuttgart was in fact one giant construction site back then.
I’m pleased you liked it. At present video from 1984 and 1986 are being worked upon by guys in the Stuttgart region. They will be posted sometime when ready.
Vielen Dank für das schöne Video
😊👍. Bald kommt ein neuer Video ‘Stuttgart Tram Museum 1986’. ‘In Bau’ heute 😄
Thanks for the Upload :-)
This is really bringing back memories.
Just one small correction: the train seen at 4:30 is not city bound, its destiny is Botnang. The train thats coming downhill in that same shot is the one heading downtown, as you can see in the next shot, showing that 2nd train again crossing the Gäubahn.
Thanks. One or two Stuttgarters checked it but never noticed, I believe. And my visits were too brief to learn anything definite about the geography.
Ein schönes Zeitdokument und meine Erinnerung an die Landhausstraße, wobei wir dann umgezogen sind nach Cannstatt, wegen eben dem Tram Lärm. Das gepoltere spürte man bis in den 5. Stock hoch. Da spielten die Kickers noch in der 2. Liga und der VFB kickte noch im Neckarstadion.
Ich bin Australien von Gold Coast Queensland. Ich spreche Faust kein Deutsch. Aber meisten der Deutsche kann Englisch verstehen.
Danke für das Video, da werden alte Erinnerungen wach.
Ich lebte in Stuttgart von 1960 bis 1989.
Im Jahr 1973 wohnte ich ganz in der nähe der Zahnradbahn-Brücke (Video Min 9:15).
Ja, Stuttgart Straßenbahnen mit meterspur 👍👍
Sehe auch mein Stuttgart Straßenbahnen 1984 (mit Ton).
G'day, really GREAT cinema ! Only as a very small addition: the stop name (on rt. N° 6) seen min 9:09 was "Karl-Pfaff-Straße". The nearby stop "Nägelestraße" is/was only used by rt. N° 30 (nowadays rt. N° 10).
I relied on 2 local people to help me with this. Maybe they missed it. I certainly knew little about the scenes.
Gutes Video!
Danke Schön!
Ob man wohl in 50 Jahren mit derselbigen Nostalgie auf Stuttgart 21 zurückschauen wird?
Ich glaube nicht!
Ich war 1975 in Stuttgart, war damals 22 Jahre jung. War bei einer Schulung von ic Eckhard. KREUTZBALGREGLER
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@@tressteleg1 kennst du die Firma?. Lange ist es her
@@jochen4948 Nein, nicht in Australien.
Damals war alles schöner ich wünschte ich könnte in der Zeit Leben
Für Strassenbahn Freunden, Besser Tagen!!!
Ich fand’s auch schöner als heute. Zumindest konnte ich meine späte Jugend anfangs der 80er noch verbringen...
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Ach, welch schöne Erinnerungen, vielen Dank!!
Die Königstraße mit der Baustelle, die alte Zacke, die Werbetafeln, die Autos, die Frisuren, die O-Busse, ...
War das nicht erst gestern?
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Ganz toller Film! :-) Stuggi 0711
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sehr schoen
Seehen sie auch Stuttgart Trams 1984 (mit Ton)
I think those trams had to get stronger motors only to climb the hills in Stuttgart. As a child, I used the 14 or 15 to Plieningen often, later, I lived in Vaihingen. And there is a song about number 5 by Wolle Kriwanek. The „Zacke“ (cogwheel) still runs today. The test if someone lived there at that time is if they can say where this was printed on „Vergiß nicht Deinen Hugendubel“
Andreas Delleske Perhaps that is why I liked Stuttgart - their trams were largely unique, not the mass produced types used elsewhere. So I suppose the engineers chose electric motors strong enough for the job. I certainly remember the Hugendubel signs inside the trams during my visit!
The Zahnradbahn, 9:15 , is still only driving during day time.
Greetings from the Alte Weinsteige🙋🏼♀️
I had heard earlier that the rack only runs daytime. I suppose taxi or bus is used at night due to light loadings and the noise close to houses.
See also my Stuttgart tram videos from 1984 and 1986. A later one will be done sometime.
@@tressteleg1 They had a taxi (Linientaxi) driving the line at night.
Since recently, they use a smaller bus (Zackebus) to fit in more passengers.
Both work with a regular tram ticket.
Thanks for the extra information!
Danke Stuttgart fur my Mercedes W 163 !!!!! Salute from russian far-east city VLadivostok !!!!
Mercedes does make good cars.
I live in Australia so it is nice that a Russian has watched my video 😊👍
Wie geil! Woher hast Du diese Bilder / Filme? Gruss aus Benztown!
Ich bin der Kameramann. Film Kodak Standard 8.
Very interesting video, nicely presented. I have never seen a true 'rack' tram before that actually ran in the streets. I know the Swiss and several other countries have small 'rack' trains due to their hills, - was this unique.?
I can’t say that I ever made a point of looking for rack lines but certainly this one which runs side of the road in suburbia is the only one I can think of like that. Anyway I’m happy that you liked the movie/video. Let’s hope a few more people watch and appreciate this tramway which was unlike any other in Germany, mainly because of its steep grades.
there are/were a few "tram-looking" rack railways. The one in Wuppertal was closed before this video was made, while the Sassi-Superga-Line (Torino/IT) still exists. There are also some others (Principe-Granarolo/IT, and perhaps some in Switzerland too).
The one in Stuttgart however has "Light-Rail-Lookalike"-cars since 1982, which themselves have reached the end of their lifecyle and are to be replaced by newer rack railway cars in the future.
However, the entire metre-gauge tram network was replaced by standard gauge, high-platform light rail system, so metre gauge is only used for museum trams nowadays (and currently mostly out-of-use due to construction works). So the rack railway is pretty much the last metre-gauge, regular revenue "tram" line in Stuttgart (with the exception of a funicular to one of the cementeries, taking about 500 metres of distance)
Thank-you for that information - most interesting. Personally I think the 'high platform' light rail system is funny. To go down a street that has high platforms here and there with the "trams" looking as if they should be boarded at ground level like all other modern tramways seems an odd idea to me.
Thank you for all that extra information. Apparently ridership went up somewhat with the gauge conversion and considerable segregation from road traffic so we must concede it successful even if the character of the metre gauge system was lost. I have not been to Europe since 1992 so lose track of later developments and was unsure of the extent of metre gauge track retained for museum trams. It’s amazing that any was kept, especially dual gauge, just for this. One thing is for sure - any tramway which hands over daily operations to an outside contractor is most unlikely to see any further museum operation.
Yes, high platforms in the street do look a bit odd but low floor did not exist when gauge conversion started here. As low floor trams do not ride as well as normal bogie cars, the use of high platforms, chosen for faster boarding instead of steps, is not such a bad decision.
17:10 never recognized that bus line 70 was so " sporty "
My hometown. I was born 1965 and I always remember these old tramways.
Also nice is the funicular in Stuttgart (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standseilbahn_Stuttgart)
I was 20 then 😄☹️. I knew of the funicular and in fact think I saw it, but chasing GT4s was always much more fun! Thanks for the link.
I miss my old sstttgart especially Bad Cannstatt Born and raised there
I can more or less understand how you feel. But at least you have some trams. Some of us lost all our trams.
@@tressteleg1 are you still in Stuttgartq? I've heard from friends it's a mess now with all that new Romanian and Bulgarian and all the so called "Gokdstücke" from Syria ırak Afghans and North Africans which Mama Merkel brought into Germany
No. I only ever visited Stuttgart briefly a few times over the years. We only hear very little about migrant problems in Europe. The media and politically correct people like to pretend that there are no problems there. So it is hard to know the truth. Have you seen my ‘Stuttgart Trams 1984” video?
@@tressteleg1 no but i'm gonna whach it thats my birth year 😂
Nice. Let me know how you go with it. I have more from later years but I won’t work on it until 1984 gets more views.
Lovely film. You know, I believe Stuttgart is the perfect “what if” for Santa Coloma de Gramanet if urbanisation in the 60s/70s wasn’t badly improvised. I know Stuttgart is waaaaay bigger than my city but, it has lots of very steep streets.
It has changed a lot since then. You may like my later videos, same title but for the years of 1984 and 1986.
@@tressteleg1 Yeah! Fantastic recordings as well!!
😊 The next and final one is in preparation at the moment but you will not see it for some weeks yet.
Wo genau ist das in Vaihingen an der Hauptstraße bei 14:10? Gibt es die Häuser noch? Sieht nicht so aus?
StYxXx Alle der zu sehnenden Häuser wurden abgerissen
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4:17 Near Bäckerei KLINSMANN :-)
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Wo ist meine 13er Kienbachstr😢
Ich Weiß nicht! Velliecht in meine video von 1984 oder 1986 😄
1:55: Jetzt wird es noch geiler! Meine Mama hat bei Team Ostermann im Hauptbüro an der Königstrasse gearbeitet :-) Hr. Lame` war der Boss und Frau Barbara Ostermann eine Frau von Welt! Das war damals noch faire Zeitarbeit und nicht der Schrott von heute.
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The largest Meter Gauge Tram Network was in the Ruhrgebiet in Germany. This was going between a lot of Cities like Dortmund, Herne, Recklinghausen, Bochum, Essen and a few smaller not so knowed Cities
At it's best time the Network had a length of over 400 Kilometers. From 1960 to 1990 all the lines where closed down and now Busses serve the lines or a few have been coverted to Light Railways
I suppose one could argue whether a large number of city tram networks which connected to a neighbour or two was a network as such. In 1975 I did some town hopping to get from ‘A to Z’. I don’t put it in the same category of the former Belgian vicinal which was all under one management and some journeys in a single tramcar were quite long and fast. Nevertheless the breaking down of both networks is just another proof that the world is becoming less and less interesting.
Insane how so many German cities were making what were basically metros while all the other countries genocided their trams.
While some German cities put a lot of effort into putting their trams into tunnels in the city in past decades, it was later realised that many people are much more likely to hop on a tram when they see one coming down the street and ride for a few stops rather than go underground and hope for the best. Karlsruhe has recently put at least some of the city trams underground simply because there were too many of them on the surface. As for abandoning tramways, this was worst in the English speaking world although France, Greece and Spain were pretty thorough at doing this with Japan not too far behind.
da war i no jung!
Ich auch!
Da sind die Türken und die wenigen Araber noch mit Ford Granada, Transit, Opel Rekord und sowas gefahren. Heute treiben sie uns mit Profilierungsfahrten und dem Krach ihrer AMG-Mercedes und M-BMW in die Verzweiflung.
It sounds like those migrants adapted very well to their wealthier life in Germany 😊😄😆
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Thank you very much! I guess that you are from Italy. I first visited there and have movie film of Napoli, Roma,Torino, Milano and Genova from those days, but probably not a real lot. Later visits included video. But as most of my viewers are Australian, like most Rail fans they are little interested in overseas countries. So I rarely ‘waste’ my time doing overseas systems. I don’t know why the DDR video suddenly became very popular. Stuttgart 1975 took a long time to get going and 1984 is still weak so until 1984 gets a lot more views, I won’t do 1986.
I’ll take a look at your Budapest when I get time. I took a lot of video there in 1989 but have no plans for it now for the reasons above. All the Best👍😊
yes I'm from Naples, but live in Germany! is ok my friend, I understand... your spectators are lovers of trains and trams! and do not like other video formats or themes. 😁 Well... with the GDR Trams I think have more visualisation, because the audience want to see how it once looked, "behind the wall" and not only, the tram. forgive my bad english. Ciao ✅ 😁👌
I am running out of old Australian movie and video topics so do want to throw in occasional overseas topics. I have movie of the END which ran near Stuttgart and Neunkirchen which both closed in the 1970s. They have already been put into iMovie but only need locations to be named. But would anybody be interested??