I really appreciate you putting this stuff out there. I’m someone who’s been making my own art from scratch and I really want to learn to use ai better. I’m good at learning myself, but I gotta know what I need to learn first. So I like these videos that are a list of tools needed.
Thanks for commenting. Good to know a quick run through and list of different tools is of interest, there are so so many tools. I keep meaning to get into the habit of listing more on the AI software directory over at aianimation.com. Good luck with all your future art creation. 👍
I still haven't seen any outputs from any of the video generators that are good enough to sell commercially, even the ones that were cherry picked. Sora looks interesting but I feel it's going to be another one of those "too good to be true" scenarios. Can it actually be controlled or is it just another AI Video vending machine where you get what the AI gives you and not what your clients asked for? I remember doing a job generating an image in Midjourney for a client. I burned through all my credits in a day trying to get the right look. I ended up doing a 3D model (it was a room) and it took half the time I spend in MJ.
I don't disagree at all. Sora may be expenseive, slow and inconsistent ... I think we have a long way to go still. But Sora and similar tools will still showcase stunning work, if not always that controllable. :-) ... I gave up on MidJourney the other day and modeled a scene myself too as I needed exact levels of control.
Any thoughts on the subscription model that all these pop up AI companies come to market with dude? I'm just an AI hobbyist, but for me to continue my hobby at the current rate, it could quite easily hit £400-500 a month in subscriptions to all the different companies with different features they offer that I might only occasionally use, which is a ridiculous amount for an amateur, you know? I was looking at one AI company the other week, I've forgotten which one, but it was like £299 a MONTH, and if I remember rightly, that only got you 60 minutes of credits, that was the extreme case, but I've seen quite a few that are £60-100 a month, with the average monthly price around £25 it seems Do you think once the dust settles in the AI marketplace those prices will come right down to a more affordable level for all, or is the subscription model doomed to fail over time once the tech improves and the mere mortals like myself with average pc processing power can do it all locally on their own pc's? Cheers man, thanks for your insight into all this
Hey, yeah I 100% relate to the constant 'urghhh' of the subscription models for all these tools. I get that they have to charge due to the cost of processing intensive AI things in the cloud. I think we'll continue see some split between processes run via online services with these subscription fees for a long time. Probably forever as it works, but some are prohibitively expensive unless you're producing paid work. Though I do wonder how long the newer small startups have before the big players, with capital like OpenAI / Microsoft, Adobe, Google, Meta and 'possibly' MidJourney roll out better versions of each AI tool (or buyout the smaller ones) in the 2D, 3D and audio space all integrated into their own platforms. At which point prices may come down as they compete with one another to try to win marketshare. I think Adobe, who've been able to include generative AI via Photoshop and Illustrator, (plus shown what they have in the works) and keep it as part of the normal Creative Cloud subscription has been good value for professionals. Though I do wonder if they'll have to include some credits type offering in the future. Then there are things you can do locally, i.e. via ComfyUI with Stable Diffusion and Stable Video/Animated Diff. Which is great and things have improved and got faster as models/coding has improved and allowed users on lower spec machines to make use of the tools. Plus, whilst it's not cheap, I do like the old fashioned one off fee that things like Topaz Video AI charge for their software which you cna then run locally. (*assuming they don't just issue a new version and stop stop supporting old versions too quickly).
@@AIAnimationStudio Aye, it's just business at the end of the day, not art unfortunately, so my guess would be the big players with deep pockets will want to crush their competition, so might be able to operate at a loss and sustain those losses just to kill off the smaller start ups, I hope not, but that's my understanding of the 'business world' if you know what I mean? If things continue at this rate, we'll all be getting our AI fix from Amazon, as well as our food, clothes, cars, and when we're ill, we'll go to the Amazon AI Doctor, before they rename Earth...Planet Amazon, still, at least they gave us a choice of which political party to vote for...Amazon or Google ha ha Cheers my man, interesting times ahead, I just hope art triumphs over business though as generally the two are rarely compatible
Fair. It's the first of these sorts of videos I've done on the channel compared to the normal deep dive into some animation workflow which take days to resesrch, test and make. This was a helluva lot easier to make 😀. Hopefully the odd one, if helpful to a few is worth it.
I get it and it's hard to know what to focus on with so much new tech on its way. For Sora though, it's not out yet, and may not be available for 6+ months, we just don't know yet. We also don't yet know how consistent or quick it will be for sure. Plus how expensive it will be to use. Rumours suggest it could take 1 hour for a 1 minute clip to generate, (*given current tech), with limited control over the output. So multiple generations could be needed to get something you actually want. So it's use case will be pretty limited for profesional work. There's a long way to go and I think tools offering more control will still have an important role for a long long long time. But ... no one knows for sure .. it changes so quickly.
I really appreciate you putting this stuff out there. I’m someone who’s been making my own art from scratch and I really want to learn to use ai better. I’m good at learning myself, but I gotta know what I need to learn first. So I like these videos that are a list of tools needed.
Thanks for commenting. Good to know a quick run through and list of different tools is of interest, there are so so many tools. I keep meaning to get into the habit of listing more on the AI software directory over at aianimation.com. Good luck with all your future art creation. 👍
I still haven't seen any outputs from any of the video generators that are good enough to sell commercially, even the ones that were cherry picked. Sora looks interesting but I feel it's going to be another one of those "too good to be true" scenarios. Can it actually be controlled or is it just another AI Video vending machine where you get what the AI gives you and not what your clients asked for? I remember doing a job generating an image in Midjourney for a client. I burned through all my credits in a day trying to get the right look. I ended up doing a 3D model (it was a room) and it took half the time I spend in MJ.
I don't disagree at all. Sora may be expenseive, slow and inconsistent ... I think we have a long way to go still. But Sora and similar tools will still showcase stunning work, if not always that controllable.
:-) ... I gave up on MidJourney the other day and modeled a scene myself too as I needed exact levels of control.
@@AIAnimationStudioyou gave up on Mj? 😅 how did you make your own 3d model?
@@mancsy3262 . I think it was a pretty specific architecture scene I was after so modelled it in Cinema 4D (which I've used for 12+ years)
Love your videos
Thank You!
You're ahead of the game my friend. Thanks for sharing.
Ahead of the game would have been putting out this video a year ago. This is following a trend.
Any thoughts on the subscription model that all these pop up AI companies come to market with dude?
I'm just an AI hobbyist, but for me to continue my hobby at the current rate, it could quite easily hit £400-500 a month in subscriptions to all the different companies with different features they offer that I might only occasionally use, which is a ridiculous amount for an amateur, you know?
I was looking at one AI company the other week, I've forgotten which one, but it was like £299 a MONTH, and if I remember rightly, that only got you 60 minutes of credits, that was the extreme case, but I've seen quite a few that are £60-100 a month, with the average monthly price around £25 it seems
Do you think once the dust settles in the AI marketplace those prices will come right down to a more affordable level for all, or is the subscription model doomed to fail over time once the tech improves and the mere mortals like myself with average pc processing power can do it all locally on their own pc's?
Cheers man, thanks for your insight into all this
Hey, yeah I 100% relate to the constant 'urghhh' of the subscription models for all these tools. I get that they have to charge due to the cost of processing intensive AI things in the cloud. I think we'll continue see some split between processes run via online services with these subscription fees for a long time. Probably forever as it works, but some are prohibitively expensive unless you're producing paid work.
Though I do wonder how long the newer small startups have before the big players, with capital like OpenAI / Microsoft, Adobe, Google, Meta and 'possibly' MidJourney roll out better versions of each AI tool (or buyout the smaller ones) in the 2D, 3D and audio space all integrated into their own platforms. At which point prices may come down as they compete with one another to try to win marketshare.
I think Adobe, who've been able to include generative AI via Photoshop and Illustrator, (plus shown what they have in the works) and keep it as part of the normal Creative Cloud subscription has been good value for professionals. Though I do wonder if they'll have to include some credits type offering in the future.
Then there are things you can do locally, i.e. via ComfyUI with Stable Diffusion and Stable Video/Animated Diff. Which is great and things have improved and got faster as models/coding has improved and allowed users on lower spec machines to make use of the tools. Plus, whilst it's not cheap, I do like the old fashioned one off fee that things like Topaz Video AI charge for their software which you cna then run locally. (*assuming they don't just issue a new version and stop stop supporting old versions too quickly).
@@AIAnimationStudio Aye, it's just business at the end of the day, not art unfortunately, so my guess would be the big players with deep pockets will want to crush their competition, so might be able to operate at a loss and sustain those losses just to kill off the smaller start ups, I hope not, but that's my understanding of the 'business world' if you know what I mean?
If things continue at this rate, we'll all be getting our AI fix from Amazon, as well as our food, clothes, cars, and when we're ill, we'll go to the Amazon AI Doctor, before they rename Earth...Planet Amazon, still, at least they gave us a choice of which political party to vote for...Amazon or Google ha ha
Cheers my man, interesting times ahead, I just hope art triumphs over business though as generally the two are rarely compatible
Not interested in and sick of all these "how to make money" vids. How about doing things just because ist fun to do?
Fair. It's the first of these sorts of videos I've done on the channel compared to the normal deep dive into some animation workflow which take days to resesrch, test and make. This was a helluva lot easier to make 😀. Hopefully the odd one, if helpful to a few is worth it.
Making money is fun though
WIthout money you can never be happy
Since the release of Sora AI... I find videos like this irrelevant...
I get it and it's hard to know what to focus on with so much new tech on its way.
For Sora though, it's not out yet, and may not be available for 6+ months, we just don't know yet. We also don't yet know how consistent or quick it will be for sure. Plus how expensive it will be to use. Rumours suggest it could take 1 hour for a 1 minute clip to generate, (*given current tech), with limited control over the output. So multiple generations could be needed to get something you actually want. So it's use case will be pretty limited for profesional work.
There's a long way to go and I think tools offering more control will still have an important role for a long long long time.
But ... no one knows for sure .. it changes so quickly.