@@robertfalcone3025 the marketing team always make a point about kids being a "key" demographic and they are supposed to be a factor in what type of product is allowed on store shelves. Just pointing out that a contrary statement was made. Hasbro can offer whatever they want and they could easily sell the Marvel Legends in the entertainment section like NECA instead of the toy aisle.
Not a fan of these types of titles for bait. The community can be pretty hostile as it is. Not cool to stir the pot by “calling out” someone negatively when they’re just speculating on potential reveals
We’re constantly bringing up Dan and it’s also pretty often him and rich mention us. I’m sure he knew we’d have a 2 guys talking about 2 guys episode. We do it every time he talks to the team. He’ll be on the show eventually too.
Im more mad about the Xmanny87 drama where he tried to resell sentinels for 75 bucks each. When the community called him out he went into panic mode, deleted comments, turned off comments on his sentinel video, then made a response video calling everyone who called him out names and deflecting any blame. I unsubscribed and stopped watching him after he showed his true colors.
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Interesting ,he had a meltdown a few years ago when i didnt agree with his top ten list ( lame ) and he shut down his channel for several months after threatening to fight me 😄 . He made a video about me too
I don’t really watch any of his stuff. Mainly just don’t have the time and didn’t want to add another creator to want to follow. I did watch the video you’re talking about though and his drama with the predictions about the sentinels. Reselling I don’t care at all about. Jordan and I both have done a lot of that. I can understand comments bothering you but you have to be solid enough in yourself to not let it get to you so much you’re taking it out on the community.
I did not know that. I've been watching manny87 for a few years. I mean I hate to say it but it is the Internet I spose. As an older collector I just recently started collecting X-Men and the avengers (hulk,Thor,iron man antman and wasp). Keeping it what I consider silver/bronze age type of deco but yeah if there's a later version of a character that is just nice to me overall I may get it. A new psylocke is keeping us all in suspense being that they have that moonstone/warbird body they just need to make it. It might be a good figure. C'mon Hasbro don't poop the bed.💯 Please.
I would rather Hasbro produce fewer figures for the year and use all of the new pinless bodies as opposed to more figures using the Sunfire body mold or Pizza Spider-Man. It amazes me that for movie figures there are new sculpts in every wave but comic based figures have only had the Vulcan body and Renew Your Vows as the only new options. There is a big discrepancy in the sculpting budget for movie based figures when compared to the comic based figures. More than 70% of comic based figures are reused bodies with new head sculpts. The 85th anniversary program had nearly all of the new tooling for all of the products released this year.
We could and might do a whole episode on this topic. If they did go with the less figures and all newer bodies we wouldn’t have the depth to the line. We’d probably never see figures like orb, crystar, or frog man. The movie figures do get a bigger budget but the source also gets a bigger budget. Movies will always have more money than the paper comics. Additionally, most comic characters are in some kind of spandex suit so it really doesn’t make much sense to have new sculpting for some parts. Mcu costumes are always more detailed designs than the comic versions.
@thestrongcollectors Crystar, Frogman and Orb are all characters that benefit from having unique design elements and coincidentally Crystar and Frogman both received unique sculpting on both their figures. Compared to the greater Marvel Universe, these are D-list characters but they got new sculpted parts before a character as well known as Quicksilver. 🤔 Magneto's son is on the Sunfire body mold. Hasbro had a perfect opportunity to introduce a new leaner runner body mold that could have been similar in shape to the Amazing Fantasy Spider-Man body but taller. Most of the characters aren't wearing straight spandex. Hasbro is simply taking the easy route to produce the figures. Crystar gets a unique sculpt before 616 Iceman? Why wasn't Kazar on the Renew Your Vows body since he's athletic? Why isn't Hawkeye on the Vulcan body? Comic Clint Barton is taller than Steve Rogers. Why wasn't Namor pinless? I love Legends but Hasbro still cuts corners. I have collected this line since wave 1 of ToyBiz. Troop builders are put on the Bucky Cap and Sunfire bodies at a reduced price! I'm tired of paying full price for figures that are ten years old! Based on that logic Quicksilver is a troop builder! Wong got a new sculpt in the comic category and live action. Let that sink in. No figure other than Dracula got new tooling in the Strange Tales wave but Wong got a new sculpt in a two pack with Dr. Strange. Wong gets butterfly shoulders before Captain America and Namor? I'm going on too long.....I have been at this collecting thing for a long time. I just want a my money's worth is all. That and I want everyone to be honest and have fun. Toys haven't changed that much in the last 5 years
Didn’t Ryan say we had one more wolverine coming that was his favorite? Was that the secret wars? I was really hoping for a brown suit with the astonishing articulation
The fact that so many Marvel Legends collectors constantly COMPLAIN about articulation..QC issues.. paint app issues.. meantime there's NO other company other than Hasbro making the most OBSCURE Marvel Comics characters in action figure form at the $25 price point!
The most obscure characters with outdated articulation, QC issues, paint app issues . . . yes that’s the line that we’re complaining about. $25 isn’t cheap. Jada toys proved that you should get a lot for $25. Why do some of you have such a problem with people justifiably criticizing them. Why do you feel so compelled to defend a billion dollar company that tried to rip off their loyal customers?
We’re happy to be on the list with those big names. Dan Who is my fav for sure. I watch all his main uploads and depending on time as many lives as I can.
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I didnt watch the video so i had no idea what u guys were talking about 😄
Omg, Dan made a guess, which he clearly stated was a guess, & he was wrong. How is that lying? I thought u gents were better than elementary school click bait
You know what's funny since we didn't got no Hasbro from mephisto at least I have a custom of mephisto I hope we have some customs but I want to action figure of that character but we'll just have to wait and see in the future
I hope it's a Spider-Man wave then we can get a big ass huge Man spider build a figure plus they can bring some new spider man villains plus you can't go wrong with a Spider-Man wave plus can finally get an update on that Rat guy vermon
Spider-Man does get the love so I could see them investing time into a good baf for him. Although I feel like they don’t do many Spider-Man baf waves though. They normally end up on retro card.
Did you like the presentation of Power Princess? Because that's what all D level sups. Should get. Imo if the buck is older than 5 yrs. Get rid of it. So what if we don't get 100 MLs a year. At least the quality will be a lot better. Quality over quantity. C'mon 🙄🙄🙄
I would like to see hasbro marvel legends do the same articulations on every figure they do on the retro Spidey.is that to much to ask ??? But im not going to complain its still a kids toy 🧸 🪀 4 to up .but i would like for that to happen . hopefully im not to obsessed with pinless figures as long as its made fine.
I mean yes. If we want the same depth in the line as we have, there needs to be more options of articulation. That’s where the old stuff comes in. If they only did new bodies, we’d probably have half the figures we get.
It's all about fun and imagination of the collector . And some collect for nostalgic reasons and since the stress of covid four years ago adults collecting has risen up . It's also therapeutic.@@thestrongcollectors
It's all about fun and imagination and therapy . The obsession of adults collecting today are at its highest due to the stress of COVID four years ago and nitpicking on their reviews is a cringe 😬 to as well some have forgotten that buying these toys is for fun not to hoard no toy is perfect but I truly miss the very early toybiz years of marvel legends before the year's it showed it was falling apart . Til it was no more it was bad because when hasbro took over they made horrible marvel legends figures very poor articulations it was heart breaking and it got more expensive hasbro didn't improve til eighteen years later .@@thestrongcollectors
Did you notice that Dan Who said that Marvel Legends was primarily an adult collectors property? And Dwight seemed to agree with that opinion.
That's just OBVIOUS brother
@@robertfalcone3025 the marketing team always make a point about kids being a "key" demographic and they are supposed to be a factor in what type of product is allowed on store shelves. Just pointing out that a contrary statement was made. Hasbro can offer whatever they want and they could easily sell the Marvel Legends in the entertainment section like NECA instead of the toy aisle.
Ooo sneaky
Not a fan of these types of titles for bait. The community can be pretty hostile as it is. Not cool to stir the pot by “calling out” someone negatively when they’re just speculating on potential reveals
Quick…get to your safe space!!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
We’re constantly bringing up Dan and it’s also pretty often him and rich mention us. I’m sure he knew we’d have a 2 guys talking about 2 guys episode. We do it every time he talks to the team. He’ll be on the show eventually too.
I've been on at least one strong collectors live steams with less than 20 people present and one of them was Dan Who. I'm sure he (dan) gets the joke.
We love Dan and I like to think he loves us back.
Comedy
Im more mad about the Xmanny87 drama where he tried to resell sentinels for 75 bucks each. When the community called him out he went into panic mode, deleted comments, turned off comments on his sentinel video, then made a response video calling everyone who called him out names and deflecting any blame. I unsubscribed and stopped watching him after he showed his true colors.
Interesting ,he had a meltdown a few years ago when i didnt agree with his top ten list ( lame ) and he shut down his channel for several months after threatening to fight me 😄 . He made a video about me too
I don’t really watch any of his stuff. Mainly just don’t have the time and didn’t want to add another creator to want to follow. I did watch the video you’re talking about though and his drama with the predictions about the sentinels. Reselling I don’t care at all about. Jordan and I both have done a lot of that. I can understand comments bothering you but you have to be solid enough in yourself to not let it get to you so much you’re taking it out on the community.
Finally people see him for what he is. I said he was horrible 3 years ago.
I did not know that. I've been watching manny87 for a few years. I mean I hate to say it but it is the Internet I spose. As an older collector I just recently started collecting X-Men and the avengers (hulk,Thor,iron man antman and wasp). Keeping it what I consider silver/bronze age type of deco but yeah if there's a later version of a character that is just nice to me overall I may get it. A new psylocke is keeping us all in suspense being that they have that moonstone/warbird body they just need to make it. It might be a good figure. C'mon Hasbro don't poop the bed.💯 Please.
And a sidenote, a Mangog baf would be very nice if they do it right or maybe a haslab?
I would rather Hasbro produce fewer figures for the year and use all of the new pinless bodies as opposed to more figures using the Sunfire body mold or Pizza Spider-Man. It amazes me that for movie figures there are new sculpts in every wave but comic based figures have only had the Vulcan body and Renew Your Vows as the only new options. There is a big discrepancy in the sculpting budget for movie based figures when compared to the comic based figures. More than 70% of comic based figures are reused bodies with new head sculpts. The 85th anniversary program had nearly all of the new tooling for all of the products released this year.
We could and might do a whole episode on this topic. If they did go with the less figures and all newer bodies we wouldn’t have the depth to the line. We’d probably never see figures like orb, crystar, or frog man. The movie figures do get a bigger budget but the source also gets a bigger budget. Movies will always have more money than the paper comics. Additionally, most comic characters are in some kind of spandex suit so it really doesn’t make much sense to have new sculpting for some parts. Mcu costumes are always more detailed designs than the comic versions.
@thestrongcollectors Crystar, Frogman and Orb are all characters that benefit from having unique design elements and coincidentally Crystar and Frogman both received unique sculpting on both their figures. Compared to the greater Marvel Universe, these are D-list characters but they got new sculpted parts before a character as well known as Quicksilver. 🤔 Magneto's son is on the Sunfire body mold. Hasbro had a perfect opportunity to introduce a new leaner runner body mold that could have been similar in shape to the Amazing Fantasy Spider-Man body but taller.
Most of the characters aren't wearing straight spandex. Hasbro is simply taking the easy route to produce the figures. Crystar gets a unique sculpt before 616 Iceman? Why wasn't Kazar on the Renew Your Vows body since he's athletic? Why isn't Hawkeye on the Vulcan body? Comic Clint Barton is taller than Steve Rogers. Why wasn't Namor pinless?
I love Legends but Hasbro still cuts corners. I have collected this line since wave 1 of ToyBiz. Troop builders are put on the Bucky Cap and Sunfire bodies at a reduced price! I'm tired of paying full price for figures that are ten years old! Based on that logic Quicksilver is a troop builder! Wong got a new sculpt in the comic category and live action. Let that sink in. No figure other than Dracula got new tooling in the Strange Tales wave but Wong got a new sculpt in a two pack with Dr. Strange. Wong gets butterfly shoulders before Captain America and Namor?
I'm going on too long.....I have been at this collecting thing for a long time. I just want a my money's worth is all. That and I want everyone to be honest and have fun. Toys haven't changed that much in the last 5 years
@@demetricsmith471 not sure i want them to do away with caps scales to give him butterflies.
@davidcorrell6271 ToyBiz did an Ultimate Captain America 🇺🇸 way back in in 2004 with scales and butterflies a comic book and a display stand
@@demetricsmith471 yea but looked like hell
Great show guys - thanks a lot for your efforts.
Thank you!
@@thestrongcollectors In an MCM interview with Jacob Toys Dwight did mention Frank N Castle as a possible future project!
What?! I haven’t seen that video. I need to find it
@@thestrongcollectors th-cam.com/video/hUZuMQEyq54/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wqrBocj47NrnhNur
Didn’t Ryan say we had one more wolverine coming that was his favorite? Was that the secret wars? I was really hoping for a brown suit with the astonishing articulation
I’m pretty sure it was secret wars but they did say there would be more wolverine next year.
The fact that so many Marvel Legends collectors constantly COMPLAIN about articulation..QC issues.. paint app issues.. meantime there's NO other company other than Hasbro making the most OBSCURE Marvel Comics characters in action figure form at the $25 price point!
True. I get wanting everything to be perfect but $25 is a budget action figure. We can always return something that’s truly wrong.
The most obscure characters with outdated articulation, QC issues, paint app issues . . . yes that’s the line that we’re complaining about. $25 isn’t cheap. Jada toys proved that you should get a lot for $25. Why do some of you have such a problem with people justifiably criticizing them. Why do you feel so compelled to defend a billion dollar company that tried to rip off their loyal customers?
if you stop buying them eventually something new will emerge...
Making obscure characters doesnt excuse making them poorly. And $25 is more than enough to demand some things be done properly.
@crispsuk9779 You can always NOT buy them
You're pretty up there in my favorites. Probably Shartimus, David, you guys, Toy Shiz, Rectangular, or vice versa, Lyle and a couple of others.
We’re happy to be on the list with those big names. Dan Who is my fav for sure. I watch all his main uploads and depending on time as many lives as I can.
I didnt watch the video so i had no idea what u guys were talking about 😄
lol now you gotta go watch it and then come back and watch this again!
@thestrongcollectors 😁 man i dont watch dan who
He’s my favorite. You gotta at least check out the interviews he does. He’s the best interviewers of the team imo.
Omg, Dan made a guess, which he clearly stated was a guess, & he was wrong. How is that lying? I thought u gents were better than elementary school click bait
I’m sorry if the thumbnail hurt you. Did we sound like we were seriously calling him out?
Definitely my favorite!
Mine too
Dan who the type of guy who watched wandavision and Agatha thinking every little detail in the shows were clues to Mephisto’s debut lol
to be fair there were a lot of signs saying it would be Mephisto.
You know what's funny since we didn't got no Hasbro from mephisto at least I have a custom of mephisto I hope we have some customs but I want to action figure of that character but we'll just have to wait and see in the future
I’m guessing legends will eventually make him but it might be a little while.
@thestrongcollectors yeah unfortunately you're right
Im just waiting for someone to pose the Haslab Giant Man biting the HEAD off of the BLOB!!
🤣
Haha I’m sure it’s coming
Dan Who MUST be stopped! 🇺🇸
We’re here to stand up to his lies! lol
The strongest collectors💪❤.
There’s no one stronger!
I hope it's a Spider-Man wave then we can get a big ass huge Man spider build a figure plus they can bring some new spider man villains plus you can't go wrong with a Spider-Man wave plus can finally get an update on that Rat guy vermon
Spider-Man does get the love so I could see them investing time into a good baf for him. Although I feel like they don’t do many Spider-Man baf waves though. They normally end up on retro card.
@thestrongcollectors but it doesn't hurt too wish 😊
thinking about subbing to this channel 🤔 iam only subbed to Dan and Xmanny and sometimes need a break from these guys.
It’s time to stop thinking and take action my friend. Hit that subscribe button!
Did you like the presentation of Power Princess? Because that's what all D level sups. Should get. Imo if the buck is older than 5 yrs. Get rid of it. So what if we don't get 100 MLs a year. At least the quality will be a lot better. Quality over quantity. C'mon 🙄🙄🙄
Maybe but I think that limits the character roster and then you'll have collectors crying that all we get is ironman and wolverine.
Hahaha 😂😂😂😂
Gangsta!!
We aren’t scared of the big fish.
i will stop him.
Just do it nicely.
@@thestrongcollectors in dakota's name amen
give the rights to mcfarlane, I'd like to see what he could do with the line. maybe have them as 7 inches
While I agree that would be interesting (and we’ve done a whole video on it you should check out) I prefer the hasbro figures over McFarlane.
I would like to see hasbro marvel legends do the same articulations on every figure they do on the retro Spidey.is that to much to ask ??? But im not going to complain its still a kids toy 🧸 🪀 4 to up .but i would like for that to happen . hopefully im not to obsessed with pinless figures as long as its made fine.
I mean yes. If we want the same depth in the line as we have, there needs to be more options of articulation. That’s where the old stuff comes in. If they only did new bodies, we’d probably have half the figures we get.
It's all about fun and imagination of the collector . And some collect for nostalgic reasons and since the stress of covid four years ago adults collecting has risen up . It's also therapeutic.@@thestrongcollectors
It's all about fun and imagination and therapy . The obsession of adults collecting today are at its highest due to the stress of COVID four years ago and nitpicking on their reviews is a cringe 😬 to as well some have forgotten that buying these toys is for fun not to hoard no toy is perfect but I truly miss the very early toybiz years of marvel legends before the year's it showed it was falling apart . Til it was no more it was bad because when hasbro took over they made horrible marvel legends figures very poor articulations it was heart breaking and it got more expensive hasbro didn't improve til eighteen years later .@@thestrongcollectors