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DROPPING 800+ LB BAR on SQUAT RACK Safety Straps TEST!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.พ. 2019
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We've been asked just how much weight can a squat rack's safety straps hold. Well, we tested it by dropping 814 LB from above shoulder height. I think we can now all squat confidently.
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BEFORE YOU WATCH! Do you think the straps will survive? Yes or No?!
Yes
I was literally looking at buying some last night.
No
If you still have those straps, can you repeat the drops until they actually break?
no
Nice to know when im repping 800lbs for squats that im safe
Lupix honestly bruh no cap dis gotta be the funniest comment
Squatting bro cmon I curl that bud get your weight up!
Lupix I curl that lol
I curl that on 1 leg
We all start somewhere
I'm surprised with some of the negative reviews. I was so impressed with the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMwYg0MOXR4M-oGeyBsNSYe1aPOUoRH6D cage that I got the lat pulldown attachment that goes with it. It is equally outstanding. I don't have one complaint other than putting it together is a job. The instructions and packaging of the parts are very well designed and organized. Also, I stripped and damaged the pull down cable the first day, admitting it was my stupid fault, and they quickly replaced it at no charge. I'm 6'5, 280lbs and fit in the cage just fine. Glenn B
The most impressive thing in this video is how you got the weight to come off the band pegs perfectly evenly and then hit the straps at the exact same time on both sides.
Yeah, actually practiced that a few times. I didn't want to have to do it twice, so I was going to make sure I did it right the first time.
I gotta say, if you dump your squats from shoulder height, you deserve to have your equipment break.
Also....Titan straps in a rogue rack?!
That's like crossing streams
Worse than that, I have Rogue, Titan, American Barbell, and Rep Fitness plates all on the same bar...
@@GarageGymReviews
That's okay. They all come from the same Chinese manufacturing company anyway.
Unless you pass out front squattin 😅
Alan Thrall Re: dumping your squats...... GOD BLESS YOU SIR !!!
3:33 thank me later
Thank
Thank
No I’ll thank you now
Thank
Literally all I needed, thank you for not making me look at this mans face for a second longer than I have
thanking you later
I guess you’d call this a drop set ….
Ok I’m leaving
800lb with falling velocity of ~15 mph would be very close to 3.5 tons of force at peak on the straps. Also consider that this is shearing force on a very small strip, I’d feel very safe under these straps.
Warp its not shearing force tho.
How did you calculate the 3.5 tons? See also physics.stackexchange.com/questions/527069/calculate-force-exerced-to-stop-a-falling-barbell-by-straps
@Calfman If you read my question on stackexchange carefully, you will notice that I didn't claim that the straps stretch by 23,4 cm, but that the center of gravity goes 23,4 cm lower than if the bar would just rest on the straps. This is mainly from the deformation of the bar itself and only secondary because the straps stretches a little bit. Nevertheless the whole system can be considered in first approximation as a spring like system obeying hooks law.
@Calfman Why is 1m "height force" approx 2,5 times the weight? And why should it in this case be 3,5 times the weight? I don't see how you get those numbers. Would be great if you could explain this more in detail.
@@TheSarah921 In your post, it seems like you're trying to get the most accurate results, so I had a few thoughts. In your video analysis, you said you weren't able to figure out the slow motion FPS. Can't you look at the time it takes from start to finish for the barbell to hit the strap in both the regular speed and slow-mo speed? Slow-mo FPSes typically follow the formula 30*2^n where n is an integer. So you have 60 FPS, 120 FPS, 240 FPS, 480 FPS, and 960 FPS. If you get an FPS of approximately 957 by comparing the two, you can assume the camera is 960 FPS. Looking at the video, the motion in the slow-mo footage lasted for 28 frames while the video in the regular footage lasted for 14 frames, suggesting that the slow-mo footage was exactly 60 FPS, which isn't that slow-mo to be honest.
Additionally, I can see you tried using Hooke's law to do the calculations in your first approach. I don't know if Hooke's law is very applicable since the bar was clearly bent beyond its elastic limit and has a permanent deformity as seen in the later parts of the video. Though the bar isn't super bent, it seems like the deformity is negligible, but it may not necessarily be. Anyway, this is as accurate as you're going to get without actually buying all of his equipment and measuring the peak force in person, LOL.
*Ronnie Coleman enters chat*
Light weight baby!
Yeah buddy
*YEAAH BUDDYY*
*WHOOOOO*
*YUP*
*AINT NOTHING BUT A PEANUT*
Coop, I can’t thank you enough for this review. My new Titan X-3 Flatfoot Safety Straps are coming in today, and can’t wait to get them installed. This is both the review we all needed and deserved.
What the inside depth of your Titan X-3 Flatfoot? And which Safety Straps size did you get for it?
Tam Ma my X-3 Flatfoot has a 30” depth and my safety straps are 33” in length if I remember correctly. If you just search for the X-3 Safety Straps they should have posted the 3 different lengths available.
@@tonyallen3138 Thanks for information. Are these X-3 Safety Straps currently on the Titan Fitness site the new and improved V2 ones?
Ronnie would catch that shit.
YEAAAAAH BUDDY!
Ronnie colman hes huge
Nothing but a peanut!
Lightweight baaaabbyy
He would catch it mid air, curl it then strict press it while screaming lightweight baby
He cant even walk
Why this dude look like a budget Elon musk
Really True Even i was wondering that
Now that's funny...and I'll take it.
Low budget*
Dude looks like Ken from the bee movie. Ya know, the angry boyfriend guy
Looks like a budget Elon musk and sounds like a budget Owen Wilson.
Well NOW you have to do a collar test. Ivanko, Elieko, cheap springy ones, generic plastic quick locks vs real quick locks, rogue, etc etc
Good idea!
Can verify that spring ones suck! Was spotting someone on the side and the other side spotter jumped the gun...collars didn't hold up at all. If you are doing anything heavy, please, invest in collars. Save us side spotters 🤣
@@jmcguire6783
Lol if it takes two people to spot someone, logically that's some crazy heavy weight..
Who's idea was it to use spring ones lol
Don't forget Uesaka
Gotta also test this with various bars, racks, & safeties.
Love this channel... Building a home gym has been the most rewarding venture I have ever embarked on... It is a very personal experience and definatley not static as it will evolve as my training will continue to. Your content has helped guide me through the process. It's an unquantifiable investment in health and wellbeing.
Love hearing things like this!
This much bend in a bar is common in a commercial gym here. 😂
This statement is true. ⬆️ I watch an asshat do shrugs in the only squat rack and just drop a heavily weighted bar on the pegs. And because of him we need to search for a non bent bar to do any other movement.
@@bmstylee every gym has those kinds of stupids, moreover commercial gyms don't have super nice equipment which can withstand that much abuse.
@@bmstylee I would kick him out if it were my gym
I'm more surprised by the band pegs not bending
Considering their purpose, those are way over engineered.
@@momatotsosrorudodi I'm absolutely okay with that
With Rogue discontinuing their safety straps for their Infinity line up, glad to see that Titan safety straps fit on an Rogue R-3 Rack!!
I was benching 315 (3, 45lbs plates on each side) and in between sets someone stole a 45lbs plate from one side without me noticing. I lifted the bar and immediately lost balance one direction, then seesawed back and forth as the plates fell off until the bar was empty. That was one of the scariest moments of my gym life. Fortunately I, nor anyone else, was injured but I did want to beat the crap out of the freshman that stole my plate. Just got the record, I benched 450, squat 675, deadlift 805 and I weighed 275
I'm glad I found your channel cause it's real reviews that I like, not just trusting marketing from the companies. These true tests can you really show others if the product is legit or not. Great Jurassic Park line "hold on to your butts" lol.
Outstanding test. Real world! BTW, your 3 yard sprint is pretty darn good! :)
Thank you, been working on it.
That’s a relief for my barbell curls I won’t get hurt
Michael Bay: "This slowmo isn't gratuitous enough!"
I wish we could have saw the weight fall from a couple more angles..
Just want to point out that the outermost weights strike the ground on the initial impact. This diverts a ton of force energy to the ground and off of the straps. The steel bar provided the dynamic stretching to allow this. With all of the force removed by the ground strike there is considerably less force on the straps. If this were attempted with the straps a little higher the results could have been profoundly different. #physics
Love the video!! Keep them coming!!!
Great test, I would have liked a close up shot of the pegs and holes to see if there was any permanent deformation.
But what IS the weight of a dynamic rating/load when it's dropped? 2,000lb? 3,500lb?
Candi Soda you wouldn’t rate a dynamic load strictly in pounds. Unless you specified height as well. It’s a much more complex problem than static rating, which is why companies provide the static number.
@@mmullane31
Twas just out of curiosity.
If you know the formula that an average person like me can just plug in a=height and b=lb lol... That'd be nice :)
@@MeepMeep88 It's really hard to know the actual load in the straps. The flexibility of the bar, the spacing between the two vertical columns, the distribution of the plates on the barbell, and where it hits on the strap all have the potential to significantly influence the load seen in the straps. Assuming that's nylon webbing for the straps then you would also want to consider how much moisture is in the straps. Nylon is hygroscopic and its stiffness and strength change significantly with temperature and humidity. The way to measure the load would either be with a load cell inline with the straps and recording data at high speeds to find the peak or doing some simulation modeling with a computer.
There are some formulas, check out newtons laws and some formulas for free fall, that should do the trick
This is my estimate. Height from bar to straps: 1.3m. The bend in the bar on impact: 0.1m. So Average force = (380kg*9.81m/s2*1.3)/0.1= 48.5kN 48.5kN is equal to a force of a resting (48500/9.81=) 4943kg or almost 11,000lbs. Now be aware that this is a very rough estimate. The bent in the bar is very hard to see which has a great influence on the force. Also this is the average force on the straps, peak can be higher. To be honest it easily also could be 5000lbs
"Hold on to your buts" He must have just watched Jurassic park 😂 when the guys trys to turn the power back on.
Gosh dang it Coop!!! Best channel ever! Love it
3:40 is What you’re looking for
Hold on to your butts 🤣 waaaaaay better than I expected! Thanks Coop.
Titan quality is getting better! Those straps would have saved your life! Another great video Coop
Which bar did you use? I'm kind of impressed lol.
What do you mean they were to handle 1000+ lbs
@@madbear3512 That impact was way more than 1600lbs+ thats why I'am impressed aswell.
@@xXLucWuvXx 800lbs dropped from 5ft is 213369.912N . or 47967.46lbs. When divided by 2 is about 23983.73lbs of force exerted on each of those straps.
@@VSUPARHAM that was a good bar lol
@@VSUPARHAM what? How did you even begin to work that out?
Brags about clips:
Drops 800lbs: clips have left the chat
Nylon webbing is rated for insanely high loads. Think of a tow strap, seatbelts, rock climbing equipment, etc.
Most impressive being rigging slings used on cranes for heavy lifts. Certainly a very strong synthetic fiber
I have an x2 and wanted the safety straps. It was just after they recalled them....so I sent a picture of the sorinex ones to a fabricator and ordered my own straps...couple months later, they released the new version....still glad I got mine! The “sorinex” style is great
That was way cooler than it had any business being. Also completely agree with Alan on this.
Thanks for doing this test. I wish more equipment manufactures would put out their own videos showing how well their products perform but alas. I have a Bells of Steel rack with straps. I've only had to bail on a squat once, it might have traveled a foot in distance with maybe 400lbs? They were obviously fine but it got me thinking about their performance. Nice to see Titan's quality improving.
Looking more jacked than usual Coop, you still with SSOC?
Been on a hypertrophy-focused program for the past month. Plan to run it for a bit to increase the mass in my a**...
@@GarageGymReviews Nice. Good shit.
Garage Gym Reviews a video on said program would be appreciated
Garage Gym Reviews which program?
Titan makes good stuff! And for the money, especially for a garage gym, No need to waste money if not getting more for it.
Actually they are good at copying companies that make good stuff. Built at slave labor costs allows them to sell so cheaply. You can see on their belt squat how they do when they don't copy Rogue or Elite FTS or Sorinex. It was a poorly designed POS.
you really know how to have fun!!!
One thing about straps.
Any straps meant to handle weight especially shock loading.
Also faded straps for outdoor setups exposed to weather.
If the stitching/thread that holds it all together is getting frayed or cut then the system is compromised and could completely fail when shock force is applied
This test also demonstrates that a 2"x3" rack with 5/8" hardware is stronger than any of us ever need.
2:45
brags about clips
3:45
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The 6th Hokage lol
The force equates to approximately 3 tons upon impact what did you think will happen
That seems to be enjoyable!! Hope you can test more things like in this video!
Great video!
Big Balls You Have Sir!!!!
4:20 That noise was awesome
Will Barbell damaged from dropping on canvas cable 3:46 ? Normally when they dump barbell on the floor, bumper plate will make contact and absorb the shock. If barbell shaft dropped directly on canvas. Will it break? EDIT: nvm lol I watch all the video. It bent. So it is better to drop it with bumper plate.
Great channel man
The amount of weight required to bend is inversely proportional to the distance away from the fulcrum. The weight was close to the strap, so more weight is required. The bar rating is calculated based on hand position
This is why I watch you.
Awesome Test
Having the rack mounted to the floor and to the rack next to it helps a lot too.
Safety straps were like, "Not in my fookin gym..."
Do titan fitness x3 safety straps work ln rogue lite racks? Thanks
The straps survived but how is your foundations? 😂 any cracks?
Nice review brother
Still not buying Titan straps but good to know that those who do, have nothing to worry about.
Not a good commercial for Proloc
ehh I think any collar that screws to lock would have flew off, thats why you don't use those kind for weightlifting.
Coop flexing on us, showing off how many cameras he has with all these different angles.
You can see him running away from the rack like a princess
Guys does anyone know if any titan straps can fit on a 2x2 rack? With 1 inch holes? Need help ASAP!
Im 5,6 i went gym to do weights 1st time yesterday I couldn’t lift the 20kg bar off the ground I did 15kg curls instead, today my arms are killing
if the straps wear out or break, you could use like a tow/crane strap for replacement. probably alot cheaper and better quality
What's the point of using straps instead of bars? Do bars damage the barbell more, or is it a cost thing?
yeah bars do more damage. If you did this with bars instead of straps the barbell would be 100% unusable afterwards. Plus the bars bend over time and can harm the entire rack in some cases
I bought those for my T2 rack on sale for 65$ a pair. I looked for months for straps that would fit 2x2 rack with 1inch holes and the closest match I found was on the EliteFTS site over100$.
I have never had to drop a barbell on them so far...but I did test them doing “rack pulls” off them with 495lbs for reps they held up fine zero issues.
Overall good value for the money.
A single 2 inch strap has a WWL (working load limit) of 3,333lbs. That grade 7 bolt that connects to the strap has a WWL of 6,800 lbs at 3/8 and 5,700lbs at 5/16.
The next weight drop should be something you could break the strap with to show you the resiliency of the equipment!
After watching this video, is it safe to say that these Titan strap brackets would fit a Rogue Infinity R-3 rack? I went with the 30" depth option for my R-3 rack and for some reason Rogue only offers 24" straps with the Infinity line. Figured I'd go with the 36" Titan strap option for half Rogue's price as long as the brackets fit and if the straps are too long I can always get them custom made locally. Just need to know if Titan T-3 brackets would fit a Rogue R-3 rack.
There are handheld scanners that can tell you exactly what metal they are reading, they are quite expensive but I can grantee Rogue must use them for QA purposes when they receive a batch of steel, Titan maybe not.
Can you share more information on this? Possibly a link?
Y'all should test standalone racks that have safety pins. I'd love to know how much one of those could save my ass.
To be fair. I have rope in my shedd that are made for the crane and they are rated at like 2,5 metric tones. There are ropes that can hold 5 tones. So idk what people are thinking around here but a lot of things you hear about being used in industry and shit are really strong.
The weights hit the floor! Unfortunately you didn't fully test the straps or bar because of this; some of the load (the falling bar) was absorbed by the ground and not the straps.
they dont hit the floor. You can see it in the replays is stops a few inches shy. However it is possible they did hit the rack at full whip on the inside plates. Either way these straps withstood way more than most people will ever do to them.
That was impressive! I am shocked that it held the impact.
Damn these bands are insanely strong
Great test ! The Bar held up ! What was the entire test configuration Rack, Bar, please ? Thanks
Coop where did you get that badass jacket from at 2:19?
Potential and kinetic energy at its finest.
That's super impressive!
They did a great job, but just like a climbers safety rope you need to replace them after a stress load like that because now they are significantly weaker.
Appreciate the subtle rim shot there at 06:17 LOL
That wasn't subtle.
What happened to holding the weights on really well
Need to test those pin safeties.
Did the Titan straps fit without modifications inside the R-3 (or other 3"x2" and 5/8") ?
So are straps or bars the better safety mechanism? Im looking to by rack soon
That you risk harm for this test respects
Nice boots coop 😎
Thanks brother!
They're $100? They're nice and all, but you could get a vehicle towing strap for a lot less
Great test, great video. Can you do this same test with pin-and-pipe?
Nylon webbing just like that is used in shipping and construction for lifting thousands of pounds so I don't see why people were worried. And half assing the stitching wouldn't save much time at all so there's no point in it.
Braces are affordable.
Make a video on what you think of strength shop please!!
Need to do something about them locks now
When dropped from even a small height that puts significantly more than 800lbs of tension onto those straps. I believe at approx 3 ft of drop that created 800lbs x 3ft = 2,400ftlbs of work those straps needed to hold in order to arrest the fall of that weight.
Where did you acquire your straps to connect snaphooks to chains on your deadlifts? Vendor?
Are these the same straps from the fail video you posted on Instagram?
Definitely impressed!
Id like to see what happens to a pin and pipe setup from that height for comparison. Do it!
it sucks, i can squat 850 pds for 10 reps. can this power rack withstand my power?
I’m not impressed. I work in a warehouse with heavy machinery and 40 ft polyethylene gas pipes. Both weighing several tons. We use nylon slings slightly thinner than what you’re using there to move said tons on forklifts. We’ve had a few incidents where the equipment or materials have gotten away from us and the nylon slings NEVER fail. Some of the slings we use are rated at 12,500 lbs.