Excelente vídeo! Eu tenho um Px 5S, o FA deu uma resposta melhor, mais o PX não fica pra trás porque se fizer alguns ajustes de equalização e ambiencia no timbre fica muito mais compativel
i sold my FA-08 and kept my Px-5s, the FA-08 is heavy when u play on gigs. Its lighter than the fantoms but still heavy. So I decided to sell it. Soundwise, people always say this is better than this one, once u r playing on stage, nobody cares what keyboard you are playing, just make sure you know your parts. Practice will makes yousound good. if u need a sampling stage piano with vocoder and sequencer then get the fa-08,. But if u dont need those features, save money and save you back the px-5s is the ideal board for gigging pianist/keyboardist... i love roland, i still have my fantom g and xv-5080. So its not bias, im just telling the truth. it depends on your need ✌🏿️
Using the "Modern Grand" preset on the PX-5S would certainly have been a more even comparison. The Roland by default is much brighter. Roland pianos always sound like "Rolands" not an acoustic to me. I prefer the more natural tone of the Casio.
Eu já assistir shows do Roupa Nova, 14 Bis, RPM, Peninha e Zé Ramalho, todos utilizando um px5s e os timbres desse stage piano são animal, inclusive os sons de piano. Não deixa nada a desejar para outros com valor entre dez e vinte mil.
Late to the game on this topic. But I've had to mic live pianos using at least two mics. Basically, it just sounds like two different real pianos mic'd differently. They both sound authentic. In many cases, the first line of difference in sound on the digitals is how they are sampled in mic placement and with the type of mics. And then comes the digital part of storage, triggering, effects, etc. Both are great sounding. You can mimic that Roland easily on the Px-5s with real time eq and some other controls on the Casio. It's a great board, and lightweight. Opps, logged in on my wife's account.
Roland have moved away from just purely sampled piano sounds and use a far more sophisticated modelling process these days, this is particular obvious when the decay of the strings is heard on thick chords, another remarkable thing with their piano sound is the simulation of actual acoustic piano resonance, this cannot be mimicked.
I closed my eyes and was trying to guess which was FA and which was Casio and I've got it abut 50% times wrong depending which section of the keyboard you were playing. The mid to high on Roland is very bright and looses the real piano ambiance, sounds like keyboard, while the casio has more real feel. Bass part of keyboard sounds little muddied on casio and a bit fuller on roland. With two hands spread the FA sounds still bit more like keyboard while casio has more feel of actual acoustic piano, but it is splitting hairs and it depends more on the player than the keyboard.. (I have FA by myself and I am not entirely satisfied by the supernatural piano sound, I feel its rather artificial, the free expansion piano bank give more variety and in some way the pianos there sound more like real piano even the samples are much older and probably also smaller. I guess the FA supernatural will stand better in the mix, due to the better cutting highs. I had tyros 4 and somehow the piano sounded more sweet and "expensive" than on FA. But it is a software issue, I think they could do a better job on roland if they want, but this is the sound they like.
That's exactly what I thought of when i heard this. The Casio is quieter for most of the video, besides the last ~50 secs, where the Roland is quieter and thus sounds worse.
Não te comparação que tem que ver isso eo tecladistas que quer comprar, pra suprir suas necessidades são dois teclados muito bom, já vir O roupa nova tocar com Px 5 família Lima tbm é outros com o outro apesar de o Px 5 ser mais barato pelos recursos que tem bate em muitos teclados caros por aí.
Conheço o timbre do Px -5s, pois tenho um , e esse vídeo me deixou desconfiado que houve edição. É só comparar com outros vídeos que mostram exemplos de timbres do Privia, que fica claro que alguma coisa na edição do som não favoreceu o teclado.
Hi, I think both pianos sound great. I have the Casio PX5-S and I love it. If I had the Roland I reckon I would be really happy with that also. Two very good value for money piano's that sound excellent. As another poster said, the better you can play, the better these pianos will sound.
Eu goatei mais do px5s. Meio artificial esse som de gran piano ae. Quem ja tocou em um piano acustico vai achar mais parecidono do casio. Mas emfim som é gosto. Ei iria de roland fa nao pelos pianos mas pela variedade de sons e ser um workstation. Se for pra tocar só piano iroa de px5s com certeza
Px5s is more a stage piano. Px560 m is more a digital piano. The motor soumd is the same on both. If you play im a gig better px5s. If you play alone, better px560.
@@conradovasconcelos3602 I think you are right, even another year later. I just wish my PX5S had that 560 screen. I’ve had my PX5S for about 8 years and my only wishes are for the screen and a quieter keyboard. The bang-bang detracts from an otherwise great feel. Also- I’m not sure if the 560 has as much hex layer capability.
Casio sounds more natural, more pleasant to my ear. Roland, as usually, sounds more bright and digital, though brighter sounds are available on Casio as well.
The lows and highs on each sound great. But the mids are significantly different. The Roland sounds more like an acoustic piano. The Casio sounds like a toy. This has always kept me from using Casio on stage. I did own a PX5S for a while but I couldn’t get used to the piano sounds or the frustratingly small screen. I sold it and bought a CP4 Stage. Twice the price but superb sounds right out of the box.
The Roland just doesn’t sound like a real piano. If that is the judgement criterion then it loses this comparison. I cannot hear how the key mechanisms feel though.
Casio def. Roland sounds more plastic to me. Btw, I have a Roland FA-07 and a Casio PX-560 + Casio PX-160. I prefer Casio any time. Sounds natural. Love their piano sound, and the action. Don't forget the timbre. The timbre is what the Roland is realy missing.
How are the Casio interfaces vs. FA-07's? Just as easy to do splits, layers, edit oscillators and filters? Then the Casios lack the FA's sample pads. FA is a monster in a lot of ways, only the Korg Kronos more closely compares, as far as I know. Roland could have put better pianos in the FA, but that would have required an even stronger processor and more memory, which would have driven up the price and it is meant to outdo the Yamaha MOXF6 and Korg Krome in features and capacity to make full tracks like a computer DAW. Well, it isn't as far away from that as the Yamaha and Korg competitors, that's for sure. It certainly does thoroughly outdo them in every way, just not in the main piano sounds, or in Cubase AI integration like the Yamaha.
Essa comparação é uma força! Pois já vi esses teclados na loja e o som de fabrica dos dois teclados , a Roland fa neste vídeo editou seus Pianos para confundir ...
@@selmadasilvamendoncasantos2455 Quizás, pero la diferencia de precio no vale la pena por el sonido del piano. FA08 tiene una gran sensación de teclado. Por favor, perdón por mi español.
Roland way too bright isnt as resonant as that of an actual acoustic grand. Very digital and clear. Casio on the other hand has a very organic and acoustic tone. More resonant. Mechanical sounds are audible as well. It captured the feel of acoustic piano Actual modern acoustic pianos tend to be muddy when you hold the damper pedal down
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Excelente vídeo! Eu tenho um Px 5S, o FA deu uma resposta melhor, mais o PX não fica pra trás porque se fizer alguns ajustes de equalização e ambiencia no timbre fica muito mais compativel
Verdade o px5 é muito bom também
i sold my FA-08 and kept my Px-5s, the FA-08 is heavy when u play on gigs. Its lighter than the fantoms but still heavy. So I decided to sell it. Soundwise, people always say this is better than this one, once u r playing on stage, nobody cares what keyboard you are playing, just make sure you know your parts. Practice will makes yousound good. if u need a sampling stage piano with vocoder and sequencer then get the fa-08,. But if u dont need those features, save money and save you back the px-5s is the ideal board for gigging pianist/keyboardist... i love roland, i still have my fantom g and xv-5080. So its not bias, im just telling the truth. it depends on your need ✌🏿️
All of the gear you mention is overkill for the mediocre speakers in most venues. It is most important to know your stuff, just like you say.
Roland sounds way more dynamic!
Roland All Day!!! Sounds great!!!
Me parece que o som de piano do Roland FA ... Está editado ??? E o da Casio com o sons de fabrica , aí seria injusto né !!!
Using the "Modern Grand" preset on the PX-5S would certainly have been a more even comparison. The Roland by default is much brighter. Roland pianos always sound like "Rolands" not an acoustic to me. I prefer the more natural tone of the Casio.
Px5s é muito top, sons perfeitos
Nem cabe a comparação um stage de 19 mil e um de 4.000
Eu já assistir shows do Roupa Nova, 14 Bis, RPM, Peninha e Zé Ramalho, todos utilizando um px5s e os timbres desse stage piano são animal, inclusive os sons de piano. Não deixa nada a desejar para outros com valor entre dez e vinte mil.
Late to the game on this topic. But I've had to mic live pianos using at least two mics. Basically, it just sounds like two different real pianos mic'd differently. They both sound authentic. In many cases, the first line of difference in sound on the digitals is how they are sampled in mic placement and with the type of mics. And then comes the digital part of storage, triggering, effects, etc. Both are great sounding. You can mimic that Roland easily on the Px-5s with real time eq and some other controls on the Casio. It's a great board, and lightweight. Opps, logged in on my wife's account.
Roland have moved away from just purely sampled piano sounds and use a far more sophisticated modelling process these days, this is particular obvious when the decay of the strings is heard on thick chords, another remarkable thing with their piano sound is the simulation of actual acoustic piano resonance, this cannot be mimicked.
I closed my eyes and was trying to guess which was FA and which was Casio and I've got it abut 50% times wrong depending which section of the keyboard you were playing. The mid to high on Roland is very bright and looses the real piano ambiance, sounds like keyboard, while the casio has more real feel. Bass part of keyboard sounds little muddied on casio and a bit fuller on roland. With two hands spread the FA sounds still bit more like keyboard while casio has more feel of actual acoustic piano, but it is splitting hairs and it depends more on the player than the keyboard.. (I have FA by myself and I am not entirely satisfied by the supernatural piano sound, I feel its rather artificial, the free expansion piano bank give more variety and in some way the pianos there sound more like real piano even the samples are much older and probably also smaller. I guess the FA supernatural will stand better in the mix, due to the better cutting highs. I had tyros 4 and somehow the piano sounded more sweet and "expensive" than on FA. But it is a software issue, I think they could do a better job on roland if they want, but this is the sound they like.
great idea for comparing differents sounds......
A true comparison has to be made with the samples at the same RMS level.
Totally unfair.
What is RMS?
That's exactly what I thought of when i heard this. The Casio is quieter for most of the video, besides the last ~50 secs, where the Roland is quieter and thus sounds worse.
@@OrangeJackson Mean power, or root mean square (RMS) power handling, refers to how much continuous power the speaker can handle
Only thing casio needs to make better, is to fix their stereo sampling spectrum to get the best and most realistic sounding piano
Prices- USA: Roland U$1,800 x Casio U$1,000 - Brasil: Roland R$9.200 x Casio R$ 4.400 I´m a happy owner of a Casio PX560!
Hahahahahha✌️ 😂
Eu ficaria com o Korg Kross 2 ✌️😆
Eu tenho um kross 2 e um px5s. Nos pianos o casio da uma lavada. Bem ruim os pianoa do kross. O forte sao os strings os leads e os orgaos.
amigos, eu já tive os dois e posso dizer com certeza que o px5s é melhor. teclas melhores e som de piano mais encorpado
Verdade.
Roland better. More like the Steinway. You need to adjust EQ if u don't like the bright Roland piano.
Não te comparação que tem que ver isso eo tecladistas que quer comprar, pra suprir suas necessidades são dois teclados muito bom, já vir O roupa nova tocar com Px 5 família Lima tbm é outros com o outro apesar de o Px 5 ser mais barato pelos recursos que tem bate em muitos teclados caros por aí.
Conheço o timbre do Px -5s, pois tenho um , e esse vídeo me deixou desconfiado que houve edição. É só comparar com outros vídeos que mostram exemplos de timbres do Privia, que fica claro que alguma coisa na edição do som não favoreceu o teclado.
@@cursodetecladocompleto5902 verdade ! Eu também percebi isso ! A Roland concertesa foi editado...
Hi, I think both pianos sound great. I have the Casio PX5-S and I love it. If I had the Roland I reckon I would be really happy with that also. Two very good value for money piano's that sound excellent.
As another poster said, the better you can play, the better these pianos will sound.
Eu goatei mais do px5s. Meio artificial esse som de gran piano ae. Quem ja tocou em um piano acustico vai achar mais parecidono do casio. Mas emfim som é gosto. Ei iria de roland fa nao pelos pianos mas pela variedade de sons e ser um workstation. Se for pra tocar só piano iroa de px5s com certeza
FA08 mais ou menos R$8.000,00, PX5S mais ou menos R$5.000,00, não dá pra comparar..
Px5s muito top e com melhor preço. Utilizado por bandas conceituadas como Roupa Nova, 14 Bis e RPM.
Roland me gusta más, y principalmente los sonidos agudos.
Roland ❤️❤️
Can you use the casio privia px 5s as a midi-controller for fl studio, or any other DAW?
lukas luef yes indeed you can
Menurutku tone Piano Casio lebih natural daripada Roland ... I Think tone Piano Casio more Natural than Roland... I like it..
Pernah nyobain privia px 5s bang? Boleh dong share, rncana aku mau beli...eheh
what if I upload my own piano samples on the Casio?
hamburg d it is reali real 90 % to the hambur grand when u put headphones on
O Fa 08 foi melhor mas encorpado o som, mas o px5s chega junto e com outros instrumentos tocando nem dá pra perceber diferença.
5s or 560?
Px5s is more a stage piano. Px560 m is more a digital piano. The motor soumd is the same on both. If you play im a gig better px5s. If you play alone, better px560.
@@conradovasconcelos3602 I think you are right, even another year later. I just wish my PX5S had that 560 screen. I’ve had my PX5S for about 8 years and my only wishes are for the screen and a quieter keyboard. The bang-bang detracts from an otherwise great feel.
Also- I’m not sure if the 560 has as much hex layer capability.
@@papadopp3870 px560m has it too. Its easier than px5s. Vou should test it. Bye
Casio - more realistic sounds (in classic)
molto interessante....
anche se non avevo dubbi :-)
The Roland might not sound authentic but it sure does sound good. The Casio suffers from all the typical digital piano artefacts, the Roland doesn't.
Roland
Casio sounds more natural, more pleasant to my ear. Roland, as usually, sounds more bright and digital, though brighter sounds are available on Casio as well.
The lows and highs on each sound great. But the mids are significantly different. The Roland sounds more like an acoustic piano. The Casio sounds like a toy. This has always kept me from using Casio on stage. I did own a PX5S for a while but I couldn’t get used to the piano sounds or the frustratingly small screen. I sold it and bought a CP4 Stage. Twice the price but superb sounds right out of the box.
Whenever somebody uses the word "toy" you know they are full of shit. :-) Fact is, the PX-5S competes well with stage pianos costing double or triple.
G Yes, it competes very well with other, more expensive stage pianos. The mid range on the acoustic piano just isn’t to my liking.
@@jimi18032 I agree 100%
They both sound very similar.
Roland>15k
Casio 5k
M gusta más el Casio.. aunk no tienen mucha diferencia .. el Roland tiene u. sonido un poco más brillante
The Roland just doesn’t sound like a real piano. If that is the judgement criterion then it loses this comparison. I cannot hear how the key mechanisms feel though.
Casio def. Roland sounds more plastic to me. Btw, I have a Roland FA-07 and a Casio PX-560 + Casio PX-160. I prefer Casio any time. Sounds natural. Love their piano sound, and the action. Don't forget the timbre. The timbre is what the Roland is realy missing.
How are the Casio interfaces vs. FA-07's? Just as easy to do splits, layers, edit oscillators and filters? Then the Casios lack the FA's sample pads. FA is a monster in a lot of ways, only the Korg Kronos more closely compares, as far as I know.
Roland could have put better pianos in the FA, but that would have required an even stronger processor and more memory, which would have driven up the price and it is meant to outdo the Yamaha MOXF6 and Korg Krome in features and capacity to make full tracks like a computer DAW. Well, it isn't as far away from that as the Yamaha and Korg competitors, that's for sure. It certainly does thoroughly outdo them in every way, just not in the main piano sounds, or in Cubase AI integration like the Yamaha.
Triste o Roland soa melhor!! Tô achando quase injusto comparar os dois...😒 Coitadinho do Casio PX-5-S😬
Essa comparação é uma força! Pois já vi esses teclados na loja e o som de fabrica dos dois teclados , a Roland fa neste vídeo editou seus Pianos para confundir ...
Concertesa a Roland editou sim o fA para desbancar a Casio...
@@selmadasilvamendoncasantos2455 Quizás, pero la diferencia de precio no vale la pena por el sonido del piano. FA08 tiene una gran sensación de teclado.
Por favor, perdón por mi español.
Roland way too bright isnt as resonant as that of an actual acoustic grand. Very digital and clear.
Casio on the other hand has a very organic and acoustic tone. More resonant. Mechanical sounds are audible as well. It captured the feel of acoustic piano
Actual modern acoustic pianos tend to be muddy when you hold the damper pedal down
Buy for me one :)
PX-5S rocks. But I like the FA far better for many reasons that have nothing to do with piano sound.