Both instruments are amazing, mine is X8 Roland, some pianos are better on Roland some others in YAMAHA, but you can buy any of them will not be disappointed.
I watched this video a year or two ago and finally made the purchase last week for the FA-08. I love the keyboard action and responsiveness and how quick it is to get the sound you want. The MOXF8 sounds nice but looks like a total bitch to program/edit.
I have had a MOXF for about a year. Some of the sounds are fantastic, like acoustic piano, strings, guitar, brass, even organs. The synths aren't bad but they just dont stand out in the mix with my cover band. The synth sounds on my Korg Triton can drown out my lead guitar player.
I definitely choose the FA-08! Yamaha gives very good sounds, but Roland moves a whole lot more! Great video! Congratulations and thanks for uploading it!
I have a Roland Fa-07 and I must admit that Yamaha has much better guitar and sax sounds. I found that......I should buy a MODX. The two of them should be enough......for some time.
You're not alone. I like this Roland a lot more to be honest. Especially the bass and piano sounds. So I have no idea why some people say that the piano is better on the MOXF. The Roland sounds much more open. But it might also be that the audio quality in the FA-08 video is better. I don't think this is a fair video. So in reality the MOXF could be the best choice. I can't say for sure.
Phranque Peasant I love the Roland, I've owned a lot of Rolands but I dare say the piano on the Yamaha is more realistic. I can easily identify Roland piano sounds from a mile away.
I think the Roland sounds more "synth-y", since it's sound engine has also virtual analogue and modeling, MOXF8 is only sample based. I also prefer the Roland's sounds.
the xf has a lot of features that the FA does not have, ton of arpegiators, the pattern mode which works great, more sounds. On the other hand i love my FA, very easy to use, great audio interface, great sounds, i could not choose so ended with both..
Yamaha did what it usually does it sounds good on realistic instruments but the synth sounds are not good and Roland sounds great in the Bass department and drums but the piano sound engines sound kinda thin and that's the way they have always been. Not good or Bad that is just each keyboards strong and weak points.
The heart of any S+S workstation is the sampler. Yamaha allows multiple wav's per tone hence the switching between the bass articulations & noises appeared natural. Roland for many years relied on their unique tone structure to manipulate less samples. This I suppose contributed to tasty synthetic pads/leads etc. However, when Roland starting pushing the so-called SuperNatural engine - a lot of us believed that they have stepped up on the deeper multisampling. I'm not sure ry fat this demo really delves into those aspects though. My big gripe with these comparisons , are that they only deal with the single patches when we're really buying a complete workstation. So the question to be answered is - which overall functionality including sounds used in complete composition, is the better ?
I sold the MOX6 and bought the FA06. Very disappointed. These sounds are not INTEGRA. Quality timbres are few, mostly synth. Piano is worse than my VST Plugin 10 years ago. I will sell and buy MOXF, even though they have the worst hull I've ever seen in my 50 years ...
Certainly both of these keyboards compete well with each other. The FA has it on the pianos, and punchy basses, but the guitars are just that much more expressive on the XF. There isn't anything to complain about between these two. I'd buy both too, if I could. Each has special capabilities that would cover the gamut of expressiveness for me. The choice is difficult at best. I'm leaning on that FA for sheer versatility, but ooh, (as I've commented before), Yamaha's arp engines are second to none, and boy do I need a tool like that. When it comes down to menu navigation, WAV/MP3 export, audio input options, effects and ease of use the FA gets that extra star.
In my opinion, one of the reasons all Yamaha keyboards' piano voices sound the same is that Yamaha always samples their own Concert Grand Piano CFIIIS. This particular piano has very distinctive tone characteritcs which are a bit dark and wide. And this is the piano showed in this video. However, there is also a Yamaha S6 6' handmade grand piano sampled in MOXF and Motif XF. It has a tone color that is more familiar to people (more studio like)(S6 is not showed in this demo). ------------Comparatively, Roland has been sampling/modaling pianos from different manufactures including Yamaha, Steinway and more, giving customers a wider chioce.------------It seems that Yamaha has noticed that not all people like the sound of CFIIIS. Their acoustic piano department has developed the next-gen Concert Grand Piano called CFX (It has a much brighter and more classy tone). The CFX sample has been used in their latest digital stage piano CP4. Hopefully coming soon to other new Yamaha synths.
Thankfully we can load that piano on the MOXF whenever it is out :P Honestly I don't like the S6 that much for solo play - the bass notes sound thin and lifeless. It's great for the upper octaves though. I just can't connect with a piano sound that doesn't explode the moment I smash the bottom octave keys.
Hey, thank you so much for doing this comparison. I was leaning towards the Roland as some people have claimed that it just sounds better...but from what I'm hearing, the MOXF8 sounds better to me. The piano sounds a lot closer to the real thing. The classical guitar sounds much more like a classical guitar, and the electric guitar sounds much like an electric guitar when playing "Message in a Bottle." Plus, the MOXF8 even sounds better playing bass guitar. To me, the FA08 has better synthesizer tones and better electric guitar lead sound, though. But this isn't enough for me to buy the Roland. Additionally, the piano on the Roland sounds a little thin and sorta lack that natural full bass sound just as you'd hear in a real piano. My vote goes to the Yamaha.
I like the sounds of both, but feel the Roland outshines the Yamaha by a pinch. The way I would compare these two is as follows: 1. Both are workstations 2. Sounds are good on both. programming and tweaking can help satisfy to personal taste 3. Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc. 4. Roland has bigger, more beautiful and readable screen 5. Roland has vastly better sequencer 6. Roland allows you to save individual waves files of each track, or ensemble wav files 7. Roland has better mastering and effects features 8. Both have good VST linkup to a CPU 9. Roland allows downloading of new sounds and has more preset banks 10. Both have fine keybeds, especially the 88 key versions 11. Roland's front panel is less cluttered To me, workstations must FIRST be compared by functionality. Not sounds. Lots of boards have good sounds, and everyone has their specialty. Serious users of workstations need to compose, arrange, orchestrate, or just sketch-out songs and phrases. Often those projects are taken from the workstation to computer and a larger MIDI-Audio rig. It's about generating ideas and having a sequencer to help pave the way. While Yamaha has nice features and excellent sounds, there is NO WAY I would buy any version of the MOXF over the Roland FA or the Korg Krome. The Roland and Korg have some excellent sounds. No more than the Yamaha, but they absolutely BLOW THE YAMAHA AWAY in functionality. With today's technology, why the heck would I buy a music workstation keyboard that has a tiny screen and lacks modern-day functionality in song creation. Yamaha should pull the sequencer out of the MOXF and just make it a synth, kind of like the MX. Also, when it comes to workstation sequencers - in the mid range price category the KORG KROME simply BLOWS away the competition. The Roland FA however comes close and evens the field with some of its other features, like the audio wav exporting features.
//Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc// That's not at all a substitute.. Here the video deals with onboard sound comparison.. Including VST here doesn't make any sense..
I'm a fan of both Roland & Yamaha. For me, the main Roland concert grand is the best but for pretty much everything else the MOXF8 has it on sounds particularly the amazing Performances. However, that's only sounds. I suspect the Keynes action of the Roland and general build quality is better than the Yamaha. Plus the Roland has a proper sampler and the velocity pads and D-beam. Plus a much better screen. They're both awesome machines though!
I listened 2x with eyes closed. I listened to the sounds, not the pianist. Roland sounds a little better when you play a song, although the MOXF8 has nice sounds. Also, the F8 looks more attractive and has a better quality display. What I hear is 2 bad piano's, vibrato is not in any piano but audible in both. For now, I keep my G8 because it's the BEST I can get. I also agree that it's probably better than what I hear now.
Reece Pipes I bought the moxf6 on sale. This thing has the warmest filters I've ever used (I haven't used the Kronos or Motif properly so I'm not counting them).
Roland piano and bass cannot be compared to Yamaha Motif's any model. Roland is the winner obviously in respect to piano and bass sounds due to huge memory in Roland (loopless uncompressed sound and string resonance feature of piano in Roland that cause more realistic piano sound)
Tive ambos! Acho hoje a ROLAND superior, por causa da conectividade, facilidade e qualidade dos timbres. Não se enganem! Qualquer teclado da linha MOTIF, fica lindo em gravação em uma DAW ou em fone de ouvido. Quando você joga o timbre mono, em uma caixa, um P.A ou algo do tipo.. o timbre fica com um grave "aveludado", te forçando a fazer uma equalização específica para cada timbre, diretamente em cada P.A que você toca. Isso vem desde o MOX6, até os mais caros. A Roland não me desapontou por enquanto... já o meu motif, no primeiro descuido já quebrou a tela rs. São ótimos teclados, mas essa comparação ainda acho meio estranha, por se tratarem de propostas diferentes. Se fosse por lado a lado, eu ainda ia de Roland FA06.
Comes down to what kind of music you want to produce, and in some respects your skill level. Pianos go to the Roland. Arps go to the Yamaha. The latter hasn't changed their menu and navigation systems, which can be really un-intuitive and annoying at times. Too many button presses. The balance is that in the majority of cases you can produce pretty good stuff with the Yamaha despite the annoying and tiny menu screen. ORGANS: I NEVER liked the Motif line's organs, which just aren't expressive and dynamic enough out of the box. Roland organs bring proper expressiveness to the table without the need for too much tweaking. Creating and editing tones in the Yamaha is time consuming, which is not the case with Roland. Basses are better on the FA as well. SYNTHS If you do a lot of synth work and need expression get that Yamaha. It's an inspiration source that will NOT disappoint. This is especially true if you are using the arppegiators. Expressiveness/touch sensitivity: Yamaha STRINGS: Roland. BASSES: Roland #of tones: Roland SAXs: My experience with the Sax has never been so great. I have yet to discover if either the XF or the FA can deliver. EPs: Both are good. I like the Yamaha's dynamics and expressiveness, but Roland is not slouch by a longshot. Utility: Roland FA's just ahead because of the ability to import and export MP3, record samples, and use its 16 pads for live and on the fly backing, and pattern recording. The D-Beam is a plus and the stick is easier to use than the wheels on the XF...but that's a matter of taste and comfort. Roland also has a Monitor Out for drummer timing etc. Don't think the XF has that. The screen on the FA series is far and away better for navigating than that of the XF. Given tech advances today Yamaha should be ashamed to produce a screen that provides so little info for such a deep keyboard menu. Old man like me needs bifocals to see that scrappy screen these days. ARPS: Yamaha. I owned a MO6 once. The arp engine helped me in surprising ways for some of my music and that was very pleasing. Whether it's backing tracks or arppeggiated drums the XF will deliver inspiration almost without fail. The XF is so much better in the arps area because it has about 6000 arps. But not only that, it can layer multiple arps. Neither Korg nor Roland compete with that in the price range of the XF. PERFORMANCE: But for performance, ease of use and just massively more punchy R&B the Roland is the one to go for, I think. The feel of the keyboard is better (initially), on the XF6 than the FA06. But one can get used to virtually any keyboard if the device delivers what one is looking for. In the end try them and see for yourself. OVER ALL I'd go for the Roland just so I can flow better and with greater ease in some areas than with the Yamaha, which is bulky, if not heavy, (as they are making these budget oriented jammers much lighter these days), DESIGN: Yamaha needs to improve its keyboard design language...the XF is not much different in frame than previous MO line keyboards. My wife plays piano, but I'd be hard pressed to introduce her to the buttonesque XF. The intimidation factor is too high for the average workstation beginner. Roland fairs only a little better, but hey, their workstations, not pianos. I'm done. Hope this helped.
Everybody is different! I had a Motif xs for a few years and loved it, i made some amazing creative stuffs and took a real pleasure to play it every day. Later I bought a FA08 and sold it after one week, I hate the sound, the ridiculous sequencer, no intuitive approach for me, the sampler, lol. I hate the Supernatural acoustic sounds! Progressive yes but no life! Sorry, It's just "my" point of view. Sorry for my basic english!
I agree. I own super old Yamaha MO6 and Roland FA-06 and I prefer MO6. On paper FA-06 specs sound spectacular, but when I started to work with it, my initial excitement changed to a huge disappointment. I was literally in state of shock, how badly certain features were implemented. For example the "sampler" is a complete joke. It shouldn't be called like this. The pads are not velocity sensitive. They're just regular buttons. It's not even possible to export the pad track to .wav file with the rest of the song! There are so many things wrong with it that I could list, I could go on and on and on. When it comes to the user interface/user experience I feel like on FA-06 I have to do twice as many button presses to achieve the same goal as on the Yamaha. When it comes to the sounds, Roland sounds are just not exciting. Drums suck (at least when it comes to hip-hop/r&b). There might be 2000 patches in the FA-06, but the synth sounds sound so similar to each other on FA-06, that it feels like in reality there are 1/4 of the sounds.
Yamaha piano sounds are not as convincing as the Rolands, I have the FA-08 and have tested against the CP40(which i also own. But then again they(Yamaha) use the dated CFIIIS sample for most DP's......Roland use many EG the Steinway Hamburg.
I love yamaha products, but the yamaha seems to be organised like a cheap keyboard from 1985. Where as the roland layout seems to have excellent layout and useability.
owned a moxf8 sold it and am getting fa08 moxf has great sounds but yamaha doesn't add new sounds too often mostly the same since the es not to mention adding sounds sucks when u have to pay 300 for a 1gb flash and buy the sound library it also still doesn't have a color screen no sliders can only layer 4 sounds no sampler not saying the fa sampler is to die for but its there plus the moxf doesnt have pads....fa wins in my opinion but depends what u need....moxf sounds great and has a great key feel
kevinpsalms Some trade-offs. The Yamaha can only layer 4 tones, while the Roland can layers up to 16 tones. On the other hand, the Yamaha can have 4 different arpeggios running independently while the Roland can only use ONE arpeggio for all 16 tracks, not to mention limited selection of 128 arpeggios vs 8000+ arpeggios in the Yamaha.
Cool demo. Both are good keyboards. I still find Roland sometimes has a few weaker sounds in certain categories or puts them on expansion cards. I have more Roland gear than any other manufacturer and they tend to have my favorite individual sounds.The MOXF8 gives you solid sounds in all sound categories. No weak organs or strings etc. As well, what song is it that you are playing at 5:12? It's nice.
Roland Fa - for me is not on the same level as Fantom. Yamaha MOXF is a toy. Yamaha is a big lie. I was so long with yamaha keyboards and I lost my time with them. The Yamaha piano looks good, if you listen only the piano, but in the full mix ... is big shit. Roland and Korg they have not so "good" piano, but in the mix is perfect. Especially on the stage. In Yamaha you have so much sounds and when you need some sound for THAT SONG ... there is no such sound. Ok, next song. Oh, Yamaha don`t have good organ.... Ok next song - here I have solo and I need monster lead - come on, Yamaha don`t have again. What Yamaha put inside? Oh, there are alot of Robocop sounds in Montage. People, I am so proud that I bought other brand keyboard. Even the keys are better. Everything is better. I divorce with Yamaha !!!!
Between the two workstations in the same price class , Roland fa 08 and the Yamaha moxf8, I would have to go with the Roland. However, if it came down to arranger keyboards such as the Roland bk9 and the Yamaha PSR s970, I would go with the Yamaha. So if I had it my way, I would have the Roland workstation with the 61 key Yamaha arranger on top. Then I'd have the best of both worlds. And the moral of the story..., both companies Kick-Ass and it's a matter of opinion and taste.
Roland the best for me...!! Since 80's when I saw the great musicians like Foreigner, Nazareth, Wham, Michael Jackson, Allan Parsons, etc, using Roland in the differents models, Still 2019 Roland have a great Sint.
The Roland piano sounded a lil brighter then the Yamaha but with the settings on the Yamaha it sounded more real in depth with the polyphonic ambience my opinion
Both are really great machines. For one- this sounds better and for the other- the other sounds better... and it`s just like splitting hairs. The major thing is the concept between the FA and the MOX... and if the FA is the elegant "Millenium Falcon" then the MOX is the "Death Star" somehow. I prefer Yamaha myself (and own a MOX) but I also have some ol` vintage Roland devices in my setup, too... and it works ;-)
Both are great.FA for the supernatural sounds and ease of use ,moxf for great sounds,especially pianos ,guitars and drum kits and 1gb flash card option.
In my opinion, and I've played both, they both have their many strengths and weaknesses, but if you have the money, get a Kronos X! XD But seriously both are fantastic keyboards, I wish I could have them both in my collection!
Great demo! Both are great keyboards. Still can't decide which one I prefer. I'm a Roland guy (own 3 of them) but I've always wanted a Yamaha. Decisions, decisions! :-)
Roland is good, but Yamaha is better. Roland is especially good synth lead and drums, in the rest of the yamaha is superior to the roland plus yamaha has autoaccompaniment
I was fortunate enough to own both, I loved the FA08 but hated the action, sounds were very good on the FA but I prefer the Yamaha overall, and still own the MOXF8, and use it with the Fantom 08, Yamaha Modx7, Korg Krome EX 88, and a Roland VR09.. Am planning on selling the Korg, the VR09 and the Moxf8 to go a different direction.. Too much gear to setup and usually not enough space for my rig at gigs.. But the MOXF8 trumps the FA in my opinion, far superior sounds and the action is way better...
I'm looking at the 61 key versions but I think the guts are the same for both. I'm just going to sit at home and work up covers of songs I like and maybe post of my fb page. I will "record" instrument by instrument in real time. No computer editing, etc. So how do the sequencers compare? I read that the FA sequencer is very basic. I have a circa 1989 Ensoniq VFXsd and the sequencer is very powerful and intuitive. But it's dying.
Thanks for providing the comparison. I have been trying to decide between the two keyboards. Both boards sound great. I think the Roland has a slightly more clearer sound; however, I like the feel of the Yamaha which would make for a good controller and performance keyboard. Hard choices..
I think that the sounds I had on my Fantom G8 sound alot better then the FA-08. I do love Roland but the yamaha seems to have the sounds alot better made. I did get my chance to test both out at my local Guitar Center and liked the keys on the FA-08 because it felt like my G8. I sold my G8 for X reason but I might just re buy another G8 but in the best conditions I can find it because they are no longer being made. Over all i have to give to Yamaha for the sounds but the Roland is made with better feeling materials.
I went for a budget solution that still gives me the best of different worlds :-)) - A second hand Yamaha MOX6 (500 euro) EDIT: still have it but added a second hand MOXF8 with flash (900 euro) - A second hand Korg Krome 61 (600 euro) - A second hand Roland Integra 7 (1000 euro) - A second hand Roland FP8 (100 euro because it's own sounds were dead but still sends midi) So for 3100 euro I have the Yamaha, Korg and Roland sounds and goodies, controlled by the best 88 keys controller I ever experienced. (FP8 hammers feel like a real Grand) In my case the instruments never leave the attic and I have to admit this would not be handy for on the road :-))
I can see the Yamaha volume had to be turned all the way up, like in a live setting. Whereas the Roland probably did not need to be turned up on the volume since it naturally has the right amount of punch.
The electric guitar and the piano`s were better on the Roland, also the bigger display is better on the Roland. All other sounds were better on the Yamaha acoustic instruments sound more natural and synths more thick, the overall build in the Yamaha except the display is better then the Roland. A little sad for the performances because you showed just one good one the trance one and their are so many others, and like i said before electric guitars are not so good on the Yamaha and one of the performances was with an electric guitar. Yamaha got 8000 arpegios which you can all easely use in a performace or what so ever. I will go with the yamaha to be honest i got one here standing next to me aldo still a little jealous on the display and good piano sounds on the Roland.
Played on a FA-06, today at GC. They didn't have the FA-08 on display. The white keys are way short. Even compared to some of the other less expensive boards. That's where they skimped on the quality. Does it cost that much more for regular sized keys?
Try the FA-08. It's only the FA-06 that has the short keys because it had a synthesiser key bed instead of a piano keybed. Synth keys are usually shorter and they also don't have any weighting to them.
Creo que los pianos de Yamaha tienen más cuerpo que los de Roland, son mucho más limpios, esa crítica para todos los Roland, Yamaha tiene mejores pianos lamentablemente... Aunque tengo Ambos pianos me quedo con Yamaha en los. Pianos
Moxf8 is better in own both of them and I interviewed them and the producers of Roland had to agree that the moxf8 is better because it has way more sounds and sounds much more cleaner
I'm probably going to buy an FA06 in the next few weeks, thanks for this demo it's a big help in my decision, I like the sounds of the Roland better in most cases, although I have to say the sound for "Charlie" is so much better on the motif… surprising
Veronica McCarrison 1 year ago I don't just like Roland I am a fan of Kurzweil Keyboard I had a Yamaha motif - XS I just love music for music sake Veronica McCarrison 1 year ago (edited) I like the Roland WTF ????
Porque que yamaha no ha cambiado los Pianos de sus Motif? si MOXF tiene nuevos pianos porque no los muestras? Kurzweil Lleva casi 15 anios con el mismo sonido de piano, Roland tuvo ese problema hace anios, KORG siempre cambia sus Pianos
There's actually ways to edit each string instrument to make it sound more real. I have a moxf8 and have 3 songs on my new channel that shows what this keyboard is capable of. Check it out!
I would prefer fa, though both are great. Fa seems to be something better than mox in THIS video. The first piano on fa sounds far superior than the moxf pianos.
Ok so here is the breakdown on Roland vs Yamaha on their piano's. I personally love the sound of Roland, however as a person who performs live, Yamaha tends to do better on a PA system because the richness of the Roland tends to get lost in large woofers. Yamaha is more "bright" and projects better. That being said, Roland destroys in a studio environment when it comes to Piano. One thing that is not show in the video (because the OP was not getting into customizing) was that with THIS particular keyboard you can tweak the sound on the fly so much that it virtually makes the live benefits of the Yamaha disappear because you can make the FA regain the "brightness" for live settings. Yamaha needs to go back to the drawing board and make a nicer looking keyboard too...this looks like my late 90's/early 00's S03 which is basically a first generation digital cheese stick lol.
I didn't think Yamaha would sound this much better. Roland insists on their engine which I think will make them unable to match others at any price. The Yamaha has a much better keyboard, too. And Roland's products have cheap build quality. Dark days ahead until they get back on track I think. They did the SE-02 and the JD-Xi. Those are good for the price.
Yo if that is truly the case, I might have just leaned even more heavily towards the Yamaha. I've been leaning there even compared to the Krome. I miss that about my Nord Lead 4, the ability to upload new sounds. To be able to do that on the MOXF8 would be dope. I just wish there were sample pads on it haha.
Dwayne Blackwell So can the Roland FA08. I’ve added like 50 plus Grand pianos, and 40 plus Electric Pianos on top of the ones I already have. That 1GB of flash cost 300.00 for the MOXF8. I can go to the Roland axial website and download my sounds for free.
Seeking recommendations on a good amplifier for my MOXF8. The one I bought for $80 is no good and doesn't carry out the sound frequencies especially for the higher treble notes (everything sounds boomy). Please share the one you're using or recommend a good one. Thanks.
I don't have a Keyboard Amp, personally, but if I do ever buy one I'm going for a Roland KC-110 or 220. They're usually in the $400 range but they are one of the only stereo-in-one keyboard amps available.
I was on the fence far as which one to buy for the longest time. My biggest factor was i didn't like the feel of the key bed on all the new Motifs, even on the big boys. Felt cheaply made. Both boards sound AWESOME but i ended up purchasing the fa-06. The key bed on my old 88 Korg Triton LE feels killer compared to the key beds on all the new 88 key Motifs. All in all. Its all about your preference & desire for the board. They all sound great in my opinion.
Ok Kingdomminded it's hard to say which I prefer that why I purchased both!! Yamaha sounds in my opinion are great for church. The FA08 lets me layer and put in atmospheric textures that help in prayer and talk music. You see it's like having an additional car.. One for work and one for family...
WoW!! Question. During church when you are using the MOXF8 is it easy for you to layer, and split without taking up a whole lot of time? We have a Roland at the church, so I already understand how the Roland keyboards think. But I really want to get the MOXF8. But I've been hearing that this keyboard is difficult to operate. Is it true?
the MOxf8 with the layer functionality is easiest in my opinion!!!! i used it recently at another church to add Strings during prayer and it was fantastic!!! very good on the fly!!!!!
todos hablando de lo mismo pianos, Guitarra,blabla bla,q con trompetas ,saxes brass,diganme por favor cual es el mejor su amigo David Valle El Paso TX gracias.
True… The Roland does have a good concert grand sound. However, i'm still missing the soundboard resonance that a real piano has when you press the sustain pedal and play Notes. Yamaha has that down to a T, but Rowland hasn't seemed to catch up on that, and until they do, I will always choose Yamaha over Roland for piano sounds. I own the MOXF8 and I am more than satisfied with it. I specially like the S6 concert grand for playing jazz. As far as usability? I don't understand what people are saying when they say the Yamaha is not user-friendly. The front panel was very easy to figure out, and tweaking your sound can be very easy depending on what you want to do. For instance, if you just want to change the ADSR settings, two clicks of a button and a few twists of the knobs will get you there. The other sounds on the Yamaha are also better, for the most part, then the Roland, At least in my opinion. There are a few exceptions, like that acoustic bass on the Roland and that distorted guitar, and I imagine the Legado mode on the Roland is probably a little bit better for analog synthesizer leads van is on the Yamaha, but other than that, The Yamaha wins hands-down for me.
Both instruments are amazing, mine is X8 Roland, some pianos are better on Roland some others in YAMAHA, but you can buy any of them will not be disappointed.
Which one you prefer for a general solo piano cover sound?
Thank you.
Conclusion: Even an objective comparison is subjective to fans.
I like the Roland
I watched this video a year or two ago and finally made the purchase last week for the FA-08. I love the keyboard action and responsiveness and how quick it is to get the sound you want. The MOXF8 sounds nice but looks like a total bitch to program/edit.
I have had a MOXF for about a year. Some of the sounds are fantastic, like acoustic piano, strings, guitar, brass, even organs. The synths aren't bad but they just dont stand out in the mix with my cover band. The synth sounds on my Korg Triton can drown out my lead guitar player.
I definitely choose the FA-08! Yamaha gives very good sounds, but Roland moves a whole lot more!
Great video! Congratulations and thanks for uploading it!
No the Fa08 doesn’t have more, you are just obsessed with how it looks. Nothing beats Yamaha
I have a Roland Fa-07 and I must admit that Yamaha has much better guitar and sax sounds. I found that......I should buy a MODX. The two of them should be enough......for some time.
Am i the only one who think Roland is better in this video?
You're not alone. I like this Roland a lot more to be honest. Especially the bass and piano sounds. So I have no idea why some people say that the piano is better on the MOXF. The Roland sounds much more open. But it might also be that the audio quality in the FA-08 video is better. I don't think this is a fair video. So in reality the MOXF could be the best choice. I can't say for sure.
Phranque Peasant I love the Roland, I've owned a lot of Rolands but I dare say the piano on the Yamaha is more realistic. I can easily identify Roland piano sounds from a mile away.
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roland seems to have more high freq. )
I think the Roland sounds more "synth-y", since it's sound engine has also virtual analogue and modeling, MOXF8 is only sample based. I also prefer the Roland's sounds.
the xf has a lot of features that the FA does not have, ton of arpegiators, the pattern mode which works great, more sounds. On the other hand i love my FA, very easy to use, great audio interface, great sounds, i could not choose so ended with both..
Não tem comparação!
Roland FA06 Tem timbres muito superiores em relação ao MOX06.
Talvez o MOXF06 Se aproxime, mas n chega ao pés do FA 06
Give me one of each, Please! I think on average, the Yamaha sounds a bit warmer, and the Roland a bit edgier.
Yamaha did what it usually does it sounds good on realistic instruments but the
synth sounds are not good and Roland sounds great in the Bass department and drums but the piano sound engines sound kinda thin and that's the way they have always been. Not good or Bad that is just each keyboards strong and weak points.
Both sound good, but i just preferred the Roland, maybe because it has the Integra sound!
Very similar but Roland wins due to better clarity and the little details in the sounds such as guitars, and better studio sets than the yamaha
The heart of any S+S workstation is the sampler. Yamaha allows multiple wav's per tone hence the switching between the bass articulations & noises appeared natural. Roland for many years relied on their unique tone structure to manipulate less samples. This I suppose contributed to tasty synthetic pads/leads etc. However, when Roland starting pushing the so-called SuperNatural engine - a lot of us believed that they have stepped up on the deeper multisampling. I'm not sure ry fat this demo really delves into those aspects though.
My big gripe with these comparisons , are that they only deal with the single patches when we're really buying a complete workstation. So the question to be answered is - which overall functionality including sounds used in complete composition, is the better ?
even Roland is better for lead and pads and Yamaha is better for piano and El piano
I sold the MOX6 and bought the FA06. Very disappointed. These sounds are not INTEGRA. Quality timbres are few, mostly synth. Piano is worse than my VST Plugin 10 years ago. I will sell and buy MOXF, even though they have the worst hull I've ever seen in my 50 years ...
MOXF8 - GOOD!!!!
Yamaha MOXf8. I do own an FA06.
Great video. Good sound, playing and no waffling. I wish more youtube videos were like this.
Certainly both of these keyboards compete well with each other. The FA has it on the pianos, and punchy basses, but the guitars are just that much more expressive on the XF. There isn't anything to complain about between these two. I'd buy both too, if I could. Each has special capabilities that would cover the gamut of expressiveness for me. The choice is difficult at best. I'm leaning on that FA for sheer versatility, but ooh, (as I've commented before), Yamaha's arp engines are second to none, and boy do I need a tool like that. When it comes down to menu navigation, WAV/MP3 export, audio input options, effects and ease of use the FA gets that extra star.
In my opinion, one of the reasons all Yamaha keyboards' piano voices sound the same is that Yamaha always samples their own Concert Grand Piano CFIIIS. This particular piano has very distinctive tone characteritcs which are a bit dark and wide. And this is the piano showed in this video. However, there is also a Yamaha S6 6' handmade grand piano sampled in MOXF and Motif XF. It has a tone color that is more familiar to people (more studio like)(S6 is not showed in this demo). ------------Comparatively, Roland has been sampling/modaling pianos from different manufactures including Yamaha, Steinway and more, giving customers a wider chioce.------------It seems that Yamaha has noticed that not all people like the sound of CFIIIS. Their acoustic piano department has developed the next-gen Concert Grand Piano called CFX (It has a much brighter and more classy tone). The CFX sample has been used in their latest digital stage piano CP4. Hopefully coming soon to other new Yamaha synths.
Thankfully we can load that piano on the MOXF whenever it is out :P
Honestly I don't like the S6 that much for solo play - the bass notes sound thin and lifeless. It's great for the upper octaves though. I just can't connect with a piano sound that doesn't explode the moment I smash the bottom octave keys.
Ele tendencia para o yamaha claramente. Ambos os teclados tem timbres fantásticos
Motif sounds are way better then Roland but Roland looks way better
Hey, thank you so much for doing this comparison. I was leaning towards the Roland as some people have claimed that it just sounds better...but from what I'm hearing, the MOXF8 sounds better to me. The piano sounds a lot closer to the real thing. The classical guitar sounds much more like a classical guitar, and the electric guitar sounds much like an electric guitar when playing "Message in a Bottle." Plus, the MOXF8 even sounds better playing bass guitar. To me, the FA08 has better synthesizer tones and better electric guitar lead sound, though. But this isn't enough for me to buy the Roland. Additionally, the piano on the Roland sounds a little thin and sorta lack that natural full bass sound just as you'd hear in a real piano. My vote goes to the Yamaha.
I like the sounds of both, but feel the Roland outshines the Yamaha by a pinch. The way I would compare these two is as follows:
1. Both are workstations
2. Sounds are good on both. programming and tweaking can help satisfy to personal taste
3. Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc.
4. Roland has bigger, more beautiful and readable screen
5. Roland has vastly better sequencer
6. Roland allows you to save individual waves files of each track, or ensemble wav files
7. Roland has better mastering and effects features
8. Both have good VST linkup to a CPU
9. Roland allows downloading of new sounds and has more preset banks
10. Both have fine keybeds, especially the 88 key versions
11. Roland's front panel is less cluttered
To me, workstations must FIRST be compared by functionality. Not sounds. Lots of boards have good sounds, and everyone has their specialty. Serious users of workstations need to compose, arrange, orchestrate, or just sketch-out songs and phrases. Often those projects are taken from the workstation to computer and a larger MIDI-Audio rig. It's about generating ideas and having a sequencer to help pave the way. While Yamaha has nice features and excellent sounds, there is NO WAY I would buy any version of the MOXF over the Roland FA or the Korg Krome. The Roland and Korg have some excellent sounds. No more than the Yamaha, but they absolutely BLOW THE YAMAHA AWAY in functionality. With today's technology, why the heck would I buy a music workstation keyboard that has a tiny screen and lacks modern-day functionality in song creation. Yamaha should pull the sequencer out of the MOXF and just make it a synth, kind of like the MX.
Also, when it comes to workstation sequencers - in the mid range price category the KORG KROME simply BLOWS away the competition. The Roland FA however comes close and evens the field with some of its other features, like the audio wav exporting features.
//Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc//
That's not at all a substitute.. Here the video deals with onboard sound comparison..
Including VST here doesn't make any sense..
“Workstations must be judged on functionality, not sounds”
Are you kidding? Your first priority is always how good does it sound.
You did the best styling of guitar playing I've seen so far. It's not always the perfection of the sound, but the style of playing.
That Roland is pretty sick. The Motif sound library is the absolute sauce though. There's just no getting around it. The sounds just POP.
The Pattern mode of the MOXF is a very nice Feature for Live gigs as the heart of a one man electro synth set up.
I'm a fan of both Roland & Yamaha. For me, the main Roland concert grand is the best but for pretty much everything else the MOXF8 has it on sounds particularly the amazing Performances. However, that's only sounds. I suspect the Keynes action of the Roland and general build quality is better than the Yamaha. Plus the Roland has a proper sampler and the velocity pads and D-beam. Plus a much better screen. They're both awesome machines though!
I listened 2x with eyes closed. I listened to the sounds, not the pianist.
Roland sounds a little better when you play a song, although the MOXF8 has nice sounds. Also, the F8 looks more attractive and has a better quality display.
What I hear is 2 bad piano's, vibrato is not in any piano but audible in both.
For now, I keep my G8 because it's the BEST I can get. I also agree that it's probably better than what I hear now.
Yamaha is good, but at least in this video Roland got the cake.
MOXF8 is the best for me
I don't just like Roland I am a fan of Kurzweil Keyboard I had a Yamaha motif - XS I just love music for music sake
The piano on FA kinda disappointed me :(
Yash Chauhan same very poor
Reece Pipes I bought the moxf6 on sale. This thing has the warmest filters I've ever used (I haven't used the Kronos or Motif properly so I'm not counting them).
Veronica McCarrison
I am fan of YAMAHA
Do you have a Kurzweil PC3K8? Is that better than Yamaha Montage? Thanks & God bless you!
Roland piano and bass cannot be compared to Yamaha Motif's any model. Roland is the winner obviously in respect to piano and bass sounds due to huge memory in Roland (loopless uncompressed sound and string resonance feature of piano in Roland that cause more realistic piano sound)
Tive ambos! Acho hoje a ROLAND superior, por causa da conectividade, facilidade e qualidade dos timbres. Não se enganem! Qualquer teclado da linha MOTIF, fica lindo em gravação em uma DAW ou em fone de ouvido. Quando você joga o timbre mono, em uma caixa, um P.A ou algo do tipo.. o timbre fica com um grave "aveludado", te forçando a fazer uma equalização específica para cada timbre, diretamente em cada P.A que você toca. Isso vem desde o MOX6, até os mais caros.
A Roland não me desapontou por enquanto... já o meu motif, no primeiro descuido já quebrou a tela rs.
São ótimos teclados, mas essa comparação ainda acho meio estranha, por se tratarem de propostas diferentes. Se fosse por lado a lado, eu ainda ia de Roland FA06.
i purchased both!!!! they have different personalities!!!!!!!!!
So which do you like better personally? How are the Grand Pianos, and Electric Pianos on the FA08?
Comes down to what kind of music you want to produce, and in some respects your skill level. Pianos go to the Roland. Arps go to the Yamaha. The latter hasn't changed their menu and navigation systems, which can be really un-intuitive and annoying at times. Too many button presses. The balance is that in the majority of cases you can produce pretty good stuff with the Yamaha despite the annoying and tiny menu screen.
ORGANS:
I NEVER liked the Motif line's organs, which just aren't expressive and dynamic enough out of the box. Roland organs bring proper expressiveness to the table without the need for too much tweaking. Creating and editing tones in the Yamaha is time consuming, which is not the case with Roland. Basses are better on the FA as well.
SYNTHS
If you do a lot of synth work and need expression get that Yamaha. It's an inspiration source that will NOT disappoint. This is especially true if you are using the arppegiators.
Expressiveness/touch sensitivity: Yamaha
STRINGS: Roland.
BASSES: Roland
#of tones: Roland
SAXs: My experience with the Sax has never been so great. I have yet to discover if either the XF or the FA can deliver.
EPs: Both are good. I like the Yamaha's dynamics and expressiveness, but Roland is not slouch by a longshot.
Utility: Roland FA's just ahead because of the ability to import and export MP3, record samples, and use its 16 pads for live and on the fly backing, and pattern recording. The D-Beam is a plus and the stick is easier to use than the wheels on the XF...but that's a matter of taste and comfort. Roland also has a Monitor Out for drummer timing etc. Don't think the XF has that. The screen on the FA series is far and away better for navigating than that of the XF. Given tech advances today Yamaha should be ashamed to produce a screen that provides so little info for such a deep keyboard menu. Old man like me needs bifocals to see that scrappy screen these days.
ARPS: Yamaha. I owned a MO6 once. The arp engine helped me in surprising ways for some of my music and that was very pleasing. Whether it's backing tracks or arppeggiated drums the XF will deliver inspiration almost without fail. The XF is so much better in the arps area because it has about 6000 arps. But not only that, it can layer multiple arps. Neither Korg nor Roland compete with that in the price range of the XF.
PERFORMANCE:
But for performance, ease of use and just massively more punchy R&B the Roland is the one to go for, I think. The feel of the keyboard is better (initially), on the XF6 than the FA06. But one can get used to virtually any keyboard if the device delivers what one is looking for. In the end try them and see for yourself.
OVER ALL I'd go for the Roland just so I can flow better and with greater ease in some areas than with the Yamaha, which is bulky, if not heavy, (as they are making these budget oriented jammers much lighter these days),
DESIGN: Yamaha needs to improve its keyboard design language...the XF is not much different in frame than previous MO line keyboards. My wife plays piano, but I'd be hard pressed to introduce her to the buttonesque XF. The intimidation factor is too high for the average workstation beginner. Roland fairs only a little better, but hey, their workstations, not pianos. I'm done. Hope this helped.
Tyre Lee tnx best reply!
best reply! , I LIKE YAMAHA SOUNDS BUT ROLNAD UFFFFFFF
UFFFFFF means SUCKS???
I PREFER ROLAND FA 08
Everybody is different! I had a Motif xs for a few years and loved it, i made some amazing creative stuffs and took a real pleasure to play it every day. Later I bought a FA08 and sold it after one week, I hate the sound, the ridiculous sequencer, no intuitive approach for me, the sampler, lol. I hate the Supernatural acoustic sounds! Progressive yes but no life! Sorry, It's just "my" point of view. Sorry for my basic english!
I agree. I own super old Yamaha MO6 and Roland FA-06 and I prefer MO6. On paper FA-06 specs sound spectacular, but when I started to work with it, my initial excitement changed to a huge disappointment. I was literally in state of shock, how badly certain features were implemented. For example the "sampler" is a complete joke. It shouldn't be called like this. The pads are not velocity sensitive. They're just regular buttons. It's not even possible to export the pad track to .wav file with the rest of the song! There are so many things wrong with it that I could list, I could go on and on and on. When it comes to the user interface/user experience I feel like on FA-06 I have to do twice as many button presses to achieve the same goal as on the Yamaha. When it comes to the sounds, Roland sounds are just not exciting. Drums suck (at least when it comes to hip-hop/r&b). There might be 2000 patches in the FA-06, but the synth sounds sound so similar to each other on FA-06, that it feels like in reality there are 1/4 of the sounds.
Yamaha piano sounds are not as convincing as the Rolands, I have the FA-08 and have tested against the CP40(which i also own. But then again they(Yamaha) use the dated CFIIIS sample for most DP's......Roland use many EG the Steinway Hamburg.
my calculator has a bigger screen than the Yamaha...
Guitars sound better on Yamaha and Piano sounds better on Roland
I love yamaha products, but the yamaha seems to be organised like a cheap keyboard from 1985. Where as the roland layout seems to have excellent layout and useability.
owned a moxf8 sold it and am getting fa08 moxf has great sounds but yamaha doesn't add new sounds too often mostly the same since the es not to mention adding sounds sucks when u have to pay 300 for a 1gb flash and buy the sound library it also still doesn't have a color screen no sliders can only layer 4 sounds no sampler not saying the fa sampler is to die for but its there plus the moxf doesnt have pads....fa wins in my opinion but depends what u need....moxf sounds great and has a great key feel
kevinpsalms Some trade-offs. The Yamaha can only layer 4 tones, while the Roland can layers up to 16 tones. On the other hand, the Yamaha can have 4 different arpeggios running independently while the Roland can only use ONE arpeggio for all 16 tracks, not to mention limited selection of 128 arpeggios vs 8000+ arpeggios in the Yamaha.
Cool demo. Both are good keyboards. I still find Roland sometimes has a few weaker sounds in certain categories or puts them on expansion cards. I have more Roland gear than any other manufacturer and they tend to have my favorite individual sounds.The MOXF8 gives you solid sounds in all sound categories. No weak organs or strings etc. As well, what song is it that you are playing at 5:12? It's nice.
I'm going to buy both together
Roland Fa - for me is not on the same level as Fantom. Yamaha MOXF is a toy. Yamaha is a big lie. I was so long with yamaha keyboards and I lost my time with them. The Yamaha piano looks good, if you listen only the piano, but in the full mix ... is big shit. Roland and Korg they have not so "good" piano, but in the mix is perfect. Especially on the stage. In Yamaha you have so much sounds and when you need some sound for THAT SONG ... there is no such sound. Ok, next song. Oh, Yamaha don`t have good organ.... Ok next song - here I have solo and I need monster lead - come on, Yamaha don`t have again. What Yamaha put inside? Oh, there are alot of Robocop sounds in Montage. People, I am so proud that I bought other brand keyboard. Even the keys are better. Everything is better. I divorce with Yamaha !!!!
Between the two workstations in the same price class , Roland fa 08 and the Yamaha moxf8, I would have to go with the Roland. However, if it came down to arranger keyboards such as the Roland bk9 and the Yamaha PSR s970, I would go with the Yamaha. So if I had it my way, I would have the Roland workstation with the 61 key Yamaha arranger on top. Then I'd have the best of both worlds. And the moral of the story..., both companies Kick-Ass and it's a matter of opinion and taste.
Yamaha MOXF8 -OK!!!! - Лучше чем Роланд!
Viktor Vasin Знакомые все лица)))) Yamaha guy )))
Медведь на ухо наступил , Роланд рулит!!!
Roland the best for me...!! Since 80's when I saw the great musicians like Foreigner, Nazareth, Wham, Michael Jackson, Allan Parsons, etc, using Roland in the differents models, Still 2019 Roland have a great Sint.
The Roland piano sounded a lil brighter then the Yamaha but with the settings on the Yamaha it sounded more real in depth with the polyphonic ambience my opinion
Both are really great machines.
For one- this sounds better and for the other- the other sounds better... and it`s just like splitting hairs.
The major thing is the concept between the FA and the MOX... and if the FA is the elegant "Millenium Falcon" then the MOX is the "Death Star" somehow.
I prefer Yamaha myself (and own a MOX) but I also have some ol` vintage Roland devices in my setup, too... and it works ;-)
Both are great.FA for the supernatural sounds and ease of use ,moxf for great sounds,especially pianos ,guitars and drum kits and 1gb flash card option.
Guitars and piano are much better on the Yamaha.
Roland is better!
Every time when I thought Roland sounds not very good, Yamaha was even worse...except Acoustic Guitar.
In my opinion, and I've played both, they both have their many strengths and weaknesses, but if you have the money, get a Kronos X! XD
But seriously both are fantastic keyboards, I wish I could have them both in my collection!
Kronos sound so light compare to Roland and Yamaha. Both has a bold and full sound.
Great demo! Both are great keyboards. Still can't decide which one I prefer. I'm a Roland guy (own 3 of them) but I've always wanted a Yamaha. Decisions, decisions! :-)
Roland wins!!!
Roland is good, but Yamaha is better. Roland is especially good synth lead and drums, in the rest of the yamaha is superior to the roland plus yamaha has autoaccompaniment
I was fortunate enough to own both, I loved the FA08 but hated the action, sounds were very good on the FA but I prefer the Yamaha overall, and still own the MOXF8, and use it with the Fantom 08, Yamaha Modx7, Korg Krome EX 88, and a Roland VR09.. Am planning on selling the Korg, the VR09 and the Moxf8 to go a different direction.. Too much gear to setup and usually not enough space for my rig at gigs.. But the MOXF8 trumps the FA in my opinion, far superior sounds and the action is way better...
I'm looking at the 61 key versions but I think the guts are the same for both. I'm just going to sit at home and work up covers of songs I like and maybe post of my fb page. I will "record" instrument by instrument in real time. No computer editing, etc. So how do the sequencers compare? I read that the FA sequencer is very basic. I have a circa 1989 Ensoniq VFXsd and the sequencer is very powerful and intuitive. But it's dying.
Thanks for providing the comparison. I have been trying to decide between the two keyboards. Both boards sound great. I think the Roland has a slightly more clearer sound; however, I like the feel of the Yamaha which would make for a good controller and performance keyboard. Hard choices..
I think that the sounds I had on my Fantom G8 sound alot better then the FA-08. I do love Roland but the yamaha seems to have the sounds alot better made. I did get my chance to test both out at my local Guitar Center and liked the keys on the FA-08 because it felt like my G8. I sold my G8 for X reason but I might just re buy another G8 but in the best conditions I can find it because they are no longer being made. Over all i have to give to Yamaha for the sounds but the Roland is made with better feeling materials.
piano-wise the yamaha motif sound engine is better by far like farrr !!!
I went for a budget solution that still gives me the best of different worlds :-))
- A second hand Yamaha MOX6 (500 euro) EDIT: still have it but added a second hand MOXF8 with flash (900 euro)
- A second hand Korg Krome 61 (600 euro)
- A second hand Roland Integra 7 (1000 euro)
- A second hand Roland FP8 (100 euro because it's own sounds were dead but still sends midi)
So for 3100 euro I have the Yamaha, Korg and Roland sounds and goodies, controlled by the best 88 keys controller I ever experienced. (FP8 hammers feel like a real Grand)
In my case the instruments never leave the attic and I have to admit this would not be handy for on the road :-))
Yamaha Ovviamente! Forever!!
I can see the Yamaha volume had to be turned all the way up, like in a live setting. Whereas the Roland probably did not need to be turned up on the volume since it naturally has the right amount of punch.
The electric guitar and the piano`s were better on the Roland, also the bigger display is better on the Roland. All other sounds were better on the Yamaha acoustic instruments sound more natural and synths more thick, the overall build in the Yamaha except the display is better then the Roland. A little sad for the performances because you showed just one good one the trance one and their are so many others, and like i said before electric guitars are not so good on the Yamaha and one of the performances was with an electric guitar. Yamaha got 8000 arpegios which you can all easely use in a performace or what so ever. I will go with the yamaha to be honest i got one here standing next to me aldo still a little jealous on the display and good piano sounds on the Roland.
Willy Wonka!!!
Played on a FA-06, today at GC. They didn't have the FA-08 on display. The white keys are way short. Even compared to some of the other less expensive boards. That's where they skimped on the quality. Does it cost that much more for regular sized keys?
Try the FA-08. It's only the FA-06 that has the short keys because it had a synthesiser key bed instead of a piano keybed. Synth keys are usually shorter and they also don't have any weighting to them.
I don't knooooo! I like the piano and trance sounds of the yamaha but the rolands synth sounds and layout is better. Hmmmmmmmmm?
Roland takes the cake, for me anyway.
Creo que los pianos de Yamaha tienen más cuerpo que los de Roland, son mucho más limpios, esa crítica para todos los Roland, Yamaha tiene mejores pianos lamentablemente... Aunque tengo Ambos pianos me quedo con Yamaha en los. Pianos
Leonardo Pinto yo tengo el motif xs, creo que seria un buen complemento el roland fa mas que el moxf, que opinas tu?
Having used both, I think they're both great boards but the Roland has the edge on Yamaha.
El Roland es el MEJOR COMO EL KROME
potato cire si es cierto
yo tengo una roland fa 06
Music that was played in 10:25?
A stupid/strange question.....Is it possible to play difficult classical pieces at such pianos???For example, Liszt's or Beethoven.....?????
i would say roland
Very nice sounds and well played, i like it.
Greetings Maurice
Excellent! I like the Mox. especially because if the piano sounds.
Moxf8 is better in own both of them and I interviewed them and the producers of Roland had to agree that the moxf8 is better because it has way more sounds and sounds much more cleaner
I'm probably going to buy an FA06 in the next few weeks, thanks for this demo it's a big help in my decision, I like the sounds of the Roland better in most cases, although I have to say the sound for "Charlie" is so much better on the motif… surprising
Yes, on this video Roland sounds better then Yamaha.
i am impressed. with playing expertise like yours, any board will sound better.
Did I offend you so sorry. I guess old musicians have low self-esteem
Offend who?
Yash Chauhan you offend me Yash bad boy hahaha :D
Veronica McCarrison 1 year ago
I don't just like Roland I am a fan of Kurzweil Keyboard I had a Yamaha motif - XS I just love music for music sake
Veronica McCarrison 1 year ago (edited)
I like the Roland
WTF ????
Read her other comments. She either doesn't really know anything, doesn't know English very well, or just likes typing silly comments. Strange.
What's going on here?
Porque que yamaha no ha cambiado los Pianos de sus Motif? si MOXF tiene nuevos pianos porque no los muestras? Kurzweil Lleva casi 15 anios con el mismo sonido de piano, Roland tuvo ese problema hace anios, KORG siempre cambia sus Pianos
There's actually ways to edit each string instrument to make it sound more real. I have a moxf8 and have 3 songs on my new channel that shows what this keyboard is capable of. Check it out!
Роланд звучит ярче)
I would prefer fa, though both are great.
Fa seems to be something better than mox in THIS video.
The first piano on fa sounds far superior than the moxf pianos.
Ok so here is the breakdown on Roland vs Yamaha on their piano's. I personally love the sound of Roland, however as a person who performs live, Yamaha tends to do better on a PA system because the richness of the Roland tends to get lost in large woofers. Yamaha is more "bright" and projects better. That being said, Roland destroys in a studio environment when it comes to Piano. One thing that is not show in the video (because the OP was not getting into customizing) was that with THIS particular keyboard you can tweak the sound on the fly so much that it virtually makes the live benefits of the Yamaha disappear because you can make the FA regain the "brightness" for live settings. Yamaha needs to go back to the drawing board and make a nicer looking keyboard too...this looks like my late 90's/early 00's S03 which is basically a first generation digital cheese stick lol.
I didn't think Yamaha would sound this much better. Roland insists on their engine which I think will make them unable to match others at any price. The Yamaha has a much better keyboard, too. And Roland's products have cheap build quality. Dark days ahead until they get back on track I think. They did the SE-02 and the JD-Xi. Those are good for the price.
Outstanding! Get you a case of beer for that!
I went with the Yamaha moxf8 it can load more sounds via flash that means better pianos and synth sounds plus the keybed feels great
What do you mean "load more sounds via flash"? Does that mean you can download or buy sounds from somewhere else and use them?
Tech Hybrid thanks for your help! Do you have to buy these?
Yo if that is truly the case, I might have just leaned even more heavily towards the Yamaha. I've been leaning there even compared to the Krome. I miss that about my Nord Lead 4, the ability to upload new sounds. To be able to do that on the MOXF8 would be dope. I just wish there were sample pads on it haha.
Dwayne Blackwell So can the Roland FA08. I’ve added like 50 plus Grand pianos, and 40 plus Electric Pianos on top of the ones I already have. That 1GB of flash cost 300.00 for the MOXF8. I can go to the Roland axial website and download my sounds for free.
Seeking recommendations on a good amplifier for my MOXF8. The one I bought for $80 is no good and doesn't carry out the sound frequencies especially for the higher treble notes (everything sounds boomy). Please share the one you're using or recommend a good one. Thanks.
I don't have a Keyboard Amp, personally, but if I do ever buy one I'm going for a Roland KC-110 or 220. They're usually in the $400 range but they are one of the only stereo-in-one keyboard amps available.
Piano - Roland""""""""""""
Roland FA/08 THE Beast!!
Yamaha MOXF8
Roland sounds better
I was on the fence far as which one to buy for the longest time. My biggest factor was i didn't like the feel of the key bed on all the new Motifs, even on the big boys. Felt cheaply made. Both boards sound AWESOME but i ended up purchasing the fa-06. The key bed on my old 88 Korg Triton LE feels killer compared to the key beds on all the new 88 key Motifs. All in all. Its all about your preference & desire for the board. They all sound great in my opinion.
Ok Kingdomminded it's hard to say which I prefer that why I purchased both!! Yamaha sounds in my opinion are great for church. The FA08 lets me layer and put in atmospheric textures that help in prayer and talk music. You see it's like having an additional car.. One for work and one for family...
WoW!! Question. During church when you are using the MOXF8 is it easy for you to layer, and split without taking up a whole lot of time? We have a Roland at the church, so I already understand how the Roland keyboards think. But I really want to get the MOXF8. But I've been hearing that this keyboard is difficult to operate. Is it true?
the MOxf8 with the layer functionality is easiest in my opinion!!!! i used it recently at another church to add Strings during prayer and it was fantastic!!! very good on the fly!!!!!
Mark Eaton Is it easy to operate?
The MOXF is not hard u have a short learning curve if your unfamiliar with the board but it isn't very hard!!!!!!!
todos hablando de lo mismo pianos, Guitarra,blabla bla,q con trompetas ,saxes brass,diganme por favor cual es el mejor su amigo David Valle El Paso TX gracias.
True… The Roland does have a good concert grand sound. However, i'm still missing the soundboard resonance that a real piano has when you press the sustain pedal and play Notes. Yamaha has that down to a T, but Rowland hasn't seemed to catch up on that, and until they do, I will always choose Yamaha over Roland for piano sounds. I own the MOXF8 and I am more than satisfied with it. I specially like the S6 concert grand for playing jazz. As far as usability? I don't understand what people are saying when they say the Yamaha is not user-friendly. The front panel was very easy to figure out, and tweaking your sound can be very easy depending on what you want to do. For instance, if you just want to change the ADSR settings, two clicks of a button and a few twists of the knobs will get you there. The other sounds on the Yamaha are also better, for the most part, then the Roland, At least in my opinion. There are a few exceptions, like that acoustic bass on the Roland and that distorted guitar, and I imagine the Legado mode on the Roland is probably a little bit better for analog synthesizer leads van is on the Yamaha, but other than that, The Yamaha wins hands-down for me.