The 'Exclusive Brethren': Church Or Cult?

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  • A Perth man's revealed the heartache of seeing his family torn apart by what he believes is an extremist cult. Matt Cook was raised in the "Exclusive Brethren" and was forced to leave because he was gay... he's bravely shared his story with 10 News First.
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  • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz11.11
    @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz11.11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    TAX SCAM CULT.

  • @jgilbertson636
    @jgilbertson636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's also 8 years since I left. Thank you for sharing your story. ❤️

    • @theophilus7016
      @theophilus7016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do you have a new church?

    • @jgilbertson636
      @jgilbertson636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theophilus7016 no. Haven't found any church that isn't steeped in shame

    • @theophilus7016
      @theophilus7016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jgilbertson636 may god help you to find one.

    • @BeautyfullSunrize
      @BeautyfullSunrize 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May you continue to find peace and happiness one day at a time.

    • @clintonmorris6307
      @clintonmorris6307 ปีที่แล้ว

      My wife left but went back to them I do hope she's ok

  • @Lumisatheselkiequeen
    @Lumisatheselkiequeen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I left in 2020 when I turned 18 and I hope anyone like me who might be trapped in a similar situation realizes they are strong enough to leave

  • @MarlomRV
    @MarlomRV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm an ex Jehovah Witness. I can relate a lot to that story...

    • @leslieholt6464
      @leslieholt6464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m a former member of the brethren and my best friend is a previous jehovah witness and are childhoods were extremely similar

    • @Djr67
      @Djr67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leslieholt6464 I worked for these people for many years in town in NSW

  • @NAETEMUSIC
    @NAETEMUSIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I mean this explains why Aleister Crowley was the way he was.

  • @tacky4237
    @tacky4237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The word of God is not exclusive nor is it secretive.

    • @Daniel24445
      @Daniel24445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And it does not evolve or change.

    • @tacky4237
      @tacky4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Daniel24445 amen
      Matthew 24:35
      35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

  • @anthonyjohn3202
    @anthonyjohn3202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my goodness! I am only seeing this now. My story exactly only I got married for 16 years and cut off from my family.

  • @eloisecole3579
    @eloisecole3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You are lucky to have escaped this cult mate, im happy for you.

  • @dementiacare.7177
    @dementiacare.7177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    South Africa too

  • @saramartinez9248
    @saramartinez9248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We now live in a world where is impossible to consider God the most important part of our life, people just do not understand it ...

    • @mikaylaholt4772
      @mikaylaholt4772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They do NOT consider God the most important part of their lives. I grew up in this cult and it is nothing but brainwash and worship of the leader. He uses God as a way to control them. There is nothing holy about that place

  • @clarescottsf
    @clarescottsf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm working with a guy from the church. He's targeted me. Ignores me, avoids me, trying to isolate me. He's super nice to everyone at work but me he's a horrible guy. Ever since he learnt I'm an independent, solo mum who says no women needs a man, pro abortion and pro vaccination andof no religion. You can tell he thinks I'm Evil. Man he is!
    How do I deal with him?

    • @Acediscoface
      @Acediscoface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Completely ignore him.

    • @BigBlackCrypto
      @BigBlackCrypto ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wear bright colours & perfumes... talk about pop culture openly. And enjoy the outside world he shutters away from. 😁 live freely. Or wear a shirt w/ a bird on the outside of a bird cage....

    • @MMM-dq9jj14up
      @MMM-dq9jj14up 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But, Clare, whether you like it, or not, You Do Have a religion, "YOUR OWN BELIEFS, & Phylosophy, of life" My Family are in them in Tassie, they only mix with others of their own 'IDENTICAL' Beliefs ! They did not even come to little brother's Funeral ! Only the man, is the Head of The House, Wife has to tell him everything !
      I say, you do have your own thoughts on life, cos, Like Chief Inspector Morse Of Oxford, (TV SHOW, 72;) he, like me are both devout Pagans.

    • @Jaydaydesign
      @Jaydaydesign 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ignore him yet report his behaviour to HR re harassment and discrimination so they can keep an eye on him and take action where appropriate. ( if it is a brethren run business leave because you are never going to get support from management)
      I would also look for a job elsewhere . If you feel unsafe leave.

  • @michaelsamuels9901
    @michaelsamuels9901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    me to breathern disowned for being gay till my parents died and my brother does not talk to me ither

    • @ConnorGhostHeart
      @ConnorGhostHeart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry to hear about this. I hope you are doing better now. Has anything changed since then?

  • @droptuned83
    @droptuned83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cult , absolutely!

  • @smophie6260
    @smophie6260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s literally one of these church/ meeting place things in my town umm

  • @MamaMia....
    @MamaMia.... ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad he's built a loving family of his own moving forward.

  • @TheBushrangianOrder
    @TheBushrangianOrder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gotta respect the "no compromise" standard.

  • @emiaware
    @emiaware 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nonsense! The Bible says we were called into the church (one body) to have freedom not being chained with anything Col. 3:15-16. The bible serves as a guide for Christians to follow so that they won't break the principles of their salvation, not as law. The bible itself also says that the strength of sins is the law 1 Cor. 15: 56. Law is a devil trap to so many Christians and a workshop for tribulations. The more you begin to realize things, the better for you. The funniest part is that they should have used 'The Exclusive brethren' as the name not adding those tautologies words as Plymouth Brethren Christian Bible Gospel Church, The names are funny. Who are the Plymouth? Who are the brethren? Who are the Christians? Who are the Church? What are the differences between them? Please! Please! Go back to that Bible and rightly divide the word of truth that will lead to salvation from the way you think it should be (living beyond your life). Your doctrinal practices towards new testament principles is 30%. I can't even recommend the best enemy of mine to be a member there.

  • @clintonmorris6307
    @clintonmorris6307 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife left but she never fully left and went back to them

  • @johnnyboyle4811
    @johnnyboyle4811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:45 they did that for badness

  • @MrShogun25
    @MrShogun25 ปีที่แล้ว

    now you have the word so you see for your self what the book told us...theres no peace or happyness with out the sprit the gift given yull find out in time i hope you dont get to messed up befor you know truth come back while you can

  • @dirkatuan
    @dirkatuan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Perhaps we should look at the works of John Nelson Darby and the decision makers of the Church like Bruce Hales. I find the doco extremely empty and void of fact and lack of investigation into the truth and history here in Australia. God our creator sent His son Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. He did this out of Love, not to condone sin but to forgive it for those who believe. We are all rife in sin , each and every one of us but we may not to condone it.
    Love your children, help them , but don't excommunicate them. That to me is an abomination in itself.

    • @sheilanixon4479
      @sheilanixon4479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus also ate with publicans tax-collectors , and "sinners " -people who did not keep all the 638 Jewish Laws to the letter. , but the Brethren say one can only eat with fellow members.These male Exclusive Leaders , are mysoginists and male chauvinists. They are often rude , forceful characters , and put all male believers as well as female ones, who do not agree with their views,out of the meeting. These people are shunned or banned. and lose all contact with their families.

  • @danniellemason8388
    @danniellemason8388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happens if there is a fire or a emergy and someone has life threating injury's

  • @hirimezr3353
    @hirimezr3353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live across the road from an old school but they still use it

    • @smophie6260
      @smophie6260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The one where im living was a old pre school, what is up with them and old schools?

  • @fenbury
    @fenbury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Meh, look they are a.bit different. They are not a cult, cults actively recruit... they are the opposite. Cant keep pigeonholing people like that. I work for a.brethern business, fine people, just dont want nothing to do.with the outside world

  • @JPIIIT
    @JPIIIT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not at all what I have experienced as a member of The Church Of the Brethren

    • @MamaMia....
      @MamaMia.... ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's great, for you, but what about Matt?

  • @philcollins6046
    @philcollins6046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely a cult

  • @juliearnold9282
    @juliearnold9282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's not love

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Modern day Pharisees

  • @kassrripples3659
    @kassrripples3659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems so much like the LDS and such in Utah and Colorado in USA... polygamy sects ... sheep farms except the sheep and the female breeders...

  • @rayrussell1519
    @rayrussell1519 ปีที่แล้ว

    no branches in hatfield

  • @timmymcsnikens7743
    @timmymcsnikens7743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m gonna bring these people down I’ll avenge all of you I promise

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mind control! ✝️

  • @JustasIam
    @JustasIam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Following the Word of God is not a cult.....if you choose not to that's not your families fault. God does not tolerate sin....you need to repent

    • @Martin-rs6yx
      @Martin-rs6yx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm sorry but I do differ as I was withdrawn from a few days after my 18 birthday and I'm now 65 years old (messed up the first few years of my life after, but married with grown-up children and have wonderful grandchildren also a member of a local evangelical church who doesn't judge you but shows LOVE. )
      I believe that the exclusive Plymouth Brethren is a cult as you do as you are told are told or you will be shut up and then withdrawn from with very little love shown to you. I think that one thing Jesus taught us is to love one another and I believe that LOVE is mentioned over 300 times in the bible.

    • @JustasIam
      @JustasIam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Martin-rs6yx I'm so sorry to hear that, I too, am very messed up and only left 5 years ago but before that me and my family were out for 30 long years.....long story short I still love my brethren but sadly they follow a man rather than the Shepherd. I still don't call them a cult but I do think they are occupied too much with themselves to the exclusion of other Christians who are equally members of the body of Christ, they think of themselves more than the Lord. I think God is securing hearts individually especially in these last days. There sure is a lot to pray for....take courage brother the Lord is coming to take us home soon....

    • @eloisecole3579
      @eloisecole3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Every religion is a cult.

    • @herbertwilkshire4265
      @herbertwilkshire4265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha you're an idiot

  • @broz1488
    @broz1488 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😂 one doesn't have to be a cult to reject homosexuality.

    • @CJC0017
      @CJC0017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brethren are evil

    • @broz1488
      @broz1488 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CJC0017 why are the Brethren evil? How many babies in their cots and youth at a music festival have they killed?

  • @applemuffin7253
    @applemuffin7253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If loving the lord is wrong, I don’t want to be right !!

  • @skippy1012
    @skippy1012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just like jws. Wow

  • @rayrussell1519
    @rayrussell1519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no tv radios sounds great

    • @noname-oo4pr
      @noname-oo4pr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then why do you use internet?

  • @moobrah9640
    @moobrah9640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess there will be no brethren comments aye...ha

  • @tarageier6184
    @tarageier6184 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cult or no cult.
    The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin.

    • @brinjoness3386
      @brinjoness3386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The bible can say whatever it wants, I wouldn't read it. But it also says love thy neighbour, I am led to believe.

  • @nicsmith9148
    @nicsmith9148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So we are supposed to judge good Christians ....???

    • @CJCappella
      @CJCappella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nic Smith - Lol... clearly you’re part of them. So obvious.

    • @leannecheater9713
      @leannecheater9713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CJCappella if he was part of them he wouldn't be on TH-cam. Believe me they don't get to interact

    • @ShadowNymph2010
      @ShadowNymph2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The world will judge. Christians should not. Part of their denomination or not.

    • @CJCappella
      @CJCappella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leanne Cheater - they have accounts... Albeit surreptitiously.

    • @purplefairy4489
      @purplefairy4489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus is judge ...thank God .

  • @HebronprayerhousePalakol
    @HebronprayerhousePalakol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry for that, But Let's just not call it a CULT, because it's a bad, hurtful word......Actually the Open & Exclusive brethren are from one Spiritual body - "Plymouth brethren", but due to the work of satan they got divided in 1848. From the early 1st century, the satan used to divide the Churches like in the Corinthian Church, he used to bring some disputes over a tiny little things and following it a great disaster happens, So just don't call it Cult but remember we all are the one universal body of Christ.

    • @djhallmighty
      @djhallmighty ปีที่แล้ว

      Even cults can be Christian; even the Pharisees were Jews.

    • @castropianoforte
      @castropianoforte 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Locked gates. No windows. Meetings at 6am on Sundays. Yes, they're a CULT.

    • @CJC0017
      @CJC0017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is a cult. I escaped after 4 years of exorcisms. Gus's what the judge said. CULT SECT

    • @CJC0017
      @CJC0017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@djhallmightyJesus hated the Pharisees .

  • @Djr67
    @Djr67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is Christianity, Christianity isn't about love, thats a fallacy.

    • @CJC0017
      @CJC0017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Christ is not Christianity.

    • @Djr67
      @Djr67 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CJC0017 😂😂😂