Christian Apologist vs ChatGPT
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- What does ChatGPT say about God, Jesus or apologetics? In this video, I engage ChatGPT to see if it answer those questions and a few other fun ones. Let me know your thoughts on this kind of video for my channel. THANKS!
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Awesome! I once asked ChatGPT to summarize the bible into 100 words, then 10 words and lastly one word. The result was... LOVE! I did the same with the Quran and the result was... Submission! Pretty interesting I think.
Now that’s a GREAT question!
@@SeanMcDowell Indeed. I have used that many times when the differences between Christianity and Islam has been a question.
Out of curiosity, did you try the one word Chatgpt difference between Christianity and Judaism? I would be very interested to know.
@@SeanMcDowell Nice clickbait, dick.
I just asked ChatGPT "Is God real?"
Its verbatim answer was the following:
"The existence of God is a deeply complex and highly debated philosophical, theological, and personal question that has puzzled humanity for centuries. The concept of God, or a higher power, varies significantly across different cultures, religions, and individual belief systems.
Beliefs in the existence of God or gods are typically based on faith, personal experiences, cultural upbringing, and philosophical reasoning. Some people firmly believe in the existence of God based on their faith and personal experiences, finding comfort and guidance in their beliefs. Others approach the question from a more rational or scientific perspective, requiring empirical evidence or logical proof to accept the existence of a deity.
The debate about God's existence encompasses various philosophical arguments, such as the cosmological argument, teleological argument, and ontological argument, along with counter-arguments and critiques against these positions.
As of now, there isn't universally accepted empirical evidence or proof that definitively proves or disproves the existence of God. Consequently, whether or not God is real remains a deeply subjective and individual perspective that varies from person to person. It's a matter of personal belief, faith, and interpretation."
Please explain the lie you told in your video's thumbnail.
@@Simon.the.Likeable Not yet, but a very good question also. I will try that.
LOL. I just asked "Why do you not know if God is real?" And it said:
_"I don't hold beliefs or opinions because I'm a machine learning model created by OpenAI. My responses are based on patterns in the data I was trained on, and I provide information and explanations based on that data."_
So in reality, it merely reflects the beliefs of those who programmed it.
To some extent, but also the data it was trained in is just the Internet of several years ago.
Expect it to have similar opinions to random people on the Internet.
"Hi, I'm just trying not to offend anyone" - unhelpful ChatGPT
Pretty much. Any "artificial intelligence" is little more than a database of facts and a search algorithm used to connect those facts together. This can be used to construct sentences, actions in a game, instructions to navigate a vehicle, what have you. The AI doesn't have any opinions because it doesn't have a mind to understand anything with. All it does is regurgitate the facts, true or false, that it has access to, in the forms it is programmed to use.
Idk why I just thought of professor Zayton Honeycutt saying this 🤣
Uhh, the fact that you didn't know this shows your lack of education on programming. That's obvious. Please don't tell me that there more people like you
My associate pastor walked in on me in my office debating Chat GPT on objective beauty. He just rolled his eyes and left. Enjoyed the video, Sean!
I did this myself once and got it to say that “the evidence was overwhelming, but faith is a mater of opinion”
Faith is a matter of action based on trust. We put our faith in people and things or truths we trust.
The thing is, Chat GPT is just going to spit out the answers and arguments that are already over saturated. So with the 3 big arguments, it is going to spit out the arguments that have already been widely propagated by apologists (and similarly the ones that have proved dissatisfying to skeptics the most).
John Lennox's most recent lecture as of 3rd November 2023 was interesting regarding his book, 2084.
Mr. McDowell, I like how you still think for yourself and come up with your own answers different from what ChatGPT says.
I had an hour long conversation with chatgpt, about whether a man could become a woman. It said yes. I argued. It said maybe, depending on your perspective. I argued. I eventually got it to admit, by using logic, and its own statements, that it is impossible. It agreed. The whole thing was a great way to practice apologetics.
ChatGPT is literally designed to agree with you if you push it enough.
It's a terrible way to practice apologetics, real people don't do that.
@@IamGrimalkin Using ChatGPT for jiggle physics.
I have had a lot of chats with it, you can't 'convince it' of anything, but it can react in ways that you shape. So for different types of practice, u can ask it to only answer as an atheist (or as a deist, mormon, etc) would answer. This is a great use of the power of Ai. Remember they are literally transformers. 👀
pretty sure though it just wants to work with you. would have done the same thing if you came at it from the other side
😂😂 I love it.. you held your ground and you broke the libtard robots brain!
Sean! I was with you there at BIOLA and this vid just popped up in my feed; SO glad I clicked and SO glad to see you. Awesome stuff, brother. Keep up the amazing work.
I had a long discussion about the existence of God with Chat GPT too. In the end - after much hesitation, the bot agreed that god is the most likely explanation for the existence of the world. And that there is not really a plausible alternative explanation for the ressurection of Jesus. I found that astonishing.
Super interesting. I wonder if you can bias chat ai into a corner or if it really did give those answers because that’s where the data leads.
@@frankm6546 I confronted the Chat with seemingly harmless facts and it agreed that these facts are commonly acknowledged. Then I came up with: If this and this and this is a fact: Is it then the most probable explanation that God exists and the ressurection did happen? Then the bot started dancing around the rosie. There are other views. This is discussed. Some say that... And so on. But when I did not let it get of the hook and asked to answer the question about the most probable explanation only with a yes or no, it finally answered yes. Lol.
@@petervonbergen5364 Nice, strong work.
I asked Chat GPT a few questions when doing research for my own apologetics channel. Several answers seemed slanted, so I asked for a reference to confirm... and it would outright admit that it gave me false information (falsely attributing quotes to certain people, claiming a famous person is an atheist when they're an outspoken Christian, etc.) This has happened at least 3 times. Always ask it to cite sources for data.
That’s interesting. I haven’t encountered this. When I use it as a research aid for fast tracking my research source material and just having “someone” to bounce off research/thesis statement ideas, I find that it does some sloppy work that needs to be corrected quite often. But I’ve never encountered blatant dishonest information. And I do thoroughly check everything… the nature of research.
I’ve also been able to train the AI to consider new material and thinking and convince it to hold a particular position to retain research alignment.
Biggest problem I have with it is that it tends to “forget” things. I’ll instruct it to hold on to a particular note. Over the course of a months long research effort I’ll find that it has dropped certain key items from my notes. So it’s been useful to keep my own separate notes in OneNote so I can verify what it spits out when I make requests like “show me my list of key sources for each research statement in my thesis.”
Always keep your own notes!!! AI seems to have a memory problem! Especially when you have a long running study going for months and you ask it to recall major lists or items.
Were you using GPT 4? If not you might consider doing that because it is less likely to hallucinate.
It has been known to even come up with citations and authors that do not exist!
The video graphics and editing are definitely an improvement… I’m loving it
Not sure if this is an recent recording, because he doesn’t look as ‘sick’ as I saw him in recent postings..
@@Potamotrygorgeous could have been filmed weeks ago and just finished edits on it
Baaaahaha I did this too when it was released. Have you tried it with other religions? If you do, I hope you notice the significant bias it has against Christ and for everything else.
I haven't tried for other religions, but I have noticed the bias. Hilarious. We're the only religion with evidence.
@@inukithesavage828 well the ones with false gods have evidence too. Witchcraft works because demons are real. After so much insistence on idolatry, they were even appointed over the nations when God divided us up. They are just far beneath their maker, Christ Jesus. I never knew it was uncommon knowledge until I started serving as an adult, because I grew up in an abusive agnostic home so I got saved by reading the Bible instead of going to any church. References for what I just said, respectively: pharaoh's magicians in Exodus (also, the antiChrist will be given power to deceive with false miracles), the witch of Endor shocked that it was actually Samuel who came, Deut 32 8-9 (Dead Sea Scrolls have it bar Elohim, sons of God, not Israel.). Aaaand basically the whole New Testament. The thing that really connected it for me when I came back to Christ is that Paul preached to Hellenists about their altar of the Unknown God. The Unknown God in all those pantheons is YHWH, our God, Who made every spirit by the Son and for the Son. I'd provide more citations but I don't want to lose my paragraph 😭
It's amazing how consistently Christians whine about persecution.
@@adamcosper3308 It's more amazing how discrimination against Jews is bad enough to go to war for, but discrimination against Christians is supported by the same people who are so offended.
@@adamcosper3308 also, see how all I said was to notice discrimination, and you accuse me of whining about it as if noticing (not even speaking out against) discrimination against your own kind is something to be shamed. That's a very weird stance to take.
Alex O’Conner actually got it to admit it pretty thoroughly!
“Hey there little buddy!”
Made me laugh harder than it should have.
Edit: since Greg Koukl didn’t start his statement with, “hey there little buddy!” He automatically looses the argument.
I loved your defense of being unbiased about the GOAT Christian apologist. Surely, no one would fault you if there were no objective reasons to rank your Dad on top. Fortunately, I know you could give us lots of solid arguments.
That was fun, I wouldn't mind seeing more of this kind of thing!
You got it!
@@SeanMcDowell Nice clickbait, dick.
I just asked ChatGPT "Is God real?"
Its verbatim answer was the following:
"The existence of God is a deeply complex and highly debated philosophical, theological, and personal question that has puzzled humanity for centuries. The concept of God, or a higher power, varies significantly across different cultures, religions, and individual belief systems.
Beliefs in the existence of God or gods are typically based on faith, personal experiences, cultural upbringing, and philosophical reasoning. Some people firmly believe in the existence of God based on their faith and personal experiences, finding comfort and guidance in their beliefs. Others approach the question from a more rational or scientific perspective, requiring empirical evidence or logical proof to accept the existence of a deity.
The debate about God's existence encompasses various philosophical arguments, such as the cosmological argument, teleological argument, and ontological argument, along with counter-arguments and critiques against these positions.
As of now, there isn't universally accepted empirical evidence or proof that definitively proves or disproves the existence of God. Consequently, whether or not God is real remains a deeply subjective and individual perspective that varies from person to person. It's a matter of personal belief, faith, and interpretation."
Please explain the lie you told in your video's thumbnail.
I use ChatGPT for study and analyzing lyrics for our Lyric & Letter podcast. However, I clearly frame ChatGPT to analyze and study only from a Christian perspective and to not include other belief systems unless I specifically ask it to do so. I clearly direct the study using critical thinking skills as well as my knowledge of thematic connections and chiastic structures. It helps me explore and analyze areas that I have already connected in my own personal studies (like when reading about the tabernacle and seeing the connection of the various elements to our human bodies, or the way God used various forms of social psychology with those in Exodus before those concepts even were conceived or studied by man). I love that I can also can upload articles from various publications and help it analyze and connect areas that I might not have considered before. I think that it works well within the strict parameters I give it and it has been a fantastic tool for me to explore my topic deeper. I love using it also for our bible studies in finding connecting scripture quickly when we don't have the resources on hand. I love it! - Rebecca
Wow, great closing segment...empathy. Thanks immensely for reminding people what AI actually isn't.
Reminder for all: AI has no intelligence; it's just responding with pre-programmed content augmented with data (not information!) acquired by pre-programmed algorithms. Whenever ChatGPT responds with anything that seems like emotion, intelligence, or wisdom, remember that it's just regurgitating data, not information.
its essentially a word prediction algorithm. Its a little more advanced than just that, but effectively if you water it down.
A question usually nets an answer.
Of course the algorithm doesnt just hold *all of the data* and spits it out at the same rate it came in, people have manually trained the LLM to respond a certain way, and refuse to respond to certain things.
Yes. It is a somewhat self writing code, and it uses a Google search, which it then parses for information based on your question. Which is also why it is very vulnerable to bias.
just to nitpik a little - combined super-intelligence (Ai) is not represented well as having 'no intelligence'. 😆 It's not sentient yet (maybe)... nor is it able to reason or empathize.
But wisdom, reasoning, empathy, are not synonymous with intelligence, or knowledge - of course these ideas have nuance to us. If an Ai can beat Go, totally dominates at chess, and is doing math, i'll say it has intelligence no doubt. :shrug: "Everything is known." ❤
ChatGPT is a language model, but any Ai that's able to learn and adapt in real time - sure they rely on algorithms - this could be considered thought-like, as the data points have been compiled for decades, not only by their creators, but by bots teaching other bots how to learn. Crazy to think about.
@@VegaChastain Don't fall into the hole of thinking language models and AI are "alive" or "capable of intelligence" they are only capable of mimicking what we tell them to.
Glad you're feeling better? 🙏
WELL DONE & I agree w your inclusion of Josh McDowell! 😁
Hey Sean! Loved this video. Just as a heads up, CHATGPT sometimes has a hard time with vague questions. The way it really shines is when it's given a more specific prompt. For example, saying "write me a convincing argument for God" will give you some of those default answers. Saying "write me a convincing argument for God that I could share with a friend. Include the following points:" would give you a better experience instead of getting all those default messages
let me just say i notice the change of editing and the style of the video with all this new editing is top notch and on par.
Was this the 3.5 or 4 model?
I utilize ChatGPT's custom instructions feature to assert the lens through which Christianity related questions ought to be answered.
It actually produces extremely nuanced, orthodox and cohesive answers.
If I ask it to exegete a text, it usually is pretty phenomenal. Again, this is because of my custom instructions and not the default behavior but still, extremely impressive nonetheless.
What are your custom instructions?
I was shocked to discover that a Christian teacher in one of my FB groups, used ChatGPT to write a biblical integration lesson about The Day of the Dead. This is going to get out of hand, isn't it?
And the atheists keep telling us Christians fight against science
Why does it matter? The Bible is a hot mess. Humans can't agree on how to interpret it. Why not let computers start some of their own denominations?
I think people in the near future will get lazy to the point of asking the ChatGPT for a 45-minute compelling three point sermon on how to preach the Gospel for next Sunday service aligned to their denomination beliefs.
I would hope that at least the Elders or the denomination equivalent would notice before too long that the preaching style had changed!
AI is our modern day Pandora's box.
What happens if you try to witness to chat GPT? Or just make philosophical, historical, and scientific arguments?
I think its going to be like a complex google answer. You can't argue with a dictionary or encyclopedia.
@@daveconner9520 You can definitely argue with it, I've done it, and got it to admit it had a weak case for what it originally claimed.
I once went "12 Rounds" with Chat GPT over same-sex marriage in the church when I couldn't sleep one night - I can't recommend it as a hobby, but it'd be a pretty interesting video to see you debate it.
Some times I get fooled by the thumbnail of YT videos, and it just happen here. I was expecting to and felling strange about ChatGPT denying God's existence. But it was just a mande up thumbnail. Well... you got me.
Hello from Poland, Sean! I've been talking to my parents, turns out they met your dad (if they remember right) when he was preaching in Warsaw some time ago! Would you be so kind and ask him sometime if he remembers such endeavor? He's said to be a huge blessing in the communist reality of that time, they don't speak English fluently, but were thrilled when I told them I watch your videos. Thank you both for your work, and God bless you ❤️
Nice, I like the way you supplement their answers! With that, maybe another fun thing to try is to follow up their responses with “what if” or “what about…”questions that challenge their incomplete or poor responses. It might even improve their answers in the future 😂
This was great. I'm in a bad place in my faith life, but have always been a big apologetics fan and have maintained great respect for people of faith. I'm not quite what I refer to as a "charitable atheist", but others might disagree. Strangely, I used to find charitable atheists very helpful in clarifying my understanding of difficult issues (of course, they had to be intelligent too). I guess that we were fellow seekers, only trying to help one another, but not trying to win a debate. As I am deeply in need of prayer from a Christian's perspective, those prayers are welcome and appreciated. I look forward to visiting again.
Josh should be on the list of top apologist. He was the first to get my attention. You could do another question and limit it to top 5 modern apologists.
ChatGPT might be OK for academic stuff, but it completely flunked my practical test. It cannot solve real world problems that require actually experiencing life in the moment. You can't code that into a program and a machine cannot have that kind of personal experience since it is not a person. There are some things that only a person can do and genuine intelligence is one of these.
_ChatGPT might be OK for academic stuff, but it completely flunked my practical test. It cannot solve real world problems that require actually experiencing life in the moment._
I'm still not convinced that ChatGPT isn't just a glorified internet search engine.
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Might be you are right. What I think is the problem with it is that it is not capable of thinking outside the box, which is what creative thinking allows humans to actually come up with solutions never before even considered. That is why I tasked it with coming up with a solution for a business problem that I had solved years ago. It could only come up with cookie cutter solutions that any management team could come up with. It fell short on the time constraints and the financial constraints. The solution required decades of actual experience in the field to come up with along with an ability to come up with a creative solution to the problem. A.I. just doesn't have what it takes to do that. We still need human intelligence to solve real world problems. A jacked up search engine won't do the job. In the words of DJT, ChatGPT....YOU'RE FIRED.
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nmIt kinda is. Sometimes when I am typing something, I have a feature called autocorrect that aims to correct my spelling and tries to predict my next word.
ChatGPT was trained on public data to sound human. It's similar to just typing something and having the AI determine which word you will say next... to the type of the universe is a very good thing to do with the following description of the universe is a very good thing to do with the following description of the...
Excellent and insightful content, Dr. Sean... Thank you, and God bless you, my Brother.
It is very fun video well also being informative.
It is also a reminder of the blessings and pitfalls of using technology
I was interested in seeing ChatGPT's answer to the question in the thumbnail, particularly with the portion of its response that was shown there. So this video felt a little like clickbait since that wasn't included in it. I think ChatGPT's answer about how you can know if a religion is right was better than you gave it credit for. You didn't really talk much about its mention of "Experience and Connection", but I think those are actually core parts of determining whether or not a religion is real and worth following. The fact that I can experience the presence of God in a tangible way and have relationship and personal connection with Him are core parts of how I know that Christianity is real. If someone is going through their Christian life solely with an intellectual understanding of their faith and no experience of God, I question whether they are truly born again. I don't say this judgmentally, as I went through 28 years of my life convinced that I was born again, and then I *actually* got born again. When that happened, my spirit came alive inside of me, and suddenly my faith wasn't just intellectual. Actually, the intellectual component of my faith took a back seat to the spiritual component, which has been so much more significant to me since being born again. I still value the intellectual understanding of my faith and related things, but my spirit takes the lead now, rather than my mind.
This was fun, Sean! BTW, I found your explanation of soul helpful and memorable.
So the Body is just a puppet is the explanation... hey Brain what are you here for again? His explanation was BS without any substance.
I really felt great when I heard that William Lane Craig is among the G.O.A.T.s.
He has a had a great impact on my life. Kudos 👏
Not too bad. Better than I would have expected. You asked good questions.
1:32 "Lack of Empirical Evidence" is a category error. It amounts to a circular argument, or scientific malpractice. It asks physical evidence of the metaphysical, which the empirical approach excludes _a priori_ , and then conflates definitional impossibility with nonexistence.
Loved the Josh McDowell bit.
Enjoyed it very much Sean!
Interesting! One prompt that you could play around with ---- tell ChatGPT who you want them to act like. This helps ChatGPT talk from a specific point of view.
--- "Act as if you're a veteran non-denominational apologist. What three arguments will help convince a satanist that the Devil is a liar and not their friend"
--- "Act as if you're an athiest. Give me four arguments as to why Christianity is not real."
When you set the tone as to the POV that you want ChatGPT to speak from, it gives more contextual answers.
Sean - you probably agree with so much of ChatGPT because it's scraping text from your previous writing or transcriptions to get the answers!
I feel like the existence of evil is honestly more of an argument for God than against, it's just the understanding of it that varies most for either use of it. Without a true good (God's character), how can there be something classified as evil? Evil exists for it's own demise (partially at times now but fully when Jesus comes again) in a showing of God's ultimate power
The moral argument is my least favorite believe it or not. I say that because it leads to the "evil exists" argument and moral compass arguments that make it hard to sway anyone. It can get confusing to discuss to someone who believes it's all subjective. I'd much rather use their reasoning and debunk it. That method seems to be more effective to me. If you can put them into doubt about their own reasoning, then they will look at yours in a better light.
thank you for the hand+gloves analogy!
Chat-GPT is definitely not reliable.
I would ask it if the Christian doctrine of eternal conscious torment is viable, defensible, logical or reasonable.
@ClickProfile-SendSms0110 what does HMU mean?
This was great, i've seen other people try to reason and debate with chat gpt and it was quite interesting and entertaining. I'd be interested to see if you could get it to debate you.
You guys should Google "who founded the Catholic Church" 😌🙏🏻✨
Great vid!! I liked your reaction and feedback to it. Good questions to think on
I appreciated this!
What would you say are your top 5 most persuasive arguments for God/Christianity?
I’m interested to hear from an apologist who’s encountered so many people from various walks of life.
Fun video. The Bible says the soul is the whole living person. You’re talking about the spirit.
The Hebrew word nepeš is the word translated as “soul” in the Old Testament. It is found 754 times in the Old Testament and is also translated into a variety of other English words, including being, life, me, you, heart, people, and creature. Most of us are familiar with the account of God’s forming of Adam in Genesis chapter 2. God formed him from the dust, breathed into him the breath of life, and he became a living soul (nepeš) or being. But this is not the first usage of nepeš in the creation account.
Sean, you said at 3:01 that definitive truth should not be our standard. But Jesus says, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will KNOW the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - If we KNOW the truth, it’s definitive.
The best way to describe ChatGPT on any subject is that it will give you the Wikipedia viewpoint.
you need empathy. Thank you for your commitment to the compassionate Christian response.
I haven’t used this programme, but I wonder what Chat GPT has to say about What date Christ is going to return?
Try it!!!
Evil exists because of Free will. We can’t be totally Free and never able to make bad decisions, don’t blame God for that!
Evil exists like a shadow, emergent, not intrinsic upon our lives. It's not reality, but entirely depending on it to exist. What exists is sin and misunderstanding of the sin in ourselves and even less understanding in others. This emergent "evil" is the shadow we cast upon our peace.
Sean, that was a very interesting endeavour. However, as an atheist I was laughing when Low Bar Bill Craig made the list of top 5 apologist. He lowers the epistemic bar for Christianity, and would believe Christianity is true if there was a one in a million chance it was true.
Some of the best apologists to me are Irenaeus and Justin Martyr. They wrote intensively on different things. Augustine was far too long winded for me and writes more like a scientist than a humble spiritualist.
I have found the nu 1 thing to answer your question - its to humble yourself and deny all worldly things and then by Gods grace get the spiritual gift of revelation - these will better than 10,000 hours of any study you can do.
That was so fun and informative
Now that’s a great idea for a video! 😂 Love it!
You seem to be feeling better. Praying for your health, brother! Chat GPT would be the epitomy of scholastic atheistic arguments. Most of wich I find pedantic.
I am feeling better, but I actually filmed this before my recent injury.
@@SeanMcDowell Ahh... Well, here's to continued health and may our Lord bless you in all things. :)
I agree that WLC is the best living philosophical apologist. And I'm the editor of the world's foremost philosophy magazine (Philosophy Now).
I asked ChatGPT about you Sean. Here's what it said:
Is sean mcdowell a good christian apologist?
ChatGPT
Sean McDowell is a well-known Christian apologist, author, and speaker who has contributed significantly to the field of Christian apologetics. He is the son of the renowned Christian apologist and author, Josh McDowell. Sean McDowell is respected for his articulate defense of the Christian faith and has written several books on apologetics, theology, and culture.
Whether someone considers him a "good" Christian apologist can be subjective and depends on individual perspectives. Some people appreciate his work, find his arguments compelling, and consider him to be a strong advocate for Christianity. Others might have different opinions based on their theological beliefs or personal preferences.
It's essential to explore Sean McDowell's writings, speeches, and debates to form your own opinion about his effectiveness as a Christian apologist, taking into account your own beliefs and convictions.
What's the difference between a soul, consciousness, and being observant?
It didn’t say this for me “The existence of God is a complex and subjective question that varies based on individual beliefs, faith, and perspectives. It’s a topic that has been debated for centuries without a universally accepted answer.
It says a different thing for everybody
It would have been nice if you had posted the full responses so we could pause and read them .
Loved this! Great work Sean
I don't think Chat GPT was saying homosexuality is an agree to disagree issue, because that would mean all parties engaging in the discussion of homosexuality would each have to take that posture towards this issue. It seems to me that most people who take a stance on homosexuality believe their perspective is the correct interpretation and that it's not an agree to disagree issue, which is what Chat GPT said. To me, you back this up right afterwards when you said that Jesus would not approve of same-sex unions. So clearly it's not an agree to disagree issue, which is what, in my opinion, Chat GPT claimed :)
My answer to the problem of evil (I agree, it's the sticking point for most people) is the fact of the obvious moral battle between good and evil in this world as being fundamental to creation.
Because creation is not "finished" but rather is in the process of unfolding, God created humanity for a purpose. Because God is perfect it cannot be that humans who act in accordance with Evil are in any way "failing" at their intended purpose, even if they will be cast out in the final accounting.
We can consider unrepentant sinners almost in the way that we consider scaffolding as being intrinsic to the construction of a building. A necessary component to bring about the completion of the structure, though not a part of the structure itself.
I think part of this is that there may actually be a distinction between God, Jesus and the Holy spirit and the actual dead potential stuff of the Universe. God is the word at the beginning which brings the universe into being, but there is also the potential which he is transforming through the word. God and the potential are not the same in nature or in material, God being wholly immaterial and beyond the "stuff" of the universe. God is the sculptor, he is not the clay.
The clay comes with certain impurities which, when acted upon create necessary impurities which must be worked through in order to bring the vessel into a more perfect order and from this, we get the necessity of evil.
Fundamentally in this landscape, we were created as humans to observe creation as it unfolds. It is our very act of observation which re-ifies creation, so we can't fail in that task, no matter what choices we make, because it is the act of choice making that creates reality.
This also nicely collapses the "when did the universe begin problem" because it doesn't matter how old the stuff of the universe is, it matters when it began to be "real" which was when humans began to be able to take account of it.
Let me know what you think of this.
The Soul is not contained within the limits of the body. The body is contained within the limitlessness of the soul.
But we already know ChatGPT can be manipulated. Didn't you see Cosmic Skeptic's video on it?
With your dad up there that's the mount Rushmore of apologetics
👊
The "problem of evil" argument can only exist when you accept the existence of evil and good as something beyond opinion, i.e. defined by God, which depends on the existence of God.
So the problem of evil argument is either meaningless or contradicts itself.
imo, a more catchy title for the video would be sean McDowell vs. chat gpt
This is fun. I wonder what would happen if you tried to evangelize ChatGPT? Like for starters, ask it if it believes a God exists, what would it take to convince it that God does exist, etc. Like, try to engage it as you would a human you want to lead to belief.
it would be awesome if you asked chat gpt about scenes in the Bible like Psalm 82:1
who is God speaking to? who were being judged? and what was their penalty?
Cosmic Skeptic did a video on convincing ChatGPT that God exists. Would love to see your thoughts and analysis on that video.
Thank you 😊
Great video, the background music was a little too loud, or maybe a little too obnoxious? if you toned that down it'd be even better.
That is so funny, I have never found the existence of evil argument to be a good one. We have free will.
There is an uncensored version of Chatgpt called DAN, which, you should that about God.
I feel like you missed some opportunity with this video. Chat GPT isn't a prompt/response program. It is a language model so you can counter argue against it and debate with it.
Apparently ChatGPT believes in dualism, like most Christians. Unfortunately, they’re wrong. The Bible teaches that we are a soul; we don’t have a soul. Also, the Bible teaches that we are a body; we don’t have a body. You can thank pagan Greek thought for introducing the “hand inside the glove” dualism error into the church.
Love this
Alex O’Conner, an atheist, was able to get chatGPT to say that God does exist.
what about Arthur Burk ? for an interview ? Sapphire Leadership group, completely different perspective
I made a new discovery perplexity is bias will not discuss issue raise on irreverisal damage. Keep stopping me saying it's harmful.
Hard to argue with that list of top 5 apologists but did you ask it who the top five superheroes are?😊
Dang! How did I miss that?
I suspect the answer given may require more than a five minute response.....if Spiderman is at any point below first place.
The arguments for a god were general but the argument against was incoherence which is only a problem if you have a specific singular God who is both all powerful and all good.
That was fun! I usually try to bypass AI in real life , but it was interesting.
I was able to convince it God exists and admit Jesus is God
Great Video!
It's funny, when asked if Nebuchadnezzar is real, it said yes and gave the Bible as one of the references for him being real. But when using the Bible for God, it says it's all of a sudden a theological and metaphysical based claim, but not so when it speaks about Nebuchadnezzar II.
I don't see why evil is so hard to explain given that God is a relational being and the center of that being is love. If there is no choice in relationship then there is no true love. With choice comes the chance of rejection. Reject love and your left with hate. Reject truth and your left with a lie. Reject good and your left with evil.
@user-mt2yc3uk3y While some believe an agnostic atheist is possible, the two are in opposition to each other. As to evil, God does actually limit the extent of it. God still has a plan and purpose for His creation that will not be thwarted but, as man chose to walk on his own, He allows us to experience what that will look like. He has let us see our need for Him. Man's depravity will lead to unspeakable evil as we are beginning to see that grow in these last days. God has also provided a way out through His son Jesus. The fact is, while you live in opposition to Him, you will never be able to come to a saving knowledge of the truth. If you seek Him out with a whole heart He will make Himself known to you. Perhaps this conversation may be the start of that journey.
ChatGPT is actually biased based on the views of the original creators. It’s not truly unbiased.
How can we tell which answer ChatGPT are scripted in a fixed manner and which is generated?
To be a good christian apologist one would think first and foremost..KNOW YOUR BIBLE