@LadieKadie we already have socialism in America. Do you hate public roads, libraries, police, firefighters, schools from K-12? If you hate socialism go ahead a tear up your social security card otherwise you're Literally a card carrying socialist.
@@LadieKadie What do you think is going to replace capitalism when the US population starts to permanently decrease? Capitalism only works as long as there are more people keep buying, it was doomed from the start.
Uggh! Developers own the legislature in Tallahassee. There is already an excessive amount of property on the market. Farmers that supported all of those Republicans up there don't stand a chance.
@@markrichards6863 Just like all the companies that supported the democrats like automobile industry that both parties supported their outsourcing of parts. Not to mention all the tech outsourcing to China both parties supported for years. You still believe in your political cult. What a sheep😅
4th generation Florida boy. My first full time job was working at Hilliard groves in Ft. Pierce back in the 70's. Then Becker fruit co. We produced more citrus in Florida then the rest of the world combined. I drive around and can not believe my eyes. The groves are gone. No more groves stands with signs that say, "Orange Juice all you can drink, 25 cents".
You mean the worker know how to change the weather? They said it was because of the weather that wanted to start diversifying. The workers can fix that?
@boscodooley8561 they said that the weather and the citrus ripening disease was making it "not profitable". I wonder if the CEOs bonus wasn't big enough. Let the workers be in charge and see how fast profitable is re-achieved.
@@boscodooley8561 Not insider, this is publicly available online. The CEO of Alico Citrus has a salary of $525,000 and his total compensation last year was around $840,000 so he got a $300,000 bonus roughly.
Ever since the big freeze in the early 90's that destroyed a lot of Central FL citrus trees orange farming has been sliding. Then the Medfly, Canker and Greening sealed it. The hurricanes didn't help but when the groves are dead or dying and fools from Up North want to buy a new house that high, sandy grove ground is sacrificed. Clermont used to be miles of rolling groveland. Since the big 90's freeze it became a bedroom community to Orlando. Absolutely heartbreaking. FL citrus is going the way of the American Chestnut. Just a few here and there in backyards (if Greening doesn't get them too.)
I drove past an Orange Grove north of Orlando in a mustang convertible with the top down and have never smelled such a glorious fragrance in all of my life!
30 years ago the highways were littered with oranges from all of the overloaded trucks during picking seasons. Those trucks have mostly been replaced by trusses on roll-offs, and they're heading to where the groves used to be.
Well, they will build a big development, with lots of ticky ,tacky homes and another golf course, a wawa , some stores and ,you know like a little Villages.
Florida orange juice is about to have a tariff slapped on it by the Canadian government, just as they did during Trump 1. 41 million Canadians can buy it elsewhere. Tropicana will be too expensive.
The Canadians will suffer more from all the tariffs that will be stacked up on Canadian goods. Don’t be surprised if Canadians get banned from travel in this country.
Corperate eats EVERYTHING! Never sell to corperate and never take a dime from "investers." Tell the Leech Class (elite they call themselves) to go get a job instead.
Greening needs to be resolved ASAP!!! All the groves in Lake County are pretty much destroyed by that ecological disaster and then the land owners sell to developers.
Then hurricanes come in and destroy the homes and your insurance improper taxes go up. Instead of working on climate change, they just keep building more homes where they can't be safe from Hurricanes.
We get citrus from Belize and Brazil. Belize has had issues with greening as well. I remember when it was canker. We were ordered to cut our tangelo tree down (from the city) due to canker
At one time in the Deep Valley of Texas, it was all oranges, Indian River red grapefruit, limes, lemons, valley lemons, avocados and peaches. You are hard-pressed to find any of that now. Very sad.
I wonder about supply and demand. Has there been a drop-off in citrus sales? Apparently big business is uninterested in supply and demand anymore... it's all about investor profits and big corporate salaries. And where is the short-fall going to come from? China? Central America? It's yet another sign that profits are MUCH more important than... anything.
People just don't drink orange juice like they did pre 1990. It is too sugary and acidic. You can't change what the people want, but go ahead and blame a governor. It has been dying for 30 years. Why not blame "sugar pants" Charlie Crist?
@@5-SigmaI don't get sick and haven't drank OJ in many, many years. And I live in Florida. I don't care. Another overpriced fruit that people think is magical.
@Shivris Sorry, but oranges have been pushed for years and years as some kind of fruit that cures colds. Not avocados. PS. Im 65 and have never eaten an avocado.
That's really sad news. I think citrus growers are an important part of our food production, should be thrown a lifeline until the citrus greening disease can be eradicated or controlled. Once resistant trees can be created, it's still will take a few years for the trees to mature.
Let’s just be open and HONEST. Trump is coming into office and deporting the labor force. Many other agricultural companies will have to end their business as well. Raven
Remember stores thought the oranges wasn't pretty enough for their stores, farmers had to bulldoze their crop, cause of the freeze that happened... yes the oranges was still good. Wasted USA waste good food
Fewer corperate owned farms means my orchard will do better. Thank you for self deleting your corperate share of the market to satisfy the Leech Class and their endless greed
I hear you but when houses go up around you and idiots complain about farming noise, chemicals, and other activities the community will start complaining to/about you. It happened around Plant City above Knights Griffith Rd. It was farmland with the occassional house but more houses came and farmers started being harassed and squeezed out. Also between eastern Plant City and Polk County line. People living on rural properties being surrounded by subdivisions. Suddenly planting Strawberries was noisy and messy. A co-worker living in the area once told me the next door subdivision sent her a letter telling her to stop using her clothesline because it violated THEIR rules. They kept a few pigs and made sure they were housed close to the subdivision and it made the subdivision crazy. Their horses were harassed daily by poorly behaved kids from the subdivision. Legally they were protected because they were a farm and had been there first but the harassment never stopped. You will be harassed til you give up or Greening gets you.
@rayray8687 I have a very diverse orchard, and trying to include livestock, like cattle. But it's small. About 10 acres, but some of it is flooded in heavy rain, so it's grass.
@bwtawny If everyone sells to corperate developers, it will take time. During this time I will increase profits as people move here. If the suburbs surround my little orchard and begin to pester me, I will laugh, knowing they are trying to force me to sell to another land developer. However, it will be easy to snag a loan for developing the land myself, I would profit millions in a few years of shuffling paperwork. Bring it on! But until then, I'm living the orchard life and loving it. But I have no shareholders to satisfy.
Yeah…..that’s what we really need in Florida. More beautiful agricultural land bulldozed under for more houses, streets, horrendous traffic and water run off. Once it was beautiful to drive out from the cities into Florida countryside and see the Citrus trees and other agricultural products. The out of state AND out of country land grabbers have swooped in and thrown money at the farmers and soon there will not be any open countryside between cities……just one city bordering another. So sad for Florida. The greed runs prevalent here now.
Would have Trumps threats of mass deportations of cheap migrant labor. Had any impact? The weather is makes it challenging to grow citrus. Insurance in some areas is difficult. If you believe in climate change why would you invest there?
When your cash crop is no more viable in your current state move to California only other state citrus trees can grow outside of florida puerto Rico & Hawaii
"They're looking to create more profitable opportunities for their SHAREHOLDERS" this statement is and will be the downfall of America
Yea because communism and socialism work so well. Please, want socialism. Move to Canada.
@LadieKadie we already have socialism in America. Do you hate public roads, libraries, police, firefighters, schools from K-12? If you hate socialism go ahead a tear up your social security card otherwise you're Literally a card carrying socialist.
@@LadieKadie What do you think is going to replace capitalism when the US population starts to permanently decrease? Capitalism only works as long as there are more people keep buying, it was doomed from the start.
So you’re saying shareholders matter more than working people that run Florida
@@LadieKadieenjoy your bankruptcies from medical bills 😂
Just what Florida needs, more residential....dont we just love the word DEVELOPER
uh huh 😫
Uggh! Developers own the legislature in Tallahassee. There is already an excessive amount of property on the market. Farmers that supported all of those Republicans up there don't stand a chance.
@@markrichards6863 Just like all the companies that supported the democrats like automobile industry that both parties supported their outsourcing of parts. Not to mention all the tech outsourcing to China both parties supported for years. You still believe in your political cult. What a sheep😅
I hate to say this because I’ve always loved Florida growing up, but it’s going to complete sh*t at this rate.
You know its a complete sh@t show, when your Florida goverment wants to develop the state parks.
4th generation Florida boy. My first full time job was working at Hilliard groves in Ft. Pierce back in the 70's. Then Becker fruit co. We produced more citrus in Florida then the rest of the world combined. I drive around and can not believe my eyes. The groves are gone. No more groves stands with signs that say, "Orange Juice all you can drink, 25 cents".
Because an orange company is closing some of its groves? WTF are you talking about?
Have you visited California recently? I just did last Christmas break. From LA to SF for 2 weeks. There's alot more shi1 show there than here.
@@TH-yum It is also on fire.
Of course they’re going to develop the land for housing…big money and zero problems once you sell it.
For the shareholders? Corporate America doesn't need food. Humans do.
@@andrewlowther9819 exactly
Let them eat cake. 😁 🍰🎂🍰😁
The way of capitalism.
Those with the most capital (money) win.
Sell the business to the workers and be surprised at how fast they fix it.
You mean the worker know how to change the weather? They said it was because of the weather that wanted to start diversifying. The workers can fix that?
@boscodooley8561 they said that the weather and the citrus ripening disease was making it "not profitable". I wonder if the CEOs bonus wasn't big enough. Let the workers be in charge and see how fast profitable is re-achieved.
@@TheGiggleMasterP Oh so not only will the workers change the weather. They can fix plant disease? OK lol
@@TheGiggleMasterP Do you have insider information about the CEO bonus? Or are you just making things up?
@@boscodooley8561 Not insider, this is publicly available online. The CEO of Alico Citrus has a salary of $525,000 and his total compensation last year was around $840,000 so he got a $300,000 bonus roughly.
Ever since the big freeze in the early 90's that destroyed a lot of Central FL citrus trees orange farming has been sliding. Then the Medfly, Canker and Greening sealed it. The hurricanes didn't help but when the groves are dead or dying and fools from Up North want to buy a new house that high, sandy grove ground is sacrificed. Clermont used to be miles of rolling groveland. Since the big 90's freeze it became a bedroom community to Orlando. Absolutely heartbreaking. FL citrus is going the way of the American Chestnut. Just a few here and there in backyards (if Greening doesn't get them too.)
If you get an orange soon it'll be A miracle
I drove past an Orange Grove north of Orlando in a mustang convertible with the top down and have never smelled such a glorious fragrance in all of my life!
30 years ago the highways were littered with oranges from all of the overloaded trucks during picking seasons. Those trucks have mostly been replaced by trusses on roll-offs, and they're heading to where the groves used to be.
Sad sight......NC in the same sad demise
Growing citrus crops no longer viable?! Never thought I would ever hear that! World is really changing in a way that’s frightening.
They're looking at cash crops
They can't wait to develop the land . Florida in the 60's was beautiful . It's all about $
Sooooooooo...... In OTHER words.......The ceo ain't makin' his BILLIONS!!!!!!!
More like a farmer went out of business and now the groves will turn into track homes where you live.
Well, they will build a big development, with lots of ticky ,tacky homes and another golf course, a wawa , some stores and ,you know like a little Villages.
Sad to see all the orange groves slowly disappearing.
Florida orange juice is about to have a tariff slapped on it by the Canadian government, just as they did during Trump 1.
41 million Canadians can buy it elsewhere. Tropicana will be too expensive.
The Canadians will suffer more from all the tariffs that will be stacked up on Canadian goods. Don’t be surprised if Canadians get banned from travel in this country.
Corperate eats EVERYTHING! Never sell to corperate and never take a dime from "investers." Tell the Leech Class (elite they call themselves) to go get a job instead.
Greening needs to be resolved ASAP!!! All the groves in Lake County are pretty much destroyed by that ecological disaster and then the land owners sell to developers.
Then hurricanes come in and destroy the homes and your insurance improper taxes go up.
Instead of working on climate change, they just keep building more homes where they can't be safe from Hurricanes.
'squeezed out'😂
We get citrus from Belize and Brazil. Belize has had issues with greening as well. I remember when it was canker. We were ordered to cut our tangelo tree down (from the city) due to canker
Wow, more HOA residential communities in Haines City. What a joke.
Yes, the citrus farmers are relocating to south Central Georgia, which does not get direct hurricane strikes and has a more stable climate.
At one time in the Deep Valley of Texas, it was all oranges, Indian River red grapefruit, limes, lemons, valley lemons, avocados and peaches. You are hard-pressed to find any of that now. Very sad.
Of course …selling land to real estate developers has better financial outcome than farming …
Is this going to lower the price of OJ on January 20th?
Simply put we want cheap foreign labor and cheaper land
I wonder about supply and demand. Has there been a drop-off in citrus sales?
Apparently big business is uninterested in supply and demand anymore... it's all about investor profits and big corporate salaries.
And where is the short-fall going to come from? China? Central America? It's yet another sign that profits are MUCH more important than... anything.
After buying Florida's juice for years, I pray I still can.
Canker kulled the groves so Rick Scott builders can move in
Disgusting
Now my mimosas will be more expensive at brunch, oh well I must brunch.
It appears my Publix does not sell Florida Navels anymore. The sticker says Cali on it. It is sad
We're so lucky that lil ron desatan has chosen to ignore problems like this so they will just magically go away.
Too focused on banning books and fighting a mouse in Orlando 👀
People just don't drink orange juice like they did pre 1990. It is too sugary and acidic. You can't change what the people want, but go ahead and blame a governor. It has been dying for 30 years. Why not blame "sugar pants" Charlie Crist?
harris LOST 😂And TRUMP will be your new DADDY again.
@@5-SigmaI don't get sick and haven't drank OJ in many, many years. And I live in Florida. I don't care. Another overpriced fruit that people think is magical.
only person trump is going to be daddy too is the poorly educated supporters.
That’s one of the biggest problems with every company shareholders. It should be about your customers and employees that’s it.
It's nice to know the orange growers aren't complaining they need immigrants to work there fields.
This is not good at all and the your going into real estate with 3000 acres that’s sad
SOOOO not enough greed for the shareholders DISGUSTING !. Tax Corporations 100% !.
Gone with the wind.
Ehh, they taste like 💩 lately picking the oranges too early.
......and it starts
Cannabis is very profitable here in the US.
We don’t need orange growers. We just get our oranges from the grocery store. 😊
Maybe they could switch to growing a very nice outdoor weed😁
🌬💨💨
citrus likes weather like the mediterranian not swamps.
Worst orange crop since 1930s
They are thinking of a head of Mass Deportation 😂😂
code for "Desantis took away our cheap labor force"
Danm that’s a shame, I even took my girl out there for a date
Growing citrus is labor-intensive... Strawberries blueberries and other sorts of fruits and vegetables are less labor intensive...
If it grows out the dirt
It’s all labor intensive 😂 other wise all the pickers you see off I-4 wouldn’t be “brown”
Oranges are the most overrated fruit and over priced.
@@Musicman-y7v avocado is the most overrated fruit there is.
@Shivris Sorry, but oranges have been pushed for years and years as some kind of fruit that cures colds. Not avocados. PS. Im 65 and have never eaten an avocado.
@@Musicman-y7vIf you don’t want vitamin C, go ahead. The rest of us would like citrus to be saved!
That's really sad news. I think citrus growers are an important part of our food production, should be thrown a lifeline until the citrus greening disease can be eradicated or controlled. Once resistant trees can be created, it's still will take a few years for the trees to mature.
very baad mistake n scam on our locals
And it’s cheaper to get it out of Brazil than is to produce here in the United States
Then they'll need to use more of the agricultural land for more housing when that space runs out.
Chem trail's?
Grow apples then
Agriculture land should stay that way I heard her say 25% going to make more commercial and development whatever that means.
Planning to sell the lsnd for housing.
Yeah....
Keep voting Red.
I can't bring myself to vote Blue.
Both Partys are enemies of the working man. While we bicker, both partys line-their-pockets. Just saying...
harris LOST 😂
We will.
It has nothing to do with red or blue.. it's greedy companies selling to developers.. PERIOD
I blame state government policies.
Let’s just be open and HONEST. Trump is coming into office and deporting the labor force. Many other agricultural companies will have to end their business as well. Raven
😔💔🙏🏼
CONDOS 👏👏👏
Remember stores thought the oranges wasn't pretty enough for their stores, farmers had to bulldoze their crop, cause of the freeze that happened... yes the oranges was still good. Wasted USA waste good food
Florida is turning into California..
Don’t have to listen just read the title. More CHEAP housing around the corner. Two second builds aka remodelers dream developments here you go!
Fewer corperate owned farms means my orchard will do better. Thank you for self deleting your corperate share of the market to satisfy the Leech Class and their endless greed
Unless of course your orchard contracts greening disease and then it will gradually die off also, corporation or not.
I hear you but when houses go up around you and idiots complain about farming noise, chemicals, and other activities the community will start complaining to/about you. It happened around Plant City above Knights Griffith Rd. It was farmland with the occassional house but more houses came and farmers started being harassed and squeezed out. Also between eastern Plant City and Polk County line. People living on rural properties being surrounded by subdivisions. Suddenly planting Strawberries was noisy and messy. A co-worker living in the area once told me the next door subdivision sent her a letter telling her to stop using her clothesline because it violated THEIR rules. They kept a few pigs and made sure they were housed close to the subdivision and it made the subdivision crazy. Their horses were harassed daily by poorly behaved kids from the subdivision. Legally they were protected because they were a farm and had been there first but the harassment never stopped. You will be harassed til you give up or Greening gets you.
@rayray8687 I have a very diverse orchard, and trying to include livestock, like cattle. But it's small. About 10 acres, but some of it is flooded in heavy rain, so it's grass.
@rayray8687 I will not sell to a Corperation. Farmers markets, local grocery, FB are all coming up next summer, starting with blueberries
@bwtawny If everyone sells to corperate developers, it will take time. During this time I will increase profits as people move here. If the suburbs surround my little orchard and begin to pester me, I will laugh, knowing they are trying to force me to sell to another land developer. However, it will be easy to snag a loan for developing the land myself, I would profit millions in a few years of shuffling paperwork.
Bring it on!
But until then, I'm living the orchard life and loving it. But I have no shareholders to satisfy.
Nobody to work the fields
All greed. Build houses and stores that can be destroyed by storms and flooding.
Land is too valuable for oranges 🍊
Florida is a dying state, they just haven’t realized it yet.
so much for global warming
Not news. It's the inevitable.
Yeah…..that’s what we really need in Florida. More beautiful agricultural land bulldozed under for more houses, streets, horrendous traffic and water run off. Once it was beautiful to drive out from the cities into Florida countryside and see the Citrus trees and other agricultural products. The out of state AND out of country land grabbers have swooped in and thrown money at the farmers and soon there will not be any open countryside between cities……just one city bordering another. So sad for Florida. The greed runs prevalent here now.
Funny how here in America people actually have the right to do as they please with private land, even if it bothers people on their Sunday drives.
Lots of commies in these comments. I had no idea that commies were into growing oranges.
Says the fascist.
GETTING OUT BEFORE VP TRUMP TAKES OFFICE
Would have Trumps threats of mass deportations of cheap migrant labor.
Had any impact?
The weather is makes it challenging to grow citrus. Insurance in some areas is difficult.
If you believe in climate change why would you invest there?
Right! Here’s a plan. Stop producing food and make more buildings. Real estate is being destroyed in Florida so why not make some more?
Man cannot live on orange juice.
Preemptive move before MAGAitis disease hits.
More northerners moving down SMDH
LOL LOL nah....the little small minded fascist that is your governor is ruining the state every single day.
Better labor relations in Mexico
and trump economy will finish them.
Their citrus sucks anyway,only good thing grown in florida is strawberries,rest of their produce is mush🎉
Grow Pineapples!
When your cash crop is no more viable in your current state move to California only other state citrus trees can grow outside of florida puerto Rico & Hawaii
To build houses for usless people