Social Media and Photography Etiquette
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- In this video, we discuss photography etiquette and ways to improve the sharing experience on social media. Have you ever felt frustrated with comments on your photos? Are there any guidelines or rules that could make social media a more enjoyable platform for sharing images?
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You missed "Hey I edited your photo ".. For context I have posted a woodpecker photo in the past - one that I was really proud of because I find them difficult to spot and get a good angle on in order to make a pleasing composition. Someone took the image, and edited it. I was not impressed and recall saying that if they want an image that looks like that, they should put in the hours necessary to go out and take it in the first place.
Number 1: I don't mind people adding their own experience. That means they are engaged. I don't make money at this, none of my social media accounts are monetized. I want people who see my images or videos to get excited about nature. One of the themes of my photography is the beauty all around us. I encourage people to go out in their yards and local parks to see and experience the beauty of nature. I'm glad when someone gets excited and shares their experiences.
Number 2: I have a picture just like this - I usually say "how cool, please post it, I'd love to see it." Again, I find it better for people to be engaged and excited. I see it as a good thing.
Number 3: Don't critique others unless asked. 100% agree. No matter how great a photo of any given subject is, someone will always have one with better light, better pose, a more perfect specimen etc. Great for them and I'm happy someone captured the perfect image. I sincerely hope they make a lot of money for it. However, that does not reduce my excitement of capturing the image I captured.
Number 4: Where was that taken? I agree. I typically say something like "North East Ohio" or "South East Tennessee" maybe as specific as "Yellowstone" or "Smoky Mountains". I won't give exact location. First, I capture wild creatures and just because it was at a specific location the day I captured the image, it may be miles away the next day. I tend to have a little grace in that some folks really don't know it's a bad question to ask. (kind of like "what camera did you use it takes great photos". I simply say thank you and tell them what camera equipment I was using).
good video. I'm not trying to be critical here. I'm just saying, there are multiple perspectives on these topics and everything is a matter of degree. There is a difference between a person being a troll or a jerk and a person engaging and not really knowing what to say or how to say it.
I try not to come off with themes of absolutes, more of.... this is my opinion and experience whats yours?
@@WildlifeInspired exactly, I was adding my perspective and opinion since you asked in your video for us to share what we thought about these topics. I agreed completely with you on 2 of the 4 and had a different perspective on the other 2. Wonderful thing about life is we can all have our opinions and still respect each other as human beings.
I agree with you a 100%, especially on 1 and 2. To engage people about nature is why I share pictures. 😊
Spot on.
Also, don't be the guy who comments pretty much the same thing on every single post. It's basically spam.
Great video. I would add, Don’t be the person who floods a group with post after post after post like they are trying to make the group their own private website. This type of person also almost never interacts with the group or other members in any way other than the flood of posts/images.
good one
This has been an interesting series on the etiquette of wildlife photography. Thanks for starting and inviting the conversation, Scott.
I'll suggest this for consideration as a "Do". I like to include some basic information (camera, lens, focal length, f-stop, shutter speed, ISO) about the gear and settings used to make the photos I share on social. It's information that may help a novice in their growth.
On the subject of criticism, I'm with you in not offering a critique unless invited by the photographer. When I am asked to offer a critique, I follow the model I learned during a 35 year career in broadcast TV and professional video production. A good critique focuses on the work; not the person who did the work.
First, I call attention to the strengths of the work. These are qualities that can be built on. Then I suggest areas where the image in question could possibly have been stronger.
A good critique should be constructive. Criticism is meaningless in the absence of context that sets a foundation for the observation. If a rational case can be made for why photos having some quality, X, are generally better regarded, the photographer will tend to be more open to the feedback. If that feedback is focused on making the work better (as opposed to a critique of the person), that will also help the photographer be more receptive.
Criticism can be an incredibly empowering experience, it's done well.
Thanks for sharing
I always get a chuckle when someone doesn't comment on the image but just posts "Where?"
I don't mind what people say as long as it's factual, valid and said politely. No arrogance or narcissistic comments will be tolerated. 😊
I have become very critical of people posting A.I. images on photography pages or within photography groups. I am a more of a purest and hate that these A.I. images that keep popping up and what is more aggravating, many people can’t seem to tell the difference between fake and real images. I normally call out moderators and administers for allowing those post within the groups.
Agree
I dabble with AI images, but would never post them in groups or try to pass them off as my own. Having taken plenty of wildlife photos and comparing them to AI it's easy for me to spot AI. There have been a few people who have posted on wildlife groups that I'm 99 percent certain it's AI as the images are too perfect and flawless in the camera settings (depth of field being the key one) which they almost never seem to post, but I don't call them out or to the administrators as there's a slight chance that I'm wrong.
I've never even tried A.I., but had someone comment on one of my hummingbird images: "A.I., A.I. go away SCAMMER!"
I was like whaaat? I guess I should be flattered...?
I agree 100%. If you cannot say anything good say nothing.
Great video Scott, agree on all accounts. My two pet peeves would be people critiquing other people's work without them asking, like who are you to critique them? The second would be when someone posts an image of the same subject in your post, like ok cool, but this isn't about you or your work. 😂
Not everyone has the same level of boundaries in their lives, so I really needed to hear this advice. Thank you!
I might add one to the first don't, and that's don't post your own photo down in the comments of somebody's post. I have someone, who is actually a friend that I know in person, who does this often. I haven't yet figured out a nice way of telling him not to, so I continue to tolerate it, but it bugs me. Other people do the same from time to time.
I delete any photos posted in the comments on my own page.
All Great points! Thanks for messaging my brain in a positive way.
I commented on a certain high end camera and got the response, “You can’t justify buying this camera so don’t try”. I had a lot of come backs but opted to ignore. Can’t out- hate haters.
Basically, few, if any, of us can honestly justify a high end camera. What I see as an essential truth is “I want it” is really all the justification I, or anyone else, really needs for buying a new camera.
I can understand people asking for location, if it is something they really want to photograph. My attitude is I enjoyed seeing myself and don’t want to deny someone else that opportunity. For criticising without being asked, that happens in all areas. As well as a photographer I’m also a musician and have posted demonstrations of musical instruments, only for people to criticise my playing when the whole point was demonstrating the instrument, not my skills as a musician.
100% agree. Especially the location question without any interest or appreciation of the posted image!
Thanks for this video. I am relatively new to the social media aspect of photography and recently experienced all four of your points.
I have been a hobby photographer for over 25 years and recently decided to post some of my wildlife images on a local Facebook channel. What I was not expecting was that my post would blow up with over 13K views and 400 comments and a thousand shares.
The very first comment was "Where is this??????Please???". From there 99% of comments were " WOW, Thanks for Sharing, Awesome, etc.". But there were many wanting location of this Great Blue Heron rookery or comments on the rookery in there areas, even photos of there Great Blue Herons.
I responded to many with thanks and went to the point of posting a general thank you for all the great compliments.
I did give a general city location but was not comfortable with exact location details. First the hike into this rookery is not for the faint hearted. I would feel terrible if on the evening news a story was about a hiker looking for Great Blue Herons got lost and needed to be rescued. Second, not sure if most people know how difficult it is to get near the herons in the wild, they hear you long before you seen them. In my case 200' is as close as I could get and I would have to sit in the bushes for 2-3 hours before they would go about their normal routine.
I do like sharing my photos with others for their enjoyment knowing that many viewer do not have the ability to trek through the woods as I do but some of the comments have me questioning if I want to continue posting.
Thanks again for the video and your perspective.
This is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE! I see it all the time and not only from beginners but from photographers who should know better! You gotta love the haters too!
Great show Scott, I would agree with all of the Don’ts! I think we should remain polite on social media but more importantly be supportive. If someone goes to the effort of posting something that they are proud of and are willing to expose their images to possible negativity, I will try to say something supportive and positive about the image. The damage that mean and uncalled for comments can do is really sad. Give the person a thumbs up, after all what does it cost you to be kind. The don’t I really hate, is when I post an image that I’ve slaved over and sweated about posting, gets comments with photos of the same bird or behavior as well. I will be polite and give it a thumbs up….but I’m thinking, do your own post of this!!!
About the last one, I believe if you ask politely and left it to the photographer discretion to answer, then I can't see the fault... I'm 100% with you to the rest of the "list"...
My favorite is "what camera you used?" comment, note: Not glass but the camera. Like no interest in the subject, composition or the artist's skills/years of experience but straight forward asking about them about their camera! Like just by getting that device in hand they can basically get that shot as well😅
I have zero problem with people asking what gear you shoot with. Most people are just curious
I will sometimes ask what focal length, sensor size, and amount of cropping was done, to understand how they achieved the look that they got, or to learn approximately what distance they were able to get to the subject. This info can be invaluable. In fact, learning these facts about many of the snake and salamander photos I admired led me to learn that I would NEVER be able to take such photos with my gear, and that to ever get such photos I would have to acquire a very different, specialized lens, much unlike any lenses I had at the time.
I'm not fond of being asked which camera or lens I used, mainly because I suspect people think that's the secret to capturing great photographs. I've seen exceptional photographers produce stunning images with equipment that isn't considered the latest or "greatest." It's not the camera, but the person behind the camera. If you're looking to improve your photography skills, consider watching instructional videos or taking college courses on the subject. However, the most effective method is to actively take lots of pictures. Practical experience is truly the best teacher in learning photography.
Obviously they liked the style thinking the camera itself an produce the final image. Of course somebody that is not familiar will ask about the camera than "oh, you have amazing vision" 🤷♂️
@@Jessehermansonphotography Exactly. Also, people who are not photographers really have no idea. I always take it as a compliment and tell them what gear I used and thank them for looking at my photos and encourage them to go out with whatever they have and capture the beauty of nature around their own homes.
Regarding criticism, I agree. Although there are contexts where requests for criticism are implicit, like in certain photography groups. Then I think constructive criticism is fine even when not explicitly stated in the post. I am guilty of having asked for locations - out of genuine interest - but usually not without acknowledging the post. In case of rare animals, location information certainly needs to be considered carefully, but the question doesn't necessary imply any ill intent. And often a general area can be named while still keeping the precise location protected.
Many people have no filters when on social media. I usually ignore them unless they get mean or rude. In the past, I would blast them but now I just block them. Rule #3, Unwanted advice is rarely accepted. I do not give any feedback or advice unless they ask. I learned that lesson long ago from an old timer, not I am an old timer.
Nailed it, again. :) I remember one time I posted a Reel showing the back of my camera. Nothing about asking for critique. I had a jerk commenter saying, "Your viewfinder is dirty." Like, what!? First of all, who asked you!? Second, if you're not gonna comment on the content of the Reel, just scroll on. Third, of course it's dirty - it's out in the field all day, of course it's gonna collect dust and whatnot. But you're right, maybe just a hater because that Reel had over a quarter million views.
I'd like to add one. Nothing major, but when someone shares your photo or mentions you in a post/story/Reel, a nice thing to do is to re-share. 😉It is a "social" platform after all. It's good to engage back with people who take the time to interact with you.
Agree with all your thoughts,spot on.👍
Where I have found myself commenting lately, and I would be interested to know if you think it is inappropriate, is when someone has posted a clearly AI generated image as if it is their photo. When there are comments like, “Wow, stunning!“, “Spectacular“, and “Amazing photo”, I feel like there is value in helping people realize that AI generated images are showing up more and more and giving tips on how to recognize a fake (e.g., extra toes or limbs). I might say something like, “that is a really cool AI image, though the extra toes give it away.”
If you call out someone passing off something as real I think you are 100 good. It's more like educating the other commenters. Ya. No problems with that
I really enjoy your site. Keep up the great work
I agree for the most part, with what you say, a few things I myself comment on very few images I will like or love someone's image, but words can be taken different ways and what I felt to be a complement, someone else might not. That does not apply to anyone that posts and asks for advice or help, I try and give the best advice I can and hope that it helps. As far as asking for locations sort of agree but asking for general locations I do not feel is bad. For example, if someone asked where a photo of mine was taken, I would usually reply with in Eastern North Carolina. I have asked like that about some bird images I saw and found out they were from different places around the world. But before I ask I will compliant them on the image as truthy as I can.
I certainly agree with your list, as well as the two or three additions that others suggested in the comments. Though I can imagine myself asking about location in a slightly different maybe more respectful way, such as, “What a great image of a bird I have never seen in the wild! Are you willing to share the location?“
That!
Another great quick video! I do not post much because I just don’t feel the need! I always post with positive comments and NEVER any negative… If do not like the photo I simply don’t say anything! I hate it when someone feel the need to post one of their photo in a post either better or worst! Let the original post have his 2 seconds of glory! Location request, never even reply to those.
These feedback points are very timely as I'm seeing etiquette sliding on social media on the regular. These points seem applicable to a lot more than just photography (which is good).
The "Interject only 'you'" or "Compare" is so common that even when we write a focused, heartfelt, positive comment, many photographers think it's spam/critique. There was a short video that brought back memories of my family and really struck me as beautiful. I commented as much. At first, the photographer/videographer reported the comment. It was only after a couple days they re-read what I had said and replied saying, "at first I thought this was spam... but this is probably the best compliment I have ever received" (paraphrased).
So hard to converse in the public domain. It was never easy, but your guidelines should help a lot of people.
I love your videos! Especially these ones that make you think. Oh and the funny characters too. Oh and the how to’s. Oh ok I just like them all! Lol😂
I completely agree with 3&4.
I have slight issues with 1&2. Maybe my etiquette needs some refreshing though! Lol😂
I agree you should always start off with praise and what you like about the photo and not just talk about yourself. Especially if it’s a really good thoughtful comment. Maybe you can even call out some cool technique or something special that really jumps out at you. Then here’s where it gets murky for me. I know it’s social media but I want a more personal and human experience from commenters. I want to hear a little story about their wildlife encounters. Maybe we end up having a 4 or 5 comment back and forth about it. We feel good about communicating. I’d prefer to try and build community and personal experiences and relationships instead of likes. So I as well want to tell other photographers a funny or cool experience I’ve had. I actually kinda get bored with just likes, high fives and hearts. It kinda seems fake and honestly a little unnecessary to me. 🤷🏼 just my 2 cents!
Thanks for all the effort and skill and knowledge you share and put into this. I really do appreciate it. ✌🏻
thanks for kind words
I made the mistake once of editing a photo posted to color correct and a few minor touch ups. I told them great photo heres an edit i did that i felt enhances it even more. The guy flipped out on me in a comment then deleted the whole post all together. Lesson learned. 😅 Also I a agree you should comment about rhe photo and what you like before asking for a location minimum. I feel its gatekeeping tho to hold locations from someone. Fishing I understand why. Clearly you got the information or stumbled upon the location from someone or somewhere. Why do you get to photograph it and decide who can after? I understand not all photographers are ethical and some downright cruel. I guess use judgement before releasing the info.
I may be guilty of the first one. I think I've even done that in the past on one of your posts. LOL Sometimes a photo someone posts brings me back to a memorable time. I don't mind people telling me their stories that they may have because of my photo. It has a way of striking up a conversation. I like that about "social" media.
I suppose unexpected criticism is a negative thing, but I feel it's ok to sometimes give people 'constructive feedback'. I sometimes get feedback myself either good or bad and I appreciate it, there is a difference between being helpful or being a hater.
I don't like when people ask me for locations, I can't be too hypothetical because I have personally messaged a few people and tested my luck with locations but I always made them aware that it's completely fine if you don't want to share.
Yes; all of this!
Plus…the ones that actually post THEIR version of the photo in the comnents! 😡
All of these are why I'm not on social media any longer.
I'm guilty of asking about the location. I was new on Instagram. Someone posted a rare bird and though I did say nice about the photo but still I asked for the location. Iwas replied via pm about the location coz they dont want to reveal to the public where it is. I did not get it at first but few weeks later it dawned on me it was not cool of me to ask it. Now I just ebird it. It was really nice of that person to tell me where it is and was not being rude to me. Lesson learned 😅
I once had someone steal a copy of my posted photo - make edits to it (and ruin it) and re-post it back in the comments, saying that they "fixed" it for me.
oh sweet moses.... that's the worst case etiquette violation!
I definitely agree with your video. I have such a small following on social media that most of this would not apply to me. Comments come from people I know or have some connection to. Someone like you with a significant presence on social media has to endure people with no talent or expertise just trying to be a jerk and make inappropriate comments. I think if I had one addition to the do not's is Don't expect people you follow on social media to follow you. I get that people want to increase their following but don't act like its a quid pro quo. I recently started using tags on my Instagram and noticed I was getting a few join requests. Some I could tell where 'marketing' themselves and just ignore those, but others where people with similar sized followings and when I didn't follow them they dropped my page within a week.
Good point
That's absolutely on point. I follow people who I would love to follow me, but they should do so if they like my photos, not because the feel obligated to reciprocate. One of my pet peeves are these instagram posts: "like this and I will like one reel back. Comment and I will like three of your reels."
Anytime I’ve ever had criticism it’s almost always been from someone who is older and who thinks I edited too much without even knowing what the raw feels like. Just that absolute purist “raw is better, I’ve been shooting since the days of film” mindset.
Also the locations….. I’ve blocked people like that so many times. I don’t mind people I know asking… but it’s the people who never like your photos, never comment… suddenly they’re in your DMs praising you and asking for location. The worst!!
But youngsters do overedit the photos and videos these days and I'm 34 if that makes me old or not, lol. However DXO, Topaz and all that shit is actually being promoted 100% by the older photpgraphers... It's not about age. 🤷♂️
Hey, I made a video just like this! 🙂
Can't be !
100% concur.
I've seen unwarranted criticism more on content I watch than on my own stuff (which is low reach and hobby only photos). Unfortunately I have to say, often on content by younger women, and often by male commenters.
Scott, all agreed but in the times of "algorithm" every single comment/reaction is well accepted cus social medias are in a shitty place... So I'm mature enough to know that not everybody likes my craft and that's okay. If they say "this is shit" it's all okay as I will reply with the emoji shit under that comment 😄
lol good emoji strategy
Great video, Scott. I agree with what you said completely. Here are some other thoughts. What about asking to share the post. My philosophy is that anyone can share my images as long as I'm giving credit for the image. BTW, I'd like to share this (your) video to my FB timeline - do I have to ask?
Also, you've dealt with people commenting on the photographer's post. What about the person who posts the image? Disclosure of compositing? AI? Captive animals? For my posts, I feel no need to mention dodging, burning, blurring, removing distractions but anything like captive animals, compositing or AI, I'll put a statement such as "Full Disclosure: Captive animal" IMHO, whatever the others post is their business as long as it follows the group (or contest) rules and the poster is honest. (remind me to tell you the story about my Nature's Best Lantern Fly, if we cross paths when out-and-about).
Yes Jerry! Feel free to share any of my videos
I don't necessarily agree with the 3rd point. I never explicitly ask for criticism when I share a photo. However, we've all gone overboard with editing before, or using AI software to bring back some details, but ends up looking like a trainwreck. I don't always pick up these mistakes, but I would certainly appreciate it if someone spoke out about it. Like, hey, the eyes on the owl look a little too bright. Or, there's a very artificial bright halo around my subject from poor masking. The feather details got butchered by AI correction. If my editing work had glaring issues like this, I would certainly appreciate it if someone pointed it out to me.
What I don't like is the sheep herd mentality where everyone just copies what other people say and post disingenuous positive comments, simply because it's the "social protocol". This kind of mentality can easily lead someone to think they are posting great photos, even when there are glaring issues with their post processing. Then you'd end up with a giant elephant in the room that everyone else sees, except the poster of the photo, who thinks there's absolutely nothing wrong with their photo. Is this faux supportive environment something that we really want to advocate?
I think the problem is that the only people who explicitly ask for criticism are those who already feel something off about their photo, but aren't able to articulate the issue. If we only critique those who ask, then you will miss an entire audience who would otherwise appreciate criticism, but they haven't asked for it because they can't even see that there is something wrong with their photo. Now I know what you may be thinking - they don't see anything wrong with their photo, so they are happy with it, so they wouldn't want to hear criticism. That's a very common response to this sort of reasoning. But if you think about it, that's not true at all. We've all taken photos and edited them in our early days, thinking they were flawless pieces of work. When we mature in our craft, often times, we'd find those old photos and edits to be embarrassing. Like, wow, I used to think *this* was good?? I'm sure all experienced photographers are familiar with this scenario. So, whether the creator finds their work to be good or not is completely dependent on where they're at in the hobby. Just because they are happy with the work now, doesn't mean the better version of them in the future would be happy with it. And if we suppress development and improvement via faux compliments and offering constructive feedback *only* when asked for, then are we really doing our peers a favour?
Good points. Hard to discuss in video sometimes but I think the faux positives are a real phenomenon. I've seen people accept praise and start to believe their work is amazing. We may disagree on the critique part but would be a fun discussion over beer. Lol
@@WildlifeInspired haha, would definitely be a great discussion over beer. I don't know if there's necessarily a "correct" answer to this. Reality is, there are people who would appreciate the criticism, and those who wouldn't - but we wouldn't know which side of the fence they're on. For the reason I explained, I don't think we should judge this solely on whether they've asked for criticism, since a lot of people would otherwise appreciate that criticism, but haven't asked for it.
I think a similar analogy is that of the stinky or smelly person. Imagine there's someone with strong, foul smelling body odour. Throughout his life, no one has ever told him that he smells bad, because they don't want to sound rude. I think this analogy illustrates the same two sides of the argument. On the one hand, you have people who think it's rude or socially unacceptable to tell someone they smell bad. On the other hand, you have people who believe that we're doing that person a disservice by not letting them know. What I know for certain is, if that person grew up without anyone ever telling them that they have bad BO, when a person does finally come along to let them know, then that person is much less likely to believe that they're being told the truth. They may think that the person is just someone with a one-off opinion about their body odour, since he's never heard of that complaint before in his life.
I think the same is with photos. Someone getting constant faux praise for photos that have glaring editing issues would be much less accepting of constructive criticism, and much more likely to feel offended when they finally hear from someone willing to speak up about some of those issues.
I dunno man, comments on Social Media are like the weather. Can’t control them. When these things rise to the level that ticks me off, I tell the person off. But your way, of just pushing “don’t” rather than talking about the pragmatic benefits (everybody does better) of more restrained discussion….
People just stop commenting altogether. Engagement is super low across all social media and maybe it’s because it feels like navigating a maze of social rules.
I post a picture of a seal i get comments boots, mittens, flipper pie.
Another solid video, Scott. Everything you post here is "must watch" content for me. Thanks!
At 7:46, you ask, "What did I miss?" For me, what you missed is one of the most important social media rules of etiquette ..... and that is to be sure that you always reply to every comment and answer every question. Sadly, those who gain a lot of followers are the ones who eventually develop the attitude that they are too big or too important to actually respond to each comment or answer every question. When someone has taken the time and effort to write a comment or to ask a question, failure to reply conveys an attitude of "I am too important to respond to you". Even worse is when someone has 100 replies to a post and they are all ignored except for the ones made by people with blue check marks, or massive followings. That conveys the attitude of, "I'll only respond to you if you are as important as I am." All social media is supposed to be interactive. If someone does not reply to comments, they are taking the "social" part out of social media, and only using the platform for their own selfish gain.
I'll say on here I'll read every comment and reply to many (1/2). On IG I can't comment on each comment. It just becomes a full time job of being on my phone. I read every comment and acknowledge them all with a "like" so people know it's read. But the replying can be overwhelming TBH.
@@WildlifeInspired it definitely becomes a full time job. At certain scales, even "liking" everything is too much work. I deal with community managers in the day job and their lives are filled with an endless "like + reply" and even when they're directly paid to do it, they can't keep up. Social media is a void of infinite attention grabs.
I feel for Tom on this though. It's hard not to feel snubbed when you're actively engaging with creators (and the engagement is what promotes their livelihood/business). Being on the other side of things though, I also feel a lot of empathy for larger creators/organizations who have inbox/notification explosions to deal with on the regular.
Empathy for folks on both sides is likely the answer here and to always remember... "it's just social media folks, don't take it too seriously!" 🤣
That's an absolutely crazy level of entitlement. People who go out, create videos and photos, work on them and share them to enjoy owe you absolutely nothing, because you took three seconds for a comment.
@@WildlifeInspired you bring up a good point about giving a "like" to each comment. To me, that shows acknowledgement and appreciation for the comment and is definitely a form of interaction.
@@rainerfrey well, I feel like I owe a reply or at least a "like" to anyone who comments on my photos ... that is why I made the comment that I made above ... I feel as though that is the least I can do to show appreciation for those who have taken the time to comment on my images. I feel that it would be bad etiquette for me to essentially ignore a comment that someone made on one of my posts. I know it has probably happened, because I am far from perfect, but I do not let it happen intentionally and honestly try to reply in some way to anyone who has commented on my posts.
@1:06 Etqueete.
Sorry Scott, but I disagree on the last point. Most people asking for locations are simply curious. Chances are, there won’t be many of a particular photographer’s followers in proximity to a location where they may have captured something beautiful relative to the number of photographers at large that could actually invade a location that is being called out. Most photographers are simply curious or maybe just want to know for their own edification. Not sharing a location, most times, just sounds elitist to me.
Certainly your opinion. I don't think there is anything elitist about keep a private location private.
The main reason I use Facebook is to try to find out what's going on with Wildlife in places I might be interested in going. If you feel the need to keep it a secret don't post it
Is it possible that people don't post for your personal gain. Maybe they post to share the images not the locations.
I don't mind the "Don'ts" for #1 and #2 because sometimes that starts a friendly conversation in the comments (eg, "I get these birds in my yard all the time!" "Me too!") and I think that's fun. But I can see why that's a "don't" for some because it's not addressing the photo, but rather the bird in general.
About getting criticism when it's not asked for - that really steams my peas, especially when it's someone who is just starting out or just excited about seeing a certain bird. "I wouldn't have posted that photo" - okay congrats, you didn't and now you've outed yourself as an asshat.
added to phrases I never heard (steam my peas lol)
when you post be prepared for feedback
Well firstly what a great video, comparable to keeping a dog on a leed in a Nature Reserve, It shouldn't be necessary but it has🤔 to be said.
As a content creator for wildlife / photography, I suppose it is the over critical critique of any of my videos. Picking one up on the slightest error made, akin to being marked by a Teacher. The thought that one person is going to turn out a BBC/CNN like documentary, as if you had a full production team. After all it is what it is !
Not criticising this video of course. But the fact that most videos made in the Studio tend to do better (get more views) than those in the field .
It may also surprise some, people often unsubscribe from a channel. If you haven't posted for a while or they don't like one particular video. Not seeing the channel as a whole. I think this is poor etiquette after all the effort someone has gone into making a Wildlife/ photography video .
I can't remember the last time I Unsubscribed from a Wildlife channel they have ALL taken considerable time and effort to make.
Keep up the great work Scott
Thanks so much. And I get the video critique. Someone just left a rude comment about my the sound I made when I talk. Never heard that before but it was juvenile. Most of us do this by ourselves. Content. Recording. Editing. It's nice to hear positive messges and some negative is expected. But nit picking. Ugh.
Great video, I agree with it all. I’m not sure why some people like to put the high quality gear they used to capture the photo in wild life groups. Seems like they are showing off
Question: Is social media a comfort zone or a learning environment? Pick one…
Social media exists as a non-critical comfort zone because people have this need to think they’re smart or talented. It’s an egalitarian society where everybody is above average. I could post the worst images and get nothing but positive feedback because that’s all that’s allowed.
A learning environment must be critical. It. Goes against human nature to be critical of your own actions - I’m going to blame the internet on much of that, everybody has Google, everybody knows everything… If your desire to improve a skill is greater than your need to feel smart or talented, you need critical feedback.
The problem with this choice is an almost comical hybrid of the two scenarios. People are critical of others without being critical of themselves. I constantly ask myself what makes me qualified for whatever it is that I’m doing (note in my avatar I’m wearing a shirt that says “idiot”). Most people never question the value of their own opinions. Part of participating in a learning environment on the internet is understanding that most of the advice comes from an idiot (in this case me).
That's pretty interesting perspective. Way to much for a reply. This is a conversation to have when waiting for smoked food to prepare with some cold adult beverages.
@@WildlifeInspired your reply illustrates yet another problem with social media - it’s not social. It’s a bunch of individuals posting things to get likes to boost their ego, or putting other people down, also to boost their ego. Getting an honest, thought out response from someone is almost impossible these days. It seems odd that on this information super highway almost all communication has stopped.
If you have a smoker, I have a nice single malt and a few glasses…
Aren’t you the same guy always complaining about your reach not growing? You should take every comment you can get.
Always complaining around my reach? I am more frustrated by changes in social media as it evolves from photo sharing to video content creation.