I was glad to see you on as well. I speculated some at the beginning of the video on whet you might cover and only noted a few gaps, likely more for brevity :) Nine inches of dry leaves if not more are recommended for cold weather camping with just a blanket and tarp. Without the moisture barrier you need more insulation from the damp. Also, beware of wet trees. Leaning up against a wet tree is probably worse than flat ground as it is harder to build up a thick enough insulative layer and the tree will keep directing more moisture to you. Litter/leaves and tarp cover is likely best for light rains. Hammocks can be set under a tarp as well, but in rain some water may follow the ropes down so creating drip points may be useful
And, it was really interesting to watch! The 'stick for a pillow' joke aside, I thought I knew a bit about sleeping rough with historical/adventuring gear but you definitely had a few new approaches that I hadn't through of before - going to have to try them out on my next camp!
Loved your part in this! On the speed exit element of hammocks, one can have the feet anchored closer to the ground. While or offsets aunt if the benefit, it may be worth looking into.
Remember that cloaks and staves are also essential hot-weather gear. You're going to get real friendly with that tiny bit of shade at noon in the desert.
For most of my life, I never wore hats, which was a huge mistake on my part. Heat and humidity are nothing compared to the way direct UV rays heat you up.
@@frost8077 Weirdly enough wearing a thin white long-sleeved shirt to keep the direct sunlight off of your skin is good for sun protection, plus the fabric getting soaked with sweat cools you down more than you might expect. Also see if you can put a bandana of some kind under your hat to protect your ears and the back of your neck.
Bringing Kramer on for something like this was a fantastic choice. He's done medieval camping stuff in cold snowy weather to figure out what works and what doesn't. Also the hammock and tarp trap was a clever idea. Just gonna jot that one down, thanks, Kramer.
Especially if you silently lay some rope under it. They'll fall into a burrito and you can simply tie them up to make sure they don't don't get out anytime soon.
Kramer is genuinely one of the best TH-camrs in this community. He's done work with other channels, like skill tree, and he definitely brings his a-game every time. Can't wait to see more content from both Shad and Kramer.
I've been subscribed to both Kramer and Skill Tree for almost as long as I've been attending Shadiversity, and fully agree. This is a sign of things to come for the community.
One of Kramer's strengths is that he's a great speaker. He always speaks clearly, but still not that slowly, and he has a way to project his enthusiasm in an informative way. Within this community, the only one I'd say is clearly a better speaker is Lindybeige, who's absolutely excellent, and can make any topic seem interesting.
I actually use this method when I go camping. The polish military issued a unique type of rain cape to their soldiers in the seventies which could be turned into a tent, and it's what I use, and yes I have slept through rainstorms without even realizing despite the large opening.
The British Army relied on a hooded poncho during the cold war, with eyelets to use it as a shelter-sheet. You could put it on over your webbing or a bergen (rucksack), then it kept everything dry including your weapon, and nothing impeded your access to your ammunition pouches.
I have a pair of these, 2 of them make a tent that can sleep 3 if you don't mind sleeping in close quarters. A tip I got was to use a tripod or tie it up instead of the original center pole.
Lots of surplus rain ponchos/cloaks are designed to double as a small shelter. The US military surplus rain ponchos, the Soviet military plash palatka, and many more. It makes sense when you think about it. A rain poncho is already basically a large piece of water resistant material. Why not make it multifunctional?
Hi from Poland, I can confirm, those rain cloaks - called pałatka - are pretty neat and could be bought for cheap from military surplus at times. As for the hammock - be weary! The fact that you are off the ground does not mean you will not loose the heat below. Because you lay on top of whatever materials you have and your bodyweight will squeeze them there is little air trapped inbetween the layers to form an insulation. Admittedly I use modern Lesovik hammocks for my forest sleepovers (all material, here with the fishnet structure I imagine the clothes don't get as squished) however I would be careful and pack something to add insulation on the bottom. Nowadays you can add a sleeping mat on top of the hammock, but you can also use an underquilt. The way that works is it traps air between the underquilt and the hammock and that is your insulation layer. To have the same effect cheaper some simply use a second, old sleeping bag that they zip over themselves or attach below the hammock and I suspect you could do the same with a travellers cloak - just make sure you have a way to clasp it sensibly to avoid cold air getting in or loosing the warmed up insulation air that your body has already heated up.
Same, certain lady made me a certain version of medieval/early mod hunting cloak of Holy Roman Empire regions called Wetterfleck - still in use in some parts of Ger/Aus/Cze/Slo/Hun regions of Central Europe it is so usefull that now I have 2 weight version made by her. One thick 700+ g/m2 for -10°C moving/-5°C standing while having cotton undershirt + light polycotton shirt and merino sleeveless vest underneath ... And one lighter ... Both absolutely comfy in both rain, wind and snow/frost Both can be upgraded easily by switching baselayer to merino and adding smock right under the cloak and it can also cover whole scoped hunting rifle and small backpack ... I am happy with its performance in urban setting and in field and forest too.
@@MrDukeSilverr you should watch Fandabidozi's video on the Great kilt. He does amazing Scottish history, and the great kilt is the historical version of this video. He even does a trip in the Scottish Highlands with his great kilt instead of a tent.
I love the cloak tent. Eastern European armies to this day use a Lavvu system where two solders buddy up and share their ponchos and overlap them to create a full tent. I like the idea of two medieval adventures sharing their cloaks to create a tent maybe it's only big enough for one to sleep whilst the other stood look out and tending the fire etc.
A nice thing with the cloak tent set up is that it wastes less heat from the fire. Even aside from trapping it in, it reflects some of the heat onto you that would otherwise be lost to the environment Also we should bring cloaks back into fashion
I really wish cloaks would come back in fashion. I think the reason they likely won't has little to do with people thinking they look dorky, but just incompatibility with the modern environments we spend our time in. It's similar to wide brimmed hats in that they aren't particularly enjoyable to wear inside. Getting in a car? now you have wadded material beneath you (same thing with dusters, trenchcoats etc, hence why the car coat became a thing). work in an office? you got up to go to the water cooler and majestically swished Keith's report off his desk with your dope cloak. I do think that like wide brim hats, cloaks still have a place in outdoor recreation. I fairly frequently bring my wool blanket backpacking to use as a matchcoat and offset the weight by needing less of my other clothes.
@@charliemcdowell5231 Yeah, i totally agree. I think another thing with cloaks, it helps both in cold and hot sunny weather. By proteckting from the sun too. One thing i really like with cloaks(warning i have not had alot experience) is they helps allot with body heat management. Hot day may not really need it, but so easy to adjust when the night comes, or the cold wind blows, or rains. And it proteckts you from the DIRT and wet even when resting. No need to get wet or muddy pants with a cloak on, that log or stone or simply the ground will not affect your regular clothes, avoiding all the asosiated drawbacks with cold and dirty clothes.
The reason we don't have cloaks in fashion anymore is the government and authorities. You'd look super sketchy if you walked around with a cape and hood everywhere...
Primitive camping is a cool subject. You can do a lot with two wool blankets, which also acted as a pack by rolling items in them and tying the ends with a rope / sling. And certain tent fabrics besides wool would swell when wet, keeping the water out as long as you didn't touch the sides. They would be a bit heavy and soggy the next day though. I wish I would have been interested in bushcraft before my bones got so creaky. :)
I've camped in a mesh hammock before and it has 3 drawbacks: 1) you need to put something between you and the mesh--like a blanket or a cloak. Otherwise you wake up looking like you were branded by a waffle iron; 2) anything that you are wearing that can catch on the mesh will catch on the mesh--buckles, buttons, clasps, ears, etc.; 3) you are off the ground, but you are suspended in midair. So, if the air is cold, you are cold. Modern camping hammocks counter this by using an under-quilt, but then we are back to the bedroll's problems.
I would like to point out "outerwear being used as shelter" is a concept that is still being implemented by modern military the world over. It's kinda cool.
I actually sleep in a hammock when I larp and I can tell you, it is heaven. I'm not cold, I'm not hot, I get great back support. All in all, I sleep well at larps. The pebble in the tarp as an anchor point for rope also blew my mind! I' making a new tarp for my hammock that's going to be more decorum and I'll definitely use that to tie in up! Great video! Thanks for all the tips @LivingAnachronism !
I have an old German military sleeved rain poncho. It fits very loose, made of water-repelling material and has O-rivets along the bottom hem to run tent pegs through. It is essentially a tent that you wear. The idea is that one sits on a very low tripod stool (or straight on the ground) and all you need to stay warm inside it is a single tea-light candle between your feet. Pull the hood deep into your face to keep the wind off, light a candle and it can get real toasty.
With the inclusion of Living Anachronism in the mix, and the previous video on potentially bringing others on, will Shadiverisity eventually pick up the idea of having specialists in various medieval subjects as experts or "professors" on certain subjects? The work everyone is putting into this is excellent as it is. I'm just excited to see where everything is headed.
After many years in the aus military can definitely agree a hammock is a must have, and you don't need a massive tarp to be comfortable, I still use my hoochie (slang for tarp) today when I'm doing tasks for search and rescue. On a side note would love to see next time measurements and temperature in both formats, love the content though keep it up!
One advantage of a tarp is for dragging things over grass and snow. My mom would rake leaves up on a tarp, drag them to the back of the property, and dump them. She was a petite person under 5ft tall and under 120 pounds so the tarp gave her mechanical advantage and allowed her to pull a lot more than she could carry in a bag or basket
Shad pointed me to Living Anachronism a year ago with his "Best Cloak" video and I've been following Kramer ever since. It's really cool to see Kramer on Shadiversity now!
The thing to remember with macrame hammocks is that almost all of your body is exposed to the air, so you need a really nice warm blanket. One of the coldest nights I ever spent was in a hammock that was made of light, breathable cloth. So a blanket on top and on bottom are really important. I liked the tepee around the hammock idea and am going to try it
From what I understand... for hammock Camping in cold weather you want what they call a underquilt. It goes around the outside of the hammock hanging underneath you to create a pocket of air warmed by your body heat. That air gap is what insulates you. Any blanket you sleep with inside the hammock is too compacted by your bodyweight to truely insulate in winter conditions.
16:50 about the rolling out of the hammock quickly, it can be done and quite well actually. I've done it myself, where at a hangout area with my friends we would make hammocks in the trees with netting and then just sit or lie down there, and i would occassionally just fall asleep, and when i got attacked by one of my friends or my brother, i would roll out incredibly quickly and get ready for a (non-violent) fight, and the same is true for my friends.
This is REALLY where I can contribute lol being an American I'm more of a "modern" adventurer. Love swords, but guns, knives and hatchets are our weapons, but as Kramer mentioned the bushcraft community rocks the camping/survival/adventuring world with very simple techniques and skills. I've been in the bushcraft game for about four or five years, and the amount of ways you can live comfortable between destinations or while on the road abound. My personal favorite is to carry a poncho, that reaches down to the ankle of my boots. The hood of that poncho becomes the mount for the stake, in the center, while the corners can be tied off, staked down or simply folded to complete the shelter. It's good for one person, or two if you dont mind your feet exposed. Great topic to cover, not just for the Medieval Adventurer, but for every day life for anyone who might find themselves in a situation of having to make do with less.
Kramer is an awesome addition, and I can't wait to see more. The hammock method with specifically that cord hammock, like you said, that can easily be packed up is my favorite by far. Such a smart design and very useful with a cloak.
Glad to see Kramer getting even more love on this channel. I don't watch all of his content, but his cloak video on Ruanas was the perfect blend of fantasy commentary, historicallly-grounded outdoorsmanship, and practical cosplay I've seen. Glad he's becoming a regular here :)
Fandabi Dozi did a video last year where he travelled for four days with traditional Scottish gear, he had his great kilt, a staff, oat cakes, reindeer hide shoes and some other gear, I think it'd be more 16th century because of the Kilt but and interesting video that this one reminded me of. Also Skill Tree's pack that turns into a tent. I'm adding this knowledge to my bone box for when I leave civilization. 😆
Thanks, subbed him. Got a kilt and worn it in Ozzie bush but the great kilt is something different, more like a great big long blanket, serves as kilt,cloak, blanket at the same time.
Wow, my current D&D character actually *already* carries a hammock (as a reflavour of the standard bedroll) because he's a Ranger and loves sleeping up in trees! This really lends some practical weight to that choice :D
Did the same with an Elf character in Pathfinder that was moving towards limb walking. Had him sleep and even do guard duty up high in a tree. Rope hammocks should be standard part of bedrolls for Wood Elves
The compact rope hammock, and its versatility really caught my interest. Plus the one of the comments talked about having a pack animal for your adventuring parties… I might have to implement that
Makes you appreciate modern sleeping bags and tents. Also the thin inflatable mats that give you a bit of support along with an air layer for insulation from the ground.
Once you sleep in a medieval style canvas tent all that appriciation for the modern tents will be nowhere to be found. Maybe you will miss the easy portability and light load, but that is the only thing you'll miss. A proper canvas tent is fantastic. I havent tried the thin inflatable matresses, I just know that the regular inflatable ones are a good way to freeze your arse off during the night if you dont insulate yourself from them.
@@Throku with regards to those thin- self-inflating pads- they are actually built for cold weather. They are different from typical air mattresses, as they are really less "inflatable" and more compressed foam, which, when the air valve is opened, expands with the air allowed to enter. It's more of a foam pad, wrapped in a water/air tight casing. With this composition, they are fantastic for cold weather. the "self-inflating" part of their description is kind of misleading, though technically still accurate in a way. Hope this helps!
@@Throku Look for new houses being built (especially in the colder areas) and they typically use a radiant heat barrier to wrap the foundation. The material is very light weight and works far better than most bed mats for camping. Most construction companies will let you just have the scraps as it costs more for them to dispose of the stuff and it isn't hard to find one human sized to use. I found one, and stitched on trim around the edges. Saved over $100 doing that.
Great video! I enjoy camping where I can easily carry necessities in one backpack, and carrying your overnight shelter with you is one of the biggest concerns in terms of weight and bulk. These were some great ideas! Thank you, guys!
Now I want to see what the best shape and type of cloak for simple camping would be, best stick-poll or interior lining etc. Would work great with a small campfire as well
I have a couple of reindeer pelts, they are amazing! I got them from a Christmas fair where on one of the stalls people sold them on behalf of the Sami people, traditional reindeer herders. The Sami eat reindeer, but ultimately wind up with more pelts then they can use, so they sell the rest.
trust me, you would be an idiot not to have shifts even if you were a light sleeper. seeing things from a mile or two away is much better than a yard or two for a really light sleeper.
@@jamoecw Agreed. I guess my point is, any adventurer that evolved from a social animal wouldn’t be very smart to sleep in the wilderness alone without either friends or some sort of proximity alarm
@@joshuahunt3032 i do small unit stuff with the military and when planning things out with new people it isn't too unusual for a group to decide that since they are light sleepers to forgo night watches in the middle of nowhere due to them being light sleepers. that plan always gets nixed by anyone with any real experience overseeing the training. an 18 hour day rolling into 6 hours of rest isn't too bad, but having 3 people do 2 hour watches out of 4-8 people with one of them getting the mid watch and thus only 2 hours of realistic sleep sucks pretty hard. of course when you look at DnD spell recovery with 8 hours of rest then you need 16 hours of downtime while traveling for just two shifts, and thus only 8 hours of travel at most (realistically it would be about 5 or 6 hours). the no watch path is pretty attractive, but is still a bad idea.
One of the many reasons people almost always traveled in groups, safety in numbers, sharing responsibilities and resources. Modern american culture is very competition-oriented, beating the other is prime, Not so anywhere else, esp. in the more 'primitive' communities. Working well with others is far more important than beating your personal best.
Really like the special guest Kramer. You and he are from the same cloth. Clean presentation, give justified opinions, full demonstration of the opinions and leave room for innovation and options. Really well done. More colabs please! Huzzah!
An alternative to a tent pole tying the top of your tent/blanket to an overhanging branch with a chord. When tying a hammock to a pair of trees a rope tied to the same trees above it makes a good ridge to drape your tarp over to make a tent over your hammock protecting you from the weather.
Last year when hiking for several weeks I carried a button-up long sleved shirt with me for several reasons: sun protection, critter protection, and during breakst to build a sun-shade with a pole, roughly using the technique shown for the cloak-tent. It´s incredible how versatile a piece of cloth can become.
I think a lot of people kept a basic blanket as a cloak just to keep the versatility. Its a cloak, its a blanket, its a hammock, its a tent, etc. Seriously, this video is actually a good primer for historical bushcraft or just creating more immersion in your TTRPG.
Lindybeige did a great short vid about how great penannular brooches are for converting a blanket into a cloak th-cam.com/video/XFKiTrBMGGE/w-d-xo.html
One of the best things about collaborations is people helping each other. Because this is often rare these days and it is heartwarming to see that it still exists.
Definitely look at what people do in bushcraft. They do medieval adventuring for real, just with a higher quality of materials available (though a lot of people are into primitive methods). Also take a look at people who go camping in different climates and seasons. Winter camping in heavy snow is something a lot of people enjoy (myself included) and there are a lot of considerations you have to think about, from snowshoes to travel without getting too exhausted, to how you get firewood and survive the night without going hypothermic. Likewise, surviving in a tropical jungle has its own set of challenges.
The hammock and cloak combo is probably your best bang for weight. Throw in a tarp and some rope and you have a lot of options for environmental protection. That is of course if we're not considering spells like rope trick, Leomunds Secure Shelter, Tiny hut, or magnificent mansion from DnD, or other magic that gives access to a secure extradimensional spaces.
I've only found Kramer's channel 6 months ago, but I've been genuinely enjoying them. He makes me want to get back into reenactment again because he tries to balance tradition with modern practicality.
on the topic of tents, even modern day military soldiers only carry half a tent, depending on someone else to complete their tent. also, Stickiversity merch when?
Thank you. I love your videos. Reminds me of the camping trips my dad and I use to do. He was a WW2 veteran. 2 purple hearts, and a bronze star. We use to use the campfire rocks rolled into slight ditches we dug. Covered then with pleanty of pine or other fur type branches and lay on them with our wool blankets. The heat given off would last for hours. Like natures electric blankets. Tom S
A Hammock was also my first thought, but every time I see adventurers in movies camp out, especially if there is the danger of Monsters or Bandits they always camp out on the ground, my intuition tells me to climb up a tree and put up my hammock between the Branches, Monsters can't reach me and Bandits can't find me unless they look up every tree at night, humans tend to be pretty blind to stuff above them, unless they are specifically searching for something. I know that it won't work with every tree, but while traveling you can definitely find a good one.
This video made me think of another. There is a TH-camr named Fandabi Dozi and he made videos on the Great Kilt. It then gave me a thought on the usefulness of Kilts to the fantasy adventurers, which includes sleeping.
I've been watching, and enjoying, both of your channels for a while, and as an aspiring author with many ideas for fantasy stories, channels such as these have been very informative and have helped me learn a great many things. As a some of my fantasy stories involve people traveling a lot, videos such as these help me understand how these characters would travel and what supplies they would need. When watching a video recently I got the idea that maybe my one group of travelers should have a dog, as a dog could carry some things while not needing as much food as a pack mule, and would be useful in hunting and defense, not to mention companionship. On a completely different topic, I'd like to mention a new fantasy series that you might be interested in. I don't know if you (Shad) will actually see this, but I suppose there's no harm in mentioning it anyway. The series is called The Wingfeather Saga, a four book series with two companion books that is now being turned into an animated TV show, the first season of which is almost complete and can be watched for free. Perhaps you'd like it, perhaps you wouldn't, either way I saw no harm in mentioning it. I enjoyed this video and look forward to your future collaborations.
There are medieval reenactment events - like the Horns of Hattin for example - where most of the participants sleep only with authentic stuff. I took part in that like 4 times and allready booked the flight to israel this year. You do a bit of bushcraft for your sleeping mat with straw, pine needles, or whatever you got on lokation, put half of your cloak on top of that and use the rest as a blanket.
@@muurrarium9460 You mean Israel? There was always and most probably will always be war. I feel safer in Israel (on the places of tourism of course), then on an average christmas market in germany, after the large migrations.
@@TheShieldery Good point (about the unchecked immigrations and we not keeping up with safety protocols). But the situation is escalating a bit more than usual (Israel as well) so plze stay safe (and enjoy!).
I really dislike open tents like the cloke tent because the weather still gets you but If you travel together you cold make a real proper tent out of 2 clokes!
A open shelter like a cloak tent is mostly just to protect you from overhead precipitation. It needs to be paired with a campfire radiating warmth inside the shelter to create a microclimate as it were to be really comfortable in cold weather.
@@Jakoshdw still kinda sucks in bad weather and in good weather I dont need a tent. I dont say its completely useless just that I dislike it. Its like those jackets for spring and fall. Not warm enough for when it's cold but useless in summer.
@@larshenrici1598 It's definitely not the most ideal... but it's basically the same shelter as a more modern poncho shelter. I live in Florida and I've had rain dropping on my head when the weather reports say it's clear skies. If you have a rain poncho and nothing else... at least you have some overhead cover if the weather does something unexpected. Better than being drenched. I understand it's a personal preference though... that kind of shelter is mostly for emergencies or people who enjoy "roughing it".
@@Jakoshdw i live im Germany ther are not a lot and not big pockets of untouched wildness left. And wild campaign is prohibited. But I do a lot of Larp even in early winter and i have seen what bad tents and camping equipment can do to people even short time and relative controlled environments. It totally ruined ther time because they got sick.
@@larshenrici1598 - Yeah... goes to show why all the good survival experts are always stressing how important having basic protection from the elements is. Exposure to the cold can be bad even under controlled conditions. Imagine how it was for our ancestors who only had fur, animal hide, or very crude "cloth" from plant fibers.
This was so very true. The ground is your enemy, in terms of heat loss. If you can get off the ground, it helps to an amazing amount for body heat loss.
This was a really good video! It really does help to shed the light on just how adventurers/travelers in both fantasy and the medieval period actually make/made their way through the world. The one thing I thought it really showed, however, is the importance of traveling with a group. Quick reactions to sudden circumstances are great, but having a few of your mates with you to watch your back while you grab some shuteye is even better. Maybe that’s something you could touch on in the future Shad like say “The Ideal Size for an Adventuring/Traveling Party”?
Another point: you may be able to make a hammock that can pull double-duty as a fishing net. If you wanna get creative, you may even be able to use it like a weapon/pseudo-shield like the retiarius gladiator. EDIT: If you want, you *can* wear a big 3m x 3m decently if you do it up like a Great Kilt. Fandabi Dozi has a video on it that should be the first TH-cam search result for "great kilt".
Welcome to Shadiversity Kramer! Great video. I definitely agree that the hammock is the best option. Especially if you can't find soft ground! Just make sure to build your fire next to a large rock to absorb and reflect the heat, or you'll freeze to death anyway!
Reenactment sleeping 101:
Padded armor = instant pillow.
Wool cloak = worth every penny.
Just another reason gambeson would have been the best armor for an adventurer to use. Instant pillow/blanket/bedding.
I once got quite drunk at an event and slept in my chainmail. I was a bit stiff next day. Oh, and really, really, hungover.
@@engineeredlifeform party like its 1403
People would really get creative when traveling. It wasn't easy back then.
@@engineeredlifeform Henry Skalitz and Hans Capon moment
Thanks so much for having me on Shad! This video was a lot of fun!
I was glad to see you on as well. I speculated some at the beginning of the video on whet you might cover and only noted a few gaps, likely more for brevity :)
Nine inches of dry leaves if not more are recommended for cold weather camping with just a blanket and tarp. Without the moisture barrier you need more insulation from the damp.
Also, beware of wet trees. Leaning up against a wet tree is probably worse than flat ground as it is harder to build up a thick enough insulative layer and the tree will keep directing more moisture to you. Litter/leaves and tarp cover is likely best for light rains. Hammocks can be set under a tarp as well, but in rain some water may follow the ropes down so creating drip points may be useful
And, it was really interesting to watch! The 'stick for a pillow' joke aside, I thought I knew a bit about sleeping rough with historical/adventuring gear but you definitely had a few new approaches that I hadn't through of before - going to have to try them out on my next camp!
Loved your part in this! On the speed exit element of hammocks, one can have the feet anchored closer to the ground. While or offsets aunt if the benefit, it may be worth looking into.
Absolutely brilliant video Kramer! Well done! :)
Great job, Kramer.
Remember that cloaks and staves are also essential hot-weather gear. You're going to get real friendly with that tiny bit of shade at noon in the desert.
For most of my life, I never wore hats, which was a huge mistake on my part. Heat and humidity are nothing compared to the way direct UV rays heat you up.
@@frost8077 Weirdly enough wearing a thin white long-sleeved shirt to keep the direct sunlight off of your skin is good for sun protection, plus the fabric getting soaked with sweat cools you down more than you might expect. Also see if you can put a bandana of some kind under your hat to protect your ears and the back of your neck.
Bringing Kramer on for something like this was a fantastic choice. He's done medieval camping stuff in cold snowy weather to figure out what works and what doesn't. Also the hammock and tarp trap was a clever idea. Just gonna jot that one down, thanks, Kramer.
Especially if you silently lay some rope under it. They'll fall into a burrito and you can simply tie them up to make sure they don't don't get out anytime soon.
Kramer is genuinely one of the best TH-camrs in this community. He's done work with other channels, like skill tree, and he definitely brings his a-game every time. Can't wait to see more content from both Shad and Kramer.
And NateV
I've been subscribed to both Kramer and Skill Tree for almost as long as I've been attending Shadiversity, and fully agree. This is a sign of things to come for the community.
Too bad he's an AI bro 😔
One of Kramer's strengths is that he's a great speaker. He always speaks clearly, but still not that slowly, and he has a way to project his enthusiasm in an informative way. Within this community, the only one I'd say is clearly a better speaker is Lindybeige, who's absolutely excellent, and can make any topic seem interesting.
@@AnotherDuck The unfortunate thing is that he's a huge bigot 😅
I actually use this method when I go camping. The polish military issued a unique type of rain cape to their soldiers in the seventies which could be turned into a tent, and it's what I use, and yes I have slept through rainstorms without even realizing despite the large opening.
The British Army relied on a hooded poncho during the cold war, with eyelets to use it as a shelter-sheet. You could put it on over your webbing or a bergen (rucksack), then it kept everything dry including your weapon, and nothing impeded your access to your ammunition pouches.
I have a pair of these, 2 of them make a tent that can sleep 3 if you don't mind sleeping in close quarters. A tip I got was to use a tripod or tie it up instead of the original center pole.
Lots of surplus rain ponchos/cloaks are designed to double as a small shelter. The US military surplus rain ponchos, the Soviet military plash palatka, and many more. It makes sense when you think about it. A rain poncho is already basically a large piece of water resistant material. Why not make it multifunctional?
@@johns9478 ... and you can use the hole in your poncho/shelter sheet to collect rain water (with free leaves for brewing tea).
Hi from Poland, I can confirm, those rain cloaks - called pałatka - are pretty neat and could be bought for cheap from military surplus at times.
As for the hammock - be weary! The fact that you are off the ground does not mean you will not loose the heat below. Because you lay on top of whatever materials you have and your bodyweight will squeeze them there is little air trapped inbetween the layers to form an insulation. Admittedly I use modern Lesovik hammocks for my forest sleepovers (all material, here with the fishnet structure I imagine the clothes don't get as squished) however I would be careful and pack something to add insulation on the bottom. Nowadays you can add a sleeping mat on top of the hammock, but you can also use an underquilt. The way that works is it traps air between the underquilt and the hammock and that is your insulation layer. To have the same effect cheaper some simply use a second, old sleeping bag that they zip over themselves or attach below the hammock and I suspect you could do the same with a travellers cloak - just make sure you have a way to clasp it sensibly to avoid cold air getting in or loosing the warmed up insulation air that your body has already heated up.
Ah yes a medieval cloak video where Kramer, the cloak man shares his wisdom
hype train!!
Only cloak advice i take is from Kramer and Lindybeige
Same, certain lady made me a certain version of medieval/early mod hunting cloak of Holy Roman Empire regions called Wetterfleck - still in use in some parts of Ger/Aus/Cze/Slo/Hun regions of Central Europe it is so usefull that now I have 2 weight version made by her.
One thick 700+ g/m2 for -10°C moving/-5°C standing while having cotton undershirt + light polycotton shirt and merino sleeveless vest underneath ...
And one lighter ... Both absolutely comfy in both rain, wind and snow/frost
Both can be upgraded easily by switching baselayer to merino and adding smock right under the cloak and it can also cover whole scoped hunting rifle and small backpack ... I am happy with its performance in urban setting and in field and forest too.
His cloak video won the internet.
(And my subscription)
@@MrDukeSilverr you should watch Fandabidozi's video on the Great kilt. He does amazing Scottish history, and the great kilt is the historical version of this video. He even does a trip in the Scottish Highlands with his great kilt instead of a tent.
I love the cloak tent. Eastern European armies to this day use a Lavvu system where two solders buddy up and share their ponchos and overlap them to create a full tent. I like the idea of two medieval adventures sharing their cloaks to create a tent maybe it's only big enough for one to sleep whilst the other stood look out and tending the fire etc.
Same in Oz army
All armies before the 2000 used the combo :rain poncho, tent half and camo cloak in one.
You could use your staff as a tent pole and cut what you need again :)
NVA (east germany) and Bundeswehr (west germany) as well
@@vincentbergmann3946 I learned to use one way back in the 80s. And have managed to buy one from a surplus store since. Marvellous stuff.
Anything is a pillow if you're tired enough 🗿
true, but what if you need sleep before a battle, but aren't tired enough to sleep on a stick
use the grass i guess
@@sirjaroid4725 use your pants
"Where I lay my head is home. See that rock? That's my pillow."
Btw. Since we're on this topic, to get a good night's rest, you tire yourself out
A LOT.
As a avid camper, hiker, bush crafter and rifle and bow hunter. I thoroughly enjoyed this video! God bless you all.
A nice thing with the cloak tent set up is that it wastes less heat from the fire. Even aside from trapping it in, it reflects some of the heat onto you that would otherwise be lost to the environment
Also we should bring cloaks back into fashion
Wool is also resistant to fire.
I really wish cloaks would come back in fashion. I think the reason they likely won't has little to do with people thinking they look dorky, but just incompatibility with the modern environments we spend our time in. It's similar to wide brimmed hats in that they aren't particularly enjoyable to wear inside. Getting in a car? now you have wadded material beneath you (same thing with dusters, trenchcoats etc, hence why the car coat became a thing). work in an office? you got up to go to the water cooler and majestically swished Keith's report off his desk with your dope cloak. I do think that like wide brim hats, cloaks still have a place in outdoor recreation. I fairly frequently bring my wool blanket backpacking to use as a matchcoat and offset the weight by needing less of my other clothes.
@@charliemcdowell5231 Yeah, i totally agree. I think another thing with cloaks, it helps both in cold and hot sunny weather. By proteckting from the sun too.
One thing i really like with cloaks(warning i have not had alot experience) is they helps allot with body heat management. Hot day may not really need it, but so easy to adjust when the night comes, or the cold wind blows, or rains.
And it proteckts you from the DIRT and wet even when resting.
No need to get wet or muddy pants with a cloak on, that log or stone or simply the ground will not affect your regular clothes, avoiding all the asosiated drawbacks with cold and dirty clothes.
Cloaks, longcoats, wide-brimmed hats, tall boots, ect. They should all go back into fashion; they are dope af
The reason we don't have cloaks in fashion anymore is the government and authorities. You'd look super sketchy if you walked around with a cape and hood everywhere...
Kramer absolutely killed this as expected! Love seeing his face as much as possible
his eyes are spaced like the Sloth from the Ice age movies
Stick is a very good pillow. Especially if it's still attached to the tree.
And as this channel has firmly established Stick is a good weapon so just showing how versatile it is.
Nunchuks might actually be better than a stick to use as a pillow.
@@PhilBagels Sacrilege. The chain shall pull on my luscious hair.
He's a great addition to the team. Loved his video on different types of cloaks.
I love that Shadiversity is adding professors! The castle of knowledge grows!
Seems like Aragorn has it right. Two cloaks: use one to wrap yourself in and the second one to make a tent.
So great to watch Shad and Kramer collaborating 😃
I think Kramer is going to be a great addition to the channel. The tent cloak is such a neat idea, and the pebble button was pretty cool.
Primitive camping is a cool subject. You can do a lot with two wool blankets, which also acted as a pack by rolling items in them and tying the ends with a rope / sling. And certain tent fabrics besides wool would swell when wet, keeping the water out as long as you didn't touch the sides. They would be a bit heavy and soggy the next day though. I wish I would have been interested in bushcraft before my bones got so creaky. :)
Just go for it, you are not that old... enjoy!
I've camped in a mesh hammock before and it has 3 drawbacks:
1) you need to put something between you and the mesh--like a blanket or a cloak. Otherwise you wake up looking like you were branded by a waffle iron;
2) anything that you are wearing that can catch on the mesh will catch on the mesh--buckles, buttons, clasps, ears, etc.;
3) you are off the ground, but you are suspended in midair. So, if the air is cold, you are cold. Modern camping hammocks counter this by using an under-quilt, but then we are back to the bedroll's problems.
Regarding the 3 point cloak and stick tent - the stick can be your staff/walking stick, so you're basically carrying a multi-utility item already.
Kramer and Shad in the same video? SIGN ME UP!
Love the cooperation ❤
I would like to point out "outerwear being used as shelter" is a concept that is still being implemented by modern military the world over. It's kinda cool.
Poncho and liner for the win!
*mourns the retirement of the woobie*
zeltbahn/plash platka moment
Why I love my poncho.
@@rl-762 That is another good option.
I actually sleep in a hammock when I larp and I can tell you, it is heaven. I'm not cold, I'm not hot, I get great back support. All in all, I sleep well at larps. The pebble in the tarp as an anchor point for rope also blew my mind! I' making a new tarp for my hammock that's going to be more decorum and I'll definitely use that to tie in up! Great video! Thanks for all the tips @LivingAnachronism !
Kramer is a wondrous bloke
And the tent that's made from a woolen cloak
Is undoubtedly a genius stroke!
the invention of backpacks was a huge win for humanity
I have an old German military sleeved rain poncho. It fits very loose, made of water-repelling material and has O-rivets along the bottom hem to run tent pegs through. It is essentially a tent that you wear. The idea is that one sits on a very low tripod stool (or straight on the ground) and all you need to stay warm inside it is a single tea-light candle between your feet. Pull the hood deep into your face to keep the wind off, light a candle and it can get real toasty.
With the inclusion of Living Anachronism in the mix, and the previous video on potentially bringing others on, will Shadiverisity eventually pick up the idea of having specialists in various medieval subjects as experts or "professors" on certain subjects? The work everyone is putting into this is excellent as it is. I'm just excited to see where everything is headed.
After many years in the aus military can definitely agree a hammock is a must have, and you don't need a massive tarp to be comfortable, I still use my hoochie (slang for tarp) today when I'm doing tasks for search and rescue. On a side note would love to see next time measurements and temperature in both formats, love the content though keep it up!
One advantage of a tarp is for dragging things over grass and snow.
My mom would rake leaves up on a tarp, drag them to the back of the property, and dump them. She was a petite person under 5ft tall and under 120 pounds so the tarp gave her mechanical advantage and allowed her to pull a lot more than she could carry in a bag or basket
Can confirm the hammock/poncho "hooch" kept me off the ground and dry in all sorts of inclement weather in my military days.
Shad pointed me to Living Anachronism a year ago with his "Best Cloak" video and I've been following Kramer ever since. It's really cool to see Kramer on Shadiversity now!
The thing to remember with macrame hammocks is that almost all of your body is exposed to the air, so you need a really nice warm blanket. One of the coldest nights I ever spent was in a hammock that was made of light, breathable cloth. So a blanket on top and on bottom are really important. I liked the tepee around the hammock idea and am going to try it
From what I understand... for hammock Camping in cold weather you want what they call a underquilt. It goes around the outside of the hammock hanging underneath you to create a pocket of air warmed by your body heat. That air gap is what insulates you. Any blanket you sleep with inside the hammock is too compacted by your bodyweight to truely insulate in winter conditions.
What the other guy said. Dead air is a very good insulator. This is the other reason why a wind/rain proof tent is important.
Unironically one of the best Shadiversity videos so far IMO
Awesome job! I love that Kramer joined Shadiversity and I'm hoping to see more of him in collab with Shad :D
16:50 about the rolling out of the hammock quickly, it can be done and quite well actually. I've done it myself, where at a hangout area with my friends we would make hammocks in the trees with netting and then just sit or lie down there, and i would occassionally just fall asleep, and when i got attacked by one of my friends or my brother, i would roll out incredibly quickly and get ready for a (non-violent) fight, and the same is true for my friends.
Kramer's a legend. Great video. Loved the hammock idea and the idea of using the cloak as a tent
This is REALLY where I can contribute lol being an American I'm more of a "modern" adventurer. Love swords, but guns, knives and hatchets are our weapons, but as Kramer mentioned the bushcraft community rocks the camping/survival/adventuring world with very simple techniques and skills. I've been in the bushcraft game for about four or five years, and the amount of ways you can live comfortable between destinations or while on the road abound. My personal favorite is to carry a poncho, that reaches down to the ankle of my boots. The hood of that poncho becomes the mount for the stake, in the center, while the corners can be tied off, staked down or simply folded to complete the shelter. It's good for one person, or two if you dont mind your feet exposed.
Great topic to cover, not just for the Medieval Adventurer, but for every day life for anyone who might find themselves in a situation of having to make do with less.
I'm glad you chose him to help you out on the videos, that was very interesting and entertaining since I'm also into modern bush crafting
Kramer is an awesome addition, and I can't wait to see more. The hammock method with specifically that cord hammock, like you said, that can easily be packed up is my favorite by far. Such a smart design and very useful with a cloak.
Hell yes! Kramer is amazing and this collaboration is a long time coming!
Glad to see Kramer getting even more love on this channel. I don't watch all of his content, but his cloak video on Ruanas was the perfect blend of fantasy commentary, historicallly-grounded outdoorsmanship, and practical cosplay I've seen. Glad he's becoming a regular here :)
Fandabi Dozi did a video last year where he travelled for four days with traditional Scottish gear, he had his great kilt, a staff, oat cakes, reindeer hide shoes and some other gear, I think it'd be more 16th century because of the Kilt but and interesting video that this one reminded me of. Also Skill Tree's pack that turns into a tent. I'm adding this knowledge to my bone box for when I leave civilization. 😆
Absolutely love Fandobi Dozi's videos. Can't recommend them enough
Thanks, subbed him. Got a kilt and worn it in Ozzie bush but the great kilt is something different, more like a great big long blanket, serves as kilt,cloak, blanket at the same time.
Kramer - the man, the myth, the legend
Wow, my current D&D character actually *already* carries a hammock (as a reflavour of the standard bedroll) because he's a Ranger and loves sleeping up in trees! This really lends some practical weight to that choice :D
Did the same with an Elf character in Pathfinder that was moving towards limb walking. Had him sleep and even do guard duty up high in a tree. Rope hammocks should be standard part of bedrolls for Wood Elves
Kramer's great, so is his channel. I liked the cloak and hammock solution best.
The compact rope hammock, and its versatility really caught my interest. Plus the one of the comments talked about having a pack animal for your adventuring parties… I might have to implement that
Kramer needs more publicity. He's medieval/fantasy kits are top notch.
Makes you appreciate modern sleeping bags and tents. Also the thin inflatable mats that give you a bit of support along with an air layer for insulation from the ground.
Once you sleep in a medieval style canvas tent all that appriciation for the modern tents will be nowhere to be found. Maybe you will miss the easy portability and light load, but that is the only thing you'll miss. A proper canvas tent is fantastic.
I havent tried the thin inflatable matresses, I just know that the regular inflatable ones are a good way to freeze your arse off during the night if you dont insulate yourself from them.
@@Throku with regards to those thin- self-inflating pads- they are actually built for cold weather. They are different from typical air mattresses, as they are really less "inflatable" and more compressed foam, which, when the air valve is opened, expands with the air allowed to enter. It's more of a foam pad, wrapped in a water/air tight casing. With this composition, they are fantastic for cold weather.
the "self-inflating" part of their description is kind of misleading, though technically still accurate in a way.
Hope this helps!
@@Throku Look for new houses being built (especially in the colder areas) and they typically use a radiant heat barrier to wrap the foundation. The material is very light weight and works far better than most bed mats for camping. Most construction companies will let you just have the scraps as it costs more for them to dispose of the stuff and it isn't hard to find one human sized to use. I found one, and stitched on trim around the edges. Saved over $100 doing that.
Love that it was actually shown on how it would work, not just told. I really enjoyed it
Great video! I enjoy camping where I can easily carry necessities in one backpack, and carrying your overnight shelter with you is one of the biggest concerns in terms of weight and bulk. These were some great ideas! Thank you, guys!
Yay! I’ve been waiting for Kramer to make an appearance on this channel!
You can also use the hammock at net so it becomes even more useful
So fun to see you collaborating with others Kramer!! I can’t wait to see your next video with Shad!!!
Now I want to see what the best shape and type of cloak for simple camping would be, best stick-poll or interior lining etc. Would work great with a small campfire as well
Kramer has a video on types of cloaks on his channel. He seems to favor the Ruana cloak for general purposes....
I have a couple of reindeer pelts, they are amazing! I got them from a Christmas fair where on one of the stalls people sold them on behalf of the Sami people, traditional reindeer herders. The Sami eat reindeer, but ultimately wind up with more pelts then they can use, so they sell the rest.
Absolutely love to see you two are gonna be working together!
Ok, I'll be using the net hammock backpacks and the empty room cheap stop as ideas in my setting now, thanks
I’m a heavy enough sleeper that I’d probably need to be part of a party or group just for the sake of having watch-shifts during the night lol
trust me, you would be an idiot not to have shifts even if you were a light sleeper. seeing things from a mile or two away is much better than a yard or two for a really light sleeper.
@@jamoecw Agreed. I guess my point is, any adventurer that evolved from a social animal wouldn’t be very smart to sleep in the wilderness alone without either friends or some sort of proximity alarm
@@joshuahunt3032 i do small unit stuff with the military and when planning things out with new people it isn't too unusual for a group to decide that since they are light sleepers to forgo night watches in the middle of nowhere due to them being light sleepers. that plan always gets nixed by anyone with any real experience overseeing the training.
an 18 hour day rolling into 6 hours of rest isn't too bad, but having 3 people do 2 hour watches out of 4-8 people with one of them getting the mid watch and thus only 2 hours of realistic sleep sucks pretty hard. of course when you look at DnD spell recovery with 8 hours of rest then you need 16 hours of downtime while traveling for just two shifts, and thus only 8 hours of travel at most (realistically it would be about 5 or 6 hours). the no watch path is pretty attractive, but is still a bad idea.
One of the many reasons people almost always traveled in groups, safety in numbers, sharing responsibilities and resources. Modern american culture is very competition-oriented, beating the other is prime, Not so anywhere else, esp. in the more 'primitive' communities. Working well with others is far more important than beating your personal best.
Really like the special guest Kramer. You and he are from the same cloth. Clean presentation, give justified opinions, full demonstration of the opinions and leave room for innovation and options.
Really well done. More colabs please! Huzzah!
Love the hammock idea.
I love coming back every couple of months and seeing how far his outfit has progressed
Kramer! Love this man, been subbed to livinganachronism for a while now! Excellent choice Shad!
An alternative to a tent pole tying the top of your tent/blanket to an overhanging branch with a chord. When tying a hammock to a pair of trees a rope tied to the same trees above it makes a good ridge to drape your tarp over to make a tent over your hammock protecting you from the weather.
you dont need to get out of the hammock to fight, you just swing back and forth and let the momentum stab your enemy!
Last year when hiking for several weeks I carried a button-up long sleved shirt with me for several reasons: sun protection, critter protection, and during breakst to build a sun-shade with a pole, roughly using the technique shown for the cloak-tent. It´s incredible how versatile a piece of cloth can become.
I think a lot of people kept a basic blanket as a cloak just to keep the versatility. Its a cloak, its a blanket, its a hammock, its a tent, etc.
Seriously, this video is actually a good primer for historical bushcraft or just creating more immersion in your TTRPG.
Lindybeige did a great short vid about how great penannular brooches are for converting a blanket into a cloak th-cam.com/video/XFKiTrBMGGE/w-d-xo.html
@@johnbd9765 And he is right. Most bushcraft people call it a blanket pin for the reason of how it can make a blanket into a sleeping bag.
@@dougmartin2007 Great kilt are the best garment for this
One of the best things about collaborations is people helping each other.
Because this is often rare these days and it is heartwarming to see that it still exists.
Definitely look at what people do in bushcraft. They do medieval adventuring for real, just with a higher quality of materials available (though a lot of people are into primitive methods). Also take a look at people who go camping in different climates and seasons. Winter camping in heavy snow is something a lot of people enjoy (myself included) and there are a lot of considerations you have to think about, from snowshoes to travel without getting too exhausted, to how you get firewood and survive the night without going hypothermic. Likewise, surviving in a tropical jungle has its own set of challenges.
I love the outfit he wears. It is light enough for every day wear but also provides a lot of protection. The pauldrons also look cool.
The hammock and cloak combo is probably your best bang for weight. Throw in a tarp and some rope and you have a lot of options for environmental protection. That is of course if we're not considering spells like rope trick, Leomunds Secure Shelter, Tiny hut, or magnificent mansion from DnD, or other magic that gives access to a secure extradimensional spaces.
Awesome that Kramer is joining! He is great and I love his channel as well!
THIS IS THE COLLAB WE NEEDED. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
DREAM TEAM
What a Two-For-One offer this is, you're spoiling us sir!
👍👍👍👍
I'm really glad Kramer gets to coattail a big channel because he has so much potential to be big if he can just reach more people
My favorite? The tree. Easiest one to get up and defend yourself from.
I've only found Kramer's channel 6 months ago, but I've been genuinely enjoying them.
He makes me want to get back into reenactment again because he tries to balance tradition with modern practicality.
Kramers channel is excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the topic of tents, even modern day military soldiers only carry half a tent, depending on someone else to complete their tent.
also, Stickiversity merch when?
Thank you. I love your videos. Reminds me of the camping trips my dad and I use to do. He was a WW2 veteran. 2 purple hearts, and a bronze star. We use to use the campfire rocks rolled into slight ditches we dug. Covered then with pleanty of pine or other fur type branches and lay on them with our wool blankets. The heat given off would last for hours. Like natures electric blankets. Tom S
A Hammock was also my first thought, but every time I see adventurers in movies camp out, especially if there is the danger of Monsters or Bandits they always camp out on the ground, my intuition tells me to climb up a tree and put up my hammock between the Branches, Monsters can't reach me and Bandits can't find me unless they look up every tree at night, humans tend to be pretty blind to stuff above them, unless they are specifically searching for something. I know that it won't work with every tree, but while traveling you can definitely find a good one.
the bit of wisdom with hammocks is only string yourself up as high as you are willing to fall
Love love love this
Fantastic video! Definitely a lot of new ideas for my video game. Awesome stuff, Kramer!
17:50 tactical burrito capture I'm DYING 🤣🤣🤣
Yay Kramer! Excellent addition to the Shadiverse!
I love the Kramer collabs!
This video made me think of another. There is a TH-camr named Fandabi Dozi and he made videos on the Great Kilt. It then gave me a thought on the usefulness of Kilts to the fantasy adventurers, which includes sleeping.
Loved the hammock one! The group in my story starts out in a big dense forest so hammocks might make sense
This was phenomenal. Looking forward forward for more!
I loved the Tent Cloak and the small cord hammock. Can easily put it into a backpack or pouch on your belt.
I've been watching, and enjoying, both of your channels for a while, and as an aspiring author with many ideas for fantasy stories, channels such as these have been very informative and have helped me learn a great many things. As a some of my fantasy stories involve people traveling a lot, videos such as these help me understand how these characters would travel and what supplies they would need. When watching a video recently I got the idea that maybe my one group of travelers should have a dog, as a dog could carry some things while not needing as much food as a pack mule, and would be useful in hunting and defense, not to mention companionship.
On a completely different topic, I'd like to mention a new fantasy series that you might be interested in. I don't know if you (Shad) will actually see this, but I suppose there's no harm in mentioning it anyway. The series is called The Wingfeather Saga, a four book series with two companion books that is now being turned into an animated TV show, the first season of which is almost complete and can be watched for free. Perhaps you'd like it, perhaps you wouldn't, either way I saw no harm in mentioning it.
I enjoyed this video and look forward to your future collaborations.
Welcome Kramer! I love cooperation videos, especially ones between creators who i both follow, and i'm looking forward to more!
Thank you Herbert!
There are medieval reenactment events - like the Horns of Hattin for example - where most of the participants sleep only with authentic stuff. I took part in that like 4 times and allready booked the flight to israel this year. You do a bit of bushcraft for your sleeping mat with straw, pine needles, or whatever you got on lokation, put half of your cloak on top of that and use the rest as a blanket.
You do realize that place is about to be a full blown warzone, right?
@@muurrarium9460 You mean Israel? There was always and most probably will always be war. I feel safer in Israel (on the places of tourism of course), then on an average christmas market in germany, after the large migrations.
@@TheShieldery Good point (about the unchecked immigrations and we not keeping up with safety protocols). But the situation is escalating a bit more than usual (Israel as well) so plze stay safe (and enjoy!).
Kramer!!
Glad you guys are collaborating
Did Shad just admit a STICK is not good at something!?!
Hammock genuinely is an amazing thing
I really dislike open tents like the cloke tent because the weather still gets you but If you travel together you cold make a real proper tent out of 2 clokes!
A open shelter like a cloak tent is mostly just to protect you from overhead precipitation. It needs to be paired with a campfire radiating warmth inside the shelter to create a microclimate as it were to be really comfortable in cold weather.
@@Jakoshdw still kinda sucks in bad weather and in good weather I dont need a tent. I dont say its completely useless just that I dislike it. Its like those jackets for spring and fall. Not warm enough for when it's cold but useless in summer.
@@larshenrici1598 It's definitely not the most ideal... but it's basically the same shelter as a more modern poncho shelter.
I live in Florida and I've had rain dropping on my head when the weather reports say it's clear skies. If you have a rain poncho and nothing else... at least you have some overhead cover if the weather does something unexpected. Better than being drenched.
I understand it's a personal preference though... that kind of shelter is mostly for emergencies or people who enjoy "roughing it".
@@Jakoshdw i live im Germany ther are not a lot and not big pockets of untouched wildness left. And wild campaign is prohibited.
But I do a lot of Larp even in early winter and i have seen what bad tents and camping equipment can do to people even short time and relative controlled environments. It totally ruined ther time because they got sick.
@@larshenrici1598 - Yeah... goes to show why all the good survival experts are always stressing how important having basic protection from the elements is. Exposure to the cold can be bad even under controlled conditions. Imagine how it was for our ancestors who only had fur, animal hide, or very crude "cloth" from plant fibers.
This was so very true. The ground is your enemy, in terms of heat loss. If you can get off the ground, it helps to an amazing amount for body heat loss.
I'm greatly interested in further collaboration between two of my favourite TH-camrs. Hope that you're doing well, Shad.
This was a really good video! It really does help to shed the light on just how adventurers/travelers in both fantasy and the medieval period actually make/made their way through the world. The one thing I thought it really showed, however, is the importance of traveling with a group. Quick reactions to sudden circumstances are great, but having a few of your mates with you to watch your back while you grab some shuteye is even better. Maybe that’s something you could touch on in the future Shad like say “The Ideal Size for an Adventuring/Traveling Party”?
Another point: you may be able to make a hammock that can pull double-duty as a fishing net. If you wanna get creative, you may even be able to use it like a weapon/pseudo-shield like the retiarius gladiator.
EDIT: If you want, you *can* wear a big 3m x 3m decently if you do it up like a Great Kilt. Fandabi Dozi has a video on it that should be the first TH-cam search result for "great kilt".
Welcome to Shadiversity Kramer! Great video. I definitely agree that the hammock is the best option. Especially if you can't find soft ground! Just make sure to build your fire next to a large rock to absorb and reflect the heat, or you'll freeze to death anyway!