Fiat 124 - The Conventional Italian Car - James May's Cars Of The People - BBC Brit
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- James takes a spin in the "rather conventional" Fiat 124 car but it's a bit more conventional then you might think...
Taken from James May's Cars of the People.
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The Fiat 124 is an unappreciated design classic.
Such unfussy neat lines.
well proportioned and pleasing lines for a basic 3-box design. not many car designers able to achieve that.
It’s almost designed TOO perfectly. I mean there are definitely better looking cars, but this car is so simple yet effective that it would be VERY hard to beat in terms of design and simplicity.
The design is so perfectly simple in terms of straight lines and body design, that it is beautiful
It gets a Lada respect in Russia!
All the world: Fiat 124
Russians: Vaz 2101
Жигуль бро, копейка к ладам не относилась
@@DiegoShock на экспорт они шли как Lada, бро ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5
Žigul
@@MrOndrof ты сейчас демона на латыни вызвал
Spain; SEAT 124
He doesn't know the trick with this Car when you turning the corner of the window in reverse position it actually becoming free air cooler in your face)
chumbuckery beat me to it. You can’t film a piece to camera with the windows open or it drowns out his voice.
I thought the triangle window was the crotch cooler.
Knowing James may, a man who was born 40 years before his own conception, likely knows this trick. If you noticed, the windows weren’t rolled down either. This is all likely due to filming and preserving audio quality
And you can taste more than 100 species of bugs with your tongue
And the mirror would be in the way.
Now we know where Lada came from
+Pasza Biceps Yugoslavian Zastava brand also had its own dreary derivate, the model 101 and later 128. my dad owned a 101.
+Pasza Biceps and Polski Fiat, Seat, Premier Auto's India, ZAZ, and all Zastava models from 1300 to the Skala
+TheCarArchives Also the early cars of turkish brand Tofas. They made licenced building of this car!
Paul Horn Yes Tofas still produces Fiat cars in Bursa such as the Doblo and the new Tipo
TheCarArchives
I thought they build little peugeots?
I HAVE NOW A FIAT 124 A 1200 7/1966 WITH 1,355,678 KM
AND STILL WORK IN BERGAMO ITALY
Michele Brambilla my '82 Fiat 131 supermirafiori has 500,000 kilometers
Il tutto, ricordiamolo, non è merito della Fiat, ma del santino sul cruscotto.
I had one ..... Shitties car I've ever had.
Send me whatsupp video and photo ...
@@bacaca У нас выпускалось 7 моделей, последние кончились в 2012 году, народ хочет классику-проста в ремонте ,сгнивает за пять лет ,зато 5тысяч долларов. Современные ауди, фольцваген, мерседес,бмв -брать нельзя да и дорого. также вольво ,форд,мазду брать нельзя-моторы тоже на 100тысяч .люди ездиют за киа хеундаях-мусор, зато 12 т долларов.другая часть людей пол года пересаживается на ладу , она у нас от 6 т долларов.
These cars drove/drive pretty well, especially on rough roads. The Russian model was the Lada. In 1985 communist Hungary, my cousin had one with an "export model" 5 speed manual. You could feel this car. The tires, road, transmission, suspension and the engine revving. His lasted from 1985 to 2005 and had 426,000 km (263,000 miles) before he sold it for parts due to extensive rust. If you learned to drive in this car? You're a far more intelligent driver for it. No power steering, power brakes, no BS. You had to understand how and when to shift, how to effectively steer, how to drive on various surfaces and how to maintain a basic car.
"when to shift"? i can start from 0 to 70km on second gear, easy👍
Wise words
I remember this car when I was a kid , this is why fiat are still in existence today , good honest reliable cars .
RELIABLE ??
I think the Italian consumer has to take what he can get AND AFFORD. [Although I do like the style & functionality of the FIAL 124 SEDAN.]
there's only two type of people:
1. Oh, Fiat
2. О, Копейка)
Да
Da
У батька была копейка с фиатовским движком. Не убиваемая и долговечная была и я на ней учился. Как я ещё хочу на ней кататься.
Жигули❤️❤️❤️🇷🇺🇧🇬🇷🇺🇧🇬🇷🇺🇧🇬
60hp from a 1.2l-engine that old is quite a lot actually. there is a lot of recent naturally aspirated engines that don't exceed that figure. i'm thinking of the fiesta mk v that was built up to 2008 for an example.
+Trenthamfolk I just read it poops out 69 hp sorry xD
+Gigaguenther Manufacturers having to bolt all sorts of emmision control parts onto an engine are what sap all the power on modern engines. Also it's the reason why American big V8s were such a joke during the mid 70s- late 90s take the Cadillac 8.2L V8 from 1971 it made 365hp, by 1976 that same engine having to meet emmision regulations was making a feeble 190hp.
The 1966 corolla had a 1.0 liter engine with 67 hp
+Matt Bartholomew That's certainly part of it, but there's two other factors at play: First, they used to measure power at the flywheel/flex plate, then they started measuring it at the wheel. Second, many of the engines from the 70's and 80's were underrated on purpose to get around insurance barriers.
SAE horsepowers, significantly less if tested with DIN system
*For all those who don't know*
Names:
• Original (Italian) name - FIAT 124 (1966-1974)
• Soviet/Russian version - VAZ 2101 "Kopeyka" (1970-1988), 2103 "Zhiguli" (1972-1984), 2105 (1980-2010) and 2107 (1982-2012)
• In Canada and Colombia - Lada 1500 and Signet
• In Equador - Lada 2104 (VAZ 2104) (1984-2012), 2105 (VAZ 2105) (1980-2010), 2107 (VAZ 2107) (1982-2012), Classic and Clásico
• In Denmark and West Germany - Lada Nova
• In France, East Germany, Portugal and Spain - Lada Kalinka and SEAT 124 (1968-1980)
• In Argentina and Brazil - Lada Laika
• In Yugoslavia and Britain - Lada Riva
• In Cuba - Lada Sputnik
• Turkish version - Murat 124 and Tofaş Serçe
• İndian version - Premier 118NE
Assembly locations:
• Turin, Italy
• Johor Bahru, Malaysia (KPKK)
• Casablanca, Morocco (Somaca)
• Barcelona Zona Franca, Spain
• Pamplona Navarra, Spain
• 6th of October City, Egypt
• Tolyatti, Samara Oblast, Russia
• Argun, Russia (Chechen Avto)
• Cairo, Egypt (Alamal Group, 2002 - )
• Cherkasy, Ukraine (Bogdan)
• Izhevsk, Russia (IzhAvto)
• Kherson, Ukraine (Anto-Rus)
• Kremenchuk, Ukraine (Kremenchug Car Assembly)
• Lutsk, Ukraine (LuAZ)
• Tolyatti, Russia (AvtoVAZ)
• Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakhstan (Azia Avto)
• Zaporizhia, Ukraine (ZAZ)
You forgot to mention, South Korea :)
2104, 2105, 2106 and 2107 are not Fiat 124 and they are much more popular
Man, all cars (2101, 2102, 2103, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2107) are called "Zhiguli", not just 2103. The name "Zhiguli" is intended for the domestic market of the USSR. For the foreign market, the name "Lada" is used. The word "Kopeyka" means 1/100 of the ruble and because of this, 2101 is called "Kopeyka", such as this is the "01" model.
@@daraka1754 2106 is very similar to 2103 and therefore to 2101 and Fiat 124
Don’t forget Bursa, Turkey (TOFAŞ)
When I first started driving at 17, I had a Fiat 124, then a Fiat 124 Special, and then a Fiat 124 Sport coupe. I loved them all.
James May, next time you drive a car with that windows, turn the little triangular one. By turning it enough you have a natural air intake while driving, and you won't need aircon! (trust me, thousands of italians survived that way hot italian summers in that kind of car!)
Im site hew knows thay, but might affect tbe sound
They can't really do it beefcake then he wouldn't be able to be heard. The microphone would pick up all the winds noise.
beautiful, honest, pure car design.
And russians ripped it off.
Perittologos Megas Sure it looks like a "beautiful" lada
Reinis Maurers
No the I'ties/woggs sold the press tools to the Ruskies back in the seventies actually.
Beautiful, honest, communist Lada. Or Pirin-FIAT (Bulgarian FIAT). Or both. ☭
какой нафиг пьюркардезайн, эту копейку дибилы с лады штамповали вплоть до начала нулевых
Neat little car, to be honest. Cheap, by all accounts reliable, and easy to drive. I could see a young Italian family man buying one and taking pride in it.
Many Russian familes had a good pride in it. We have even a film Kopeika dedicated to this car. It has a real big place in heart of EVERY Russian, everyone had one in family, and it is still popular (derivatives like Lada 2105, 2107 and small trucks like VIS-2345 and Izh-27175 were produced untill 2012). Even now many people buy used ones as a first car, or if short on money: you can repair it yourself, they are used to Russian bad roads, and parts are widely availeble and cheap. We have a good joke: "If you can drive Lada, you can drive EVERY car)
@@maks_volchonok Fascinating, but this is not a Lada. It's a Fiat.
@@Sanderford Lada 1200 (or Zhiguli 2101, as it was inithially called) is a licenced and slightly modificated copy of a Fiat 124, produced in Soviet Union from 1970 till 1988. Derivatives were priduced till 2012
James May + Fiat = perfection!
My family owned several Fiats when I was young and we had great luck with all of them. I drove a 124 sedan that was the twin of this one. One trick we used in hot weather was to twist the defroster vents around to face the cabin and blow out side air through them. Not A/C but quieter on the highway than 460 A/C.
My father had one of these and i got it in my hands after he passed away. The car was brilliant for its age with a very good handling.
Never even knew this was a thing. I always thought that the Lada “Zhigul” was the original
And ZAZes is not origials and many GAZes is not originals and AZLK
@@Pfluckerwagen e
because much more videos on YT showing Ladas . FIAT 124 is the original project, Ladas are most widespread in space and time, still quite common in Russia
@@roadrelics8162 derivatives of 124 were made as Ladas 2104 and 2107 till 2012) And Lada 2121 4x4, SUV which is partly based on classic Ladas is still made despite being introduced in 1977. And they will keep it in production till 2026!
@@maks_volchonok Thank you very much for your info ! I am happy that they are keeping in prod those Ladas till 2026 !
If they remade this exact chassis and added in a modern interior with safety features and nice things such as air conditioning, I would 100% buy it. Absolute classic car.
too damn hard to get lots of money on such a cars for marketing stupid-asses. They need you to buy car every year, not a once in a 20 year line.
In Spain, Fiat 124 made with the mark Seat 124, under licence (1968 until 1980).
Torrente powerhouse!
It wasn't under licence, it was just re-badging, Fiat owned Seat at the time, they later sold it to VW.
The small triangular glass panel on the door actually rotates to direct the air stream towards the driver. Pretty much sure it had to be in the manual :P
This is my favourite car. I had one 6 years ago, but was not fiat, it was Lada 2101. You really feel that you drive a car.
Das stimmt. 100% Technik
SEAT also made a similar model in the 1960s. Growing up in my preschool years in Spain, the 124 was very common to see.
The for-Spain-only Renault 7 (saloon version of the Renault 5) was also commonly seen.
Yeah.. and SEAT 124 had the biggest engine fitted to those with the 124 2000 (2000cc 115hp).
Alltought the 124 FU was the most powerfull one with a 1800cc doing 118hp
I was born at the end of the eighties in Czechoslovakia, these cars were everywhere. Almost all of them were Ladas though, so it is possible that I have never seen the real Fiat.
Your taste in cars almost exactly the same like mine , Mr James you are
the one and only🙌🏼
My first car was a '68 124 sedan which I restored and installed the whopping 1438 pushrod engine out of a 124 special. I moved on then to an AC 124 sport, but that's another story. Fun cars they were to drive.
I always relate the 124 is the movie "The Burglars"(1971) with Jean-Paul Belmondo,Omar Sharif, and the famous stunt car driver Remy Julienne (he did car jumps from the roof of one building to another and driving over the top of two truck car carriers end to end driving down the road) The movie had an epic car chase with a Fiat 124 driven by the "bad guys" and a black Opel Rekord driven by Omar Sharif.
Long ago, 1974, hitching home from a course in Blandford Forum, I received a lift in one of these. It was a 124 Special T...., 1600cc twin cam. An exhilirating experience being driven very fast across Salisbury Plain.
In ussr - ваз 2101,
In Italy - Fiat 124
Купили у итальянцев право назвать их машину по другому!
Александр Ленских why you steal fiat 124 model?
@@wlaskicod9522 ...The Soviet Ministry of Foreign Trade entered into an agreement with the Italian company Fiat on scientific and technical cooperation. The contract value was estimated at $ 642 million. One of the samples of the Italian concern served as a prototype for the creation of a new car. Moreover, test tests showed the vulnerability of Fiat on Soviet country roads. In the framework of the agreements reached, Italian designers had to take into account the comments of Soviet engineers. Together, more than 800 changes were made...
@@wlaskicod9522 now some stranger Alexander stealed fiat, beautiful
vaz factory was builded in cooperation with italians. they give us rights to use and change construction, and then we got 2101.
if u interested u can read lot more somewhere in wiki, my eng cant give u correct sentenses
@@user-nl1sg5fm3m , от фиата там остался только дизайн. Почти все было переделано и усилено. Именно поэтому у нас копейки до сих пор катаются, а их фиаты можно найти только в музеях.
We had an 80s LADA based on this, great little car, no aircon either :p
My dad used to own one of these when i was little. Still remember it, black as this one, 4 speed manual, 1600cc super mirafiori engine. Built to last, strong as a ship. There was a time back in the 80s when my dad had this fiat 124, an uncle of mine a Seat 124, and another uncle had a Lada 124. All three were pretty much the same car.
My mum had a white one , also 1600 . It had red vinyl interior.
I can still smell it.
A hot sunny day in South Africa , baking in the sun and you open that door….plastic heaven.
I was in Turkey around 25 years ago, and they were using locally made models as Taxis.
1:46 "I'm literally the hottest person in the world"
Back in secondary school 1999. My headmaster gave me a lift home in his yellow Fiat just like this one. Later I realized my Savana juice in my backpack had poured on the passenger seat. I hope he didn't notice 😊. Thank you Mr Lukwago
This entire 3 part series is well worth watching.
Love that car my first car , was 1969 fiat 124 never let me down .... air con in ireland heater more important , lovely comfortable seats,
The only similarity between this and the original Lada is the actual design, the Lada had a thicker and more durable body and also the engine and mechanics was modified to be more reliable in the russian climate.
don´t forget about the heating! the switch of my lada´s heating got stuck once (they are prone fail every once in a while)
you could not drive the car with short pants anymore due to the heat provided to the drivers legroom :^)
That actually happend to me last summer, in the Lada 2112 that I owned then. The thermostat somehow broke and the ventilation system thought that it was winter and freezing cold, it blasted hot air through the vents all summer untill I had it figured out! Still drive a Lada, now a 2110 though.
where do you live? :)
Sweden!
***** oh, it's so unusually that you drive Lada :) I'm from Russia
Honestly if you were a blue-collar, working class Italian man in the 1960s? A car capable of reliably carrying four people and a load of groceries and could get 60 horsepower from a 1.2 liter engine was quite the treasure.
Four people? They packed in double that number.
Believe me, they would pack four in a 500, which is half the size.
Нашу семью при развале СССР выкормила машина, пришлось опустится до огорода, благо была земля в 130 километрах от Москвы.
If you wanted something more exciting, there was the 124 Sport Coupè. Same chassis, engines from 1.4 to 1.8 litres, and a sportier look. My father had one identical to this.
www.vitadistile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/DSC_0971.jpg
@@pitmezzari2873 This is the original 1957 TV ads for the 500. As you can see, there are no other than children in the rear seats. It was a 2+2 "second car" th-cam.com/video/98CuKijsT8o/w-d-xo.html
The 124 Berlina was a small family car with 4 comfortable seats.
Beautiful, essential and practical car. This is a very specific category that not many have known and are able to do.
Bought the 124 second hand in 1975 in Germany and we did a holiday trip to Portugal and Spain. Ran like the clappers, just changed the front brake pads in France. The car just rusted faster than it ran, but I could not kill the engine no matter how hard I tried that on the 'Autobahn'.
James...those are vent windows...use them! Really not that complicated
The small 'fly' window beside May could be swung almost 180 degrees to direct cool air into the car. The trick was to open a window on the other side at the rear which created excellent air flow. I learned this trick on my 'proper' VW Beetle many years ago. The reason these windows have disappeared is because old people live in abject terror of draughts......
The fly windows (known as "wing windows" in the USA) also provided an incredibly easy route for thieves to gain access to the car. On most cars, one could just press the forward corner of the window inward and break the latch by brute force.
Very true about thieving, but would you want to steal a battered old VW Beetle? On mine the door locks didn't work, and could have been started with any car key in the barrel. Nobody wanted to steal it, which is why I used to be able to park it anywhere......
People in some places here in the States would steal anything. Something they could joyride around in and dump later, or use in something like an armed robbery. Stealing ten year old junkboxes was pretty common, actually, as they were commonly cut up for parts. When aftermarket radios became a thing in the '80s, thieves often broke in to steal those, as they were more interested in the radio than in the car. (People sometimes took to putting "NO RADIO" signs in the window.)
This car was manufactured all over the world under license (from 1966 and up to like 2012!) and is one of the highest selling models in history. It was one of the masterpieces of FIAT. Show more respect.
When i was kid, my father had a 124 Special T from i think 1974, beautiful car, someday i go to find one for myself
this was worth 50 average monthly salaries in the USSR, mind you
Love that design.
My dad had 2 of these Fiat 124s both bought in Switzerland... well, the first one was 1.2cc like this one in the vid and it rot away after only 2 years... but the second (called 1.4 Special) lasted over 17 years and it wasn't all that rusty even towards the end when it was driven to the scrap yard on its own 4 wheels :)
I had a Fiat 124 and stupidly traded it in on a Fiat 128. It was a superb car for the time with excellent handling. I never had any rust problems living in Melbourne, Australia. And very tough. It had the smaller motor but that was fine.
How the envy shines though!!! In the 60 only luxury cars had air conditioning, all cars rusted and fiat was the first to have 4 on the floor while the others had columns shift,fiat also had 4 valves per cylinder,aluminum head with double cam.
+Dom Degood Lotus Cortina and normal Cortina Mk1, 4 on the floor, the Fiat Dohc from the 60s was a double cam but had 2 valves per cylinder ....
wyrazowfkp
Alfa Romeo and Fiat were the first cars to have 4 valves per cylinder.
Sorry but that was Peugeot. You were writing about the 60s, and production cars then did not have that then and the Lampredi DOHC was 2 valves per cylinder. Fiat was not the only one, not even first in some categories.
Dom Degood: The first mass production saloon with 4 valves per cylinder was the almighty Triumph Dolomite Sprint.
No hate, I´m a big fan of oldschool Fiats though.
wyrazowfkp
+ the 125 Special had 5 on the floor in 60's....
Лада Нива до сих пор в 2020 году с таким дизайном выпускается)
Как гелик
Классика, проверенная временем. :)
Совершенство не изменяется, оно модифицируетя!
Beauty in simplicity. The perfectly designed and perfectly proportioned automobile. I miss these types of cars.
I had a Fiat 124 for 15 years. It lasted well and served à family of 4 very well.
i have lada from 1977 , same car, great gearbox, great comfor..alot of free spase around you, not like in new cars whit claustrofobic feel,seats are big and soft like on cloud, i miss the old car, they are soo beter ,
Lada Kopeika, VAZ-2101.
Gordon Freeman Or Zhiguli for short
Esуyer 私の lot of lada are based on fiat or fiat engines
Рукипроч от скреп
Fiat124 is the first car of many turkish families. I know alot of guys who learned to drive in one of them. It was produced also in turkey under fiat licence between in 70's.
this car is called murat in turkey which is my name. i love it! always my fav in historic rallies.
Thought this was Soviet Kopeika
думал это была твоя мама
Fiat 124 during the 70ties was built in URSS to and had a great succes!
*USSR not URSS.... learn some history n00b
*en(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/URSS*
google the history, n00b ))))
Hello from Russia! ^-^
Yanuchi Uchina
In Italian it is Unione delle Repubbliche Socialiste Sovietiche. That's why Ettore wrote it that way.
Actually, it should be CCCP (= SSSR).... learn some history double noob! (and ricer!)
in italian language is correct write URSS and not USSR
Internet....what a stupid thing: you correct me for itl. URSS instead eng. USSR and say to me "learn history"......hahahaha I learned History in High School an University, you do not know nothing about me and my life! Before writing, please connect your brain !!!!
If you move the triangular window to and angled position you get great cooling airflow
I drove one in 1990. The brakes were excellent, like from another planet, in comparison to the VW beetle I used to drive back then which could not stop at all!!!
Fastest tractor ever at 0:41
???
Mc19 Baavai I'm confused as well.
well of course.. its an Italian tractor
@@sparrowlt maybe a Lamborghini 🤔
The Italian cars dissolving under the rain is related to a time when cars were strictly related to the place and climate they were born into, the export being just a "plus". As a result pre-production tests were not as severe as they are today, therefore when an italian car had to deal with northern Europe's rainy and moist weather they had issues. And that explains how the everlasting cliché about italian cars was earned, no matter how much things have changed in the meanwhile there will ALWAYS be a smartass claiming it will fall apart in a week
121bham no it's not normal, in fact it doesn't happen. Have you had any notice that italian cars start dissolving after 2 years? Of course not, still you prefer sticking to a 40/50 years ago cliché rather than changing your mind. This is what 90% of people does, 99% of which never ever owned one. On the other hand, 99% of people who owns/owned one, reports zero issues. Call it whatever you want.
121bham you know you have actually no idea and on top of that you're lying and you know it. You do know it. This is what i like the most.
121bham you have no idea simply because 1) you admittedly never owned one yet you keep claiming you're objectively right and 2) you've called them slow and ugly which is objectively wrong.
121bham that's weird cause they've won more "Car of the year" prizes than any other brand in the car industry, you can check by yourself. I'm not evem sure whether you're talking about Fiat or Italian cars in general. Anyways it's not a secret italian brands are among the most valued, if not a proper reference in the supercar segment. But you're free not to like them.
121bham why biased? Am i not free to simply say "i owned italian cars and they suck and I will never buy one again"? What you say doesn't make any sense.
I love this car. I just love the way it looks. I would like to drive or even own one some day.
I got my first car when i was 9 or 10, it was red -78 Fiat 128a 1,1 litre engine. It was my birthday gift and i was so happy :D
here in estonia these cars are still around suprisingly commen.
yes but they are "Moskwitch" or "Lada"
+Thomas Telling They are Lada´s.
BlacK DusK they did not they made it better.
the VITURA
LOOOL! try to convince 6 billion ppl with that :)
BlacK DusK I’m not convincing shit I just said a MY opinion and nothing more i think the Russians made one of the best cars and that’s it.
this test is simply ridiculous: this was a fantastic car at that time, best of its class for styling, engine, handling and so on. judjing it with modern standard like lacking of air conditioning is simply nonsense. and if you live in a place where is always snowing is not our fault: we live in sunny places and our 124 are still here
Lanciarules And James doesn't know how to use the quartet window! It isn't turned to the angle that gets the air circulating into the car :)
Recently picked one up for a bargain, reliable and caked in underseal so no rust! Love to say how much better it is than a period escort with my coil springs and disc brakes 😉
I had a 124 and later an Escort. I loved the 124 and whilst the Escort did everything ok it was stodgy compared to the 124. The steering of the Escort was heavier than that of the 124.
I like the potential of that four link axle when most other cars were still using buggy springs. You could get the Russian version by Lada, which was built until 2012 there, and I think until 2015 in Egypt. They beefed up the shell a lot to survive Russian roads. Apparently they don't dissolve nearly as rapidly.
Love a FIAT 124
tofas murat 124
любдю жйгули 2101 Did I get that right? I'm not Russian?
HACI MURAT 124 DERİZ BIZ ONA TURKİYEDE
ugurblack 35 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
😂🤣😂🤣
Serçe
All he said plus - the running gear could be swapped with the sport spider and coupe. I put the rear end (for better ratio), steering shock, twin cam engine, 5 speed trans. Really made it into a sleeper. Station wagon that ran like a sports car. I miss my '73 fiat sometimes.
I remember when most cars were like this one. I still have memories of burning my thighs on the vinyl seats of a 1967 Plymouth Barracuda. The 'Cuda is said to have had the largest rear window ever fitted on a passenger car. Just the thing to make a rear seat passenger sizzle like a bug under a magnifying glass.
Yeah. It was gorgeous, but a little bit unpractical.
roll the bloody windows down,
i own one of this in turkey :D
BynaTillOss it would be a tofas murat, which is shittier.
why do you haft to be so disrespectful?
i spend so much time and money on my car and trust me fam it get more attention that this car.
i won 4 car events with it :), and i fully rework the motor and the suspension so trust me on this this shit aint got shit on my haci murat ^_^
Your country is named after the most delicious bird on the planet. I salute you.
@@GoldenGrenadier actually the bird named after country. The eu guys called it turkey chicken.
And Turkish guys named the bird "hindi" because they get it from india. In Turkish hint means "indian". Its a indian chicken...
You're welcome my idiot friend...
Abdulkadir Özgencıgor The Portuguese name that bird “peru”.
Beautiful car from Fiat. I live in Italy, where it was born, but it's very rare to find......
In Russia, this car is still often found on the road.
Protip: in the summertime, use your smoker windows to direct a blast of cool air right at you.
Who's here because of Lada? :D
Italian cars "dissolve like a soluble aspirin as soon as it rains"? Really? Try any other car of that period ... the rust problem was common at the time because of bad metal sheets that was used.
But nevertheless, you can find tons of pre-1980 FIAT in Italy. Not this model, indeed, but because it is not very sought after, not because it rusts easily.
Uk climate makes cars to be more prone to rust
TheKenjoje I always liked the Fiat 124 and 131 design, but I'll probably just buy the Lada versions. If you think Fiats rust fast in the UK, then you should try living in upstate NY. I've seen cars from 2005 that already have rusty fenders. I can't even begin to think how fast a classic Fiat would rust in my town. I'd give a 124 a week before it desintigrates.
A FIAT resist as any other car of the time, perhaps better. The Ford are much more prone to rust for example.
No you can't find tons of pre 1980 anything in Italy, unless you have a fortune of money. Italy is the most expensive place on Earth to buy a car, even if it is a pre 1980 rusted hunk of rubbish.
used cars are cheap in italy. potential classics - maybe not, but regular cars are.
someone mentioned lada - lada is worse to drive
I had a 124S in the seventies. Absolutely great car.
Why didn’t you spin the quarter lights James? That would have blasted you with fresher air.
The 124 is a delight. Eastern-bloc.look-alikes never quite matched its charm.
The many comments about the quarter-lights are spot-on.
Like resting a 2cv window on the door mirror, you either know these things or you don't.
The 1.2 was a very Italian car....Like France, Italy punished larger swept volumes, but the results were keen, buzzy, enthusiastic motors that were prepared to work for a living.
This funny, boxy thing spawned the coupé, the spider, the 125 and much else besides. It was as much a feature of 60s and 70s Italy as the 500. Lovely!
I usually have much respect for James, but expecting air conditioning in a 1966 ordinary car? That is a stupid point to make. Roll down the windows and open the quarter vents and you will be fine.
He didn't expect it to have it, he just wishes it did cause he obviously was melting in there
As a filmmaker I think rolling down the windows would have ruined sound so they didn't.
@@xmlthegreat Exactly
I cannot believe he is so complimentary about this car. Change the badge from Fiat to Lada and the snobbery would come through.
Watch the full episode ;-)
in the full episode he compares it to the identical lada. Whitch lets be honest was worse in every way.
Cause the Lada was completely shit.
Errrrm.... they are one and the same.
Darwinion The quallity of the Lada was really low.
I feel like i'm one of the few people in the world who love those boxy, 90 degree angle body shape, 70s fiats, datsun 510s, etc . Most like the Fiat 500 rounded shape(didn't they come out with a retro version about 7 years ago? ), something like but much different than a vw bug . I bought i used Datsun 1973 Datsun 510 4 door in 1981 real cheap . yeah the floor was rusting out but so roomy inside . Inspection ran out , didn't think of having the floor patched up . sold it to this kid . He drove it all the way from Cleveland ohio, to miami florida , no problems . mechanically and motor were superb .
My design sensibilities were at least a decade ahead of time even at 6, I remember drawing cars that look a lot like a Mazda MX-5 (and I'm not even a decade younger o.O).
В России до сих пор на ней ездят,копейка в простонароде
Kopeyka
:D
Took lessons and sat my driving test in one. It conked out halfway through the test and refused to start. Examiner hoofed it back to the test centre. I left it with the keys in it, jumped on a bus and went home. 1976.
Mu uncle had one of these in the early 1980s. It was a nice looking car
And then the Soviets took it, and turned it into a tank.
хороший танк кстати был -ремонтировать легко , последние в 12 году были , теперь нет.
Ladas didn't have disk brakes on the rear axle.
@@82panther Дисковый тормоз сзади ставится на моторы больше 106 лошадиных сил .диск сзади портится быстро от грязи переднего колеса - барабан практичней.
@@user-vv4ds1sx9s Sorry my friend, i do not understand russian
@@82panther A disc brake at the back is put on motors with more than 106 horsepower. The disc at the back deteriorates quickly from dirt on the front wheel - the drum is more practical.
Fiat 124 в Топ Гир: О, ну это для своего времени хорошая машина, комфортная, своеобразная, очень даже ничего
Ваз в топ гир: Что это за гадость! Как можно было создать подобное! Коммунисты, когда создавали эту машину были пьяны и хотели умереть. Я лучше буду ездить на велосипеде, чем на таком!
Справедливо. Как всегда, беспристрастный и нейтральный ВВС всех уделал
Потому-что Фиат - это ретро-классика, а ВАЗ - жалкая подделка, которая не менялась более сорока лет.
@@user-kp5iq4qd8s В чём заключается её "жалкость"? Напомните, сколько лет ЛР Дефендеру? А Фиату 500? А классический жук, который выпускался с 38-го по 2009? И никто не говорит, что всё это - хрень.
Также:если бы ваз выпускался лет 15 - он стал бы от этого "ретро классикой"?
@@user-ub8dc3rb4e Жук с ЛР тоже были нагло слизаны? Не неси чушь: это, как и Фиат, оригинальные авто, над которым работали целые студии, а не Вася с завода в Тольятти, пришедший на всё готовенькое, и за 40 лет изменивший в авто ровным счетом нихуя. В совдепе хоть танки могли строить, в РФ и те, блять, на парадах до гаражей доехать не могут...
@@user-kp5iq4qd8s Вы отказываетесь от своих предыдущих аргументов, что ВАЗ-2101 был жалок и выпускался слишком долго? Хорошо, тогда перейдём к последнему: Китайские лицензионные клоны АК выпускались дольше, чем оригинальная модель - аж до нулевых, когда Россия перевооружилась уже несколько раз, и АК-47 в частях уже не оставалось вообще. Это - нормальная практика, закупать и производить по лицензии. Что вас не устраивает - не пойму. Да, жигуль был морально устаревшим ещё в девяностых, но назначение дешёвой и массовой машины он выполнял. Возьмём тот же Жук, в котором комфорта в разы меньше - немецкий запорожец, только в довесок - выпускавшийся 80+лет. И что даёт нам этот оригинальный дизайн? К тому же, после копейки пошли другие модели, уже чисто свои...
Круто обсуждать некомпетентность того, что давно перестали выпускать. Современные лады стоят на уровне корейцев и являются одними из лучших в цене-комфорт-качество в своей категории - Дэу и многие китайцы за те же деньги предлагают только средство передвижения на 2-5 лет. В опровержение принимаю только аргументы, свои матюги и ругань оставьте при себе.
Танки классно приплели. Они и наша промышленность тут как-раз к месту. Однако, и тут не угадали( Т-14, как и любой новый образец, требует доработки в реальных условиях. А все Т-90 работают безупречно, закупаються многими странами с любым климатом и рельефом, и технологичнее Абрамаса хотя бы тем, что имеют автоматическую перезарядку. И да, они точно не производились в СССР
@@user-ub8dc3rb4e Факт! Полностью согласен!
Have the same colour, but Lada 2101. Produced in 1972 and it has Fiat logos on its gearbox
My father bought one brand new but after his brother bought a higher-spec 124 Special. Both in the then-fashionable mustard green colour.
мне 35 понимаю что таз гавно но какая настольгия (это первая машина была у меня)
копейка
Gardner ! Хаха Руская копейка
Lada rules! 💪
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That place is Cambiano, a small village near Turin!!
The Fiat 124 had an interesting feature. All of the wiring in the car was done with one color wire; White with a black stripe.
Волна увольнений при Тэтчер это конечно демократия и свобода. Выпуск устаревшего автомобиля долгое время из-за развала страны (в следствие либеральных реформ) - это вина тоталитаризма и тирании. Да и вообще следует освежить память, сколько советский союз экспортировал легковых автомобилей в страны запада. "На западе пропаганды нет" ©
Выпуск этого автомобиля был прекращён как раз после развала. А при прошлом режиме его клепали десятки лет. И сколько кстати Советский Союз экспортировал автомобилей? Цифру хотелось бы узнать, и год достижение этого показателя. Или сколько их было произведено?
Три года назад я потратил 6 месяцев на поиски и купил себе 2103! И хотел бы купить её сегодня новенькую с завода! КРАСНУЮ! :))
The russians almost copy- pasted this thing, unfortunately they decided to "improve" it by removing the 4 disc brakes and put drums on the back wheels. Russians are tough, they don't need so much braking power :D
If you had one of these you would love to have drums on the rear. There is a reason why most of the standard cars have drums or discs with drums in the rear. In 124 handbrake was weak and prone to "sticking" (hot disc transfered its heat to cyllinder, which often got stuck in place after cooling on parking. Happend to me 2 times in one year, then i started to just leaving it in gear instead). And, after all, back then rear axle wasnt needed as much for braking :)
Also, disc brakes were not properly cover and in result lots of dirt was getting on it. It was a huge disadvantage for bad Soviet road infrastructure.
The Lada was adapted to fit the much rougher Russian climate. It also needed different servicing and manufacturing costs. The Soviet market and the European one were very different, there was no way to sell the exact same car in both countries.
What's wrong with with it having a crank start option? It saved my dad on quite a few occasions when the weather would go to extreme freezing conditions and killed the charge in the battery - mind you the CCA back then was quite a bit lower than in modern day batteries. Never had him complain about the brakes either.
When I was a child I used to see lots of these cars, most were Ladas, but sometimes it was a Fiat 124 or a 125, I couldn't tell the difference.
My dad drove one in the 1960's from London to Pakistan!