Is Angry Birds a rip-off of Crush the Castle? - Flash Series History | Flashlight

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  • A reloaded look at the history and creation of a wee little series: Angry Birds, and the hit Flash game series, Crush the Castle. Maybe you've heard of it? Where does the original Angry Birds fall in terms of inspiration vs rip-off?
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    Crush the Castle from Armor Games was a smash hit online game! The first of many games in this series has managed to earn 27 Million plays on the Armor site alone!
    But, shortly after, Angry Birds came along. A game which was bought and installed 500 MILLION times!! It's considered one of the most successful, best selling games of all time.
    The problem is, it pretty well replicated Crush the Castle beat-for-beat. So in this episode of Flashlight, I want to take a closer look at the development history of Crush the Castle and Angry Birds, and help shed some light on how these games came to be.
    The story takes a few unexpected turns, and I think this video paints a fascinating picture of of inspiration, and allows us to compare who really rip-off ed who, if anyone?
    00:00 Intro
    00:52 vs Angry Birds
    08:04 Castle Clout
    09:44 Crush the Castle
    10:49 Crush the Castle 2
    13:13 Player Packs & More
    16:30 Crush the Castle Adventures
    19:50 Crush the Castle: Siege Master
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  • @2leftthumbs
    @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This video was first made 2 years ago. I ended up not updating much. I mostly changed a bit of phrasing that had to do with timelines (ie. Angry Birds Movie 2 wasn't out yet).
    I also stitched in comments from Joey Betz that I found in an AMA. I think those comments straight from the dev added a lot!
    I know I said Fancy Pants was going to be the next episode, but I had to push that one pack. For... Reasons. But it's going to be worth it!

    • @lgpa565
      @lgpa565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its a great video

    • @Zander2212
      @Zander2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please do a video on Epic Battle Fantasy. That was one of my favorites growing up.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Zander2212 I would love to at some point! I need to come up with a strategy though. Playing 100s of hours of that series for a single video would be a LOT of work!

    • @Zander2212
      @Zander2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2leftthumbs Understandable. My best suggestion would be to ask anyone who has done a Let's Play if you could borrow some footage (though I'd suggest making your own footage for some of it). Or, since they're so big, you could do a series like Henry Stickman.
      I don't know if either of those are feasible though, just spitballing.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Amphibia Bird The timing of that is pretty crazy!

  • @petrmatko6628
    @petrmatko6628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Man I completely forgot about that old game Crush the castle. I only remember playing a hacked version with my brother and throwing black holes everywhere lol.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I've never seen that. Sounds kinda great!

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I'll admit I had no idea that Crush the Castle itself was inspired by older games. You know more about Flash than I do.

    • @DecisionsRQuestionable
      @DecisionsRQuestionable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

    • @keith_24
      @keith_24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hmm

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I appreciate the vote of confidence! I take pride in my flash history knowledge :)
      But if it were to come down to a battle of Flash gaming skill? I think you'd have me beat every time xD

    • @Ceptle
      @Ceptle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey its that guy

    • @johnremizeztomilloso158
      @johnremizeztomilloso158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ceptle Your not that guy Beltran trust me your not that guy! 😐

  • @runktheruler
    @runktheruler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Crush the castle's fire bombs were like crack cocaine to my baby 7 year old brain

  • @Bandan-Artson
    @Bandan-Artson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Here's my idea for the next Flashlight video: Eddsworld.
    I think it will be cool to know about the history of this internet masterpiece.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely I'd love to sometime! It'll be tricky. I'd want to be very delicate about that one, and make sure it's all framed and presented appropriately

  • @Punykirby
    @Punykirby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember Crush the castle, that brings back memories

  • @lunarscales_
    @lunarscales_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Honestly my 3rd fav flashlight episode (right behind pico and tankmen). Good job, as always Graeme. You never cease to impress me.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Max! Glad to hear the quality feels maintained :)

    • @lunarscales_
      @lunarscales_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2leftthumbs no problem ;)

  • @elitebarbarian1903
    @elitebarbarian1903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Toothpaste + Orange Juice= *DEATH*

  • @Cishsun
    @Cishsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you tried the rusty lake series? Seems like the perfect game to analyze, the games are also pretty cheap when they're on sale on steam. 10 of the games are cube escape games, and can be played on a flash emulator instead(although they are slightly different to the steam release, but I don't think any changes important to the story were made).
    Also, always liked armor games as well, when I was younger it was the site I always went to for flash games. I remember playing so much bubble tanks.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I definitely want to go deep on the Rusty Lake series sometime! I know it will be a serious commitment to stitch it all together, so I am saving it for when I have more time

  • @TheNirski
    @TheNirski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should do a flash light video about epic battle fantasy

    • @colorpow2668
      @colorpow2668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man i used to play those games all the time

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to! I just need an opportunity to play all the games through first, which I know will take a very long time.

  • @baimhakani
    @baimhakani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you consider covering about Flipline Studios' Papa Louie games, please?

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to at some point!

  • @wantedbird55srandomchannel28
    @wantedbird55srandomchannel28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do find throwing birds at walls more enjoying than stones, but I will respect the foundation of my favorite game.

  • @teamfourstarsvegeta7818
    @teamfourstarsvegeta7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God crush the castle was my absolute game as a kid

  • @weebinit8011
    @weebinit8011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Angry birds give me a lot of nostalgia sad that's rovio destroyed it

    • @aka2384
      @aka2384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me to, it was my faworite game when i was a kid. I still have a lots of angry birds plushies in my home.

    • @weebinit8011
      @weebinit8011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aka2384apes/małpy together strong
      -wow that's pog

    • @aka2384
      @aka2384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weebinit8011 xd nawet zabawne

    • @weebinit8011
      @weebinit8011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aka2384 oke

    • @RNB_Jerry
      @RNB_Jerry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have to give Rovio another chance because the new angry birds game Angry birds reloaded looks promising

  • @domornater6032
    @domornater6032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hol up is that the “for the king” menu theme playing in the background 8:26

  • @VampPhoenix99
    @VampPhoenix99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember HATING Angry Birds when it came out because I loved Crush the Castle and I thought it was a ripoff lol.

    • @ajaykasar6638
      @ajaykasar6638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The hypocrisy is crazy, even crush the castle is a ripoff of castle clout.

  • @Captions-Eric
    @Captions-Eric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually like
    the look of siege master

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I think they did a great job with it!

  • @wolfwolf8296
    @wolfwolf8296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t know man,that chicken looks like it could get all of there friends and kill you if you pick them up

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think something the internet needs to realize that all art is stolen, nothing is truly original. Getting inspiration can be big or small, but Angry Birds in the End was an original idea. Yes, a big part of it is inspired by (or stolen from depending on how it's looked at), but it still added onto that idea and turned it into something new.

  • @patrikwintergerst6939
    @patrikwintergerst6939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the guy is using operant terms, then "positive punishment" is wrong. Positive punishment would be some stimulus appearing to punish the player for failing. The bloody corpses are positive reinforcement, they just don't work as that for everyone

  • @jackschumann8440
    @jackschumann8440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you be interested in making videos on Flash websites

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's certainly something I plan to do someday! There are plenty of websites that have made significant contributions to the culture and industry of Flash games.

  • @nahno7698
    @nahno7698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting this one to get revised

  • @sonnytrinh3370
    @sonnytrinh3370 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do the Warlords series!

  • @kaigorodaki
    @kaigorodaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    big thanks for this video, this helped me for my presentation on angry birds 👍

  • @tudorcalita6934
    @tudorcalita6934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it

  • @swivileunitedbackup8227
    @swivileunitedbackup8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This sounds like an old flashlight episode

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flash games Dark Cut (I think that was the name) were also very obviously copied to make Trauma Center

  • @awesomeplushproductions
    @awesomeplushproductions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played angry birds since I was little, and I just discovered crush the castle recently. I personally think they are both great in their own way

  • @JmMateo933
    @JmMateo933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They took the idea and made it slightly different for new platform

  • @kristincook7808
    @kristincook7808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He should do a flashlight on madness combat

  • @chocolatecaake
    @chocolatecaake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He literally forgot the name of his on game

  • @ClickyTheCat
    @ClickyTheCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Primary flashlight when?

  • @keithmoseley4772
    @keithmoseley4772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe 21st?

  • @otakuscientist5171
    @otakuscientist5171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do your vids not get recomended to me?!?!?

  • @minionman3103
    @minionman3103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent question

  • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
    @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் หลายเดือนก่อน

    Angry Birds improved upon Crush the Castle on so many levels.. First off, the artstyle&aesthetics are much more colourful&charming whereas the flash game's artstyle is very drab and secondly, it fixed an issue with CTC, switching the boulder sling with a normal slingshot made the aiming much more precise.
    I look at thiis in the same way as Final Fight Vs Streets Of Rage, was SoR a blatant rip off of FF? Yeah but its sequel Sor2 ended up being one of the best beat'em'ups ever made and SoR2 has its own identity separate from FF. Lot of games start off as rip offs such as saints row or medal of honour but eventually they create their own identity down the road.

  • @thatoneguy8293
    @thatoneguy8293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crush the castle is like the rip off name castle crashers but it isn’t anything like castle crashers

  • @georgieippolito9924
    @georgieippolito9924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    crush the castle 2 should get released on mobile and it'll destroy angry birds. build your own castle however you like with unlimited parts, put the people inside and destroy other people's castles.

    • @EpikBirb
      @EpikBirb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The original bird games aren't even up anymore so

  • @VampPhoenix99
    @VampPhoenix99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THAT'S NOT WHAT POSITIVE PUNISHMENT MEANS

    • @BinaryHedgehog1
      @BinaryHedgehog1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I took Pysch 101 and this totally went over me. Yeah, operant conditioning has got some counter-intuitive terminology.

  • @hungariancountryball2928
    @hungariancountryball2928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @presidentnoob2520
    @presidentnoob2520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think angey birds it just inspired by crush the castle or mabye is a coincidence

  • @groovingtachanko3677
    @groovingtachanko3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayo, I dont really like angry birds, but if you want to say that they ripped of crush the castle its the same thing to say that they copied bowman aswell.
    nice video btw

  • @RigginTheRod010
    @RigginTheRod010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @randomduder995
    @randomduder995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woh

  • @Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper
    @Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    40th ike

  • @KC_Garcia
    @KC_Garcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    (Visible confusion)

  • @Pussycat8
    @Pussycat8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT!

  • @titanicroblox03
    @titanicroblox03 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is not a rip off it’s inspired

  • @gavinwilson5895
    @gavinwilson5895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    all of them are yeet tho

  • @mysteriousnewdude6491
    @mysteriousnewdude6491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd

  • @adnanalmusaher
    @adnanalmusaher ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi everyone anyone played flash games of angry birds?

  • @duckstabed7381
    @duckstabed7381 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes it is

  • @SuperMarioFan-ys6eb
    @SuperMarioFan-ys6eb ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saying Angry Birds is a ripoff of Crush the Castle is like saying Sonic is a ripoff of Mario.

    • @RyanRedbird
      @RyanRedbird 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THANK YOU.

  • @cheeseballs7433
    @cheeseballs7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh its better than Crush the castle my opinion

  • @kas2840
    @kas2840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avatar fortress fight

  • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
    @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, no angry birds is not a ripoff to crush the castle

    • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
      @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s befor crush the castle

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      First Crush the Castle: May 2009
      First Angry Birds: December 2009

    • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
      @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I think it’s befor crunch the castle, but That’s okay about your comment

    • @I_Am_Wasabi_Man
      @I_Am_Wasabi_Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 i made a horrible mistake looking at your videos. "What tis the boy saw? His Girlfriend and her skirt ( 16+ )" 💀

  • @st.haborym
    @st.haborym ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inspiration is when you make a game LIKE the original. This is literally just a reskin.

  • @kukurakukis
    @kukurakukis ปีที่แล้ว

    Part 2 worst rip offs angry bird please. 😀

  • @cole8445
    @cole8445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crush the casl is not the same

  • @grantschubach5163
    @grantschubach5163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game looks ugly compared to Angry Birds

  • @weaponxgamer3786
    @weaponxgamer3786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crush the castle was better

  • @greystash1750
    @greystash1750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes