They REMOVED This Critical Chapter From "The Sorcerer's Stone"

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  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The way they had Hermione just solving everything made Ron and sometimes even Harry seem pointless to the story.
    As to the second quidditch match, it's just behind the potions puzzle on the list of things I wish they'd left in the first movie.

  • @dilsedesi1704
    @dilsedesi1704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The way rowling put all those hints in the first book itself actually shows how much she she had already planned for the story. Harry thinking Snape reading minds (Legilimency) and Neville's subtle gowth and courage. Aside from the golden trio, Neville is the only student (from their year) we actually get good conversations.

    • @ChibaMitsurugi19792
      @ChibaMitsurugi19792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Legilimency, not occlumency. Occlumency is the ability that protects against legilimency.

    • @dilsedesi1704
      @dilsedesi1704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChibaMitsurugi19792 Thanks

    • @ChibaMitsurugi19792
      @ChibaMitsurugi19792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dilsedesi1704 you're welcome

    • @08gameplaya
      @08gameplaya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally Neville was my favorite gryffindor followed by Ronald Weasley both underrated.

  • @northernbloke6787
    @northernbloke6787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    They do that constantly. Harry or Ron make a breakthrough or come up with the solution... but they give it to Hermione. It's a real problem with how Hermione is represented, she's made the perfect and unflappable.

    • @amiejohnston2842
      @amiejohnston2842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Even in “The Cursed Child” she’s the Minister of Magic. I was like, “ Of course she is.” 🙄 I’m all for women to be recognized and be successful but come on. Once in a while I wanted Hermione to actually be wrong about something. Poor Ron was made to look like a buffoon in the films but in the books he was a very brave person. Oh yeah he could be a typical brooding teenage boy who gets pissy with his friends at times but most of the time he was pretty cool and extremely loyal. I know everyone says, “ But he ABANDONED Harry and Hermione in the search for horcruxes!! He’s a coward!” I think what people don’t understand is that Ron was extremely terrified for his family and what happening in their world. Plus being on the run with his two friends was equally terrifying and survival was eminent, so when he stormed out of the tent and into the night, it was out of anger, frustration, fear (not in a bad way) and he literally just needed to cool off. His fierce love for his two friends drove him to finally come back and I’ll always remember his reaction of pure fear helplessness when he heard Hermione’s screams while she was being tortured by Bellatrix.

    • @virginiaevans853
      @virginiaevans853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s part of the female empowerment. My dad didn’t care for television or movies. Men and boys were always depicted as goofy and stupid. Unless it was a WWII movie. He loved those. 😄

    • @mehmettolgakaratas5219
      @mehmettolgakaratas5219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great video

    • @brightonm218
      @brightonm218 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@amiejohnston2842Ron was still a numbskull even in the book as I remember.

    • @brightonm218
      @brightonm218 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@virginiaevans853Or Hermione was the smart one in the group in the book so they kept to that and gave her the credit because it fits her character.....not everything is about female empowerment. Even if it were, why do you care so much? Men and boys ARE goofy at that age and silly. They weren't depicted as stupid in the book, at least not harry.

  • @ohemgee38
    @ohemgee38 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I can understand cutting the second match due to movie length, but they should’ve kept harry finding Flamel and somehow included Ron and Neville’s scuffle with Malfoy and his friends

  • @MrRjhyt
    @MrRjhyt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember the *'Ah hah!"* moment, when Harry wondered/worried that Snape could read his mind. It's just such a delight to see such moments warmed even in the first book!
    Completely missed it the first time reading it, and how much more sense it made once the later books were published, and legilimens was introduced.

  • @drkushajagadeesh6347
    @drkushajagadeesh6347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yeah, in the movies Hermione thinks up or plans more than HALF the stuff that RON actually thinks of or plans in the books! They literally nerfed bro in the movies just to boost Hermione's image on screen. Another one who got nerfed badly in the movies was Ginny Weasley! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @sannasaare7100
      @sannasaare7100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Screenwriter Steven
      Kloves always, always, always said that Hermione was his favorite character. Pretty sure that Rowling didn’t have final script approval.

    • @PaleoMeat
      @PaleoMeat 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I especially agree about Ginny. She quickly became my favorite secondary character in the books. She's mostly missing from the movies.

  • @sannasaare7100
    @sannasaare7100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While the books are nearly always more satisfying than the resulting movies, I believe “Sorcerer’s Stone” and “Chamber of Secrets” are two of the closest representations I’ve ever seen.
    However, this is what makes me crazy: deleted scenes.
    Example: the scene of Harry’s first potions class, where he sasses Snape: “clearly, Hermione knows. Seems a pity not to ask her.”

  • @jjp3182
    @jjp3182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Another great video! but in the extended version of the movie there is a scene where Neville has the leg locking curse on him and Harry looks at the Dumbledore card again and sees Nicholas Flamel's name again, then they go to the library and Hermoine reads from the book

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I need this version! It used to be on Peacock and then they took it off.

    • @jjp3182
      @jjp3182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@factorfantasyweekly I own the first two movies with the extended versions on dvd, but as far as I know they didn't release the rest of them with their extended versions on dvd, I know they used to air the extended versions of the others on tv

    • @anneclough7064
      @anneclough7064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jjp3182
      Yes I own them too and they are the only versions I watch.
      I cannot stand the shorter versions any more.
      But yes, the extended version does indeed have the scene with Neville and the leg locker curse and Harry reading the card and finding Flamel's name on it.

  • @tanialangford6662
    @tanialangford6662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have loved to see Ron and Neville take on Draco, Gregory and Vincent. They deserved everything they got and more. Draco is an entitled snob and bully. I love that that he was taken down a peg or two. The movies made Draco look better than he was in the books. I like anytime he’s given a hiding. Two of my favourite scenes are when Hermione punches Draco in the nose and when Barty Crouch Jnr disguised as Mad-Eye Moody turns him into a ferret. I think Neville is a very underrated character so showing this fight would have granted him some character development. The movies made Neville look like a whimp whereas he just lacked confidence, self worth and belief in himself. Definitely a true Gryffindor

  • @ChibaMitsurugi19792
    @ChibaMitsurugi19792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's why I never really like movies based on books as much as the books. Events and scenes always seem to get either cut or altered in some way.

  • @swpcj
    @swpcj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Part of this chapter with the chocolate frog card and Malfoy curse on Neville was filmed, but in a deleted scene which took place in the great hall, during preparation for thier exams where Ron was going thought his collecion of cards

  • @rustysm8080
    @rustysm8080 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The running theme of Hermione (movie) stealing so many acts and lines from Ron, Harry it becomes funny in a way...but not funny, haha.
    Great breakdown. 👍

  • @Xelianow
    @Xelianow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be honest, i don't think that "Snape can read minds."-thing should be overinterpreted.
    Snape is a master at Occlumency rather than Legilimency after all, and whenever he tried to invade Harrys mind during his occlumency lessons he had to use a spell and let Harry relive the memories Snape was looking at. Sure, he might be skilled enough to sense whether someone is lying or so, but flat out reading minds without the other noticing it... ?
    Although i am not sure about his abilities in that field of magic (he was at last a decent legilimens after all), i think him beeing able to just read Harrys mind whenever they met would create a clusterf*ck of problems for the plot...

  • @Amiigoze
    @Amiigoze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s amazing how much gets forgotten from when you read the book and then watch the movie adaptation.

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea even I was forgetting some of these things 😂 but hey, they gotta fit it in a couple hours

  • @matthewhenthorn3343
    @matthewhenthorn3343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm sort of in two minds about the Hermione got the credit in the movie thing. Harry doesn't exactly find Flamel, but merely a reference that helps gives them the crucial starting point in terms of research (something that wouldn't be know to kids today who can look it up on there phones). Hermione has the book that gives the information, but it's possible that she was merely reading when she found the reference and the information in one shot.
    A deleted scene sort of shows this whole thing with the chocolate frog card, and Neville under the leg locker curse. I'm not sure of deleting it was a bad idea, because while in the books they help him, in the scene, the moment they find Flamel they are off, and Neville is left to fall over.

  • @sanddagger36
    @sanddagger36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They spent so much time on the chocolate frogs on the train, i was sure the movie would use the call back later. was really disappointed they didn't.
    I'm curious when Cedric became the seeker for Hufflepuff. This short match might have been JK's way of hiding who the seeker was, ending the match before we could see how skilled Cedric really was.

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting thought about Cedric. I never thought about it!

  • @Manoftheday08
    @Manoftheday08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this video, it’s so soothing to watch especially after such a long day and a bad breakup recently. It’s like the escape I get while reading the books but without having to read them it’s really quite nice

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to be a part of your day 🙏🏼♥️

  • @lockpickingparamedic2136
    @lockpickingparamedic2136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Isn‘t Chapter 13 the point where every HP Book hints at the antagonist of the book? How comes they cut such a part that drastically?

  • @tonette6592
    @tonette6592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm sorry that they cut so many things, although this one was far from the most important. I truly can't wait for you to cover the House Elves and SPEW.

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea that’ll be a lot 😂

    • @drkushajagadeesh6347
      @drkushajagadeesh6347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't forget Peeves!! 😬😬

    • @tonette6592
      @tonette6592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drkushajagadeesh6347 IK,R? And The Headless Hunt

  • @selwynevonbeereskow8053
    @selwynevonbeereskow8053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Such a shame that they omitted so much in the movie. Let's hope that the series to come will put more book content into the episodes.

    • @drkushajagadeesh6347
      @drkushajagadeesh6347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know, I have a bad feeling about the series... 👀🙆‍♂️

  • @jkrause365
    @jkrause365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know, I think it's time to go back and read all seven novels front to back one more time.

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish they could have kept the story in the movie as it was in the book. But there just isn't time. Even on one of the thinner books like this first book it would take hours and hours to tell that full story. And truth be told what reads well doesn't always work well in a movie so even if time wasn't the issue some parts of the story may need to be tightened up a bit to make the movie flow.

  • @terryhayward7905
    @terryhayward7905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love all of the Harry Potter films, but I would be more than happy to watch the films if they were twice as long leaving nothing out of the original books.
    If you want the full story, but do not have the time or patience to read it, listen to the Stephen Fry audio reading.

  • @RLJSlick
    @RLJSlick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this! Huge Harry Potter book fan but I've always been lukewarm on the movies! Good stuff!

  • @dilsedesi1704
    @dilsedesi1704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The way they have cut so much of Snape's mean side and his unfairness in the movies is the reason why so many movie fans consider Snape as a hero. This is just the starting but in later books there are so many things that literally made me hate Snape sooo much.

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true

    • @northernbloke6787
      @northernbloke6787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to be one of the book snobs. But a lot of these details is why the movies start getting worse and worse.

    • @dilsedesi1704
      @dilsedesi1704 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@northernbloke6787 Yes. But I kind of like ootp and DH movies. The books are seriously so big u cannot put every detail from it in a 2 hour movie. But hbp is just bad

    • @northernbloke6787
      @northernbloke6787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dilsedesi1704 oh for sure don't get me wrong I understand that. But the lifeless and sometimes conflicting presentation is very of putting. Faithful adaption isn't about getting everything in but getting the spirit in. It's why LOTR films had elves at Helm's Deep and was still beloved. A lot of the David Yates films are lifeless cash grabs without the hours spent to adapt and think through the presentation.

    • @MrRjhyt
      @MrRjhyt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is such a shame that characters have to be simplified to fit a movie narrative, stealing glory from other characters to compliment a shallower film version. It feels like all the book characters were robbed at numeruous points in the movies. Understandable in a way, but still a shame. Personally, I miss the snarky and insecure Hermione who worried about Phlegm, or St. Mungo's encounter with Neville, or all the Gaunt family backstory. The absence of the 'Marauders' identity in the films.... and so on, and so on.

  • @jessicapinto3817
    @jessicapinto3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have read the books and watched the movies several times and I don't mind the changes at all as the heart of the story was not swayed by the changes in the adaptations. they are both good. it's fun to see the changes side by side.

  • @jaredmarkham7300
    @jaredmarkham7300 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been enjoying both this and your Lord of the Rings Movies VS Manuscripts..

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @jaredmarkham7300
      @jaredmarkham7300 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@factorfantasyweekly no problem it all great even just going ankle deep between the two meadeums give you 16 to 20 minute vides.

  • @fruitfulconnoisseur
    @fruitfulconnoisseur หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of Snapes double agent status and makes me wonder what horcrux was used to hide Voldemort under the turban. four house items, the snake, The death Stone of the deathly hallows which was made into a ring, Tom Riddle's journal from his school days, and the unintentional eighth horcrux Harry Potter himself.

  • @Richoneification
    @Richoneification 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saw the movie today and both were different .....Aw one had a scene the other didn't A scene that comes after the owl flies and the library scene....

  • @amiejohnston2842
    @amiejohnston2842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the “Prisoner of Azkaban” I was waiting for the Quidditch Cup Finals: Slytherin vs. Gryffindor and they didn’t even bother to put it in the film. That is one the most exciting parts in the book and I was really annoyed that it was omitted.

  • @jaredschumaker5346
    @jaredschumaker5346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know your not using the extra content, but there is a deleted scene where Harry finds and reads about Flemel And Dumbledor from the collectable card and leaving Nevil stuck in the jimx.

  • @julieeeee778
    @julieeeee778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good. Job. On. Quiz. Julie ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @emzp88
    @emzp88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The transition that you are talking about where Harry is letting Hedwig out for a flight - is one that has always made me angry or upset or annoyed - not sure which word is most appropriate here? But they claim that so many cuts were made because there was "not enough time" yet this scene takes up a huge amount of time. Although it is a poignant scene between Harry and Hedwig, it demonstrates their bond and that holds significance to me there are so many other significant moments that should have made it into the film. An example of this is Hermione missing her moment with the potion riddle. I have just discovered your channel and so far really enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing them. :-)

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed! So many unnecessary moments added when important ones were cut.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @Lucinda_96
    @Lucinda_96 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love listening to these. They made me excited to see the TV show in 2026 though I'm sad the actors will be different.

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think HBO with The Harry Potter Franchise is planning a season by season tv series on Max. This should fill in most if not all the gaps.

  • @JennyShull
    @JennyShull หลายเดือนก่อน

    1)To me it would have been funny if all the Harry Potter movies started and ended with “Read the Books.”
    2)like to try to give credit where credit is due, I like doing research, but I’m also lazy and a procrastinator.
    In a TH-cam video I watched, I don’t remember the tittle of the video or the name under the title of the video, they said something about without the magic element of the Harry Potter Movies and Books would be a detective story.
    Also in another TH-cam video I watched, I don’t remember the tittle of the video or the name under the title of the video, they made a funny observation about Harry Potter movie 1. When the first year Hogwarts students are rowing up the school in boats without paddles. They come upon a cliff that the school is on. It is hard to see if there are any stairs up the castle on the cliff. So they possibly have to free climb up the cliff to get to the school.

  • @toodlescae
    @toodlescae 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What aggravates me on the movies is when they *add* stuff that's not in the books. I understand having to cut stuff because of time but we would get more book accurate plot lines if they just used stuff from the books instead of adding on crap they made up. It's usually just gratuitous action anyway.

  • @yozarian86
    @yozarian86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even with all of this, movie 1 has the least changes. I can watch the first movie and enjoy it. The first book is much shorter than the rest so they didn’t have to cut as much. As the series goes on though, it becomes torture to watch the movies

  • @julieeeee778
    @julieeeee778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I. Love. Your. Video. Harry Potter. Julie

  • @julieeeee778
    @julieeeee778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    756. Points. Julie. 😊🎉❤gryffindor. Hogwarts house 🏡

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A great set up and payoff for Neville. Alas....

  • @julieeeee778
    @julieeeee778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Emma. Watson. Mrs. Mrs. Weasley. Family. Julie

  • @bobwest9267
    @bobwest9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good content. Too many fucking ads tho.

  • @mindakahn9964
    @mindakahn9964 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The books are enormous and full of information that can’t make the script edit. Unless you want to sit in a theatre for three times as long. Let’s go back in time to another blockbuster film of its era, Gone With the Wind. Scarlett O’Hara was married three times. She had three children. One with each husband. Where is Wade Hampton Hamilton? Where is Ella Lorena Kennedy? You’re just not going to get it all. Appreciate the films for what they are, maybe not Goblet of Fire. J. Rowling is making a new series for Netflix. That should be interesting and more extensive than the original films. And then we can converse over which-are better. Every time I watch a potter film I see something new.
    I was watching the Dickensian series on BritBox, most of it was shot on Diagon Alley. Go look at that. The acting is superb.

  • @athenovae
    @athenovae 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey super weird questions:
    - if a guy takes poly juice potion and gets intimate with another guy, but the first guy keeps taking the potion, would he get pregnant and stay pregnant? Would he give birth? Would the kid have the copied person’s genes or the first guy’s genes? Lol
    - also, if someone is force fed unicorn blood, are they cursed? Or only if you intentionally do it?

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hmmmm…
      Polyjuice potion could just be an external magic that changes your outward appearance but doesn’t change your inside. If we go based on movie lore, this would make sense. Later on when Harry leaves the Dursley’s and multiple people take the potion, they all maintain their original voices. Of course this is to make it easier for the movie audience to know which character is which, but that would insinuate that their vocal chords never changed. Therefore, their internal organs never changed. So no pregnancy.
      Yea, I think they would be cursed. 😂 Sadly.

    • @athenovae
      @athenovae 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@factorfantasyweekly they had their original voices in the books? I haven’t heard Jim Dale’s narration of the audiobook in a while.
      regarding unicorn, sometimes I think intent matters, cuz I’ve been listening to a lot of LOTR lore from InDeepGeek and there’s a lot of times where intent matters throughout the ages (eras) of the stories. Haha if ppl do get cursed regardless, it would be such a Joker/ psychopathic thing to do. Imagine if the death eaters did that just cuz. They already assault and kill muggles for fun.

  • @leighrule4566
    @leighrule4566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer the original version everytime.

  • @julieeeee778
    @julieeeee778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gay. Girls 👭 me. Julie. Date. Emma. Weasley

  • @ceofroggooo
    @ceofroggooo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hello

  • @matthewtaylor3308
    @matthewtaylor3308 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Screenplay writers can always get away with being lazy when it comes to adapting notable books into movies because they know that the majority of viewers will already be familiar with the backstory due to having read the book… 🤷‍♂️

  • @Rogerla62
    @Rogerla62 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please don’t repeat things over and over. It makes the video way longer than necessary.

  • @ultimistakeo4369
    @ultimistakeo4369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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